Re: [thg-dev] [thg] 0.8.1 is imminent

2009-07-16 Thread Giampaolo Fadel
2009/7/16 Steve Borho 

> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Giampaolo Fadel
> wrote:
> >> Mercurial 1.3.1 is going to be released later this week (not sure on
> >> an exact date) and, if possible, I would like to release THG 0.8.1
> >> within 24 hours of that.  I think the tip of stable is in pretty good
> >> shape, but It would be great if any of the following could also make
> >> it in (in no particular order):
> >>
> >> * Documentation:  CHM and/or PDF versions of the manuals.
> >
> >
> > The status of my work at http://bitbucket.org/paolof/thg-manual/ is
> this:
> > * I fixed many of open issues concerning build system
> > * The build system use now xml catalog to locate dtd and xsl files so no
> > hard coded paths exist more.
> > * The build system create the static HTML pages.
> > * The build system and structure of project are described in the
> readme.txt
> > * The build system is still a batch file, only for windows.
> > * The content is old (stupid me that I don't write down the ID of wiki
> > project from which I started my work, it may be 95ad2f0e5fbe)
> > * Tonight I hope to align the content with the last changes on the
> > wiki/manual
>
> Is the base input file in XML?  If so that's a bit regrettable, as XML
> is not a very writer friendly format.  We should look into one of the
> more simpler markup languages like reST that can produce input for
> docbook.
>

Yes, the input file is XML! I agree with you it is not so confortable to
edit in plain text,
but exist some editors that help a lot, like xmlmind or packages for emacs.
TortoiseSVN
manual is written directly in docbook (there is in its repository a
hacking.txt with some rules
that we can apply here). 'Mercurial. The definitive guide' has switched from
Latex to docbook.

Now I'll look into reST and I'll test it.


> > I think that after the alignment of the content, it's time to move the
> > project in a subfolder of thg project, so it can better follow the new
> > features of thg and it can be integrated in the thg build process.
>
> Certainly.


Now my repository is aligned with the wiki, and I've updated the download
section.
So if you want you can include them in the next 0.8.1 distribution .
I suggest you to wait the analysis of reST before move the repository in the
thg project.


>
> > I'd like to know if TK is doing some work in contrast with my work and
> what
> > he think.
> >
> > The stylesheet can be improved a lot but we can do it day by day.
> >
> > Up now there is no wiki Creole output so the online manual must be remove
> or
> > we have two manual source documentation.
>
> Yep, I'll do this at the same time.  This wiki will just have the CHM
> and PDF files for download, until we get a web host that can serve
> static HTTP pages.
>

Yes


One things. Actually I've translated each wiki file of the manual in a
single chapter.
The result is that we have many chapter even for a simple topic.
I think it's better to give a better architecture to the whole manual, for
example, we can
write all the chapter with the title and the text TODO inside it. So the
manual structure doesn't
have big change in the time and we can easily fill it. Do you have any idea
on how this structure
will be? I'll try to look into the TortoiseXXX manuals!

paolo

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[thg-dev] Issue 399 in stable: shell extension leaks GDI objects by the dozen

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 399: shell extension leaks GDI objects by the dozen
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/399/shell-extension-leaks-gdi-objects-by-the

Adrian Buehlmann / abuehl on Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:00:06 +0200:

Comment:
  Fixed with http://bitbucket.org/abuehl/thg-stable/changeset/49f6846acc09/

Should appear in 0.8.1


Changes:
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[thg-dev] Issue 395 in stable: crash when view changelog

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 395: crash when view changelog
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/395/crash-when-view-changelog

Steve Borho / sborho on Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:13:55 +0200:

Comment:
  There have been some memory problems found in hg 1.3 involving changesets 
with large numbers of copies (or renames).  This has been fixed on hg-stable 
and will be in 1.3.1 (and THG-0.8.1).

Please retest this after 0.8.1 is released.

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[thg-dev] Issue 380 in stable: green taskbar icon

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 380: green taskbar icon
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/380/green-taskbar-icon

Anonymous on Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:19:07 +0200:

Comment:
  It seems thgtaskbar keeps dying of broken repository every time you copy a 
repository directory - as opposed to cloning it - which makes this somewhat of 
a serious issue.  To replicate, copy (using Windows drag-and-drop) a repo 
to/from a slow media (like a USB stick).

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[thg-dev] New issue 401 in stable: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
New issue 401: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/401/allow-to-hide-the-thgtaskbar-icon-or-completely-drop

Anonymous on Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:49:06 +0200:

Description:
  thgtaskbar does a nice job in the background, it does however have no reason 
at all for notifying the user, so shouldn't take space in the system's 
notification area (systray) - at least optionally so.

Why not add an entry to the context menu for displaying the dialog and run 
thgtaskbar UI-less (enabling/disabling it could also be done from that dialog)?


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Re: [thg-dev] [thg] 0.8.1 is imminent

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Borho
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Giampaolo Fadel wrote:
>> 2009/7/16 Steve Borho 
>> Is the base input file in XML?  If so that's a bit regrettable, as XML
>> is not a very writer friendly format.  We should look into one of the
>> more simpler markup languages like reST that can produce input for
>> docbook.
>
> Yes, the input file is XML! I agree with you it is not so confortable to
> edit in plain text,
> but exist some editors that help a lot, like xmlmind or packages for emacs.
> TortoiseSVN
> manual is written directly in docbook (there is in its repository a
> hacking.txt with some rules
> that we can apply here). 'Mercurial. The definitive guide' has switched from
> Latex to docbook.
>
> Now I'll look into reST and I'll test it.

Great.

>>
>> > I think that after the alignment of the content, it's time to move the
>> > project in a subfolder of thg project, so it can better follow the new
>> > features of thg and it can be integrated in the thg build process.
>>
>> Certainly.
>
> Now my repository is aligned with the wiki, and I've updated the download
> section.
> So if you want you can include them in the next 0.8.1 distribution .
> I suggest you to wait the analysis of reST before move the repository in the
> thg project.

When I create 0.8.1, I'll take the docs available for download from
your project page.

BTW: The urls for bitbucket in the PDF header do not need www in front of them.

>>
>>
>> > I'd like to know if TK is doing some work in contrast with my work and
>> > what
>> > he think.
>> >
>> > The stylesheet can be improved a lot but we can do it day by day.
>> >
>> > Up now there is no wiki Creole output so the online manual must be
>> > remove or
>> > we have two manual source documentation.
>>
>> Yep, I'll do this at the same time.  This wiki will just have the CHM
>> and PDF files for download, until we get a web host that can serve
>> static HTTP pages.
>
> Yes
>
>
> One things. Actually I've translated each wiki file of the manual in a
> single chapter.
> The result is that we have many chapter even for a simple topic.
> I think it's better to give a better architecture to the whole manual, for
> example, we can
> write all the chapter with the title and the text TODO inside it. So the
> manual structure doesn't
> have big change in the time and we can easily fill it. Do you have any idea
> on how this structure
> will be? I'll try to look into the TortoiseXXX manuals!

I agree it could be arranged better.  There are people who do this
sort of thing for a living, and I am not one of them, so I'm not going
to try to lay down the law on the document layout.  It does not need
to follow the Wiki layout, that's for certain.

Moving the TODO lists into their own document is not a bad idea.

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[thg-dev] Issue 380 in stable: green taskbar icon

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 380: green taskbar icon
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/380/green-taskbar-icon

Adrian Buehlmann / abuehl on Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:54:35 +0200:

Comment:
  See <> which will be included in 0.8.1. Please try again with 
0.8.1 as soon as it's available (presumably in the next couple of days).

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[thg-dev] Issue 401 in stable: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 401: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/401/allow-to-hide-the-thgtaskbar-icon-or-completely-drop

tortoisehg on Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:34:30 +0200:

Comment:
  It does notify the user when update activity is in process by turning green.

If someone were to implement this, the approach I recommend would be to add a 
checkbox for the taskbar icon to the settings dialog.  When the change is 
applied, it should send a signal to the taskbar app over the named pipe (if 
it's open) to tell it to restart.  Since the taskbar app is written in Python, 
it would be straight-forward for it to read the configuration out of the user's 
Mercurial.ini file.

Changes:
  status: new -> open
  responsible: nothing -> tortoisehg

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Re: [thg-dev] [thg] 0.8.1 is imminent

2009-07-16 Thread Giampaolo Fadel
2009/7/16 Steve Borho 

> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Giampaolo Fadel
> wrote:
> >> 2009/7/16 Steve Borho 
> >> Is the base input file in XML?  If so that's a bit regrettable, as XML
> >> is not a very writer friendly format.  We should look into one of the
> >> more simpler markup languages like reST that can produce input for
> >> docbook.
> >
> > Yes, the input file is XML! I agree with you it is not so confortable to
> > edit in plain text,
> > but exist some editors that help a lot, like xmlmind or packages for
> emacs.
> > TortoiseSVN
> > manual is written directly in docbook (there is in its repository a
> > hacking.txt with some rules
> > that we can apply here). 'Mercurial. The definitive guide' has switched
> from
> > Latex to docbook.
> >
> > Now I'll look into reST and I'll test it.
>
> Great.
>

Started! Obviously the help from anyone is very very welcome.

>
> >>
> >> > I think that after the alignment of the content, it's time to move the
> >> > project in a subfolder of thg project, so it can better follow the new
> >> > features of thg and it can be integrated in the thg build process.
> >>
> >> Certainly.
> >
> > Now my repository is aligned with the wiki, and I've updated the download
> > section.
> > So if you want you can include them in the next 0.8.1 distribution .
> > I suggest you to wait the analysis of reST before move the repository in
> the
> > thg project.
>
> When I create 0.8.1, I'll take the docs available for download from
> your project page.
>
> BTW: The urls for bitbucket in the PDF header do not need www in front of
> them.


Fixed and uploaded


>
>
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'd like to know if TK is doing some work in contrast with my work and
> >> > what
> >> > he think.
> >> >
> >> > The stylesheet can be improved a lot but we can do it day by day.
> >> >
> >> > Up now there is no wiki Creole output so the online manual must be
> >> > remove or
> >> > we have two manual source documentation.
> >>
> >> Yep, I'll do this at the same time.  This wiki will just have the CHM
> >> and PDF files for download, until we get a web host that can serve
> >> static HTTP pages.
> >
> > Yes
> >
> >
> > One things. Actually I've translated each wiki file of the manual in a
> > single chapter.
> > The result is that we have many chapter even for a simple topic.
> > I think it's better to give a better architecture to the whole manual,
> for
> > example, we can
> > write all the chapter with the title and the text TODO inside it. So the
> > manual structure doesn't
> > have big change in the time and we can easily fill it. Do you have any
> idea
> > on how this structure
> > will be? I'll try to look into the TortoiseXXX manuals!
>
> I agree it could be arranged better.  There are people who do this
> sort of thing for a living, and I am not one of them, so I'm not going
> to try to lay down the law on the document layout.  It does not need
> to follow the Wiki layout, that's for certain.


Sure that, I am less good than you in this. Even here help from anyone is
welcome.

>
>
> Moving the TODO lists into their own document is not a bad idea.
>
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>

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[thg-dev] Issue 401 in stable: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 401: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/401/allow-to-hide-the-thgtaskbar-icon-or-completely-drop

Adrian Buehlmann / abuehl on Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:37:19 +0200:

Comment:
  In Windows XP you can set the "Hide inactive icons" in the "Taskbar and Start 
Menu Properties" dialog. Right click on the taskbar and select "Properties" 
from the context menu to open that dialog (see attachment 
"taskbar-properties.png").

Then click on the "Customize..." button to open the "Customize Notifications" 
dialog (see attachment "customize-notifications.png").

There select the "TortoiseHg RPC server" in the left column. This enables the 
"Behavior" dropdown menu for the rpc server. Then you can choose "Always hide".


Added attachment: customize-notifications.png

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[thg-dev] Issue 401 in stable: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 401: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/401/allow-to-hide-the-thgtaskbar-icon-or-completely-drop

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:24:02 +0200:

Comment:
  //It does notify the user when update activity is in process by turning 
green.//

How useful is that notification, actually? Wouldn't anyway the user wait for a 
few seconds, if things seem slightly off? That notification (which BTW is 
disablable) has some kind of "hey look, I'm doing my job!" notion, which does 
seem pointless to me.

//In Windows XP you can set the "Hide inactive icons"//

Well, enabling that option will replace the thgtaskbar icon with an arrow for 
showing the thgtaskbar icon. How is that supposed to help? ;-) (Disclaimer: 
I've currently disabled that option, as I do actually always want to see the 
two(!) other icons are visible down there.)

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[thg-dev] Issue 401 in stable: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 401: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/401/allow-to-hide-the-thgtaskbar-icon-or-completely-drop

Adrian Buehlmann / abuehl on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:59:45 +0200:

Comment:
  You can disable the change to green as well in the options for the rpc server 
as well.

Closing this as wontfix for now, as you can achieve everything with already 
available features.


Changes:
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Re: [thg-dev] [thg] 0.8.1 is imminent

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Borho
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Giampaolo Fadel wrote:
>
>
> 2009/7/16 Steve Borho 
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Giampaolo Fadel
>> wrote:
>> >> 2009/7/16 Steve Borho 
>> >> Is the base input file in XML?  If so that's a bit regrettable, as XML
>> >> is not a very writer friendly format.  We should look into one of the
>> >> more simpler markup languages like reST that can produce input for
>> >> docbook.
>> >
>> > Yes, the input file is XML! I agree with you it is not so confortable to
>> > edit in plain text,
>> > but exist some editors that help a lot, like xmlmind or packages for
>> > emacs.
>> > TortoiseSVN
>> > manual is written directly in docbook (there is in its repository a
>> > hacking.txt with some rules
>> > that we can apply here). 'Mercurial. The definitive guide' has switched
>> > from
>> > Latex to docbook.
>> >
>> > Now I'll look into reST and I'll test it.
>>
>> Great.
>
> Started! Obviously the help from anyone is very very welcome.

Found this:

http://docutils.sourceforge.net/sandbox/oliverr/docbook/

I'll try to find some time this evening to test it out.

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Re: [thg-dev] [thg] 0.8.1 is imminent

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Borho
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Steve Borho wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Giampaolo Fadel wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2009/7/16 Steve Borho 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Giampaolo Fadel
>>> wrote:
>>> >> 2009/7/16 Steve Borho 
>>> >> Is the base input file in XML?  If so that's a bit regrettable, as XML
>>> >> is not a very writer friendly format.  We should look into one of the
>>> >> more simpler markup languages like reST that can produce input for
>>> >> docbook.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, the input file is XML! I agree with you it is not so confortable to
>>> > edit in plain text,
>>> > but exist some editors that help a lot, like xmlmind or packages for
>>> > emacs.
>>> > TortoiseSVN
>>> > manual is written directly in docbook (there is in its repository a
>>> > hacking.txt with some rules
>>> > that we can apply here). 'Mercurial. The definitive guide' has switched
>>> > from
>>> > Latex to docbook.
>>> >
>>> > Now I'll look into reST and I'll test it.
>>>
>>> Great.
>>
>> Started! Obviously the help from anyone is very very welcome.
>
> Found this:
>
> http://docutils.sourceforge.net/sandbox/oliverr/docbook/

And this:

http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/tools.html#rst2xml-py

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[thg-dev] Issue 401 in stable: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 401: allow to hide the thgtaskbar icon (or completely drop it)
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/401/allow-to-hide-the-thgtaskbar-icon-or-completely-drop

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:20:15 +0200:

Comment:
  //You can disable the change to green as well in the options for the rpc 
server as well.//

In which case that icon sitting in the //notification// area won't do any 
notifying at all! What's its point, then, except for taking away space and 
offering an entry point to an options dialog which could just as well be 
provided elsewhere? I'd even argue for it these kinds of options rather be 
expected in the context menu where all the other options are than in a 
different place, making this a usability issue as well.

//you can achieve everything with already available features.//

Sure, I can kill the thgtaskbar process in the Task Manager or keep it from 
starting by editing the Registry, but I wouldn't call that an "available 
feature". (Note: If you so far need all the notification icons visible, having 
Windows hide it isn't a solution.)

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[thg-dev] New issue 402 in stable: usability: make Commit button more notable

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
New issue 402: usability: make Commit button more notable
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/402/usability-make-commit-button-more-notable

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:41:30 +0200:

Description:
  The main action in the Commit dialog is to commit. However, that button isn't 
found on the bottom right (as in most dialogs) nor at the top left (as in most 
non-dialog windows). Why not move it somewhere you'll more intuitively click 
instead having to read through the buttons - such as the top left?

Note: Opening several of the other windows for the first time, I note that this 
is a consistent issue in all the windows, and Refresh is always the first 
choice while the main action is the second. Is Refresh really that more common 
(I've never needed it so far)? Why not move it all the way to the right end of 
the toolbar, if you want Refresh in a consistent location?

BTW: For comparison, TortoiseSVN uses a dialog instead of a window and thus has 
the commit button at the bottom (the work-flow thus being to read through the 
content and then to finally commit, while for TortoiseHg the work-flow seems to 
be to either just commit or read through the window and then come back, which 
is fine by me).


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[thg-dev] Issue 320 in stable: Select TortoiseHg language through the Options menu

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 320: Select TortoiseHg language through the Options menu
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/320/select-tortoisehg-language-through-the-options

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:55:15 +0200:

Comment:
  You can set the LANGUAGE variable under Control Panel -> System -> Advanced 
-> Environment Variables.

Then again, I'm fine with a command line utility to be in English (most of them 
are), but having a non-translated UI feels quite strange, even more so 
considering that all OS APIs will happily tell you the user's choice of UI 
language (no need for exposing a configuration option in the UI, under Windows 
e.g. just use either GetUserDefaultUILanguage  or GetLocaleInfo).

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[thg-dev] New issue 403 in stable: usability: make Esc close the dialogs

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
New issue 403: usability: make Esc close the dialogs
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/403/usability-make-esc-close-the-dialogs

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:04:03 +0200:

Description:
  Currently, the only ways to close a dialog such as Commit, is to either aim 
for the small [X] at the window's top right or to hit Alt+F4, both of which 
feel quite frustrating, as (1) for all the other actions, the buttons are 
bigger and thus much easier to hit and (2) in all native Windows dialogs, Esc 
closes it - and is also significantly easier to hit than Alt+F4.

IOW: Please make the dialogs Fitts'ier (in the 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitts'_law sense)!


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[thg-dev] New issue 404 in stable: usability: require less clicks for common actions

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
New issue 404: usability: require less clicks for common actions
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/404/usability-require-less-clicks-for-common

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:13:38 +0200:

Description:
  TortoiseSVN has the option to auto-dismiss the confirmation of a successful 
commit, which makes the Commit button the last thing you have to hit usually.

TortoiseHg currently requires me to not only close the confirmation manually, 
but to //also// close the Commit dialog itself (which caused me to report issue 
#403).

This makes TortoiseHg //feel// heavier to use, when it wouldn't have to be.

This applies to most if not all dialogs, even the very simple Create Repository 
dialog insists in being manually closed, even though it's quite useless when 
invoked from the context menu (I'd rather use the context menu again instead of 
typing a new path or navigating through that miniature Explorer version offered 
by the [...] button, if I ever wanted to create a second repository directly in 
a row - which has never happened to me so far).


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[thg-dev] New issue 405 in stable: usability: make Enter create a new repository

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
New issue 405: usability: make Enter create a new repository
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/405/usability-make-enter-create-a-new

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:18:30 +0200:

Description:
  The "Create a new repository" dialog looks like a dialog and even closes on 
Esc but doesn't do its default action on Enter. When invoking that dialog from 
the keyboard through [App] -> T -> C -> Enter, you should be just one more 
Enter away from creating that repository (and maybe a further Enter from 
confirming that creation).

BTW: Would you accept patches for the latest few "usability" issues (402 to 
this one)?


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[thg-dev] Issue 402 in stable: usability: make Commit button more notable

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 402: usability: make Commit button more notable
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/402/usability-make-commit-button-more-notable

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:42:32 +0200:

Comment:
  The refresh button location is just a quirk of history.   There's no good 
reason for it to be prominently listed as the first icon.  Especially now that 
F5 works in all the dialogs.

Changes:
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  kind: bug -> enhancement
  responsible: nothing -> tortoisehg

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[thg-dev] Issue 403 in stable: usability: make Esc close the dialogs

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 403: usability: make Esc close the dialogs
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/403/usability-make-esc-close-the-dialogs

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:49:21 +0200:

Comment:
  We have common keyboard accelerators for all of the tools.

* CTRL-Q closes the app
* CTRL-W closes the top window

I won't make ESC close the main applications (commit, log, datamine, etc) as 
they are not meant to be transient windows.

Changes:
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  responsible: nothing -> tortoisehg

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[thg-dev] Issue 404 in stable: usability: require less clicks for common actions

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 404: usability: require less clicks for common actions
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/404/usability-require-less-clicks-for-common

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:50:56 +0200:

Changes:
  status: new -> open
  kind: bug -> enhancement
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[thg-dev] Issue 405 in stable: usability: make Enter create a new repository

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 405: usability: make Enter create a new repository
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/405/usability-make-enter-create-a-new

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:59:29 +0200:

Comment:
  Most of the dialogs are [enter] activatable.  We obviously missed this one.

I'll take patches for usability improvements, except for the ESC key for the 
primary applications.  Call it personal preference but I use VIM all day and 
hitting the ESC key is like tapping your feet, you do it subconsciously.

There are plans to improve the 'hgcmd' dialog, where most mercurial operations 
are performed, in 0.9.   Mercurial tip now has a proper progress bar API for 
getting progress notifications, so we'll be able to communicate work in 
progress to the user much better than we do today.   I would also like it to 
auto-close in situations where you know it did trivial work and the command 
succeeded.

Changes:
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  responsible: nothing -> tortoisehg

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[thg-dev] Issue 403 in stable: usability: make Esc close the dialogs

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 403: usability: make Esc close the dialogs
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/403/usability-make-esc-close-the-dialogs

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:02:59 +0200:

Comment:
  //they are not meant to be transient windows.//

Not even under Windows, where there's no other way to invoke them than through 
the context menu and where all other windows opened this way are indeed 
transient?

And considering that you have to open a different window for different actions 
(as opposed to be able to do everything in the same place), wouldn't it make 
sense to be able to get rid of them quite quickly?

BTW: Thanks for the hint about Ctrl+Q and Ctrl+W. These are annoyingly 
undiscoverable, being non-standard under Windows (only MDI/TDI applications 
honor Ctrl+W, and only applications having originated on other platforms honor 
Ctrl+Q). ;-)

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[thg-dev] New issue 406 in stable: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
New issue 406: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/406/unable-to-clone-stable-tortoisehg

Chris Haueter / chrishaum on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:58:20 +0200:

Description:
  I am unable to clone the stable repository.  How else am I to install the 
software?

When I run this:
$ hg clone https://chrish...@bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/

I get:

destination directory: stable

abort: Permission denied: stable



Thanks,
Chris


Responsible:
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[thg-dev] Issue 406 in stable: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 406: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/406/unable-to-clone-stable-tortoisehg

Chris Haueter / chrishaum on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:18:49 +0200:

Changes:
  content: I am unable to clone the stable repository.  How else am I to 
install the software?

When I run this:
$ hg clone https://chrish...@bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/

I get:

destination directory: stable

abort: Permission denied: stable



Thanks,
Chris
 -> I am unable to clone the stable repository.  How else am I to install the 
software?

When I run this:
$ hg clone https://chrish...@bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/

I get:

destination directory: stable

abort: Permission denied: stable



Thanks,
Chris

[Update: I downloaded the zipped source file.  Problem resolved.]


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[thg-dev] New issue 407 in stable: no lines in annotate page

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
New issue 407: no lines in annotate page
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/407/no-lines-in-annotate-page

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:48:53 +0200:

Description:
  When I defined the default arguments for 'hg annotate', datamine give no 
annotate lines on the annotate page.

{{{
[defaults]
annotate = -u -n
}}}

The problem used to happen once and was fixed in 8c2e626f703a. Looks like it 
has returned somehow.

TK


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[thg-dev] Issue 403 in stable: usability: make Esc close the dialogs

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 403: usability: make Esc close the dialogs
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/403/usability-make-esc-close-the-dialogs

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:51:33 +0200:

Comment:
  We are a young project, and up until release 0.8 there were much more 
pressing problems to address, so a lot of this stuff has been pushed under the 
rug for a while.  But it is improving at quite a good rate.   The next minor 
release of 0.8 will include at least some basic documentation, so feature 
discovery should become less difficult.

I expect the next feature release to have major usability improvements.

We're moving towards tying these applications together.  For instance, in 0.8 
you can do nearly everything from the changelog tool except some working 
directory operations, and those you get to from the commit tool.  So from two 
apps you get 90% feature coverage.

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[thg-dev] Issue 407 in stable: no lines in annotate page

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 407: no lines in annotate page
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/407/no-lines-in-annotate-page

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:05:38 +0200:

Comment:
  FWIW: The [defaults] section has been deprecated in hg-1.3 (but not yet 
removed) because of this exact sort of thing.  You really don't want user 
configs like this to break arbitrary tools.

What happened is that in the very next commit to datamine.py, you moved that 
functionality into hglib.py thgdispatch() and made it more general 6ab1df0a7b5e 
(usually a good thing).

In THG 0.8, the thgdispatch() function is no longer used since we can now 
safely call directly into Mercurial's dispatch() function without worrying 
about ui instances being created outside of our control (which was the only 
reason thgdispatch existed).

I think this can be resolved by moving the [defaults] clearing code up into 
hgcmd_toq.

Changes:
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  responsible: nothing -> tortoisehg

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[thg-dev] Issue 406 in stable: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 406: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/406/unable-to-clone-stable-tortoisehg

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:07:04 +0200:

Comment:
  Having zipped source is like dancing with your sister.

Try this:

hg clone http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/

Changes:
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[thg-dev] Issue 407 in stable: no lines in annotate page

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 407: no lines in annotate page
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/407/no-lines-in-annotate-page

TK Soh / tksoh on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:11:26 +0200:

Comment:
  Thanks for clarifying. While Matt has decided the defaults section is too 
troublesome to maintain, I still find it a rather useful feature for me to 
break the habit. 

Time to switch to aliases.

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[thg-dev] Issue 407 in stable: no lines in annotate page

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 407: no lines in annotate page
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/407/no-lines-in-annotate-page

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:18:32 +0200:

Comment:
  hglib, hgthread: disable [defaults] configurations

Fixes #407 and similar as yet unreported bugs

→ <>

Changes:
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[thg-dev] New issue 408 in stable: Refresh in merge mode overwrites merge commit message

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
New issue 408: Refresh in merge mode overwrites merge commit message
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/408/refresh-in-merge-mode-overwrites-merge-commit

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:22:42 +0200:

Description:
  Annoying enough to be fixed on the stable branch.

Responsible:
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[thg-dev] Issue 408 in stable: Refresh in merge mode overwrites merge commit message

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Issue 408: Refresh in merge mode overwrites merge commit message
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/408/refresh-in-merge-mode-overwrites-merge-commit

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:22:59 +0200:

Changes:
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[thg-dev] Issue 406 in stable: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 406: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/406/unable-to-clone-stable-tortoisehg

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:28:05 +0200:

Comment:
  I neglected to mention that usability fixes should go on the crew 
(development) branch.

http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/crew/wiki/Home

hg clone http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/crew/

Changes:
  status: open -> resolved

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[thg-dev] Issue 403 in stable: usability: make Esc close the dialogs

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 403: usability: make Esc close the dialogs
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/403/usability-make-esc-close-the-dialogs

Anonymous on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:49:46 +0200:

Comment:
  Thanks for the explanation. I'm looking forward to the road the UI's going to 
take, then.

Does it still make sense to point out issues with the UI at this point, or 
should I rather wait for a later version until filing further issues, should I 
encounter them?

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[thg-dev] Issue 406 in stable: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 406: Unable to clone stable tortoisehg repository
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/406/unable-to-clone-stable-tortoisehg

Chris Haueter / chrishaum on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:50:29 +0200:

Comment:
  //Having zipped source is like dancing with your sister.//

Hilarious.

I discovered the problem, though.  I needed root access to install in the 
folder.  Retried with sudo.  Problem solved.

Chris

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[thg-dev] Issue 403 in stable: usability: make Esc close the dialogs

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 403: usability: make Esc close the dialogs
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/403/usability-make-esc-close-the-dialogs

Steve Borho / sborho on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:03:29 +0200:

Comment:
  Point away.  User feedback is how we improve.  For the most part, I've been 
taking patches that tweak the UI as people scratch their particular itches.  
People who 'vote' with patches, so to speak, have more influence on the final 
product.

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[thg-dev] Issue 368 in stable: hgtk --repository has no effect

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 368: hgtk --repository has no effect
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/368/hgtk-repository-has-no-effect

TK Soh / tksoh on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:51:38 +0200:

Comment:
  It feels odd to have different behavior based on the choice of repository 
(from the user standpoint). Would it be better to not push hgtk into back at 
all, until a permanent solution is found?

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[thg-dev] Issue 402 in stable: usability: make Commit button more notable

2009-07-16 Thread issues-noreply
Issue 402: usability: make Commit button more notable
http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/issue/402/usability-make-commit-button-more-notable

Giampaolo Fadel / paolof on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:30:05 +0200:

Comment:
  Another issue (silly) related to commit button is the icon.
The icon is an arrow to the bottom left corner, while in the explorer context 
menu is an arrow to the top right corner. It seems the opposite action.

I'll try to change STOCK_OK to STOCK_REDO (an arrow to top right) in commit.py.
The icon is very similar to the icon in the context menu, but, de facto, it is 
the 'redo' icon and near to the 'undo' button it can be confused with redo 
action. Perhaps inserting a separator between commit and undo the result is 
better,  I didn't test it.

May be we have to make ourself the icon.

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