Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 'connection refused' by squeeze server

2011-05-31 Thread mlsstl

jgoor;634059 Wrote: 
 I run the latest squeezeserver on ubuntu linux 10.04.
 With softsqueeze I can play music from that server.
 
 My out-of-the-box Squeezebox Touch however gives the following
 message:
 squeezeplay: ERROR  net.http - SocketHttp.lua:390 SocketHttp {Johns
 muziekdoos_Chunked}:t_sendRequest.pump: connection refused
 
 Can anyone help me with this please?
 
 Thanx!

Check your firewall settings in Ubuntu. It needs to be open for traffic
on ports 9000 (tcp) and 3483 (tcp  udp). You should be able to restrict
this to your local network if you desire.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 'connection refused' by squeeze server

2011-05-31 Thread jgoor

I will try that but just being curious: can you explain why softsqueeze
*does* work apparently with this same firewall setting?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 'connection refused' by squeeze server

2011-05-31 Thread Mnyb

softsqueeze are you running it on the same machine ? Then the firewall
is not involwed.

UFW is only a frontend for iptables, the firewall is on UFW is used to
configure iptables.. ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 'connection refused' by squeeze server

2011-05-31 Thread mlsstl

jgoor;634082 Wrote: 
 I will try that but just being curious: can you explain why softsqueeze
 *does* work apparently with this same firewall setting?
 
 EDIT:
 root@slarti:~# ufw status
 Status: inactive
 
 Ubuntu by default has no firewalling.
 I guess this will not be the problem

Does your home network have a router? You might check that. 

Is the SoftSqueeze player on the same machine as the server or a
different box? 

Are you using the router's DHCP for IP assignment? You want consistent
use of addresses within your network. 

I'm a Fedora Core user (which comes with the firewall turned on), so am
not familiar with Ubuntu beyond general Linux basics.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread Cut-Throat

I contacted Logictech Support with this question. I will post their
answer for the benefit of others.

*
If you are using the Squeezebox Server, the computer with that program
needs to be on the same router or access point.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread JJZolx

Cut-Throat;633870 Wrote: 
 The SBTouch can connect to the Access Point just fine also, but when
 trying to connect to My Music that is stored on my shared drive on my
 Desktop Computer, it cannot locate this.

Where the music is stored is irrelevant. The Touch is not accessing a
network share, nor 'connecting' to My Music. It only needs to connect
to the Squeezebox Server.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread Mnyb

Is that not an oversimplification for things to work automatically sbs
and it's players needs to be on the same network, this network can
consist of several ap's etc .

You can work around it by portforwarding and  manually setting the
server-ip .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread JJZolx

Start all over...

Yes, the important thing is that the Squeezebox and SB Server need to
be on the same network in order to automatically see each other.

How is the new access point wired? If it's connected to the old router
via it's 'WAN' or 'Internet' port, then anything behind the new router
will be on a different network. In order to operate as an access point
on the same network as the old router, the new router needs to be
connected via  one of its LAN ports to a LAN port on the old router.

What are the IP addresses of the server and the Touch? On the Touch, go
to Settings  Advanced  Diagnostics and find the IP address. On the
server, in the web interface go to Settings  Information  Server IP
Address.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread Cut-Throat

I deleted my post with the answer from Logictech Support, because their
suggestion that the Computer that is running SBS should be on the same
access point as the touch, did not work either.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread Cut-Throat

JJZolx;634115 Wrote: 
 Start all over...
 
 Yes, the important thing is that the Squeezebox and SB Server need to
 be on the same network in order to automatically see each other.
 
 How is the new access point wired? If it's connected to the old router
 via it's 'WAN' or 'Internet' port, then anything behind the new router
 will be on a different network. In order to operate as an access point
 on the same network as the old router, the new router needs to be
 connected via  one of its LAN ports to a LAN port on the old router.
 

Yes, the 'new' router is connected to the old router via a LAN port.
The access point is functioning correctly as far as my laptop is
concerned. I have 1 Network and 1 Access Point. 

The SBS software cannot even see the SBT when connected to the access
point. Even though I now have my desktop (running the SBS software)
plugged into the same access point also.

I'll have to check on the IP addresses.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread JohnSwenson

Aha, the Touch and the server ARE on different subnets so the discovery
protocol is not going to work. To try and find each other Both the
Touch and the server send out a UDP multicast packet, basically saying
is anybody out there. This only works if the Touch and the player are
on the same subnet.

There are a couple possibilities:

you have a static IP on the Touch, set to the wrong subnet, higly
unlikely, you have to WORK to do that.

Your new router is still behaving as a router, not a pure AP. This is
the most likely case.

You have a couple options at this point:

figure out how to get that new router to REALLY be an AP (no routing no
NATing).

Skip the auto discovery part and tell the Touch the actual IP address
of the server. There IS a screen on the Touch that will let you type in
the address of the server (it probably calls it a remote library), I
don't remember exactly how to get there, I think its in the My Music
menu. The actual playing music can be on a different subnet, its just
the auto discovery part that needs to be on the same subnet. 

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread Cut-Throat

JohnSwenson;634133 Wrote: 
 
 Skip the auto discovery part and tell the Touch the actual IP address
 of the server. There IS a screen on the Touch that will let you type in
 the address of the server (it probably calls it a remote library), I
 don't remember exactly how to get there, I think its in the My Music
 menu. The actual playing music can be on a different subnet, its just
 the auto discovery part that needs to be on the same subnet. 
 
 John S.

Thanks for your help...

I found where you can type an IP address into remote library into the
Touch.

It is in SettingsAdvancedNetworkingRemote Libraries

I now have listed there 192.168.0.108  -- If I try to connect to that,
it does recognize that it is my Desktop-Den, but I still get an error
message There is a problem when trying to connect to Desktop-Den


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[SlimDevices: Touch] 100 song max in playlist using Tiny SBS??

2011-05-31 Thread bitstopjoe

I just put on my HD, Rolling Stones 500 best songs in FLAC. Went to play
it on my touch and it said it was only able to load 100 songs into the
playlist.
I am using the built-in server on the touch with a USB HD attached (
120 gb).
Is this limitaion because of the Tiny SBS? Any way around it?? I
looked in the settings/advance section but I was not able to see any
way to change this. Just curious if one can.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread JJZolx

Cut-Throat;634137 Wrote: 
 Update---
 
 So, then I decided to start all over and set up New Router as an Access
 Point again.
 
 I found these instructions and followed them to a T.
 
 http://www.speedguide.net/articles/how-to-set-a-wireless-router-as-an-access-point-2556
 
 After following these instructions, I am still not able to connect to
 the SBS running on my Desktop. I get the same error message.

Is the IP address of the Touch now on the same 192.168.0.x subnet as
the server?

It's hard to understand how the Touch had an IP address of 192.168.1.x
if all other DHCP servers on the network had been disabled.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread JJZolx

Cut-Throat;634193 Wrote: 
 When connected to the new Access Point, 
 My touch's IP address is still 192.168.1.2
 
 BTW - The IP Address of my Laptop when connected to this access point
 is 192.168.0.102

Both connected wirelessly? And you're sure the laptop is connecting to
wireless of the WRG614 and not the old router? If so, that's strange.

Do a factory reset of the Touch if you haven't already done so, go
through the setup again, and see what you get.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread Cut-Throat

JJZolx;634195 Wrote: 
 Both connected wirelessly? And you're sure the laptop is connecting to
 wireless of the WRG614 and not the old router? If so, that's strange.
 
 Do a factory reset of the Touch if you haven't already done so, go
 through the setup again, and see what you get.

Yes, the laptop is connected wireless as well as the touch. The laptop
is definitely connected to the WRG614 as I have changed the SSID to
Access-Point and can see it connected.

I'll do the factory reset tomorrow -- I am guessing it won't change a
thing. - But who knows?

Thanks for help!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread JJZolx

The only other thing that could be going on is that there's another DHCP
server running on your network that is handing out addresses on the
192.168.1.x subnet.

Are you sure you've disabled the DHCP _server_ on the WGR614, and not
just the DHCP _client_? It could be confusing. I'm sure they can both
be disabled in the configuration options of the router.

Although it's not required, you normally want such a network device to
have a static IP address. To do so, you would disable the DHCP *client*
on the router, so that the router itself doesn't retrieve an IP address
from the original DHCP server. Then assign the new router an IP address
that is outside the other DHCP server's address pool.

Then you also must disable the DHCP *server* on the new router.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 100 song max in playlist using Tiny SBS??

2011-05-31 Thread aubuti

Yes, TinySBS has a max playlist size of 100 tracks. Unlike regular SBS
there is no way to alter this on TinySBS. Well, maybe you could hack
the code in TinySBS. But the 100 track limit was put in place for
performance reasons, so even if you hacked it you might not like the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread Cut-Throat

JJZolx;634195 Wrote: 
 
 Do a factory reset of the Touch if you haven't already done so, go
 through the setup again, and see what you get.

Just did a Factory reset and then connected it wirelessly through my
Access Point. Still no access to my SBS. IP Address still reads
192.168.1.2


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access my Network Drive with New Access Point.......

2011-05-31 Thread Mnyb

? Strange it is.

Your AP's own ip adress is in the 192.168.0.x range ? So you did not
follow that guide you linked to to literarly, they exemplified with a
network adressed 192.168.1.x including the main router...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 'connection refused' by squeeze server

2011-05-31 Thread jgoor

Softsqueeze is on a different machine.
I do use a router but since softsqueeze works properly I maght assume
the router will not be an issue...?

Nice to know: I recently moven from the Roku Soundbridge. That used to
workt in exactly the same way. The only difference may be ports.


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