Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB drive : mastering TinySB
FYI: Be sure to read the post on how to organize your music folders and album art so as to not overload TinySB. BTW - welcome to the squeezebox family. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82070 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB drive : mastering TinySB
MDB;609821 Wrote: With much interest I read the opening post. For over half a year I've been doubting if I should buy a SB-Touch or not. The setup I want is the same like Jeans: a Touch fed by an external USB-disk. I don't like the thought of energyconsuming NAS under my desk, even my babygirl has 'green'lightbulbs in her bedlighting. The only device that may make my electric meter go rinkle is my beautifull vacuum tube amplifier :) So I was thinking to buy a USB-powered WD 160Gb Elements and a SBTouch and hook it all together. My question to you is: is it the best choice? In the posts you wrote I sometimes read some cynism and it makes me wonder if I'm doing the right thing. I do know a thing or two about computers and Linux etc, so a bumpy road won't make it impossible for me to get to my destination. But if the SBTouch turns out to be a 10k miles journey, I might get an alternative. I wouldn't call it a 10K but its no walk in the park either. I began using the full SBS on an old refurbished PC after a couple of months of trying (sometimes successfully) to use TinySB with an attached USB self powered 320GB HDD (~15,000 mixed FLAC/MP3 files). If the post I just read here is correct, I will look forward to going back to the attached USB HDD and TinySB. However, in the mean time, using the server is a lot more convenient than hassling with the Touch to listen to music. This is not to say that it doesn't work, it does, so IMO don't use that as a breaking point in deciding to go with the Touch, once you listen to the thing, you wont be disappointed. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82070 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Compatible 32Gb USB Memory Stick Req'd
All I can say is that I once tested a generic 8GB thumb drive and it didn't work well at all. I guess you have stick with a name brand and try it out first. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] gave up with tinySBS but got improved sound
Good stuff guys ... really creative :) -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83555 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] gave up with tinySBS but got improved sound
I did the same. Now I'd like to know what can we use the USB port and SD Card slot for? Any practical ideas? -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83555 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch + USB harddrive = complete rubbish
Hi Trixster, Mnyb is absolutely right about the underpowered CPU in the Touch. You should first search out this forum for the compatibility issues mentioned and about how your music is stored on the external hdd before giving up. There are issues with album art and extraneous files (ie non audio files) that could be slowing or crashing the Touch. Most of all stay with it and you wont be disappointed. Try an external SBS on a PC in the meantime while you figure out whats crashing your setup. Believe me it works, not flawlessly, but it works. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82176 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB drive : mastering TinySB
I maybe have understood just half of what you did and how you did it but I congratulate you on your persistence. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82070 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
yup -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
Hi Mark, glad youre sticking it out with the SB Touch. I felt I had to chime in on some of the issues brought up in this thread. Like you, I too stressed out at first try setting up a standalone Touch, but I eventually got it working. I just ordered my second SB Radio yesterday (this time in black). For some time now Ive been running the Touch as my main network music server using TinySBS and an attached hard drive. It hasnt been easy but Im determined to make it work as its supposed to as a standalone network music player ( this is NOT my mission statement). Fortunately for me, I started out using a NAS connected to my PC running SBS and THEN tested the Touch using a USB stick and an SD card BEFORE trying a WD MyBook hdd, which, btw, didnt work. I eventually purchased a powered 320GB USB (Fat32) Hitachi 2.5 hdd that has been working fine ever since (fine = headaches, heartbreaks and plain and ordinary frustration). What's truly unfortunate is the TinySBS itself. Dont get me wrong, it work!! BUT, how so miserably. Its sooo unstable and sooo unpredictable, however, sooo clever too. I must agree with toby10, Logitech SHOULD dedicate more developer time looking into ways of stabilizing this gadget. Like he says, its a great product and a great idea just poorly implemented. I can handle using a PC music server running SBS as a last resort or for instance, a party, however, I really want this to work as a standalone. I dont write code and Im not a power user Im just a music lover, nothing fancy, just very serious about quality sound. The Touch has it if only it could stand up to its reputation and hype. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FLAC and 1TB
souwalker;573149 Wrote: Wow, with 858 Cds, will only dent the 1TB NAS :-) Cool.. Ripping project will commence this weekend. Rgds Pat Have fun ... I know I did. Just be cautious about the album art. Try to keep just one cover.jpg in each album folder and make sure they're no larger than 500x500. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81590 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice
Mnyb;572017 Wrote: Our wiki has some info for you: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_as_a_Home_Music_Server http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setting_Up_Squeezebox_Touch_Server http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Troubleshooting_Squeezebox_Touch_Server Kudos to whoever improves the articles all the time. What they say: We cannot recommend using Squeezebox Touch Server with more than 2 additional Squeezebox players. Above that, a PC or Mac running Squeezebox Server is recommended. it may still work . With your asus solution you will have the web-UI and options to run plugins. And the asus may even have the cpu to do some transcoding AAC for the BOOM for example or 24/96 files for the duet etc. Thanks so much for this post. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81490 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Low volume output from sync'd devices
innovstar;567785 Wrote: I'm have a problem with my Touch (wired) when sync'd to a SB Radio (wireless), the audio output out of the radio is poor and I unable to control it via the UI on the the touch. While sync'd the radio's volume seems to be disabled. Streaming works ok Both devices are running 7.5.1 and I'm using TinySC. The problem is the same using the Internet Radio and my USB Drive (500GB Lenovo USB Drive) I've lost faith with Logitech tech support, who seem to be lacking in knowledge of their product (was told that syncing was only possible with a controller). Is there some setting that will enable this to work correct or I'm missing something? Many thanks in advance. I have this same setup and what works for me is having the Radio connect to the Touch as Player (not sync'd). In SYNC mode the Radio's volume is controlled by the Touch (and visa versa). So you have to choose Touch as Player on your Radio (ie Choose Player Touch) menu. Hope this is what your looking for. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81044 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
I agree, the Squeezebox Radio and the Touch complement each other perfectly. I have this exact setup and I'm thrilled when I can run same or different streams of music around the house at the same time. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server
I use the Touch with attached HDD mostly on weekends and holidays so I eject the HDD but leave the Touch running on mysqueezebox.com to listen to internet radio. Once its attached I usually leave it connected for a few days. To re-attach the drive I first start TinySC and when it asks for a USB or SD card I attach the drive. Re-scan doesn't take very long after the initial full scan. Sometimes it's a hit and miss situation, at times I have to reboot the Touch before re-attaching the drive. It just takes a little patience but it works for me. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80902 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBS stops from time to time
I had a similar problem at first. I could never finish a complete scan with an attached HDD. What worked for me was having each album folder with only the music files (FLAC, mp3) and just ONE cover.jpg (not much larger than 500x500) per album folder. None of my music files have embedded album art. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80790 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Now Playing/Artwork lags behind
I just noticed it this morning but I'm running a USB attached hard drive. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80014 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Standalone with HDD Which File Format?
I have been using an attached hard drive for about a month now. Every weekend I add anywhere between 20 to 30 gb of music (50/50 mp3/FLAC) to the 200gb already stored on it from my music collection on my NAS. This is the same music that has always worked with my Touch/PC/NAS arrangement, except I deleted all the non-music files except for one cover.jpg for each directory. The attached drive uses external power because the Touch doesn't supply enough power for it to work right (not a big deal to me). I really haven't witnessed any buffering problems or error messages. So, I suggest, for quick and dirty ripping, rip to mp3 but if you want to conserve music quality rip to FLAC using moderate compression. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79896 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with Touch?
Peter, I eventually decided to buy a small 320GB 2.5 hdd. I had to add external power but all I have on it is music files and it has worked out just fine. I had too much stuff on my WD 1T hard drive a lot of which was not music so I'm using it for other things now. Its a lot less frustrating and really just a small investment for some good old peace of mind. Hope this helps. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is too large for TinySC?
floater;556547 Wrote: iPod=Works as advertised Touch=Doesn't work as advertised. Maybe it will eventually, but it certainly doesn't with a USB drive right now. Nothing anyone is saying changes that. So just give up on the waffle OK. If you all REALLY want to compare functionality, I suspect an iPod Touch actually can have more uses that the Squeezebox of the same name. I hear you can even get a related model with a phone... This is just NO TRUE. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Big problem + Choosing usb hd for Touch...
jwo;553185 Wrote: I'm now a happy guy. I got mine working too with a Hitachi SDMINI 350GB HDD. I had to add a USB Power Hub for it to work properly but it works just fine. Only music files and one cover.jpg in each artist folder but everything worked as expected with a little over 60,000 tracks of mixed MP3's and FLAC files. Thanks all for the valuable advice and personal experiences given here. I'm happy I had the patience to eventually get it to work ... it really wasn't that hard after all. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79083 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music collection scanning question - can scanning be disabled?
I'd recommend you start off with some of your music on a USB stick or an SD card before jumping into the attached hard drive. My reasons are purely functional. Get the feel of how the Touch works and especially how it sounds. You can always move on to the HDD later. Setup is easy and you wont be disappointed ... just so you don't get frustrated at an early stage. I really don't know if you can turn off the scanning function. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79328 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB playback comlaints unfair
mlsstl;551118 Wrote: What do I think? I think Logitech heavily promoted the player as being capable of doing these things and that no great technical knowledge was required. The expectation was that a hard drive could be plugged in and things would just work. No complicated kabuki ritual required. It there are limitations to the capabilities of the internal server, they should be clearly noted in the company's advertising and user documentation. They are not. I've used a Touch as a traditional Squeezebox player with an external server for the past 6 or 7 weeks and think it's great. I've experimented with it's internal server and a large hard drive three times and never achieved satisfactory results. Note that my computer knowledge is above average and I've been a Linux user for close to 15 years now. So while the Tiny SBS problems don't directly affect my use of the Touch, I can certainly understand the frustration of those who bought one, expecting it to work as advertised. Thanks for expressing so eloquently my personal feelings. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79199 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME (music) PLAYER
I know exactly how you feel BUT I can assure you ... you wont be disappointed if you purchased a Touch. TRUE: don't expect instant gratification with a stand alone Touch/HDD player. You'll be happy enough with a USB stick and/or an SD card with sufficient music storage for the time being. At least until Logitech gets the big library of music on a USB HDD settled. I guess SOME have had luck with an attached hard drive, but I haven't. THREE MORE THINGS: As expected the sound quality is superb... I was like you... I haven't repented of my purchase... -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79118 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Built-in server performance and display contrast issues.
themrock;548630 Wrote: But i have everything in 1 folder. Music, then an extra folder for every Album. Not good? Just a suggestion try ... Music/Genre/Artist/album/ I use general categories like Rock, Classical, Dance, Country, Pop ... etc. It turns out easier to find a particular album if you already know what your looking for. Gotta love the Touch but waiting for a better HDD support options. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78926 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experiencing Touch for a couple of days
Amagerland;542844 Wrote: To PAA, I have been posting about a similar problem - switching between usb/sd playback and internet radio. It isn't working. Your description is very exact. I would like to hear from more user: is this what we can expect. Is there no fix? I bought the Touch specifically because it do not want my computer running as a server. Same problems here, Amagerland. As far as I'm concerned, switching between USB drive, SD card and internet radio should be seamless. Right now its not. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78211 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with Touch?
crimscrem;542718 Wrote: I have a lot of trouble with connection. I regularly get messages saying the Touch is trying to connect. Or sometimes where it can't connect only for it to connect after a wait. Hugely frustrating... I have, unfortunately, been having the same problem with my WD hdd and I don't think its hard drive either. Frustrating is an understatement. I decided to just give up for now ... my weekends are too important to me to waste it fiddling with this thingy. I hope the they get around to making the USB hard drive connection a little more effective. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with Touch?
mfw;541553 Wrote: Just a tad off topic, but the WD My Passport Essential series sleep times can be set with the WD SmartWare software. My 640 GB defaults to 10 minutes. http://www.wdc.com/en/products/index.asp?cat=9 I haven't check yet but I think the bigger question right now is if the HDD gets out of sleep mode when using the NAS, radio or SD card ... most importantly if the HDD wakes up when just using the radio. I'll try sometime this weekend but if anyone else has a result please post. Still very happy with my Touch -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with Touch?
Funny but you guys have my same setup as I do only I haven't connected my hhd yet until I have the rest of my audio system setup complete. My Touch arrived early last week and been mostly using my NAS, an SD card or internet radio. I'd be curious to see how the WD Essential Hard Drive powers down when the Touch is in standby too. And obviously startup again after sleep mode. Maybe after this weekend I can contribute to this thread. In the meantime just gotta love the Touch. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sales or discounts?
Just to spend my 2 cents wisely here; I would have, and could have, bought the Touch at the original suggested price but really couldn't avoid taking advantage of the $20 discount offer from a reputable and reliable dealer ... so I just went ahead a ordered from Crutchfield. In all honesty, I thought the $225 offer was a little too good to be true ... and I hope I'm wrong for all those that ordered there. Anyway ... I just got a UPS tracking number for my order. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77178 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sales or discounts?
iwannatouch;533568 Wrote: . I found a coupon that saves you $20 off a Touch at crutchfield.com. The code is 3A825 and the offer expires 4/30. The site says temporarily out of stock, but I suspect that will change soon. I didn't pull the trigger yet, as I want to continue searching for a better deal during the next two weeks. Well I DID pull the trigger and thanks for the $20 discount coupon from Crutchfield. I guess if I could wait all these months since the Touch first appeared on the audio scene late last year, I can wait a few more days on reserve order. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77178 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
BrianB;525316 Wrote: Ha. So true. 7) Cancel preoder. 8) Now, I'm just casually interested in the Touch. It still seems like a good product, but not sure if I really need it or would use it that much. So, given the cost, I'll wait till it comes out, see how it performs, and reevaluate if I still want one. As far as I am concerned now, they can wait till Christmas, because I'll probably just ask for one as a gift at that point. So true, so true. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
