Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-27 Thread morthan

JohnSwenson;572424 Wrote: 
 Yes, you can use a VortexBox as a general purpose network storage
 device, you can mount it on a Windows computer and it will work just
 like any other drive. 
 John S.

Not sure what you mean by 'you can mount it on a Windows computer'. Do
you mean physically or via the router? Can you still run it as a linux
SBS if you also use it to back up to?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-27 Thread Mnyb

morthan;572427 Wrote: 
 Not sure what you mean by 'you can mount it on a Windows computer'. Do
 you mean physically or via the router? Can you still run it as a linux
 SBS if you also use it to back up to?

As a samba file share via the router ,thats the idea so it will appear
as any other drive in my computer yes it will still be an SBS
server.
This will be how you would send new music to it just drag and drop.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-27 Thread morthan

Mnyb;572428 Wrote: 
 As a samba file share via the router ,thats the idea so it will appear
 as any other drive in my computer yes it will still be an SBS
 server.
 This will be how you would send new music to it just drag and drop.

sorry for being a complete ignoramus but what is a 'samba file share'?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-27 Thread JohnSwenson

morthan;572451 Wrote: 
 sorry for being a complete ignoramus but what is a 'samba file share'?

Samba is a program that runs on linux computers (such as the Touch or
VortexBox), which makes its drives visible on other computers over a
network. 

On windows (at least XP, I don't has vista or Win7) you can bring up
windows explorer and click on network neighborhood, click on windows
network and you should see the vortexbox, click on that and you will
see the drives that it is exporting. Click on the one you want and
you can read or copy anything into it. If you right click on the drive
name you get a menu that lets you mount it, this means it gets a
drive letter like other local drives, that way any windows program can
read or write it just like it was a local drive on the computer. 

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-26 Thread garym

morthan;572179 Wrote: 
 Thanks for your reply again. You've been very helpful. Could you please
 expand on the above? Whats 'vortebox'? How do you access it via a web
 interface? Sounds like a good solution but maybe beyond my technical
 capability.

vortexbox is essentially a liunx operating system (see link) that is
setup for SqueezeboxServer and disc ripping (among other things). One
can also purchase a vortexbox appliance (a small computer already
running Vortexbox).

Read all about it here:

http://vortexbox.org/about/

This may not be the answer for you. One has really four basic options.

1. run mysqueezebox.com (don't need your own computer on, but can't
play your own music either. 
2. Run SqueezeboxServer on your regular home computer (desktop, laptop,
Mac or Windows, etc.). Easy to install SbS and point it to your own
music. Downside is that you either need to leave it on 24/7, set up
Wake on Lan, if your computer has this, or turn it on an off when you
want to use your players.
3. Have a dedicated music server that is on 24/7. This could be a
windows machine, a Mac, a machine running some flavor of linux
(vortexbox for example is already setup for serving SbS)
4. connect USB drive to TOUCH and serve your SB players with tinySbS
inside the Touch.

You can also do a combination of 1 and 2. That is, use mysb.com with
your computer off for internet radio, pandora, etc., and use SbS with
computer on, only when you want to listen to your own music.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-26 Thread morthan

garym;572243 Wrote: 
 vortexbox is essentially a liunx operating system (see link) that is
 setup for SqueezeboxServer and disc ripping (among other things). One
 can also purchase a vortexbox appliance (a small computer already
 running Vortexbox).
 
 Read all about it here:
 
 http://vortexbox.org/about/
 
 This may not be the answer for you. One has really four basic options.
 
 1. run mysqueezebox.com (don't need your own computer on, but can't
 play your own music either. 
 2. Run SqueezeboxServer on your regular home computer (desktop, laptop,
 Mac or Windows, etc.). Easy to install SbS and point it to your own
 music. Downside is that you either need to leave it on 24/7, set up
 Wake on Lan, if your computer has this, or turn it on an off when you
 want to use your players.
 3. Have a dedicated music server that is on 24/7. This could be a
 windows machine, a Mac, a machine running some flavor of linux
 (vortexbox for example is already setup for serving SbS)
 4. connect USB drive to TOUCH and serve your SB players with tinySbS
 inside the Touch.
 
 You can also do a combination of 1 and 2. That is, use mysb.com with
 your computer off for internet radio, pandora, etc., and use SbS with
 computer on, only when you want to listen to your own music.

Thanks garym. I have looked into vortexbox and it looks good. One thing
I am unsure about is whether it can also be used to store other media
such as photos, videos and be used for backup? I am assumning that you
cant use a Windows backup porgram on it? If it cant do back up can it
still be used as a general media server rather than just a squeezebox
one?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-26 Thread JohnSwenson

morthan;572417 Wrote: 
 Thanks garym. I have looked into vortexbox and it looks good. One thing
 I am unsure about is whether it can also be used to store other media
 such as photos, videos and be used for backup? I am assumning that you
 cant use a Windows backup porgram on it? If it cant do back up can it
 still be used as a general media server rather than just a squeezebox
 one?

Yes, you can use a VortexBox as a general purpose network storage
device, you can mount it on a Windows computer and it will work just
like any other drive. Just make sure you don't do general backup to the
directory where the music is stored! I had this happen once and every
little bleep and boing in all the games wound up as songs to SBS! 

John S.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-25 Thread morthan

I have just purchased but not have not yet received a Touch to go with
my 2 Booms, 2 radios, 2 controllers, 1 Duet. I currently have my
library on a Win7 computer and connect all players wirelessly. When I
get the Touch I am thinking of either attaching an external hard drive
via usb and running all my music from this or alternatively using an
Asus eb1501 (netbook without the screen) wirelessly as the server. My
question is which setup should i use? I know the Asus netbook option is
not dissimilar to what I am currently doing but I am prepared to leave
this on all the time as opposed to my main computer which I turn off at
night which means I dont have access to my library. Either option will
solve this but which option is best? Any advice appreciated especially
from people who may have done both.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-25 Thread garym

morthan;572010 Wrote: 
 I have just purchased but not have not yet received a Touch to go with
 my 2 Booms, 2 radios, 2 controllers, 1 Duet. I currently have my
 library on a Win7 computer and connect all players wirelessly. When I
 get the Touch I am thinking of either attaching an external hard drive
 via usb and running all my music from this or alternatively using an
 Asus eb1501 (netbook without the screen) wirelessly as the server. My
 question is which setup should i use? I know the Asus netbook option is
 not dissimilar to what I am currently doing but I am prepared to leave
 this on all the time as opposed to my main computer which I turn off at
 night which means I dont have access to my library. Either option will
 solve this but which option is best? Any advice appreciated especially
 from people who may have done both.

With this many players, I think you'll be much happier with the
performance from the netbook running SbS on 24/7. The Touch will work,
and probably serve all these SB players OK (although the number is
probably stretching it for tinySbS).  And if everything is WIFI, that's
a limiting factor too. You will really be much better served if you
connect your netbook with ethernet to the ROUTER. Then run all your
players WIFI.  Otherwise you have two wireless hops:  netbook to
router, then router to players.  And you don't need a netbook. Take any
old computer, install vortexbox as the system, put it in a closet near
your router, and make this your server. Once setup you don't need
keyboard or monitor. You can access the server from any other computer
on your network via a web interface.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-25 Thread Mnyb

Our wiki has some info for you:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_as_a_Home_Music_Server

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setting_Up_Squeezebox_Touch_Server

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Troubleshooting_Squeezebox_Touch_Server

Kudos to whoever improves the articles all the time.

What they say:

We cannot recommend using Squeezebox Touch Server with more than 2
additional Squeezebox players. Above that, a PC or Mac running
Squeezebox Server is recommended. 

it may still work .

With your asus solution you will have the web-UI and options to run
plugins.
And the asus may even have the cpu to do some transcoding AAC for the
BOOM for example or 24/96 files for the duet etc.


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SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center,
and Contour 1.3SE for the rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4
Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery)
I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-25 Thread carib

Mnyb;572017 Wrote: 
 Our wiki has some info for you:
 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_as_a_Home_Music_Server
 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setting_Up_Squeezebox_Touch_Server
 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Troubleshooting_Squeezebox_Touch_Server
 
 Kudos to whoever improves the articles all the time.
 
 What they say:
 
 We cannot recommend using Squeezebox Touch Server with more than 2
 additional Squeezebox players. Above that, a PC or Mac running
 Squeezebox Server is recommended. 
 
 it may still work .
 
 With your asus solution you will have the web-UI and options to run
 plugins.
 And the asus may even have the cpu to do some transcoding AAC for the
 BOOM for example or 24/96 files for the duet etc.

Thanks so much for this post.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice

2010-08-25 Thread morthan

garym;572015 Wrote: 
  Take any old computer, install vortexbox as the system, put it in a
 closet near your router, and make this your server. Once setup you
 don't need keyboard or monitor. You can access the server from any
 other computer on your network via a web interface.

Thanks for your reply again. You've been very helpful. Could you please
expand on the above? Whats 'vortebox'? How do you access it via a web
interface? Sounds like a good solution but maybe beyond my technical
capability.


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