Re: [translate-pootle] Pootle MultiTab

2008-06-12 Thread Samuel Murray (Groenkloof)
Miklos Vajna wrote:

  Samuel wrote:

  http://leuce.com/tempfile/pootle_multitab_test.zip

  If you can do a diff, that would be appreciated, so that we could see
  what did you achieved.

A diff presupposes that I had changed something :-).  This utility (if 
you can call it that) is simply a single HTML page that opens multiple 
pages from Pootle simultaneously when the user clicks a link.

It is a quickfix to the problem that translators have to wait for the 
Pootle server to serve the next translatable item.  In an offline tool, 
there would be no waiting, so ideally there should be no waiting in 
Pootle either.

Of course, this can solved within Pootle itself by making it possible to 
submit more than item at a time (say, 10 at a time), but that is 
unlikely to be implemented soon.

I wonder if it would be possible to program Pootle in such a way that 
instead of loading the next page when a translator clicks Submit, 
Pootle loads a blank page in the browser that closes the browser window 
after a second or two.

Samuel

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Re: [translate-pootle] Pootle MultiTab

2008-06-12 Thread Clytie Siddall


On 11/06/2008, at 10:27 AM, Miklos Vajna wrote:

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:09:30PM +0200, Samuel Murray  
(Groenkloof) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

new strings to load.  Let me know what you think.  This is a personal
hack, not affiliated to any organisation.

http://leuce.com/tempfile/pootle_multitab_test.zip


if you can do a diff, that would be appreciated, so that we could see
what did you achieved.


This opens multiple tabs in your browser, all showing strings needing  
translation in the chosen file?


That would be useful. I do this manually with different files,  
deliberately opening three or four different files on different tabs,  
then switching between them while waiting for pages to load. However,  
it doesn't work for a single file, because you get the same next  
string shown on more than one page.


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[translate-pootle] Activity data

2008-06-12 Thread Clytie Siddall

Hi everyone :)

I'm finding it difficult to admin projects on Pootle when I have no  
idea who is doing what. If I download the files for some search-and- 
replace offline, when I go to upload them again, I don't know if  
anyone has modified the Pootle files meanwhile, and since the OOo  
Pootle is too overloaded to handle merge operations, I'm left with  
overwrite-and-pray, or download-and-diff (which takes time, so then  
I'm back in exactly the same situation).


Also, on locamotion, for example, I can see some files have been  
partly translated, but in some cases I don't know who has done the  
work. The PO files do show Last-Translator and PO-Revision-Date, but  
that means manually downloading each file to find this information.


I believe that admins really need a user list page, where, at the very  
least, last-login is shown, and more effectively, last files edited.  
Or a list page for each project which simply lists each filename, Last- 
Translator and PO-Revision-Date.


The user drop-down list on the admin page isn't much use. In the case  
of my language, most of the registrants are inactive. I believe this  
is a hole in our registration procedure, and have requested that the  
language or project admin receive an auto-email when someone  
registers, so they can follow up that potential translator and make  
sure s/he gets through to the translation phase. It is evident, for my  
language at least, that the majority of people register, some of them  
confirm, and very, very few know you have to ask for access rights. So  
we lose most of our potential translators.


In general, we need more information on Pootle about who is doing  
what, where and when.


What would be the best way to make this happen?

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Re: [translate-pootle] Pootle MultiTab

2008-06-12 Thread Samuel Murray (Groenkloof)
Clytie Siddall wrote:

 This opens multiple tabs in your browser, all showing strings needing 
 translation in the chosen file?

 ...However, it 
 doesn't work for a single file, because you get the same next string 
 shown on more than one page.

Quite right.  This is why pMultiTab opens ten pages, and the user must 
close all ten pages before opening the next ten pages.  It is easy to 
close pages using a keyboard shortcut such as Ctrl+W.

Unfortunately I can't let pMultiTab close the pages itself because I 
have no way of knowing how slow the user's internet access is and how 
long the page must wait before closing itself.

Samuel


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Re: [translate-pootle] Revision control missing features

2008-06-12 Thread Dwayne Bailey
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 18:31 +0200, Wolfgang Kundrus wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have notived the following using our new Pootle server:
 
 1) The template directory can not be updated with revision control. I 
 have to do that manually.

Yip that a problem.

 2) MO files are not commited, when I commit the translation file, 
 although the project is configured to build MO files.

I don't think you should be committing MO files to version control,
building should be part of the build process and in certain cases MO can
be platform dependent (although I don't think so in our case - or at
last nobody has complained :)

 3) MO files are only generated, when I download them. When I work with 
 revision control, I don't download files. I commit them.

ditto above.

I would like to someone to check out
http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326 which does MO hash
tables, would appreciate any testing.

 Other then that Pootle is a great solution application internationalization.

Thanks :)

 
 All the best
 
 Wolfgang Kundrus
 KristalLabs Software Ltd.
 
 
 
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