Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems
You do realize that RMS himself faced that question and situation? He is a professional software writer and he decided against writing proprietary software for living. Instead he wrote free software for living. Much of free software is written today by paid professionals in addition to the students and hobbyists.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems
You can't make money just from selling free software. You will sell a few copies, then free (as in money) downloads will be all over the internet. The best thing to do would be to free it after a decent amount of money has been made, or to do free software development as a part time job.
[Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.
Samsung Galaxy Star Duos GT-S5282 1.I failed to find the device in compatibility lists. I found Samsung Galaxy S, maybe this is shortening for Star? 2.How can I help to create Replicant/Cyanogenmod version for my model? P.S. I'm not going to return the phone in shop. That was the cheapest Android phone and I have big debts.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?
Ethics are not the only argument for FLOSS. You're right. But the ethical argument is the most absurd for me.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
My thoughts on forum moderation: 1. I personally prefer minimal moderation, but occasionally some is required (see below for more on this)... 2. Excessive and off-topic posting can drown out other posts which is essentially a form of censorship itself. Occasionally there are some users that constantly repost the same things. I think 'vPro' presented this very well. I think after a warning a suspension or ban would be appropriate. 3. I think we can agree to disagree on some things. However, personal attacks etc. are unwelcome. 4. I think non-Trisquel discussions should go in the Troll Hole, since there is currently no other forum for such discussions. For example, the ethics of free software is more political than technical, so maybe that's the best forum for it. This forum is supposed to be about Trisquel with a focus on supporting users. In other words, I'm not suggesting that threads should necessarily be deleted, but perhaps moved or locked if they are off-topic. 5. Moderation is obviously needed to combat spam, I don't think anyone doubts this. 6. Regarding proprietary software, if a user posts a link or recommends other users to give up their freedom, I hope that other users will reply with the usual warnings - I think that's enough to help users who read the post. However, if the sole purpose of a thread is to promote proprietary software, I think it should be deleted. If a user excessively recommends proprietary software, I think they should be warned and then suspended. Deleting threads that recommend proprietary software I guess can be seen as a freedom of speech vs. software freedom issue, but I agree with jxself that there are other places users can discuss proprietary software so the free speech issue isn't so bad. We should defend software freedom instead. Andrew.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?
On 18/12/13 19:20, aaz893 wrote: Why non-FLOSS is unethical? Because proprietary software stops a user from having control over their computer. Many forms of proprietary software save file/s on the computer, which can only be used by proprietary software. If a user sends a file created by a proprietary program to another user, that other user then has the choice of getting a copy of the proprietary software and accepting the EULA, or not using the file. In a lot of cases, proprietary software has a cascading effect and most people end up signing the EULA. All of those users rely on the software developer, who can change the EULA whenever he/she wants to. I highly recommend watching the film Terms And Conditions May Apply for reasons as to why this is dangerous for society: http://tacma.net/. As RMS says, proprietary software is anti-social. All of the users become helpless, and their acceptance of proprietary software cascades and makes more users helpless. So to answer your question, I think proprietary software is unethical because it is anti-social. Andrew.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?
Because proprietary software stops a user from having control over their computer. How about this case: There is not such thing as freedom. All humans are slaves of the God.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?
On 19/12/13 23:13, aaz893 wrote: Because proprietary software stops a user from having control over their computer. How about this case: There is not such thing as freedom. All humans are slaves of the God. Software developers aren't gods, so no need to be a slave. :-) Andrew.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?
man,never heard such crap before.
[Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
http://gdnewhat.org/
Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
It's rpm better than deb? It's Fedora better than Debian? Hard to answer to these questions, so: Why don't join the Trisquel team? They are open to accept new developers in the team. The Linux world is divided in hundreds of distribution. Let's do Gnu/Linux better and united ! Ututo project based on Gentoo is dead , but now we have Gdnewhat.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
Maybe a way to help this, is to have a new area for such debate.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
It looks like they've been doing it for a few months, maybe they should e-mail the FSF and ask them to endorse it?
[Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?
I try to view this file from this post : https://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-libreplanet-2013 but I can't view or download. The download stoped at 4% .Can someone upload it to mediagoblin?
Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?
while i view the use of ubuntuone as a fail, it certainly has gotten past 4% for me (using the suggested wget command).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?
Freedom is not necessarily the ability to do anything; it is the ability to do what is right. People should not need to be ruled by a sinful man, and all humans are sinful. That is why I use libre software. How can you live with atheism, the idea that there is no reason why we are alive? God is just and good, thus I do not mind the idea of being a slave of God. If there is no God, there is no reason to live.
Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?
The download for the speech link works for me.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
I second grimlok's new area idea. At the edges of any debate, there are things to consider, things to ponder. It's uncomfortable there for everyone. However the struggle to express ideas clarifies them. Even though I see RMS's points, and agree with them, I have benefited from reading all the posts. Maybe an area called On Free Software or something like that?
Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?
i spoke to soon. it did eventually stop, and thus far my wget -c .. hasn't restarted it? again, ubuntuone = fail
Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
Seems like they want to focus on an enterprise system. We will change current Fedora Remix base system for enterprise linux system like CentOS(or other clones) in next GdNewHat release in order to become more stable fully free system distribution.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
david said: When situations start to get serious, or just delve into personal attacks, I first try to contact the person individually to ask for a change of attitude, and if that doesn't work as expected, more public measures are attempted (probably the strongest one is right now about to be tested, as today marks the finish of the first two-week account blocking period for a certain user, as you might have read about). It's very important to accept criticism and different points of view, and it's very important to avoid risking open participation recurring to excessive moderation, the line for censorship lies in different places to each one's eyes. On the other hand, this is not just any software forum, so it's reasonable to expect a sensible effort to be made to explain, particularly to those not that much in-the-know, the importance of our principles (and yes, that includes the frequently controversial naming and 'I-have-to-feed-my-children' topics) ;-) I think this is the right approach for these cases. Perhaps the same tactic can be used to deal with the cases where one disrespects the guidelines. I think that this tactic is more useful than banning a user straight away. We are all humans, and we can naturally make mistakes at various situations, like when reading a post/comment. Simply banning someone after reading his post/comment just because it's probably against the guidelines is very cruel. We must also consider the fact that some users (like me, specially) have a native language different from the North American English or from the European English (and any other English variants) and, despite speaking it relatively well, we can make mistakes sometimes. We can also make adaptations of this tactic, like three notices (which may or may not give a time limit for the user to justify or to correct himself), each one followed by a temporary deactivation of his account, and after this, if the user makes another mistake, another notice (with or without a time limit) and a ban. Also, I think that it's best not to have just one moderator, but 3 or 5, which is useful because there is a possibility to get into a consensus before doing anything. Also, if these moderators are worried about attacks of any kind, it's useful to mask them as part of another group (like the administrators, members, users, but not as moderators). Another option would be to have a page listing the notices to the user, along with the quantity of notices and account deactivations received. Each notice could have a footnote indicating how many moderators agree or disagree with such notice, there's no need for the to write comments here because, theoretically, the comments have already been made. The footnote could be like this: “3 moderators agree with this notice, 2 don't”. I think that the notice should not be sent to the user if a single moderator doesn't vote, this assures that all moderators must vote, and on top of that, that they'll be responsible for the vote. The notification must reach the user somehow, that said, if the moderators don't want to be exposed by sending e-mails directly to the user, it's a good idea to place the notice in the user's profile page on this forum, and when doing so, it's a good idea not to have a footnote like “Last edited by ADFENO”. Learning is like a group of mountains, some mountains can be hard to get on top and easy to get down and vice-versa. Sometimes we can even fall from it, and so we'll either have to start again or pass through it too fast and forget about everything we learned. grimlok said: Because of this you will surely get many folks from all walks of software life into the fold. This means a lot of differing views of what freedom in software means. It is a debate that HAS to be made on here I feel. I understand that some people are just plain trolls, but people questioning the intent of Richard Stallman, or the fsf, or free software and the GNU in general, should be allowed to question it so as to understand the view point. grimlok said: Maybe a way to help this, is to have a new area for such debate. I agree. andrew said: 4. I think non-Trisquel discussions should go in the Troll Hole, since there is currently no other forum for such discussions. For example, the ethics of free software is more political than technical, so maybe that's the best forum for it. This forum is supposed to be about Trisquel with a focus on supporting users. In other words, I'm not suggesting that threads should necessarily be deleted, but perhaps moved or locked if they are off-topic. I think that the Troll Hole isn't the right place for such questions because, by doing this, we'll eventually do something which tells the involved users something like this: “Even if this question has been made by a new user, we consider it as troll intent”. Best regards, ADFENO.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
Very interesting indeed! Finally, Japanese folks haven't fell asleep; and stupid me nearly lost all hope in their nation and software freedom aspect on path of their future development. I am really happy to see such an effort showing up apart from quite known VineLinux [http://www.vinelinux.org/]. Don't bash them for not cooperating and uniting, yet. Please. (=
Re: [Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.
Replicant developer (more accurately, someone allowed to call myself one) here. Unfortunately, the Galaxy S and Star are not the same device. If you want Replicant support for the device, it needs to have CyanogenMod support first. But the existing CyanogenMod developers don't take device requests. You can try a port yourself by looking at their porting guide. The good news is, this device actually looks it would be a good target for Replicant if there were CyanogenMod support. I'll have to ask Paul the lead developer about that. Finally, you should know that the Replicant project itself has forums for questions like these! See http://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/boards.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I bought a Replicant/Cyanogenmod-incompatible Android phone.
Note for Armworm and other users: I promise that I won't discuss this here anymore. I have a Samsung Galaxy Pocket Plus (GT-S5301B), which I won from my biological father as a birthday gift. It's a class M (Magical) smartphone [1], and in the last time I checked, it isn't supported by Replicant. I can't return it because I think that it would look like some kind of negligence by my part, specially considering the fact that my biological father started to care for me just this year. Also, it's the only cellphone I have and my contacts call me by the number of my current SIM card, which I have since 2010. I would like to test a Replicant build in my current cellphone, but at the moment, I am too dependent on its stability. I managed to install F-Droid and a terminal emulator, but I can't properly login as an administrator. Anyway, I won't go any further because this forum is not for smartphones. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?
How can you live with atheism, the idea that there is no reason why we are alive? That's not atheism. That's nihilism. Don't confuse the two. All being an atheist means is that you don't believe in any god or gods. More colloquially, that you don't believe in any religion. Most atheists I have seen (including myself) are not nihilists, and don't think that there's no reason to live or whatever. I know it's hard to imagine, but if you ever find that the evidence for whatever god you believe in is unconvincing after all, you'll see that it really doesn't matter. You just get on with your life. (One exception: if you get forced out of a religious community you're attached to because of this, I've heard that the result is devastating. But this is because of loss of a community, not the loss of a belief in a god.)
[Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
It's the Gluglug refurbished IBM ThinkPad X60. http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/gluglug
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
haha, i just posted another topic with this same information, didn't see your post.
[Trisquel-users] FSF endorses a fully free laptop
they certified the gluglug thinkpad that has been mentioned here in the forums. pretty cool.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
Great minds think alike! :) Here's the shop btw http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/ Happy days.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
Nice! Does this mean there's finally a computer RMS can use?
Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?
It's also available in Rubén's personal blog http://quidam.cc/01-04-2013/talk-libreplanet-2013
Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate
We published a press release, too: http://www.fsf.org/news/gluglug-x60-laptop-now-certified-to-respect-your-freedom @lloydsmart: This is the first laptop RMS would recommend people to buy and use as is. RMS and the FSF have many machines that run only free software (and user installable firmware).
Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
I just found this distro the other day. i think it's very interesting, especially if they're going to be putting out a RHEL clone that's fully free.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) released.
Updated to release 9. New stuff: additions to the random duengon map darkhold9 improvements to the spell casting system (if you don't know the spell but have a scroll of the spell the scroll will be read) Keys: Z X and C (iter forward, backwards and cast). Bunch of stuff for the release before this one (food, more maps, etc) http://sourceforge.net/projects/chaosesqueanthology/ http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/chaosesqueanthology/Rel_9/XonoticChaosEsqueAnthologyREL9.iso?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fchaosesqueanthology%2Fts=1387493371use_mirror=garr http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/chaosesqueanthology/Rel_9/XonoticChaosEsqueAnthologyREL9.iso?r=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fchaosesqueanthology%2Ffiles%2Flatest%2Fdownloadts=1387493421use_mirror=switch Try out darkhold9 with just medeval weapons (and a torch) and a few bots. There are lots of monsters and just like pandornormalcy it reconfigures its connections every play. Never the same map twice.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
Tried it in a VM and it seems to work pretty well. Updated the software using their tools. All worked. Uses 3.11 Libre kernel now. Very slick interface, gnome 3 out of the box neat and clean. It is very interesting as others have said.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) released.
You got a prank call about the mod?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum moderation
Users who want to promote proprietary software can go to the many other proprietary software forums and promote it there.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
It appears that they want to wait until they're rebased on CentOS before doing that.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?
Ethics is the whole point of Free Software.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
What's better about CentOS? As far as I know, CentOS is rebranded, has RHEL's proprietary software removed, and you can get gratis binaries.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Merry Grav-mass!
Grav-mass is an atheistic movement I find that strange; Isaac Newton was a Christian.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Merry Grav-mass!
But it is propagated by Richard Stallman as an attempt to avoid celebrating the Christian holiday Christmas.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Merry Grav-mass!
That's why I think it's ironic!
Re: [Trisquel-users] New RPM-based fully free system distribution
It's based on Fedora right now, which gets frequent updates and reaches end-of-life quickly, and they want a more stable system.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?
ssdclickofdeath FTW
[Trisquel-users] Why there is a .rpmdb directory in my system?
While creating backups I happened to notice this directory called .rpmdb (with files in it). Is this normal? What does this directory do?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why there is a .rpmdb directory in my system?
I seem to have one as well. Looks like a similar folder is related to the rpm package manager. I don't know what that's doing on a system that eats deb packages. Unless we both have ran alien, which converts rpms to debs, I might've.
