Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is better as per privacy and security?
They are both totally different approaches which you cannot really compare. I would also distinguish between privacy and anonymity.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is better as per privacy and security?
It is of course Tor. The second solution means you are naked but _some_ advertising companies can't see you. Tor protects your privacy in a lot more ways (see for instance https://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https). Keep in mind that tor can only hide your identity if it's used the right way: https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en#warning
Re: [Trisquel-users] My wifi card that isn't supported.
On 25.07.2014 04:13, ch...@thinkpenguin.com wrote: I'm actually shocked how high your prices are! Your little adapter is 17x what I can get it for off eBay! [ everybody laugh ] I was decent in my previous post, but I see you are bulling me. I expected more from you, Chris. I am not aware of offerings on eBay of this device. And Tehnoetic TET-N150, ThinkPenguin TP-N150USB and Unex DNUA-93F is exactly the same device device (I acknowledge it's Unex DUNA-93F on my product page). So my little adapter is your little adapter, is Unex's little adapter. And I didn't buy it for $2, even in buk it costed me about the same price you expect a wifi adapter to be available in resellers stores. Although I bought it at this price from the manufacturer. I'm just trying to point out how silly this is. Prices a year ago were higher than they are today and we've dropped them accordingly. Obviously the product offerings above are significantly different too. It's like comparing apples to oranges. With a $2 wifi adapter you don't actually expect the product to work, be supported, etc. Really, you are doing FUD? We set the price for the item your referring to YEARS ago. The costs have come down since then and we spent months testing the waters to figure out what volume would work to get the profit margins as thin as possible. As it stands I'd be surprised if you can withstand the competition from us. I've noticed you were trying to put me out of business as soon as I entered the market and applied for RYF. In a post on this forum, you specifically pointed out that ThinkPenguin has cut the prices almost to half and the offer is better than one can find at competition. I was the competition you were referring to, because once FSF has announced the RYF certification for Tehnoetic TET-N150, you asked them to update it so it states ThinkPenguin ships to Europe as well. Not the other way around. And by that I mean your not making sufficient profit at this price point to make it worthwhile selling. At least not in small quantities. You made enough profit last year to have the power to try to force me out this year. But I will not quit, instead I am working on extending my offer with other freedom-respecting devices under the Tehnoetic brand. What is most humorous about this competition thing is that it would appear you responded to us and not the other way around. My colleagues telling me you had set a much higher price originally and it was only that by the time you announced it we had dropped our prices. It was only then that you lowered yours. That's incorrect. I started by having prices lower than you and continued to adjust them so I can stay competitive. I payed 50 euros for an adapter from you in December. (And it arrived in 30 days.) My initial offer was 45 euros and shipping was included as it always have been for Tehnoetic TET-N150. For 1-year warranty, the cheapest shipping which can choose that can take 6-10 (to most destinations, may exceed 30) days, you get ThinkPenguin TPE-N150USB for €24,5. You get Thenoetic TET-N150 with 2-year warranty and shipping up to 5 days for €25. If you choose air mail for a comparable shipping time of 1-5 days, you get your ThinkPenguin TPE-N150USB for €31. If you choose a longer warranty (you have only 3-year option left), you get it for €35. So is my Tehnoetic project small? Yes. Does it have better offer than ThinkPenguin? Yes. In all cases above, my offer is better in at least one regard (being that the warranty, the price, or fast air mail shipping). Lastly I've been contributing to the free software world a lot longer than ThinkPenguin has been around. So have a lot of the people around here. We're all struggling to one degree or another. That's no excuse to be rude to one another. Excuse me? I only asked people to not forget Tehnoetic TET-N150 is also RYF-certified, just becuase ThinkPenguin financially sponsors Trisquel, when advicing new comers what wifi adapters they should buy to work with free software. And if that's not enough, competition makes offers better for users and I am still small having sold less than 100 devices and need support. I'd have much rather worked with you than against you. Of course you did, Chris. I didn't feel working with you, because I didn't like the way you were doing business or your philosophy (freedom-friendly, nonfree BIOS, nonfree distros and you wanting to become mainstream) and because I think independence is important and is possible in the free software world we are building. I don't wish to bash your efforts, but when you so blatantly attack a project I've worked several years on it does get under my skin. You have your feelings hurt because I told people the truth. And in response you spread FUD ($2 adapter, x17 on eBay) and bullied me (everybody laugh). -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967
Re: [Trisquel-users] My wifi card that isn't supported.
I've searched the linked site for raspberry pi without any result. If you make such accusations be more explicit and provide detailed information.
Re: [Trisquel-users] My wifi card that isn't supported.
On 25.07.2014 04:28, b...@bobcall.me wrote: You don't seem to care that much about free software since you are That's a false assumption. endorsing hardware that needs non-free blobs as seen here : https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-libre-tet-n150 I am not endorsing any of the hardware besides the TET-N150. And the ASUS laptop displayed has nonfree BIOS, but I can see why you didn't picked on that too, because ThinkPenguin sells nonfree BIOS laptops. I am not happy with the hardware displayed along my adapter, but at the time those were the only devices I could easily get to make some photos. I can try to get an x60 with libreboot and a Gluglug sticker and make a photo with the TET-N150 in it as a proof of concept. I can try to find another board too, and I welcome suggestions. Meanwhile, I can try to blur the Raspberry Pi logo. If you are not aware, the raspberry PI is not a free software friendly device. My friends use it as a personal server with no graphical interface. I am not an owner myself, but I can understand why it's better to change the board because of the graphics which require nonfree software. Regarding how much care about free software I have, take a look again at my product page. You won't see any nonfree distro endorsed as you see on ThinkPenguin's: Ubuntu, Ubuntu, LXLE, LinuxMint (not Mint or GNU/Linux Mint, CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux( not GNU/Linux), OpenSuSE, *Raspbian* etc. While ThinkPenguin specifically says it supports Raspbian (the nonfree Debian-based ditribution to work on Raspberry Pi), I don't say I support the distribution used for the Pi, I don't say I support the Pi hardware. My photo can tell users my adapter supports the Pi, but I don't even state that. From this to endorsing the Pi, is a long way. But anyway, I got your point, you confirmed my doubts I had about that photo in the first place. Oh, and I forgot to mention one more reason I didn't want to work with ThinkPenguin: its name refers to Linux, the kernel, with a penguin as its mascot. The name translated means think the Linux way. Well, the Linux way is open source camp's way, it's what we fix by blacklisting nonfree blobs in Linux. That way is the way the free software movement don't agree with and that way is the most important reason why RMS insists on including GNU along Linux in the name of the GNU system with Linux, the kernel. So that users have the chance to learn about GNU and its free software philosophy and don't follow Torvalds blindly. -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
Re: [Trisquel-users] My wifi card that isn't supported.
Most computers need a piece of proprietary software (the bios) in order to boot except the old gluglug thinkpad and the even older lemote yeeloong. I think the majority of members in this board think that we can endorse such systems nevertheless (thinkpinguin laptops for instance) since it's almost impossible or at least very hard to get a free bios. Can't see much difference to the raspberry pi once the graphics stack is freed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
Lazarus *is* libre. What's the problem?
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
Then something must be broken. I get the following error when compiling an application in Lazarus: /usr/bin/ld: warning: link.res contains output sections; did you forget -T? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgtk-x11-2.0 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdk-x11-2.0 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpango-1.0 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcairo project1.lpr(19,1) Error: Error while linking project1.lpr(19,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping I've tried to install some packages in Synaptic, but fails. (broken dependencies)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is better as per privacy and security?
I agree with Eben Moglen that privacy is really a combination of anonymity (which you protect with Tor) and secrecy (which you protect with encryption).
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
You have to be more specific. Which packages did you try to install and what were the error messages? Otherwise nobody can help.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I might install Mint 17 in Vbox if I can't print.
Have you checked h-node.org for hardware compatibility.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is better as per privacy and security?
Real anonymity is not possible with Tor only. You have to combine a set of solutions, like mac randomization, anoymous internet access from public wireless, vpn and Tor. Even by using this techniques you might still get identified by service provides like google, which e.g. analyse your typing style.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I might install Mint 17 in Vbox if I can't print.
I might install Mint 17 in Vbox if I can't print. - is this a threat? Of course you can do whatever you want to, but by using trisquel, you agreed to know that hardware issued might occur because of the lack of free drivers available. If you cannot live with that, you propably don't want to use it. Back to your question: lsusb might help. You should also provide some more details, like printer model etc.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is better as per privacy and security?
Real anonymity is not possible with Tor only. You have to combine a set of solutions, like mac randomization, anoymous internet access from public wireless, vpn and Tor. Can you give some references for this statement? Normally those techniques are not necessary. Even by using this techniques you might still get identified by service provides like google, which e.g. analyse your typing style. Analysing your typing style they can only _guess_ that it's you but they will never know for sure. We should not mix this up with the reveiling of your ip adress. Please don't spread FUD.
[Trisquel-users] Re : My wifi card that isn't supported.
Is it bad to support non-free systems? I do not think so. Users need to make a transition from proprietary to free. I'd rather not see the creation of an apparently impermeable border between the 100%-free GNU/Linux systems and the rest of them. Do you complain that https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ (Emacs' main page) mentions Mac OS X, Windows and Solaris? As for the distribution names not mentioning GNU, they actually are the names chosen by the projects themselves. I certainly do not approve those choices but is it a reason to change them? Maybe... I would prefer the name ThinkGNU to ThinkPenguin. Anyway ThinkPenguin is no ThinkLinux. And I do not think the name matters more than the speech and the actions.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Greetings Trisquel users
Welcome to the community Thiago! (= With every purchase in need mind Software Freedom, you shall be good then. Otherwise for hardware compatibility you may use http://h-node.org/. As far as I can tell, I've tried Trisquel first in version 3.0 or 3.5. Good old times, constant hard soft CPU lockups due to extremely experimental nVidia chip support. Still I wish to become a paying member. Unsure whether Rubén the founder, is still coding the brighter future for kids in form of Sugar OLPC learning desktop environment simultaneously while being a lead maintainer of GNU IceCat fork of Mozillian web browser. Anyways, seems like in ver. 33 there is gonna be this controversial OpenH264 cross-platform implementation [http://www.openh264.org/], we shall see then.. I hope for EME extensions disabled by default as well. Have a nice user experience and don't get discouraged by any challenges you face on road to independent computing and digital nomadism. ;D
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
According to a post I found in another forum: libgtk2.0-dev I get the following messages: libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libpango1.0-dev but it is not going to be installed Depends: libcairo2-dev but it is not going to be installed libpango1.0-dev aldo needs libcairo2-dev So, I try to install that and get: libcairo2-dev: Depends: libcairo2 (=1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3) but 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3+12.04ac1 is to be installed Depends: libcairo-gobject2 (=1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3) but 1.10.2-6.1ubuntu3+12.04ac1 is to be installed And I'm stuck there, because those dependices is already installed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is better as per privacy and security?
Starting with Belenos, Tor is included by default for Incognito window. In form of xul-ext-torproxy + tor client. For those interested in hosting own relay node, I suggest hardened image made by a developer from Gentoo project that fits into RAM with small memory footprint. d-_-b \m/ http://blogs.gentoo.org/blueness/2014/05/23/tor-ramdisk-a-tiny-embedded-image-to-host-a-tor-relay-or-exit/
Re: [Trisquel-users] My wifi card that isn't supported.
At the end of the day Think Penguin can call their company whatever the hell they like it's none of my business. People talk about freedom on here which is not just software but freedom to express yourself and your own opinion. Yes most hardware is proprietary to some extent. As long as it is capable to run Trisquel isn't that all that matters. Cant we all just get along! They can take away our hardware but they'll never take away our freedom, lol.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Seven!!!
I've been using it for the building and development of libreCMC. - Way cool man, way cool! (= Good luck with that, I will be one of your first testers. Since I am stuck with this s*it.. (see attachment). Neither I tried admission into https://www.turris.cz/en/ project nor am I able to grab a https://openwireless.org/ compatible box.
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
Obviously the problem is libcairo... This shouldn't happen since every package which appears in the repos should be installable. Did you try installing the .deb package from http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?page=downloads ? You install it via sudo dpkg -i name_of_the_package.deb and you might have to run a apt-get install -f afterwards to fix the dependencies. Maybe it's a slightly older version which avoids the problems with libcairo. Also try a dpkg--reconfigure
Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : My wifi card that isn't supported.
On 25.07.2014 14:27, magicban...@gmail.com wrote: Is it bad to support non-free systems? I do not think so. Users need to make a transition from proprietary to free. I'd rather not see the creation of an apparently impermeable border between the 100%-free GNU/Linux systems and the rest of them. Do you complain that https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ (Emacs' main page) mentions Mac OS X, Windows and Solaris? My commercial project Tehnoetic is an extension of my activist work. I don't need to list all common nonfree distros to say TET-N150 works on them. I am advancing GNU/Linux-libre beginning with the title. I didn't want to partner with ThinkPenguin, I wanted to be independent and still do. I just listed my reasons and this one is one of them. I run my business differently and strive to follow ethics in technology. I have a question in the FAQ section where I write it works with other systems (partially free distributions and Windows, while on Mac OS it doesn't), but there is no guarantee the automatically installed firmware is the free one, because those systems don't respect their users' freedom (for instance, I advice all my Debian clients to not follow the Debian wiki page and install the nonfree firmware). Instead, I point them to download and install the Trisquel deb package. I have taken steps to convince Debian to change its policy, include the free firmware package and recommend it to be installed, instead of the nonfree one. https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc#Installation https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc/open_firmware As for the distribution names not mentioning GNU, they actually are the names chosen by the projects themselves. I certainly do not approve those choices but is it a reason to change them? Maybe... See how the GNU project refers to them. We can try to make them change their name to include GNU or use just the brand and put GNU/Linux in description, if it's too long for them to include it in their trademark. Regardless of their cooperation, I will not make the same mistake to call them Arch Linux or Linux Mint. http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html I would prefer the name ThinkGNU to ThinkPenguin. Anyway ThinkPenguin is no ThinkLinux. And I do not think the name matters more than the speech and the actions. I don't like the name ThinkPenguin because it sends the wrong message. And let us not forget the logo is a penguin and GNU mascots weren't among penguin mascots at the ThinkPenguin stand advertised here. Everybody is free to do whatever they want, me included. I didn't want to work together with ThinkPenguin, although I respect and followed their example with the freedom-respecting wifi adapters. That's all. I hope this answers the freedom of expression question raised by another forum user. -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
[Trisquel-users] laravel
hi Can I use laravel?? Is it free?
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
I downloaded the .deb package and tried to install it, but it needs the 'libgtk2.0-dev' package. I also tried to run, apt-get install -f, but it didn't fix anything.
Re: [Trisquel-users] laravel
According to the the readme file (https://github.com/laravel/laravel/blob/master/readme.md) it is under the MIT license which is considered to be a perfectly free software license. So don't hesitate to use it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
There are ways to install lazarus but Has problems in the license( license violation)
Re: [Trisquel-users] I might install Mint 17 in Vbox if I can't print.
HP Deskjet Ink Advantage 3525
Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is better as per privacy and security?
Ah, ok. Thanks guys! :D
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
How many times do we have to tell you that there seems to be *no* problem with the license. If you have further information please go ahead and explain it to us.
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
I am not convinced I think we should ask rms
Re: [Trisquel-users] SSH/SFTP to access free webhosting?
OpenShift: https://www.openshift.com/ (Gratis, HTTPS, SSH, SFTP) fortrabbit: http://fortrabbit.com | https://my.fortrabbit.com/register (Gratis, HTTPS, SSH) Free Shell Accounts: http://shells.red-pill.eu/
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
Ok, but please just bother this busy man only if you have serious doubts and if there is some ground for your suspicion.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Seven!!!
I'm glad that you have an interest in libreCMC. Sadly, we can't support any ADSL+ modems / routers due to the non-free firmware that they need. In regards to the OpenWireless project, there are some talks with the libreCMC project where we may include some components that they use. Sadly, their current images have non-free parts, but I am quite supportive of the idea of giving free wifi access to people. If you want a router with libreCMC, ThinkPenguin will soon be selling one that will include libreCMC along with a nice source code CD (includes libreCMC + u-boot bootloader).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Changing virtualbox with AQEMU
I guess this is the reason I believe reading somewhere that virtualbox should not be suggested then.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : My wifi card that isn't supported.
El 25/07/14 07:20, Tiberiu C. Turbureanu escribió: Everybody is free to do whatever they want, me included. I didn't want to work together with ThinkPenguin, although I respect and followed their example with the freedom-respecting wifi adapters. That's all. I hope this answers the freedom of expression question raised by another forum user. That is nice. I think that I align with your ethic perspective more. I also agree that ThinkPenguin has spearheaded the provision of hardware which respects your freedom. Then comes Gluglug and then Tehnoetic. All three are constructing a great ecosystem that helps users become free. I think that it would be more useful for all projects that support freedom (in a greater or lesser degree) to collaborate instead of competing. Of course that competition would make the prices go down and the quality to lower. But it could destroy some of the competitors. It is best to collaborate. -- Saludos libres, Quiliro Ordóñez 600 8579 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[Trisquel-users] Re : I might install Mint 17 in Vbox if I can't print.
That printer can perfectly work: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_3520_series.html However, it requires a more recent version (3.12.6 or later) of HPLIP than the one in Trisquel 6's repository (3.12.2). You may want to early adopt Trisquel 7: http://devel.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/ Otherwise, install that .deb of a more recent version of HPLIP: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-backports/hplip That .deb requires some dependencies (GDebi will indicate them) that you would also have to download from the precise-backports section of http://packages.ubuntu.com
Re: [Trisquel-users] My wifi card that isn't supported.
https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers From FSF's website: The startup program is, in fact, the same program that runs the GPU and the video decoding hardware. Thus, the GPU and the video decoding hardware are unusable in the free world, but these jobs can be done with free software on the CPU. Also, someone ported Broadcom's code. http://www.raspberrypi.org/quake-iii-bounty-we-have-a-winner/ So I'm pretty sure this should allow the Raspberry Pi to boot without the blob.
Re: [Trisquel-users] My wifi card that isn't supported.
He was referring to the picture on the USB adapter's product page.
Re: [Trisquel-users] fre version from lazarus
I had that problem before, I think I installed an older version of libcairo2.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Seven!!!
I'm looking forward to hearing the news! I've been anticipating 7 for some time, especially with news of a newer version of Pitivi in the mix.
[Trisquel-users] LAN party: free software recomendations?
Hi all, it has been a while since I have done a lan party. Any recomendations? Any kind if game: shooter, strategy, arcade,... Our Lan speed is really good but our broadband is pretty bad and we rather not use it. -- Enviado desde mi teléfono con K-9 Mail.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Seven!!!
Some video editors using MLT: http://www.mltframework.org/bin/view/MLT/Projects See flowblade: https://code.google.com/p/flowblade/ and Shotcut: http://www.shotcutapp.com/
[Trisquel-users] nsa makes Linux users terrorists and MS Windows the only legal OS
naoI found this news http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=113405.0%3Bwap2 Is this true?? We've become terrorists naoI want to migrate to another planet Like Uranus To get absolute freedom. And does not require refrigeration for cooling the CPU
Re: [Trisquel-users] nsa makes Linux users terrorists and MS Windows the only legal OS
The URL at the beginning of the article clearly has the word 'satire' in it, it appears to be from 2009, and the link is no longer active.
[Trisquel-users] consultation
Dear, I turn here because I got tired of sending emails from the contact form on Trisquel and never answered any. Me monthly debited from my credit card money because I give my economic contribution to Trisquel, but lately my financial situation is not the same a few months ago, and here in Argentina the currency change does not favor us, for which I want unsubscribe and stop contributing financially to Trisquel, but not how to do it because I contact and nobody answers me. Does anyone know how to unsubscribe? From already thank you very much to all.
