Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
There was some acknowledgement / agreement that as long as the default settings were within the FCC regulations there was no problem with the source being publicly available. I think having to modify the driver/firmware and then compile it is non-trivial for an end-user. Even for a developer with the knowledge I'd think it is fair to say it is not quite trivial. The way it is distributed a developer has to go through the source code, make some changes, and compile, before the device can be used outside of the FCC regulations. Don't quote me on that... although I believe this is how things are. I have not done it myself. Only read about it (year(s)? ago when this was all going down).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card [for a Thinkpad]?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-01-09 12:29 AM, m...@lavabit.com a écrit : I need to replace this card: http://i.imgur.com/QlFdw.jpg for an IBM Lenovo ThinkPad T42 2374-Y1Z laptop. I don't think it is compatible. Do you have the system at hand? It would be most useful if you could post its information (or even update h-node.org). I recently got an X230 and went through the same process to learn about the DRM implemented by Lenovo on their systems. The Thinkwiki page referenced at the LibrePlanet page mentioned in this thread has extensive information on that: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_unauthorized_MiniPCI_network_card If you search through that page, it seems it may be possible to remove the whitelisting restriction by hacking your BIOS (other methods are listed on that page too). Your model isn't specifically mentioned, though. In order to make a request for a modified BIOS, you may read this: http://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-VERY-IMPORTANT-Bios-whitelist-removal-requests It also seems the T61 model mentioned by someone else is on that list. Every thinkpad model has a page at Thinkwiki.org. If you scroll down yours, you will see other issues/tips for your specific model. The MiniPCI DRM problems page was not linked, I've since fixed that: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T42 BTW the USB adapter sold at http://libre.thinkpenguin.com is always good to have in hand, not only for these cases. It's helped me in many other occasions testing and installing new systems too :) Cheers, Fabian - -- Fabián Rodríguez http://trisquel.magicfab.ca -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlDtiVoACgkQfUcTXFrypNWiNwCePfmyLPc+wsP0Ilw71945jItm QqwAoNyUvSALMpjw3L40fRSWggKqRLM9 =c7Jq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
With regards to the BIOS patching, I should firstly add that it is a potentially risky process and it might leave your laptop in a non-working state. This might just be a routine warning, as I don't know how often the process fails. Having said that, I did in fact patch my BIOS (IIRC: http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo/459591-t61-x61-sata-ii-1-5-gb-s-cap-willing-pay-solution-8.html#post6501443) but it was for the SATA speed and not for the whitelist, although it is the same patch. I have not tested whether an alternative wireless card works, so I cannot comment on that. As mentioned, having a USB wireless adapter is useful in any case. I had to run the patch, which is specific for the 60/61-series, in Windows. Luckily (!) I had Windows Vista on the laptop when I got it. The patch was the only thing I did with it before I installed Trisquel.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
I've bought the USB wireless adapter from Think Penguin. I'm in New York so it should be here soon. I will see about updating an entry to h-node.org. I have a handy URL address I could link here,too, about my system...instead of typing it all out. I'll just need to find it. Thank you for linking the information about the BIOS. And the summary information on the DRM, lembas. I'm interested in altering this at any expense to obtain a further conversion, away from copyrights. And as long as it's environmentally conscious. Very helpful community!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
Actually, It's FCC regulations that forced IBM to Whitelist their Wireless Cards. I have a possible solution, but it involves using non-free utility once and then you can remove it once the job is done. (well, I only know of non-free utils for this, there might be free ones that I'm not aware of) Anyway, it involves hacking your Bios, my friend bought a Thinkpad T420s for his networking class and his networking card and it didn't work with certain protocols with GNU/Linux. so he bought the best wireless card he could find and it didn't work because of the whitelist, so he hacked his bios and now he uses whatever he wants. However flashing a modified bios could brick your laptop and the method I know of involves using non-free software, but if I was sure it would work, I would recommend it because your bios isn't free anyway and I would like to know if anybody here actually uses coreboot. Out of convenience and and paranoia that the process could eff up your laptop because something went wrong, I recommend the USB adapter.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
While this was initially the explanation given they have since flip flopped. The flip flop occurred because the FCC explicitly said there was no such requirement. Everything suggests a financial motive. I also want to point out that while IBM/Lenovo may have been the first company to implement this they are not the only company implementing a white list. I can confirm these restrictions are in place on at least some HP, Lenovo, IBM, Dell, and Toshiba notebooks. At this time I don't believe there to be any other manufacturers implementing such restrictions on the installable PCI/PCIe cards.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
Actually, It's FCC regulations that forced IBM to Whitelist their Wireless Cards. The FCC is a sucker for big business and proprietary software. This link is an interesting read BTW (from someone who knows FCC regulation): http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2008-September/010155.html I recommend the USB adapter. +1, that seems like the better way to go.
[Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
I need to replace this card: http://i.imgur.com/QlFdw.jpg for an IBM Lenovo ThinkPad T42 2374-Y1Z laptop. I don't think it is compatible.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
Have you reported that card to www.h-node.org ? It would help. I think I found your laptop from h-node (http://h-node.org/notebooks/view/en/391/ThinkPad-T42-type-2374). It seems to have a different card which is reported as working. Maybe you could try to find one of those. You can also contact ThinkPenguin.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?
I bought this ThinkPad from an eBayer who got it from a government office. ...And I thought I was to get perks as it was from the state. :) I did see the different card on h-node.org. Thank you, ahj, lammi87, and malberts. I will buy from your link (as it also supports this Trisquel), malberts.
