Re: [Trisquel-users] orca Does not work in live cd

2018-05-22 Thread Mason Hock
When installing Trisquel, I find that if I begin installing from a live 
session, Orca does not always work. However, if when booting I install Trisquel 
directly by selecting "Install Trisquel" instead of "Try Trisquel without 
Installing" Orca is always enabled after installing.


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[Trisquel-users] orca Does not work in live cd

2018-05-22 Thread blade . vp2020

hi
I trying to install t8 in my pc

I write the ISO image in USB

After boot
orca Does not work
ok
I run it it my self.
but its stop Again



Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-10 Thread Mason Hock
> For now, there is a documentation page explaining how to uninstall Orca.
> 
> https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/disabling-orca-screen-reader

I meant to write how to *disable* Orca.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-10 Thread Mason Hock
I think it better have to have assistive technologies enabled by default than 
disabled, but this seems to be a very common question. I can think of a few 
possible solutions
- have a separate ISO with which assistive technologies are enabled by default 
during and after installation
- have an option in the graphical installer to disable assistive technologies
- have a pop-up on first log in to set accessibility options

For now, there is a documentation page explaining how to uninstall Orca.

https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/disabling-orca-screen-reader

I think it is better to disable Orca than to uninstall gnome-orca, because 
gnome-orca is a dependency of the trisquel metapackage. In fact, 
gnome-app-install will refuse to uninstall gnome-orca (and any other package 
that is a dependency of trisquel) unless the trisquel metapackage has been 
removed via Synaptic or a terminal.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-10 Thread trisquelwhare+trisquelinfo

> Turn it off at Startup applications, then reboot.

Aha! That did it, and is a much better solution than having to kill the  
process every time I reboot. Thanks for this!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-10 Thread enduzzer
>"Unfortunately, even with these options disabled (as shown in the attached  
screenshot), it still jabbered away to itself."


I have seen this happen. Orca is buggy.

Last time I installed T8 Orca misbehaved as usual. I couln't turn it off  
easily no matter what I did. Then I uninstalled it.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-09 Thread trisquelwhare+trisquelinfo
> You can stop and disable screen reader in the Universal Access page on  
Control Center,
> or just toggle it with 'alt+super+s'. You should also kill all the  
speech-dispatcher

> processes that orca launches.

Thanks Dave, that was what I needed, a "killall -9 speech-dispatcher"  
command. I couldn't find any such "Universal Access page" on the Control  
Centre in my Trisqel v8.0 instance, and "alt+super+s" didn't seem to do  
anything, but killing those speech-dispatcher processes really helped,  
thanks. Now I'm gonna go off and make a *.desktop file for that, so that I  
can kill it easily from the GUI. Thanks again for the help!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-09 Thread dahunt
You can stop and disable screen reader in the Universal Access page on  
Control Center, or just toggle it with 'alt+super+s'.  You should also kill  
all the speech-dispatcher processes that orca launches. When you mute  
speech-dispatcher, it's still running.  At any time, you can restart orca,  
then toggle it off when done.


HTH,


Dave  H.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-09 Thread trisquelwhare+trisquelinfo
> Isn't there a way to disable (rather than than mute) it from MATE's control  
center?


Funnily enough, that was the first thing I tried, even before muting Orca,  
when I first installed Trisquel v8.0 on my machine. Unfortunately, even with  
these options disabled (as shown in the attached screenshot), it still  
jabbered away to itself. That is why I muted it eventually, just to shut it  
up! 😜





[Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-09 Thread trisquelwhare+trisquelinfo
Hi all, does anybody know what is going on here? I muted the Orca screen  
reader from the outset, because I don't need it myself, but I didn't  
uninstall it, as I figured it would be good to be able to demonstrate that  
particular functionality when I show off my Trisquel v8.0 installation to  
others.


However, I have noticed my machine slowing down a lot, recently. When I  
checked htop, arranged by MEM% and sorted highest to lowest, the top memory  
hogs were all the Orca screen reader. I killed the processes for this  
session, and my RAM usage has gone way back down to acceptable levels.  
However, just killing the processes means, naturally, that the next time I  
reboot I will have the same problem. I still don't want to uninstall Orca if  
I can help it, but I would like to know how to prevent it from hogging all my  
RAM. Any ideas?




[Trisquel-users] Orca Walk-Through Podcast, Episode 7 is published

2015-11-12 Thread dahunt

This is a multipart episode.
7.1.  installing Mate into Belenos
https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/dahunt/m/episode-7-1-adding-mate-to-belenos/


7.2:  Suggested desktop settings.
https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/dahunt/m/episode-7-2-some-mate-setup-suggestions/





[Trisquel-users] orca Screen Reader on Sugar?

2015-06-10 Thread ka1cey
My friend has been tasked with making Sugar learning environment accessible,  
by means of the Orca screen reader, on a OLPC machine.  I tried running orca  
on Trisquel Sugar; There must be missing pieces; orca did not talk.  I'm not  
sure where to tell my friend to start but promised I'd ask for some ideas on  
here.  If you can help, please contact my friend, Brandon Werner, directly.   
am_d...@fastmail.com  or me on gnusocial:  davehunt@social.2mb.solutions



Thanks,


Dave





Re: [Trisquel-users] orca

2014-07-13 Thread D. A. H.
Orca starting When Trisquel starts is not a bug or problem; turn off or 
remove orca if you find it disruptive.





Re: [Trisquel-users] orca

2014-07-13 Thread adel . afzal
I started the Onboard on-screen-keyboard a few weeks ago.  I played with it  
for a little while, and then turned it off.  It still appears at the log-in  
screen.  It doesn't appear after I log in.


I don't mind that Onboard appears at the log-in screen.  But I don't think  
that it should appear at log-in after I turned it off.  Posting just in case  
it's related to Orca starting up at log-in.


Re: [Trisquel-users] orca

2014-07-13 Thread blade . vp2020

I stopped orca from accessibility settings from the "System Settings".
But when restart system
orca start



[Trisquel-users] orca

2014-07-13 Thread blade . vp2020

Welcome
 I have a problem
orca started When trisquel started






Re: [Trisquel-users] orca screen reader in installer

2014-06-05 Thread dhunt
Those who need orca cannot easily install it, nor can they use a live system  
without it.  To me, no orca is  a black screen.  Orca can be easily removed  
or deactivated.  This said, we may be able to build the production Trisquel 7  
without the automatic startup of orca on the live system, since gnome now has  
a universal toggle 'alt+super+s' to toggle the screen reader. As long as orca  
and its dependencies are installed, this should work.  Once a system is  
installed, and the user logs in, she can activate orca with the toggle, and  
it will automatically activate for subsequent logins by that user.  If we are  
to decide to eliminate the automatic orca startup on the live medium, I would  
ask that a sound be played, to indicate that the desktop is ready; The  
Trisquel 5.0 I18N edition had some music for this, and I found it helpful.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] orca screen reader in installer

2014-06-04 Thread legimet . calc
I'm sure the people who need it would disagree. Uninstalling for people who  
don't takes a few seconds. Accessibility is an important feature.


Re: [Trisquel-users] orca screen reader in installer

2014-06-04 Thread onpon4
Being blind on a system that you're not familiar with which doesn't help the  
blind probably makes using it for anything difficult, and that includes  
installing packages and installing the OS itself in the first place. Not  
being blind and closing Orca (you don't need to uninstall it) is a far more  
trivial task.


Re: [Trisquel-users] orca screen reader in installer

2014-06-04 Thread arielxgbarton
I do not know why there is Orca. Im sure more time is spent uninstalling it  
than people who need it would have to spend installing it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] orca screen reader in installer

2014-06-04 Thread webmaster
I didn't had that problem when installing Trisquel 6.0, but when I decided to  
install Trisquel 6.1, Orca suddenly appeared (both during the install and  
after). If you don't need Orca, then just uninstall it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] orca screen reader in installer

2014-06-04 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I believe Orca is activated if you leave the welcome screen alone right after  
booting for some time. (30 secs or so)


[Trisquel-users] orca screen reader in installer

2014-06-04 Thread cmhobbs
I'm not sure if  a new build was released or if I'm doing something dumb but  
I downloaded a fresh copy of the Trisquel desktop installer and it's plagued  
with Orca screen reader.  It shows up during the installer, on the login  
screen, and after logging in.


Is this user error or an issue with the installer?


[Trisquel-users] Orca Does Not Speak in Pidgin or Libreoffice Apps in 5.5 Beta dated 11-March

2012-03-11 Thread Dave Hunt

Hi,

I did a full install of the subject beta, and am trying to use the 
applications as provided in the disk image and repositories.  When I 
launch any of the libreoffice aplications, orca speaks while the app is 
loading.  Once the app's window has focus, orca is silent, until I 
either close the app or switch to another.  Same behavior in pidgin, 
though the sign-in notifications for pidgin are spoken, accompanied by 
the log-in event sound.  At first, I thought it had to do with my not 
having a '.purple' directory, so, I placed the one I had been using with 
Trisquel 5.0, where all works fine.


Should I build a later version of orca from sources?  Load the offending 
apps from some other repository?  Both?  Something else?




Thanks,



Dave