Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2018-03-24 Thread wrappy . trial258
I'm a bit concerned about the fact that all one can do to verify the download  
of Uruk is checking MD5/SHA256 sums.


Apparently, no GPG-signature or public key is offered.

Maybe Uruk developers can offer this in the future.

Nevertheless, I think I'm gonna give it a try - at least start a live session  
to get an impression.





Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2018-03-22 Thread strypey

I stand corrected. Thanks for the detailed response :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2018-03-21 Thread lcerf
I have both a SATA 3 HDD and a M.2 SSD in my laptop.  Benchmarking them with  
'hdparm -t' respectively gives 0.142 GB/s and 0.430 GB/s of transfer rates.   
Benchmarking my DDR4 RAM with memtest86+ gives 21.053.


So the RAM is about 150 faster than my HDD but still about 50 times faster  
than my SSD: although my swap is on the SSD, the system still feels  
unbearably slow if it swaps.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2018-03-21 Thread strypey

Magic Banana:
>> No program is killed but the system becomes unbearably slow (because the  
disk is about 100 times slower than the RAM). 


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2018-03-18 Thread hd-scania
Pardon, but using swaps makes my machine feeling less heats for using less  
RAM than not using swaps. I’ve also tried to hiebrnate my system and backed  
to my EFI manager, systems under swaps are able to recover session unless  
reboot is run manually, system w/o swaps enter a selected system using a  
fresh session.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2018-03-17 Thread hd-scania
Just clarifying and finalizing, systems run on hard drives dnt matter with  
how much swaps or without, but systems run on RAM will be happy to be under  
more swaps, right?


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2018-03-16 Thread hd-scania
Anyway I have at least 3.72GiB of hardware memories, i.e. RAMs, and not every  
my systems are equipped with swap but just work well w/o a need of swaps.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-19 Thread strypey
Can I upgrade from an Uruk 2.0 beta to the final release, or do I need to  
reinstall from scratch?


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-15 Thread Caleb Herbert
I'd like a copy of install-guix.sh.  I hate following the Guix manual
every time I install Trisquel.



Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-14 Thread sigdpsy

install-guix.sh (or whatever it was called) did not work.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-12 Thread niyaschirayakuth

Okey, cool. Thanks for the reply


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-12 Thread hayder
>The Uruk Welcome App did n't start on live system login. Later I found it on  
menu. Is it configured to start after installation only?

Yes

>How about replacing Mint App Menu (I forgot name for that menu) with Whisker  
Menu developed by Solus? Is there any legal or free software policy issue?


This menu depends on newer packages than in Uruk or Trisquel repositorys,  
because Uruk 2.0 based on Trisquel 8.0, That's mean Ubuntu 16.04, and this  
menu running on ubuntu 17.10 or later.





Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-11 Thread niyaschirayakuth
I tried the live image of Uruk 2.0. It is much better comparing to earlier  
release. Overall appearance looks much promising.


Some observations/suggestions/comments
- The Uruk Welcome App did n't start on live system login. Later I found it  
on menu. Is it configured to start after installation only?
- It is nice to see that, Uruk includes VLC media player by default. Is it  
100% libre application? If so, why Trisquel is not including it as a  
universal media player?
- How about replacing Mint App Menu (I forgot name for that menu) with  
Whisker Menu developed by Solus? Is there any legal or free software policy  
issue?


Anyway, I had a nice time while exploring Uruk. The team (or just a person?  
I'm not sure) has done a great work. Even when giants like Fedora fails to do  
proper QA, Uruk is doing better.


While exploring live image, I have capture some screenshots and published it  
here. Please have a look.


http://www.distroscreens.com/2017/12/uruk-gnulinux-20-lugalbanda-screenshots.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-11 Thread gnugaz77

Riba Linux has just released an overview video of Uruk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vikeRHMEJM 


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-10 Thread elias . howell
I tried this out on an old elitebook I had lying around. Works great. The  
default desktop environment is nice, but I installed i3 instead. Working  
great so far.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-07 Thread dahunt
Thanks fot the direction to the htc firmware packge; I'll download it and  
keep it handy.  The machine with UEFY fcn't seem to install anyting  
Trisquel-- 7 won't even boot, and 8/Uruk graphical installer gets stuck.  My  
old netbook runs everything Trisquelish perfectly.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-06 Thread masonhock
I used Startup Disk Creator. DD seems to work better, but I wanted to see if  
SDC worked as well, which it does.


With Trisquel 7, Trisquel 8, and Uruk, my ThinkPad X60 has had trouble making  
it through the installation without freezing when I use the graphical  
installer. It may have something to do with overheating, as the fan is always  
on high when it happens. Trisquel has a text installer that works much  
better. However, it only took a few tries to make it through the Uruk  
installation. I didn't do anything differently the last time. My machine  
doesn't have UEFI, so I don't know if that would make a difference.


Trisquel 8 doesn't have firmware-ath9k-htc packaged yet, so Uruk doesn't  
either. You can build it or install via the deb file from  
https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-ath9k-htc


If you don't have access to ethernet, you could download the source or deb  
file on another computer and transfer it over.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-06 Thread dahunt

Glad to hear the quick review; here's my first impression:

I started the live system, made using the DD command and a USB drive. Screen  
reader and music cme up as expected; this is what I wanted.  Mate desktop,  
menus, and control center work nicely. My Think Penguin USB wifi adaptor is  
not recognized, and I cannot connect, yet, lsusb shows it to be present. I  
have not yet tried a wired connection. Your observation that installation  
took many attempts gives me pause re: installing onto a machine having UEFI.   
What did you do, in the final attempt, that resulted in a working system?  


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-06 Thread masonhock
I've had a chance to try some of the features that are supposed to be  
different from Trisquel.


(1) mate configuration and control center
The default mate configuration is indeed better than Trisquel's. WIN launches  
a menu with items grouped into "system," "places," and "applications", plus a  
search bar that can launch applications. Uruk Control Center looks nice and  
is intuitive.


(2) package manager simulator
Runningsudo pacman -S icecatinstalled IceCat as expected, so that feature  
works, although I don't see a use for it.


(3) installing from source
Tested with this.u-src youtube-viewer-3.3.1.tar.gzgets stuck atchmod: cannot  
access 'configure': No such file or directory

sudo: ./configure: command not found
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target 'install'.  Stop.
/usr/bin/u-src: 14: cd: can't cd to pwd
rm: cannot remove 'youtube-viewer-3.3.1': No such file or directory


(4) guix installer
Did not work, as described in my previous comment.

(5) being finished
I'm not sure how Uruk 2 can be considered out of beta, or even out of alpha,  
when it has all of the same missing and broken packages as Trisquel 8 alpha.




Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-05 Thread masonhock
Installation took multiple tries (as has Trisquel's graphical installer on my  
machine. A text installer like Trisquel has would be great.) but worked in  
the end. The screen reader was enabled by default as in Flidas, but was  
easily removed from startup applications. During # ~/Desktop/Guix-install.sh  
I got


mv: invalid option -- 'r'
Try 'mv --help' for more information.
cp: cannot stat '/root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service':  
No such file or directory

Failed to start guix-daemon.service: Unit guix-daemon.service not found.

after which $ guix package -i hello givesbash: guix: command not foundso that  
script did not successfully install GUIX.


Apart from that everything looks great so far.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-05 Thread masonhock
But the CIA has confirmed that Uruk's repository contains Weapons of Mass  
Destruction(tm)! MSNBC told me!


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-05 Thread Cassandra of Troy
:'(

It's a great distro even without the literary and historical references:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugalbanda

and the English Language support is superb.



Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-05 Thread jadedml
What? No. Just because Ali lives in Iraq doesn't mean his OS is malicious or  
anything like that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-05 Thread dahunt
I would not worry about the fact that the authors of Uruk from Iraq.  This  
being a fully-free system, I suppose you could audit the sources for  
insecurities or mallice.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-05 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 05/12/17 20:11, wrote:
> Should I be worried about using an operating system from Iraq?  My mom
> says not to install it.

 Haha!, next version will be named Akkad.  :'-D

-- 
Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es



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Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-05 Thread Caleb Herbert
Should I be worried about using an operating system from Iraq?  My mom
says not to install it.


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[Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2017-12-05 Thread blade . vp2020

if we Solved a lot of problems,
if we coding for Thousand hours,
 if we build good free Distro,
 There's some much we can free.
 . . . . These were just wishes and dreams For small people in this great  
universe

This was the start,
 But we stop dreaming and wishing. and start coding,
 To achieve our dreams ,
 The ideas started flowing, Like the waters of the river.
we made uruk project,
 and build Uruk GNU/Linux 1.0,
 It was unuxpectable big success .
Been a long time for this event,
We grew up, and the project grew up with us.
At this time we worked a lot, and we made great changes.
The big change came today,
 yes today,
 it's Uruk GNU/Linux code name 2.0 "lugalbanda" ,
 We use "lugalbanda" as a code name for this release,
 lugalbanda is a character found in Sumerian mythology and literature in  
ancient Iraqi history .

it's came with many changes like :
1- Build new repository for Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0
2- linux-libre 4.9.66 lts
3- gcc 7
4- mate 1.12.1
5- Abrowser 57
6- New welcome screen
7- replace MDM with LightDM as a default DM
8- New control center
9- Guix Installer
10- New customization with new themes,cursor and wallpapers.
11- Came with many useful apps as default like:
thunderbird, deluge, ffmulticonverter, vlc, libreoffice, rose crypt, uruk  
cleaner, AIA, diskman indicator, lightdm setting, gimp, upms, . . . and more.

download it:
https://urukproject.org/dist/index.html
if you have any Bug or Issues:
https://urukproject.org//bt/login_page.php
if you have any suggestions or missing packages, you can send it via mailing  
list.


have fun and be free
ali miracle


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-11-06 Thread strypey
OK, so I'm confused. I just downloaded a fresh copy of beta2 from  
SourceForge, checked the SHA256, and made a USB installer (see:  
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/problems-creating-usb-installed-using-trisquel-7).  
I installed it and got what appeared to be a Mate desktop. This was wierd,  
because last time I installed what I thought was beta2, it had a Pantheon  
desktop. Maybe what I actually installed was the alpha or beta1?


Anyway, the new install runs quite well, although I recently upgraded from  
1GB RAM to 2GB, so I would expect that. None of the poor performance I had  
last time. This seems to be sharing a lot of work with Trisquel 8 (Flidas),  
which is also going to have a Mate desktop, yes? What will be the difference  
between the final Uruk 2.0 and the final Trisquel 8?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-30 Thread hd-scania
My laptop is also mid-low-ended, i3-2367 amd64 and 3.72GiB RAM, and I am a  
keen LXQt, Deepin, Liri user, to save more RAM you also need 16GiB swap  
partitions at least.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-30 Thread hd-scania

Would it be good to you if you help Uruk to port an OpenRC edition for them?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-30 Thread greatgnu
I rarely, very rarely use 1 full gb of RAM. I am not joking. One thing is  
also true: I don't go crazy about multitasking..

Xfce or LXDE is your answer..


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-29 Thread strypey
I put this feedback on the wrong thread, so I'm reporting it on the thread  
about Uruk-2.0-beta-2 for completeleness. Please feel free to ignore this.

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/uruk-gnulinux-20-alpha

I like the look and feel of Uruk 2.0-beta-2, and I look forward to the final  
release, but I can't keep using it on my Aspire One (click on my name to see  
the full specs). Even with the new SSD drive, the performance is just too  
patchy. If I have more than one browser tab open, I immediately start to have  
problems, including typing text and nothing happens, or a random selection of  
the letters I typed appear. Maybe 1GB RAM is just not enough for Uruk 2.0,  
but ideally a distro like this would run on any box that can run XP, which is  
what the Aspire One came with when I bought it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-29 Thread lilos1

Is it System D distro if is system D no Thx!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-29 Thread strypey

"1GB RAM is not really comfortable"

True, and I'm looking at buying a RAM upgrade, or just using this netbook as  
a CLI-only system. But it's worth pointing out that Trisquel 7 (with the  
default DE) still gave me significantly better performance than the Uruk beta  
I tried. Even running Debian live off a USB gave me better performance. I  
figure this is something the developers might want to know, so thanks for the  
contact info :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-28 Thread strypey
I like the look and feel of Uruk 2.0-beta-2, and I look forward to the final  
release, but I can't keep using it on my Aspire One. Even with the new SSD  
drive, the performance is just too patchy. If I have more than one browser  
tab open, I immediately start to have problems, including typing text and  
nothing happens, or a random selection of the letters I typed appear. Maybe  
1GB RAM is just not enough for Uruk 2.0, but ideally a distro like this would  
run on any box that can run XP, which is what the Aspire One came with when I  
bought it.


BTW What's the best way to give feedback directly to the Uruk developers?


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-18 Thread hd-scania
Swap partitions either in LVM or standard modes are killing the installation.  
You may want to remove requirements of existing swaps.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-18 Thread strypey
Thanks for the clarification. Sorry, now that I double-check, the .ISO I  
restored to USB stick for testing was Uruk-2.0-beta-2. Doing a test install  
now.


BTW Anyone know why I now seem to have a phantom XFS partition, showing up in  
GParted (under Uruk 2.2 live from a USB), about the size of my whole hard  
drive, while the normal / and /swap partitions in ext4 seem to use up the  
actual disk?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-15 Thread strypey
As mentioned in a thread about waiting for Trisquel 8, I just put a new SSD  
disk in my old Aspire One, and I'm trying Uruk 2.0 alpha as a live disk.  
Based on what I've read here, and my experiences using Cinammon and Mate with  
Mint, I'm definitely going to try an install to the new drive.


One question; what does the Guix-install.sh do? Do I need to run it, and if  
so, at what stage of the install? If there is any reference to this on the  
project website I can't see it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-10-15 Thread strypey
There are both 32-bit and 64-bit versions available to download on the  
project page.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-10 Thread sigdpsy

Yes.



Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-10 Thread megver83

Shutdown from CLI

# power off


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-10 Thread megver83
Are you still using Trisquel's packages, or you have taken your way  
independently already?


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-08 Thread sigdpsy
Canon Lide 120 was working good using Simple Scan software after install  
libsane-backends in Uruk 64 bit (beta1). But In 32 bit Uruk (beta2) it is not  
working correctly. It is working with gimp or xsane. But not working with  
Simple Scan, gscan2pdf and Skanlite. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-06 Thread sigdpsy
How can solve the problem. I shutdown closing all program. I don't understand  
of this problem. please help!


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-05 Thread sigdpsy

With Uruk2.0_i686


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-05 Thread sigdpsy
I have downloaded uruk 2.0 (Beta 2)- 32 bit, hope that it will use less ram  
memory than Uruk 2.0_64 (beta 1). I am frustrated. Because they uses same  
usage of memory.

I knew that 32 bit OS uses less ram space than 64 bit.
--
In normal mode
Uruk 2.0_64 (beta 1) uses > 575mb
Uruk 2.0_i686 (beta 2) uses > > 545mb
---
But in previous
Uruk 1.0_64 uses > 450mb
Uruk 1.0_i686 uses > 300mb
---
I was happy with Uruk 1.0. But It is not up-to-date now.

Uruk 2.0 up-to-date. But it is suitable for >4gb ram. (my ram= 2gb) 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-10-04 Thread sigdpsy
So, Trisquel 8.0 or Uruk2.0 is not complete yet. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-04 Thread sigdpsy
But plank has not application menu like cairo dock? I need an application  
menu for plank.


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-10-04 Thread greatgnu

http://wiki.go-docky.com/?title=Plank:Introduction

try plank


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-10-04 Thread intheforest

>you mentioned having access to a pretty fast and powerful machine.

YES. I meant files sent via internet. I just didn't have enough patience..


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-10-03 Thread sigdpsy

mision@vision:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 gnome : Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.14+3ubuntu1) but it is not going to be  
installed

 Depends: alacarte (>= 3.11) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

What I can I do?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-10-03 Thread sigdpsy

mision@vision:~$ sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 cairo-dock : Depends: cairo-dock-plug-ins (>= 3.4.1) but it is not going to  
be installed
  Depends: cairo-dock-plug-ins-dbus-interface-python (>= 3.4.1)  
but it is not going to be installed

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

It alos not installed.
I am now using Uruk 2.0 (Beta 1) 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-10-01 Thread i_write_words
Yea, that's why I miss virtualizing so much. It really is best to wait for  
the stable release when you need to get your work done. My gamer kid enjoys  
bleeding edge sometimes, but I stick to my Trisquel 7 on at least one  
machine.


You might be able to virtualize the 32 bit image. IIRC, you mentioned having  
access to a pretty fast and powerful machine.


But I digress.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-10-01 Thread intheforest
Heh 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-10-01 Thread intheforest
hmm... It turned out that it's quit risky.. Installation of files takes too  
long.. Maybe I should update system after installation.. Anyway he is happy  
with his 'Free side of the force' Trisquel ;) I will do some testing and if  
everything is fine, I will dual boot it with Uruk. If not, we will wait for  
stable release. *** One of the slides has a mistake.. It says that u-rpmi  
command is to  build software from source and u-src is to install rpm packs..  
 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-30 Thread i_write_words

He's going to love it.

Thanks for the screenshot, MD. SHAHIDUL ISLAM. I'm going to sound like a  
hypocrite for listing my reasons for preferring 32 bit, since I miss  
virtualizing and am whining about needing DVDs and cheap used hard drives to  
check out 2.0.


32 bit machines are more readily available used and at prices that lower  
income people can afford. They are also more secure, since they do not have  
the backdoors that we know Intel has put on since 2008ish (Intel Management  
Engine) and AMD also has used for about the same time.


A 32 bit system will run on a 64 bit capable machine, but a 64 bit system  
will not even boot a 32 bit machine into command line. The ecological  
consequences of disposing of perfectly usable 32 bit machines affects all of  
us.


hth and /soapbox /ot and thank you, Hayder and Ali, for continued 32 bit  
support in Uruk.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-30 Thread intheforest
Just downloaded one for x64.. Gonna install it on my little brother's  
computer.. He is so curious.. :))


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-26 Thread dahunt
Am running Beta 2 on, perhaps, an under-powered machine.  Thereare some  
inconveniences, but The developers seem to have hit the targets mentioned in  
their announcement of Beta 2.   


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-26 Thread sknc1982

Hello,

I have been using Linux for a number of years now, but only just started my  
journey on the FSF path.


It is good to see a new distribution that is about freedom, they are few and  
far between.


Best of luck. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-25 Thread hayder

that's right :)
xserver-xorg version is 1:7.7
xserver-xorg-core version is 2:1.18.4


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-25 Thread icarolongo

It is X.Org Server 1.18.[1] Released in 9 November 2015.[2]
The version 1.7 is from 2009. Trisquel 7 has the version 1.15.

[1]  
https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial=any=names=xserver

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.Org_Server#Releases


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-25 Thread pablo96es

well done !
It's all about freedom!
;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-25 Thread dahunt
I'll try this soon; thanks, Uruk Team!  Glad to see you've fixed the 'talking  
login' issue; want a look at the Uruk Control Center.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-25 Thread hayder

4.9 lts and 1.7


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-25 Thread greatgnu

\o/


Re: [Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-25 Thread mjmhogg5

Hi alimiracle !

Thanks for all your hard work.

I would like to know which kernel and xorg version uruk-beta2 has ?

Is it 4.4 and 1.18 ?

Thanks again !


[Trisquel-users] uruk gnu/linux 2.0 beta-2

2017-09-25 Thread blade . vp2020
It was at times a long, difficult road. But we glad it was long and  
difficult, because if we hadn’t gone through hell to get there, the lesson  
might not have been as clear.

Hello
my name is ali and i'm going to tell you a new chapter from uruk gnu / linux  
story:
It has been said throughout the ages, that there can be no victory, without  
sacrifice.


after we punished from free software lords we returned to holly mate DE
hoping that punishment will removed from our system.
 but we faced some new problems.
we try a lot of Lullabys
like free software song
But nothing has changed


so we give MDM as a liability to free software lord to blase our system
in the end the system Become works well
today in the name of freedom
 we release a new iso (beta-2) for uruk gnu / linux:
changelogs:
1. replacing MDM with LightDM with new login customization
2. Update all packages with the latest versions in repository
3- fixing linux-libre key problem
4- fixing freedom issue in mate menu
5. replacing mate control center with uruk control center (written from  
scratch)

6. intgrate orca with login session window
7. fixing installer icon issue
8. adding somw new packages
with more things you will discover it.

(thanks to every one sending a feedback especialy mangy dog and dave hunt)

Download 32 bit and 64 bit

https://sourceforge.net/projects/urukos/files/2.0/Beta2/

your time is come, you will face a lot of bugs and you must tell us about it
have fun and be free
ali miracle


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-18 Thread elr

i3 It is not recommended for new people in GNU/Linux(-libre).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-06 Thread pinmaritim
Bravo to the Uruk Team, despite the issues you faced you have done a great  
job !

Thanks ;-)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-06 Thread shiretoko
Since I tweaked i3 and mastered its usage, I dont want anything else anymore.  
It's the same with vim.
At first you might think "wtf, who would ever want to use that?" but then you  
realize that there is nothing better out there.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-05 Thread sigdpsy
I am with uruk 2.0. I happy with it. But it tooks more ram space than uruk  
1.0. my ram = 2 gb. I always prefer 64 bit. Any benefit of 32 bit Os than 64  
bit?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread Libremind
Il giorno Mon,  4 Sep 2017 02:33:25 +0200 (CEST)
jorgesu...@freakspot.net ha scritto:

> When I execute sudo apt-get update I get the following errors or
> warnings:
> 
> W: http://packages.urukproject.org/dists/lugalbanda/InRelease:
> Signature by key F094C518D6F659B7783F25866B3C79D5138BA0FE uses weak
> digest algorithm (SHA1)
This error is caused by weak digest algorithm (SHA1) SHA256 is recommended, 
therefore you should report this to uruk developers.

> W: GPG error: http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh
> freesh InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified
> because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9D0DB31B545A3198
You should import the repo public key:

Download the public key from the website
 wget https://jxself.org/gpg.inc

Verify the fingerprints of the key
 gpg --with-fingerprints gpg.inc

Make sure that you see:
 Key fingerprint = F611 A908 FFA1 65C6 9958 4ED4 9D0D B31B 545A 3198 
 
Then add the key and delete the gpg.inc file
 sudo apt-key add gpg.inc && rm gpg.inc

Try to update and see if it's resolved
 sudo apt update

For more info check the website https://jxself.org/linux-libre/

> W: The repository
> 'http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh freesh
> InRelease' is not signed. N: Data from such a repository can't be
> authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> 



Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread jorgesumle

When I execute sudo apt-get update I get the following errors or warnings:

W: http://packages.urukproject.org/dists/lugalbanda/InRelease: Signature by  
key F094C518D6F659B7783F25866B3C79D5138BA0FE uses weak digest algorithm  
(SHA1)
W: GPG error: http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh freesh  
InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public  
key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9D0DB31B545A3198
W: The repository 'http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh freesh  
InRelease' is not signed.
N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore  
potentially dangerous to use.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration  
details.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread greatgnu

>I like LXDE or XFCE4. Openbox it is not bad stuff, but I really hate i3.

wow, are you me? :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread mappack

FreeSlack 64 works fine for me.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread blade . vp2020

its try to Looking for the appropriate method to build the app
if it find it
Will be used that way.
For example
Some programs
build useing
chmod +x configure
./configure
make
yes you can use it in other distributions



Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread shiretoko
I saw that you have custom tools like u-src for automated building from  
source. How does the program work? Can people with other distributions use it  
as well?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-02 Thread blade . vp2020

try guix sd
its dont use systemd



Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-02 Thread vitacell
Right now I have a netbook asus 900ha which is 32 bits, I installed Devuan,  
and it has a bit outdated packages, but works great. I love Arch, but distros  
based on Arch without systemd aren't so stable, and it is only x86_64. Arch  
based distros without systemd need a lot of work. Maybe Void is great  
consideration, but I don't know what is their philosophy.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-02 Thread .
Yes.

 Uruk is downstream from Trisquel Flidas which is downstream from Ubuntu
Xenial Xeres which is downstream from Debian Jessie so it uses systemd.

If you are looking for systemd-free alternatives, you might consider
devuan, freeslack (no 32 bit support, but 64 bit looks good), and/or
hyperbola[1].

[1]https://trisquel.info/en/forum/i-found-new-libre-distro-you-all-might-be-interested


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-02 Thread vitacell

I like LXDE or XFCE4. Does Uruk come with systemd?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-01 Thread i_write_words
I can try to make a private torrent for you if it gets too frustrating, but I  
have absolutely no experience or any language other than English much beyond  
the "Where is the restroom?" level so that might be even worse.


Lots of bandwidth and best wishes, though.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-01 Thread sigdpsy
I am trying to download. But after 90% that crashing. Net speed slow in  
Bangladesh. Now I am trying again. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-01 Thread .
That was what impressed me about the alpha. I don't know what I was
expecting, but I wound up giving my DVD to the daughter who had never
used Gnu/Linux instead of the daughter who was getting "nice fresh .isos
just like mama used to burn!" in her care package.

The final LTS release is seriously going to be my go-to recommendation
for new people if you guys keep this up. ;)

This is a very special project. It's been an honour to "know" Ali
through the Trisquel project and then to see Uruk come to fruition.

That you kids would choose to use the calms in the storm in this manner
restores my own faith that human nature is not intrinsically evil and
that there is hope that life could still turn out to be something beautiful.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-01 Thread handala
If I ever have to use Windows I'll know who I can confess my sins to. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-01 Thread handala
Have to give congratulations: as an "end user" and novice GNU/linux user,  I  
ran Uruk from bootdisk and was very impressed.  Very clean, user friendly.   
It actually ran better faster than Trsiquel on this old HP laptop I'm using.


Great job guys.

- Zem


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-08-31 Thread dahunt
I'm running the beta on my little netbook; it looks nearly finished.  Not  
sure whether I can install onto my Thinkpad that has uefi; Trisquel won't  
boot on the thing.  Interested in learning more about this guix package  
system the include in addition to the apt defaults.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-08-31 Thread sigdpsy
I waiting for final release. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-08-31 Thread greatgnu

Congratulations, hayder and alimiracle!

Ignucius the Saint blesses your computers, long may they run!






Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-08-31 Thread dahunt
Downloading the beta, now, and will have more to say avter I've had a look at  
it.  Glad you've decided to return to Mate de; accessibility in Cinnamon is  
not ready.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-08-30 Thread eloi . igor
I personally struggle with the same issue. Doesn't matter how much I run,  
eventually I end up going back to mate. It works flawlessly. Other DE's makes  
me more productive, but mate is just too good. Maybe one day it will be more  
customizable, so one can work without the two bars easily... Until so, the  
struggle may persist, at least for myself.


I am happy with Uruk's release. Congrats. I wish you success. Never forsake  
your project. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-08-30 Thread i_write_words
I'd have said flux or openbox instead of i3wm, but that's just because I'm  
old. :)


Uruk is truly amazing and it's good to see you posting here. Mate is just  
fine. I enjoyed checking out the alpha on DVD and USB stick and look forward  
to seeing how far the beta has come as soon as I can.


Well done!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-08-30 Thread happy_gnu
The best DE is no DE, I suggest you move to i3wm :) loool nah just kidding  
guys, congratulations for your excellent work. Uruk is awesome.





[Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-08-30 Thread cteehayder
In any war or big problems, there are calms between storms. There will be  
days when we lose faith. Days when our apps, DE, and codes turn against us.  
But the day will never come that we forsake this project and his community.

hello, my name is Hayder Majid and i'm going to tell you story:
when was begin to working on uruk 2.0 we decided to moving to another DE,so  
we choose cinnamon DE to make it as the default DE, but unexpected things is  
happened , because cinnamon is lacked for a lot of accessibility features, so  
we moved to gnome DE, but as usual,  gnome has a lot of bugs and crashes  
windows (the main feature of gnome shell ) ,so we thing it's like the free  
software lords punished us for leaving mate DE, because it's never  
disappointed us in version 1.0, so we returned to our holy DE  , with more  
customization and a lot of features to avoid similarity with trisquel 8.0 ,  
and hoping that punishment will be removed.



today we happy to release uruk 2.0 "lugalbanda" (beta-1) with many features

-based on core trisquel 8.0 "flidas"
-mate DE 1.12
-linux-libre-lts 4.9
-gcc-7
-possibility for installing GuixSD package manager
-possibility for installing rpm packages and installing programs from source  
using one command
-new customization ( login screen , themes, cursor, background, installer  
slideshow ...)

-uruk welcome screen
-uruk software center ( uruk GNU/Linux version of Lubuntu software center)
-compatible with accessibility
-fixing a lot of bugs

with more things you will discover it.

your time is come, you will face a lot bugs and you must tell us about it

you can download it from here(32 and 64 bit):
https://sourceforge.net/projects/urukos/files/2.0/Beta1/



Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-08-28 Thread sigdpsy

But It is not 64 bit.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-07-27 Thread noordinaryspider
Yea, but my point was that even if you didn't know anything about Ali and  
were just distro hopping, you'd still love Uruk because it is just plain a  
good 100% libre distro.


I was going to print that article out for my daughter but after booting into  
the DVD to make sure it worked, I decided that it wasOh look, a pretty  
butterfly. ;)


Ali really is that awesome. It's pretty much impossible NOT to underestimate  
that youngster.  ;)





Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-07-27 Thread noordinaryspider

Everybody is so touchy these days (including my illustrious self), lol.

By apolitical, I meant that Uruk would not be dismissed as a curiosity or be  
offensive to any brand new free software user, regardless of their  
nationality or political beliefs.


As far as libre politics, it is downstream from Ubuntu 16.04 and uses the  
same init system. It is 100% Libre. I would trust the developers to keep it  
that way. It is way too new to be certified by the FSF already, but that  
would not bother me. I was trying to communicate my own trust in these  
developers to someone who did not know them.


I also noticed that it seemed to load faster than the alpha release of  
Belenos that I burned the same day, right before the current beta release  
became available. It could have been a bad DVD or any number of things that  
has nothing to do with the actual .iso, but since I was giving several  
different live DVDs to a person who would probably be running live for quite  
awhile rather than installing right away, that was also a plus to me.


The desktop was not vanilla Mate, but was customized for ease of use in such  
a way that it would be helpful to anyone with vision issues, but also anyone  
unfamiliar with standard Gnu/Linux desktop environments.


My first impression was extremely positive. I look forward to having a second  
impression and being able to say more. I was using the 32 bit .iso on my most  
powerful 64 bit capable laptop and did not have time to test it on my older  
hardware. I look forward to doing so in the future.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-07-26 Thread handala
I looked at the website but I didn't find much info.  I'm sort of getting the  
vibe that Uruk is a light weight (less resources)  version of Trisquel, with  
a Mate desktop environment and a couple of tools that simplify adding  
applications, etc for the new user.


Is that about right?

Also, when you say "political" Heather, what do  you mean?  Libre politics,  
or political politics? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-07-26 Thread noordinaryspider
It has Guix installed by default, for one thing, and all sorts of handy dandy  
tools for newbies who have never used Gnu/Linux before but are intelligent  
enough to learn with a bit of hand holding and learn more on their own once  
they get a peek at what all they fuss was about and why their mommies are so  
stubborn about joining the 21st century and refusing to buy a smartphone like  
everybody else's mommy has.


My live DVD is already in a box on it's way to my child, so this is just what  
I remember and why the first thing I wanted to do was post my review from it  
before even trying it any of my other hardware.


It just wasn't at all what I expected. It was perfect for my target audience  
of a well educated intelligent person who has taken a lot of crap IT classes  
and thinks she knows more than she actually does. I know one of the Uruk  
developers from way back and he speaks my kid's language better than I do.  
They're roughly the same age so that's hardly surprising, in spite of their  
cultural differences.


I expected the target audience to be a native Arabic speaker who didn't have  
much bandwidth and was getting a bit annoyed with the entire concept of the  
English language.


I couldn't have been more wrong.

Uruk is still in Alpha, but I feel that Uruk's target user might be slightly  
different than Trisquel's target user, but language and politics have nothing  
to do with those differences at all. I've been wrong before, lol, but this  
fork benefits us all, imnsho.


I don't have a spare hard drive atm; I'll come back when I do and be able to  
go into more depth then. I'd love to see my (preteen) minor child take this  
one for a test drive and see what happens, but I, being poor, have only my  
dreams as William Butler Yeats would say.


Just a not exactly unbiased review. Short version is: I like it. Keep up the  
good work, Uruk peeps!




Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Alpha)

2017-07-26 Thread handala

What is the benefit of using this disto?  How does it differ from Trisquel?

Thanks!




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