Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-05 Thread gustavo_cm
I don't know, but perhaps h-node has information on this:  
http://h-node.org/printers/catalogue/en -- although I have not found any  
"ink/laser" filter in that page.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-05 Thread ashok . biollay

Thank you for your answer. I found these laser printers :

- 01 : Brother Industries, Ltd DCP-7020 (B-partial compatibility),
- 02 : Lexmark E332n (A-Full compatibility),
- 03 : Lexmark E260d (A-Full compatibility),
- 04 : Canon imageRUNNER 2530i (B-partial compatibility),
- 05 : HP LaserJet P2015 (B-partial compatibility),
- 06 : SAMSUNG SCX-4200 (A-Full compatibility),
- 07 : Samsung ML-2510 Series (B-partial compatibility),
- 08 : Samsung CLP-320 Series (B-partial compatibility),
- 09 : HP LaserJet 1100 (A-Full compatibility),
- 10 : ML-2010P Mono Laser Printer (A-Full compatibility),
- 11 : Samsung ML-1640 (A-Full compatibility),
- 12 : Lexmark E120 (A-Full compatibility).

But I don't find them in List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking  
Dots. Difficult to know whether they track you or not. Or is there a way to  
learn which ones don't track you ?


[Why must they install tracking dots ?"]


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-05 Thread gustavo_cm

[Why must they install tracking dots ?"]

Here: https://www.eff.org/issues/printers


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-05 Thread ashok . biollay

They are spying on us (nearly) everywhere. What a strange need !


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-05 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens

ashok.biol...@mailoo.org wrote:

On the website ThinkPenguin.Com I see that the only laser printer is a
priori not compatible with Trisquel.


I'd imagine any printer that can understand PostScript or PCL can work 
with CUPS (which is what I believe most GNU/Linux distributions use, 
including Trisquel). Is this not the case?


The printer might not work via USB but would it be okay if the printer 
worked via network connection? Network hubs and switches are fairly 
inexpensive.


As for avoiding tracking dots, DRMed toner cartridges, and proprietary 
firmware on the printer:


- tracking dots: it looks like you already know about this issue.
- DRMed toner cartridges: I recall Lexmark using DRMed ink cartridges in 
their ink printers, but I don't know if they do the same for laser 
toner. Then again, would it worth giving any business to an organization 
that treats anyone this way?
- Proprietary firmware in the printer: is very hard to avoid, in my 
experience, as I don't know of any modern laser printer without 
proprietary firmware. I will try and find a reference for a problem I 
recently saw with one modern laser printer (a Samsung, if I recall).




Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-08 Thread chris
I think people are confused because the color laser printer in our catalog  
doesn't have Trisquel listed. It's not that Trisquel is not supported, but  
rather it is that Trisquel 6 is not supported by the HP driver out of the  
box, but it is supported 'out of the box' to some degree (at least for the  
core functioning of the device) by the standard postscript driver. That  
basically means you will have to run the printer setup wizard and follow a  
set of directions on our support page if you want to use it with Trisquel 6.  
Trisquel 7 is not been officially released and the product page has not been  
updated to reflect support for Trisquel 7 yet (I actually just updated, as  
Trisquel 7 is basically done, and just has yet to be announced).


The support list is pretty much only going to have distribution and version  
listed if the device will 1. 'work out of the box' with at least the most  
recent release and 2. is fully supported. If it isn't fully supported or  
supported out of the box we'll frequently have notes about what is required  
in order to get the device working if its possible. Sometimes no info is  
listed and a device will potentially work still, but you are advised to  
contact support for more specific information.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-09 Thread adel . afzal

I opened a wiki page for the info that you guys are posting

https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/printer-freedom


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-20 Thread ashok . biollay

For example, if I buy, on ThinkPenguin.Com :

- this computer (with Trisquel 6 / 7 / ...) and
- this printer,

will it (be possible to make them) work together ?

The idea is to use one computer with Trisquel (without any proprietary  
software) and any peripheral (printer, mouse, external hard discs, usb keys,  
etc.).


If I buy this printer, can I print only black-white when the yellow is empty  
?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-20 Thread mikko . viinamaki
The printer will not work in Trisquel 6 (at least out of the box) because it  
requires a newer hplip version than what coms with Trisquel 6.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-20 Thread ashok . biollay
Ah !?! isn't there a way to make them (laser printer and trisquel) work  
together ? I don't want to come back to inkjet printers.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-20 Thread onpon4
Like Chris said, it will work at a basic level out-of-the-box, just not with  
all of its features. To get full support, you can either do the thing he  
mentioned to get full support on Trisquel 6, wait for Trisquel 7 to be  
released, or update to the Trisquel 7 pre-release.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-20 Thread nux
I have a Samsung ML-1610 (monochrome) - it's worked perfectly with every  
distro since the day I acquired it, about 10 years ago. Samsung used to  
provide Linux drivers (they still might), but it works 'out of the box' these  
days.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-20 Thread chris
Let me make a small correction about support in Trisquel 6 for this printer.  
The printer itself will work 'out of the box' in some sense of the meaning.  
While Trisquel's printing wizard won't auto-detect the right driver the stock  
postscript driver included in Trisquel 6 will work with it, and as such there  
is nothing to install. Simply manually selecting the right postscript driver  
should be all there is to it. I'm pretty sure we've added documentation on  
this for Trisquel 6 to the support section of our web site. If not send us an  
email and we'll add it and/or link you to the documentation.


* If I said otherwise somewhere let this be a correction. I probably did  
imply Trisquel 6 wasn't supported, but that would be at least in part wrong.  
It isn't fully supported out of the box is what I should have said.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-20 Thread chris
I've had some bad experiences with Samsung printers. It was with one of the  
early low end laser printers in fact. It's the same with HP I believe. In any  
event despite Samsung clearly advertising support for "Linux", they only  
provided proprietary drivers for a few distributions. I believe it was Redhat  
and maybe SUSE. These low end laser printers aren't a good choice for  
GNU/Linux users. They're generally not postscript compliant, and dependent on  
some non-free driver.


That said if you bought a higher end laser printer years ago there is a much  
better chance it'll work fairly seamlessly as most of the higher end laser  
printers traditionally have been postscript compliant making supporting them  
easy. It is less true today than ever before though. However that said I  
believe there are still a lot of higher end laser printers with postscript  
support on the market.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-22 Thread ashok . biollay

Okay, I will just use link the printer and the computer together.

Then, I especially print black-white pdf (texts ; maybe with LaTex  
mathematics symbols, music sheets).

I rarely print pictures.
I rarely print in colours.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-22 Thread chris
I probably should have also added that you should also be able to set the  
printer to print in b/w only if you so choose. You will still need to have a  
set of color cartridges, but that should be the extent of it.


To configure for b/w only printing just open up the printer settings, double  
click the printer after it has been added, go down to job options, and scroll  
down to other options (advanced) and change print-color-mode to monochrome.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-23 Thread ashok . biollay

Thank you for your answer. I will buy them soon (just time to spare money).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laser Printer compatible with Trisquel or totally free distributions ?

2014-08-26 Thread ashok . biollay
Thanks ! good job ! then new comers have the possibility to choose more  
appropriate (free) printers. ^^