Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-05 Thread Lance Muir




- Original Message - 
From: Debbie Sawczak 
To: 'Lance Muir' 
Sent: March 04, 2006 17:03
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Oh dear, he's got it all balled up.But one might have 
known he would misunderstand the reference; I think his premise is 
thatanything not completely transparent must be cover for something 
vile.Did you go on to explain in plain English what you meant by the clash 
of cultures?

D


- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Lance 
  Muir 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM 
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  First Dean, that was not the point of my 
  reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the 
  film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of 
  cultures.
  cd: Be honest Lance. This posting 
  you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as 
  the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the 
  southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made 
  the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 
  1972)?connect with the first part of the 
  sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the 
  south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently 
  then say so? I am all 
  ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not 
Lance?
  Lance 
  wrote:
  
  You can take the (wo)man out of the south 
  butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Dean 
Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance







  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lance 
  Muir 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  Why is that Kevin? Did you see the 
  film?
  cd:Lance why are you answering 
  my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both 
  "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my 
  house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have 
  sex with pigs-so cut it out!
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

    Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38
    Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance


cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from 
Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in 
time.




  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lance Muir 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  You can take the (wo)man out of the south 
  butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 04, 2006 
01:25
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance

Do you have a reference for us concerningthese 
cages Luther used?
see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first 
REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later 
converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got 
involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, 
it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the 
man!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the 
deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. 
Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard 
Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, 
Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured 
and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in 
a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), 
which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist 
revolution.Dean Moore 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
  [Original Message] From: David Miller 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
  <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 
  PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing 
  repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Lu

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-05 Thread Dean Moore








- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 4:09:28 PM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Let me interpret for you Dean. I use the word (wo)man instead of man for the purpose of inclusivity. I perceive the majority of TT as sexist. The 'Judy' connection never even occured to me. Once again Dean, connections were made by you; dark ones at that, that I didn't intend. 
cd: Well -I for one believe you Lance-but one should not connect two thoughts together that one does not intent to belong together-it will most certainly led others to mistake your meaning.

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 14:19
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.
cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance?
Lance wrote:

You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film?
cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out!

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance


cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.




- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?
see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if
 that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take 

RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-05 Thread ShieldsFamily








Yes, Judy is VERY Southerntry
Austrialia! Iz











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006
1:20 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk]
Continuing repentance































- Original Message - 





From: Lance Muir






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org





Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37
AM 





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What
does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed
someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.





cd: Be honest Lance. This
posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy)
are as the women of the movie Deliverance which would lead one to
believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as
you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am
all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance?





Lance wrote:







You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see
'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?









- Original Message - 





From: Dean Moore






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 04, 2006
11:20





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



































- Original Message - 





From: Lance Muir






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org





Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05
AM 





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film?





cd:Lance why are you
answering my post as to Kevin and Kevin's posts as to
Dean? Yes I have seen both Deliverance (Burt
Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and Lord of
War(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so
cut it out!







- Original Message - 





From: Dean Moore






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 04, 2006
07:38





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance













cd: Lance, I reject what
you are suggesting. People from Canada
that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.





















- Original Message - 





From: Lance Muir






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org





Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28
AM 





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see
'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?







- Original Message - 





From: Kevin
Deegan 





To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 04, 2006
01:25





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











Do you have a reference
for us concerningthese cages Luther used?





see following BUT Keep in mind these guys
were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later
converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in
polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to
take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!











http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling





From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with
the aid of the deserter Henry
Gresbeck, retook M|nster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were
imprisoned and interrogated. In On January
22, 1536,
Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed
in M|nster.
Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the
Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's
Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.





Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 [Original Message]
 From: David Miller 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
<TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

 RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:
  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street
  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and
  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning
  while he and his followers worshiped God.

 I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street
preachers. 
 Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract
of 
 Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning 
 these cages Luther used?
cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages
were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is
how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my
next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake
  City and grab the nearest Mormon I
see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang him
up in the Wesleyan
 Church and maybe my
brethren will think highly of me
also? My reference for this stat

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-05 Thread Lance Muir



Well, it's not quite Tasmania though.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  ShieldsFamily 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 05, 2006 10:10
  Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  Yes, Judy is VERY 
  Southern…try Austrialia! Iz
  
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean MooreSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:20 
  PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

- Original Message - 


From: Lance 
Muir 

To: 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 
3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: 
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



First Dean, that was not the 
point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to 
that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to 
demonstrate the clash of cultures.

cd: Be honest 
Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that 
southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which 
would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that 
had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence 
(Anyone see 
'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the 
first part of the sentence(.You can take the 
(wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were 
insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to 
insult our women (Judy)or not Lance?

Lance 
wrote:


You can take the (wo)man out of 
the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
  From: Dean 
  Moore 
  
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  
  Sent: March 
  04, 2006 11:20
  
  Subject: Re: 
  Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

- Original Message - 


From: Lance 
Muir 

To: 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 
3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 

Subject: Re: 
    Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



Why is that Kevin? Did you 
see the film?

cd:Lance why 
are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? 
Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a 
couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to 
your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it 
out!

  
  - Original Message 
  - 
  
  From: 
  Dean Moore 
  
  
  To: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  
  Sent: 
  March 04, 2006 07:38
  
  Subject: 
  Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  
  
  cd: Lance, I 
  reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada 
  that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in 
  time.
  
  
  
  
  

- Original Message 
- 

From: 
Lance Muir 


To: 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 
3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 
        
    Subject: 
    Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance



You can take the (wo)man 
out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 
1972)?

  
  - Original Message 
  - 
  
  From: Kevin Deegan 
  
  
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 
  01:25
  
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  Do you have 
  a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther 
  used?
  
  see 
  following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED 
  Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to 
  Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in 
  polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is 
  much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the 
  man!
 

RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-05 Thread Dean Moore








- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/5/2006 10:10:57 AM 
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance


Yes, Judy is VERY Southern…try Austrialia! Iz
cd: Wow-is Judy in Australia? I thought it was Virginia.I do remember her mentioning Australia in her Postings.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean MooreSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:20 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance










- Original Message - 

From: Lance Muir 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.

cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance?

Lance wrote:


You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?


- Original Message - 

From: Dean Moore 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











- Original Message - 

From: Lance Muir 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film?

cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out!


- Original Message - 

From: Dean Moore 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance




cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.






- Original Message - 

From: Lance Muir 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?


- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Deegan 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?

see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling

From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook M|nster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in M|nster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.
Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not po
lygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will 

RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-05 Thread ShieldsFamily








She does live there now. I believe she was
born an Aussie. They are spunky types Down Under, arent they? Iz











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dean Moore
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From: ShieldsFamily






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org





Sent: 3/5/2006 10:10:57
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Subject: RE: Fw:
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Yes, Judy is VERY Southerntry Austrialia!
Iz

cd: Wow-is Judy in Australia? I
thought it was Virginia.I do remember her mentioning Australia in her Postings.











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006
1:20 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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From: Lance Muir






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org





Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37
AM 





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What
does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed
someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.





cd: Be honest Lance. This
posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy)
are as the women of the movie Deliverance which would lead one to
believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as
you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am
all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance?





Lance wrote:







You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see
'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?









- Original Message - 





From: Dean Moore






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 04, 2006
11:20





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



































- Original Message - 





From: Lance Muir






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org





Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05
AM 





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film?





cd:Lance why are you
answering my post as to Kevin and Kevin's posts as to
Dean? Yes I have seen both Deliverance (Burt
Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and Lord of
War(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so
cut it out!







- Original Message - 





From: Dean Moore






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 04, 2006
07:38





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance













cd: Lance, I reject what
you are suggesting. People from Canada
that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.





















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From: Lance Muir






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org





Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28
AM 





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see
'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?







- Original Message - 





From: Kevin
Deegan 





To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 04, 2006
01:25





Subject: Re: Fw:
[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











Do you have a reference
for us concerningthese cages Luther used?





see following BUT Keep in mind these guys
were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later
converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in
polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to
take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!











http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling





From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with
the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck,
retook M|nster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and
interrogated. In On January 22,
1536, Knipperdolling,
Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in M|nster. Their corpses
were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church),
which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.





Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 [Original Message]
 From: David Miller 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
<TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

 RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:
  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street
  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and
  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning
  while he and his followers worshiped God.

 I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street
preachers. 
 Some 

RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-05 Thread Dean Moore








- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/5/2006 11:35:49 AM 
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance


She does live there now. I believe she was born an Aussie. They are spunky types Down Under, aren’t they? Iz

cd: If I ever have to go to war I'm taking Judy with me:-)Wait- I am in a war and Judy is with me. Great, everything is as it should be.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean MooreSent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:45 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance










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From: ShieldsFamily 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 3/5/2006 10:10:57 AM 

Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance


Yes, Judy is VERY Southerntry Austrialia! Iz
cd: Wow-is Judy in Australia? I thought it was Virginia.I do remember her mentioning Australia in her Postings.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean MooreSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:20 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance










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From: Lance Muir 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.

cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance?

Lance wrote:


You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?


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From: Dean Moore 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance











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From: Lance Muir 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film?

cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out!


- Original Message - 

From: Dean Moore 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance




cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.






- Original Message - 

From: Lance Muir 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?


- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Deegan 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance



Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?

see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling

From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook M|nster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in M|nster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.
Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists wer

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Lance Muir



You can take the (wo)man out of the south 
butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther 
  used?
  see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED 
  Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in 
  addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the 
  man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism 
  out of the man!
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
  From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson 
  and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and 
  interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were 
  publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were 
  suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), 
  which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist 
  revolution.Dean Moore 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
[Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 
PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
    repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd 
wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  
Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church 
even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped 
God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were 
good streetpreachers.  Some of them were polygamists who did not 
recognize the marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. 
Do you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther 
used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird 
cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if 
that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with 
me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest 
Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage 
and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think 
highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a 
Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these 
people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist 
polygamist? David Miller.  
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Lance Muir
Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your thinking 
concerning many matters?



- Original Message - 
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







[Original Message]
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:
 Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street
 Preachers put in oversize bird cages and
 hung up in the church even on Sunday morning
 while he and his followers worshiped God.

I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street

preachers.

Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract

of

Lutherans or Roman Catholics.  Do you have a reference for us concerning
these cages Luther used?

cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages
were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is
how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my
next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I
see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang 
him

up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me
also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- he
is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther
prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist?


David Miller.

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know how you ought to answer every man.  (Colossians 4:6)
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

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cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.




- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?
see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if
 that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller.  -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Lance Muir



Why is that Kevin? Did you see the 
film?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada 
  that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance

You can take the (wo)man out of the south 
butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages 
  Luther used?
  see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED 
  Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism 
  in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can 
  take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman 
  Catholicism out of the man!
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
  From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter 
  Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, 
  Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were 
  imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 
  1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson 
  were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their 
  corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. 
  Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist 
  revolution.Dean Moore 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
[Original Message] From: David Miller 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> 
Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
    Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing 
repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had 
Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and 
 hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he 
and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand 
that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of 
them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof 
 Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us 
concerning  these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding 
the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not 
polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow 
a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on 
mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest 
Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the 
cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren 
will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron 
Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the 
source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were 
Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller.  
-- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with 
salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." 
(Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do 
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Dean Moore








- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film?
cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out!

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance


cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.




- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?
see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if
 that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller.  -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Lance Muir



First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. 
What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I 
showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of 
cultures.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance

Why is that Kevin? Did you see the 
film?
cd:Lance why are you answering 
my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both 
"Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- 
and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with 
pigs-so cut it out!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from 
  Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in 
  time.
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 
    Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance

You can take the (wo)man out of the south 
butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  Do you have a reference for us concerningthese 
  cages Luther used?
  see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED 
  Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to 
  Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in 
  polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much 
  harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
  From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter 
  Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. 
  Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard 
  Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, 
  Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and 
  executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a 
  cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which 
  had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist 
  revolution.Dean Moore 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
[Original Message] From: David Miller 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
<TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 
    PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing 
repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had 
Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and 
 hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while 
he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you 
understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. 
 Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the 
marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do 
you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther 
used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put 
in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus 
Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then 
should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to 
Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the 
street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in 
the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of 
mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a 
Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that 
these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were 
Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. 
 -- "Let your speech be always with 
grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to 
answer every man." (Colossians 
4:6)http://www.InnG

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Dean Moore



 [Original Message]
 From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Date: 3/4/2006 6:41:38 AM
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

 Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your
thinking 
 concerning many matters?
cd: Yes-He has a strictness in dress and is tougher on the sinner then I
but each one us must answer for our own preaching-as you also do Lance. Ron
Mcrae is one of the greatest mind I have ever encountered-bar none.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance


 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
 
  RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:
   Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street
   Preachers put in oversize bird cages and
   hung up in the church even on Sunday morning
   while he and his followers worshiped God.
 
  I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street
  preachers.
  Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage
contract
  of
  Lutherans or Roman Catholics.  Do you have a reference for us
concerning
  these cages Luther used?
  cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages
  were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that
is
  how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on
my
  next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I
  see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang 
  him
  up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me
  also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist-
he
  is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther
  prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist?
 
  David Miller.
 
  --
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  know how you ought to answer every man.  (Colossians 4:6)
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Lance Muir
Bar None, Dean? I sorry but, I've never been to that bar. Do you recommend 
it?



- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 04, 2006 11:51
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







[Original Message]
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Date: 3/4/2006 6:41:38 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your

thinking

concerning many matters?

cd: Yes-He has a strictness in dress and is tougher on the sinner then I
but each one us must answer for our own preaching-as you also do Lance. 
Ron

Mcrae is one of the greatest mind I have ever encountered-bar none.



- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance





 [Original Message]
 From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

 RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:
  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street
  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and
  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning
  while he and his followers worshiped God.

 I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street
 preachers.
 Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage

contract

 of
 Lutherans or Roman Catholics.  Do you have a reference for us

concerning

 these cages Luther used?
 cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird 
 cages

 were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that

is

 how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on

my
 next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon 
 I

 see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang
 him
 up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me
 also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist-

he

 is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther
 prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist?

 David Miller.

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 may

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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Dean Moore








- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.
cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance?
Lance wrote:

You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film?
cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out!

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance


cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.




- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?
see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if
 that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller.  -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Dean Moore



 [Original Message]
 From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Date: 3/4/2006 11:56:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

 Bar None, Dean? I sorry but, I've never been to that bar. Do you
recommend 
 it
cd: You are still under a bar Lance-but not the one Ron M is not under.
.Step out to our Godly Fear Jesus and you then can look back and see that
bar.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: March 04, 2006 11:51
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance


 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Date: 3/4/2006 6:41:38 AM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
 
  Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your
  thinking
  concerning many matters?
  cd: Yes-He has a strictness in dress and is tougher on the sinner then I
  but each one us must answer for our own preaching-as you also do Lance. 
  Ron
  Mcrae is one of the greatest mind I have ever encountered-bar none.
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
 
 
  
  
  
   [Original Message]
   From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM
   Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
  
   RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:
Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street
Preachers put in oversize bird cages and
hung up in the church even on Sunday morning
while he and his followers worshiped God.
  
   I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street
   preachers.
   Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage
  contract
   of
   Lutherans or Roman Catholics.  Do you have a reference for us
  concerning
   these cages Luther used?
   cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird 
   cages
   were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if
that
  is
   how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me
on
  my
   next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest
Mormon 
   I
   see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and
hang
   him
   up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of
me
   also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a
Anabaptist-
  he
   is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther
   prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist?
  
   David Miller.
  
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   may
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Those WICKED WICKED WICKED ETHNOcentric White Anglo saxon protestants!In the case of Muslims do you consider severing heads "culture"?  Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.- Original Message -   From: Dean Moore   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance- Original Message -   From: Lance Muir   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM   Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceWhy is that Kevin? Did you see the film?  cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out!- Original Message -   From:
 Dean Moore   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance  cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.  - Original Message -   From: Lance Muir
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM   Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceYou can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?- Original Message -   From: Kevin Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceDo you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?  see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling  From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling,
 Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird
 cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the
 source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller.  -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Lance Muir

Was that a double negative or syntactical redundance or neither?


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From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Date: 3/4/2006 11:56:28 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Bar None, Dean? I sorry but, I've never been to that bar. Do you

recommend

it

cd: You are still under a bar Lance-but not the one Ron M is not under.
.Step out to our Godly Fear Jesus and you then can look back and see that
bar.



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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 04, 2006 11:51
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance





 [Original Message]
 From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Date: 3/4/2006 6:41:38 AM
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

 Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your
 thinking
 concerning many matters?
 cd: Yes-He has a strictness in dress and is tougher on the sinner then 
 I

 but each one us must answer for our own preaching-as you also do Lance.
 Ron
 Mcrae is one of the greatest mind I have ever encountered-bar none.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance


 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
 
  RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:
   Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street
   Preachers put in oversize bird cages and
   hung up in the church even on Sunday morning
   while he and his followers worshiped God.
 
  I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street
  preachers.
  Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage
 contract
  of
  Lutherans or Roman Catholics.  Do you have a reference for us
 concerning
  these cages Luther used?
  cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird
  cages
  were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if

that

 is
  how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me

on

 my
  next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest

Mormon

  I
  see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and

hang

  him
  up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of

me

  also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a

Anabaptist-

 he
  is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther
  prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist?
 
  David Miller.
 
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Lance Muir



I contextualize you guys when reading you so, why 
wouldn't I do so with them?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 15:23
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  Those WICKED WICKED WICKED ETHNOcentric 
  White Anglo saxon protestants!In the case of Muslims do you consider 
  severing heads "culture"?
  Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  



First Dean, that was not the point of my 
reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of 
the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the 
clash of cultures.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance

Why is that Kevin? Did you see the 
film?
cd:Lance why are you 
answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I 
have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of 
miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your 
suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it 
out!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from 
  Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in 
  time.
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance

You can take the (wo)man out of the 
south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 
      01:25
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  Do you have a reference for us concerningthese 
  cages Luther used?
  see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first 
  REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later 
  converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got 
  involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman 
  Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out 
  of the man!
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
  From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the 
  deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook 
  Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and 
  interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and 
  Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in 
  Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage 
  from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which 
  had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist 
  revolution.Dean Moore 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
[Original Message] From: David Miller 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
<TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 
    PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing 
repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther 
had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages 
and  hung up in the church even on Sunday 
morning  while he and his followers worshiped 
God. I hope you understand that not all 
Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of them 
were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage 
contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you 
have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther 
used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had 
  

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Lance Muir



Let me interpret for you Dean. I use the word 
(wo)man instead of man for the purpose of inclusivity. I perceive the majority 
of TT as sexist. The 'Judy' connection never even occured to me. Once again 
Dean, connections were made by you; dark ones at that, that I didn't intend. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 14:19
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance

First Dean, that was not the point of my 
reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of 
the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the 
clash of cultures.
cd: Be honest Lance. This 
posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women 
(Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to 
believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- 
as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 
'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first 
part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man 
out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something 
differently then say 
so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not 
Lance?
Lance 
wrote:

You can take the (wo)man out of the south 
butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance

Why is that Kevin? Did you see the 
film?
cd:Lance why are you 
answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I 
have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of 
miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your 
suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it 
out!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from 
  Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in 
  time.
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance

You can take the (wo)man out of the 
south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 04, 2006 
      01:25
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  Do you have a reference for us concerningthese 
  cages Luther used?
  see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first 
  REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later 
  converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got 
  involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman 
  Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out 
  of the man!
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling
  From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the 
  deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook 
  Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and 
  interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and 
  Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in 
  Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage 
  from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which 
  had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist 
  revolution.Dean Moore 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
[Original Me

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Why not CONTEXTUALIZE Matt 23?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I contextualize you guys when reading you so, why wouldn't I do so with them?- Original Message -   From: Kevin Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 04, 2006 15:23  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceThose WICKED WICKED WICKED ETHNOcentric White Anglo saxon protestants!In the case of Muslims do you consider severing heads "culture"?  Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.- Original Message -   From: Dean Moore   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance- Original Message -   From: Lance Muir   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM   Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceWhy is that Kevin? Did you see the film?  cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out!- Original Message -   From: Dean Moore   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance  cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time.  - Original Message -   From: Lance Muir   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM   Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceYou can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?- Original Message -   From: Kevin Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceDo you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?  see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling 
 From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE:
 [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe
 my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller.  -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-03 Thread Dean Moore
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance








- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/27/2006 6:37:25 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

I've had a couple of years to read DM, Dean. I've also had some time to read you, Dean. Based upon the content, I've made my choice.
cd: Don't know what you are choosing but hope it ends well for you.

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 27, 2006 06:23
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/27/2006 6:01:29 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

No. See DM on this.

cd: Why would Ron Mcrae'steaching by questioned by you and not D.Millers?

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 26, 2006 18:22
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. 
cd: But is it true,Lance?

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers?

cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned.

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance








I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled.
cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says:

Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.


Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-03 Thread Dean Moore



 [Original Message]
 From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

 RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:
  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street
  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and
  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning
  while he and his followers worshiped God.

 I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street
preachers. 
 Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract
of 
 Lutherans or Roman Catholics.  Do you have a reference for us concerning 
 these cages Luther used?
 cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages
were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is
how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my
next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I
see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang him
up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me
also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- he
is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther
prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist?

 David Miller. 

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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?  see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling  From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in
 Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  Some of them were polygamists who
 did not recognize the marriage contractof  Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning  these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller.  -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to
 answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-03-03 Thread Kevin Deegan
In writing to Menius and Myconius in 1530, Martin Luther favored applying the sword to the Anabaptists. He said:"I am pleased that you intend to publish a book against the Anabaptists as soon as possible. Since they are not only blasphemous, but also seditious men, let the sword exercise its rights over them, for it is the will of God that he shall have judgment who resisteth the power."Calvin said “godly princes may lawfully issue edicts, for compelling obstinate and rebellious persons to worship the true God, and to maintain the unity of the faith; for, though faith is voluntary, yet we see that such methods are useful for subduing the obstinacy of those who will not yield until they are compelled” Compare to this:“The magistrate is not by virtue of his office to meddle with religion, or matters of conscience, to force or compel men to this or that form of religion, or doctrine; but to leave Christian religion free, to every man’s con-science, and to handle only civil transgressions.”- McGlothlin, “Baptist Confession of Faith,” p. 82. published in 1614Baptist Leonard Busher, “A Citizen of London,” which was presented to King James and the high court of Parliament then sitting, a work entitled, “Religion’s Peace, or A Plea for Liberty of Conscience.” “For all good shepherds will divide and separate, and not force, slay, and persecute,” Busher declared. “Kings and magistrates are to rule temporal affairs by the swords
 of their temporal kingdoms, and bishops and ministers are to rule spiritual affair’s by the word and Spirit of God, the sword of Christ’s spiritual kingdom, and not to inter-meddle one with another’s authority, office, and function. And it is a great shame for the bishops and ministers not to be able to rule in their church without the assistance of the king and magistrate; yea, it is a great sign they are none of Christ’s bishops and ministers. If they were, they would not be afraid nor ashamed of their faith; nor yet would they persuade princes and people to persecute, and force one another to believe them; but would use only the assistance of God’s word and Spirit, and therewith suffer their faith and doctrine to be examined, proved, and disputed, both by word and writing.”–”Tracts on Liberty of Conscience,” p. 23.Baptist, John Murton, in 1615, wrote a treatise entitled, “Persecution for Religion
 Judged and Condemned,” and presented it to the king of England, “No man ought to be persecuted for his religion, be it true or false, so they testify their faithful allegiance to the king.” “What authority can any mortal man require more, than of body, goods, life, and all that appertaineth to the outward man? The heart God requireth.”–Id., pp. 95, 108.John Smyth, in exile, wrote, "The prince must leave the Christian religion free to every man's conscience." Roger Williams labeled the violation of conscience by the civil power The Bloudy Tenent of Persecution for Cause of Conscience. "Heresy must be cut off with the sword of the Spirit," not "the sword of the magistrate."  "the civil magistrate ought not to punish a breach of the first table of the law,
 comprised in the first four of the ten commandments." Which he held, were duties which man owed exclusively to God, and as such did not fall within the civil duties which man owed to the state.No citizen is or has been more loyal to the government or more zealous for the rights of others than a historically informed, gospel believing Baptist. Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used?  see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much
 harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling  From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[Original
 Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:  Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street  Preachers put in oversize bird cages and  hung up in the church even on Sunday morning  while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers.  So

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance



No. See DM on this.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 18:22
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance

This, Dean, is an insult of the first 
magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have 
benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. 
cd: But is it true,Lance?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance

Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you 
and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time 
in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as 
UNbelievers?

cd: I see then as holding 
part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful 
then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I 
see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident 
of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has 
always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent 
the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will 
always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my 
understanding of the actions of these two men 
mentioned.

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 
  07:37
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  


  I think there is a big difference. Luther was 
  a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters 
  Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to 
  going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more 
  abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum 
  swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also 
  he never got completely free from the RC taint in 
  his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and 
  longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine 
  there - Luther wanted them hunted down 
  andkilled.
  cd: Judy did 
  you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird 
  cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he 
  and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote 
  hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was 
  persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians 
  done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what 
  the Bible says:
  
  Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence 
  to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me 
  to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly 
  contend for the faith which was 
  once 
  delivered unto 
  the saints.
  In the above I see no room for 
  modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern 
  belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great 
  mistake.
  


Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Dean Moore
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance








- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/27/2006 6:01:29 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

No. See DM on this.

cd: Why would Ron Mcrae'steaching by questioned by you and not D.Millers?

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 26, 2006 18:22
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. 
cd: But is it true,Lance?

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers?

cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned.

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance








I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled.
cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says:

Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.


Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance



I've had a couple of years to read DM, Dean. I've 
also had some time to read you, Dean. Based upon the content, I've made my 
choice.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 27, 2006 06:23
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/27/2006 6:01:29 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance

No. See DM on this.

cd: Why would Ron 
Mcrae'steaching by questioned by you and not 
D.Millers?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 18:22
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance

This, Dean, is an insult of the first 
magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that 
have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. 

cd: But is it true,Lance?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 
  09:06
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
Continuing repentance

Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that 
you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at 
that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as 
UNbelievers?

cd: I see then as 
holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be 
more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to 
Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the 
RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. 
Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into 
the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading 
with their teachings. The world will always receive error before 
truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the 
actions of these two men mentioned.

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 
  07:37
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  


  I think there is a big difference. Luther 
  was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. 
  Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in 
  penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth 
  much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case 
  the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite 
  direction. Also he never got 
  completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the 
  Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. 
  One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted 
  them hunted down andkilled.
  cd: Judy 
  did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in 
  oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday 
  morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me 
  that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In 
  the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the 
  pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the 
  moderation of religion-here is what the Bible 
  says:
  
  Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all 
  diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was 
   

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Dean Moore
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance









I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled.
cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says:

Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.


Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance



Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy 
have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do 
either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  


  I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit 
  rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his 
  knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where 
  sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in 
  his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. 
  Also he 
  never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the 
  Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see 
  the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down 
  andkilled.
  cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put 
  in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning 
  while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote 
  hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- 
  the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern 
  the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible 
  says:
  
  Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write 
  unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, 
  and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was 
  once delivered unto the saints.
  In the above I see no room for 
  modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of 
  righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
  


Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance



Are Dean and I to believe Lance that you perceive these 
two men to be "conformed to the image
of Christ" in their generation? I had never heard 
of the "oversize bird cages" do you know about this Lance?

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:43:03 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and 
  Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in 
  history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers?
  
From: Dean Moore 
I think there is a big 
difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling 
up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to 
going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and 
running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could 
in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free 
from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love 
and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there 
- Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled.

  
  
cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers 
put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday 
morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some 
people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who 
was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done 
such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible 
says:

Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to 
write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write 
unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for 
the faith which was once delivered unto the 
saints.
In the above I see no room for 
modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of 
righ or wrong.To do so is a great 
mistake.

  


Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance



As to the former, "conformed to the image of 
Christ", yes. As to the latter "cages", no.

As I see it, Judy/Dean and others, what underlies 
the INSULTS (take note Dean) being levelled at: the church fathers, Augustine, 
Calvin, Luther, Barth, Torrance, Polanyi, Joseph Smith, Dake...(please 
insert in your favourite 'bad person' here) is a conclusion. I don't feel the 
need to identify that conclusion.These conclusions are attempt circumventing 
genuine dialogue.In some/many cases there exists no wish to 'dialogue' 
whatsoever'.

 Original Message - 

  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 08:07
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  Are Dean and I to believe Lance that you perceive 
  these two men to be "conformed to the image
  of Christ" in their generation? I had never 
  heard of the "oversize bird cages" do you know about this Lance?
  
  On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:43:03 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  
Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and 
Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in 
history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as 
UNbelievers?

  From: Dean Moore 
  I think there is a big 
  difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from 
  crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in 
  penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more 
  abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as 
  far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free 
  from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of 
  love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of 
  Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down 
  andkilled.
  


  cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers 
  put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday 
  morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some 
  people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible 
  who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians 
  done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the 
  Bible says:
  
  Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to 
  write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write 
  unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend 
  for the faith which was once delivered unto the 
  saints.
  In the above I see no room for 
  modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief 
  of righ or wrong.To do so is a great 
  mistake.
  



Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Dean Moore
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance








- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers?

cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned.

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance








I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled.
cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says:

Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.


Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance



This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It 
insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from 
that which the Lord had to say through them. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
  repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing 
repentance

Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and 
Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in 
history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as 
UNbelievers?

cd: I see then as holding part 
truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then 
helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error 
in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their 
praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed 
but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth 
from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error 
before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions 
of these two men mentioned.

  - Original 
  Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
  Continuing repentance
  
  
  
  
  
  


  I think there is a big difference. Luther was a 
  bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica 
  on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild 
  with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running 
  off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in 
  the opposite direction. Also he never got completely 
  free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not 
  one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence 
  of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down 
  andkilled.
  cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers 
  put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday 
  morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some 
  people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible 
  who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians 
  done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the 
  Bible says:
  
  Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to 
  write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write 
  unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend 
  for the faith which was once delivered unto the 
  saints.
  In the above I see no room for 
  modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief 
  of righ or wrong.To do so is a great 
  mistake.
  


Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Dean Moore
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance








- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. 
cd: But is it true,Lance?

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance







- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers?

cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned.

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Moore 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance








I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled.
cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says:

Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.


Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread David Miller
RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote:
 Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street
 Preachers put in oversize bird cages and
 hung up in the church even on Sunday morning
 while he and his followers worshiped God.

I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. 
Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract of 
Lutherans or Roman Catholics.  Do you have a reference for us concerning 
these cages Luther used?

David Miller. 

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