Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
- Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: March 04, 2006 17:03 Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Oh dear, he's got it all balled up.But one might have known he would misunderstand the reference; I think his premise is thatanything not completely transparent must be cover for something vile.Did you go on to explain in plain English what you meant by the clash of cultures? D - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance? Lance wrote: You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Lu
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- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 4:09:28 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Let me interpret for you Dean. I use the word (wo)man instead of man for the purpose of inclusivity. I perceive the majority of TT as sexist. The 'Judy' connection never even occured to me. Once again Dean, connections were made by you; dark ones at that, that I didn't intend. cd: Well -I for one believe you Lance-but one should not connect two thoughts together that one does not intent to belong together-it will most certainly led others to mistake your meaning. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 14:19 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance? Lance wrote: You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take
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Yes, Judy is VERY Southerntry Austrialia! Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:20 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie Deliverance which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance? Lance wrote: You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to Kevin and Kevin's posts as to Dean? Yes I have seen both Deliverance (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and Lord of War(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook M|nster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in M|nster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution. Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract of Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used? cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang him up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me also? My reference for this stat
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Well, it's not quite Tasmania though. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 05, 2006 10:10 Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Yes, Judy is VERY Southern try Austrialia! Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean MooreSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:20 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance? Lance wrote: You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!
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- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/5/2006 10:10:57 AM Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Yes, Judy is VERY Southern try Austrialia! Iz cd: Wow-is Judy in Australia? I thought it was Virginia.I do remember her mentioning Australia in her Postings. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean MooreSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:20 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance? Lance wrote: You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook M|nster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in M|nster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution. Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not po lygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will
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She does live there now. I believe she was born an Aussie. They are spunky types Down Under, arent they? Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:45 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/5/2006 10:10:57 AM Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Yes, Judy is VERY Southerntry Austrialia! Iz cd: Wow-is Judy in Australia? I thought it was Virginia.I do remember her mentioning Australia in her Postings. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:20 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie Deliverance which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance? Lance wrote: You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to Kevin and Kevin's posts as to Dean? Yes I have seen both Deliverance (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and Lord of War(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook M|nster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in M|nster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution. Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. Some
RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/5/2006 11:35:49 AM Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance She does live there now. I believe she was born an Aussie. They are spunky types Down Under, arent they? Iz cd: If I ever have to go to war I'm taking Judy with me:-)Wait- I am in a war and Judy is with me. Great, everything is as it should be. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean MooreSent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:45 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/5/2006 10:10:57 AM Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Yes, Judy is VERY Southerntry Austrialia! Iz cd: Wow-is Judy in Australia? I thought it was Virginia.I do remember her mentioning Australia in her Postings. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean MooreSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:20 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance? Lance wrote: You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook M|nster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in M|nster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution. Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists wer
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your thinking concerning many matters? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance [Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract of Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used? cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang him up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- he is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnG
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
[Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 3/4/2006 6:41:38 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your thinking concerning many matters? cd: Yes-He has a strictness in dress and is tougher on the sinner then I but each one us must answer for our own preaching-as you also do Lance. Ron Mcrae is one of the greatest mind I have ever encountered-bar none. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance [Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract of Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used? cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang him up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- he is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Bar None, Dean? I sorry but, I've never been to that bar. Do you recommend it? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:51 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance [Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 3/4/2006 6:41:38 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your thinking concerning many matters? cd: Yes-He has a strictness in dress and is tougher on the sinner then I but each one us must answer for our own preaching-as you also do Lance. Ron Mcrae is one of the greatest mind I have ever encountered-bar none. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance [Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract of Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used? cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang him up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- he is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance? Lance wrote: You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
[Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 3/4/2006 11:56:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Bar None, Dean? I sorry but, I've never been to that bar. Do you recommend it cd: You are still under a bar Lance-but not the one Ron M is not under. .Step out to our Godly Fear Jesus and you then can look back and see that bar. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:51 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance [Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 3/4/2006 6:41:38 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your thinking concerning many matters? cd: Yes-He has a strictness in dress and is tougher on the sinner then I but each one us must answer for our own preaching-as you also do Lance. Ron Mcrae is one of the greatest mind I have ever encountered-bar none. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance [Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract of Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used? cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang him up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- he is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Those WICKED WICKED WICKED ETHNOcentric White Anglo saxon protestants!In the case of Muslims do you consider severing heads "culture"? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceWhy is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out!- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceYou can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceDo you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protecti
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Was that a double negative or syntactical redundance or neither? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 14:40 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance [Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 3/4/2006 11:56:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Bar None, Dean? I sorry but, I've never been to that bar. Do you recommend it cd: You are still under a bar Lance-but not the one Ron M is not under. .Step out to our Godly Fear Jesus and you then can look back and see that bar. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:51 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance [Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 3/4/2006 6:41:38 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean: Is this Ron McRae quite influential in the formation of your thinking concerning many matters? cd: Yes-He has a strictness in dress and is tougher on the sinner then I but each one us must answer for our own preaching-as you also do Lance. Ron Mcrae is one of the greatest mind I have ever encountered-bar none. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 03, 2006 19:53 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance [Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract of Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used? cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang him up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- he is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed
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I contextualize you guys when reading you so, why wouldn't I do so with them? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 15:23 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Those WICKED WICKED WICKED ETHNOcentric White Anglo saxon protestants!In the case of Muslims do you consider severing heads "culture"? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Let me interpret for you Dean. I use the word (wo)man instead of man for the purpose of inclusivity. I perceive the majority of TT as sexist. The 'Judy' connection never even occured to me. Once again Dean, connections were made by you; dark ones at that, that I didn't intend. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 14:19 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures. cd: Be honest Lance. This posting you sent clearly showyour believe/bias that southern women (Judy) are as the women of the movie "Deliverance" which would lead one to believe the southern men are as the men in the movie that had sex with pigs- as you made the last of the sentence (Anyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?connect with the first part of the sentence(.You can take the (wo)man out of the south but...) . If you were insinuation something differently then say so? I am all ears?Did you mean to insult our women (Judy)or not Lance? Lance wrote: You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Why is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance You can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Me
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Why not CONTEXTUALIZE Matt 23?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I contextualize you guys when reading you so, why wouldn't I do so with them?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 15:23 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceThose WICKED WICKED WICKED ETHNOcentric White Anglo saxon protestants!In the case of Muslims do you consider severing heads "culture"? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to demonstrate the clash of cultures.- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 11:20 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 10:33:05 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceWhy is that Kevin? Did you see the film? cd:Lance why are you answering my post as to" Kevin" and Kevin's posts as to "Dean"? Yes I have seen both "Deliverance" (Burt Reynolds)-it was filmed a couple of miles from my house- and "Lord of War"(Nich. Cage).And as to your suggest-we do not have sex with pigs-so cut it out!- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 07:38 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance cd: Lance, I reject what you are suggesting. People from Canada that speak this way will only hurt their own Nation -in time. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/4/2006 5:53:28 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceYou can take the (wo)man out of the south butAnyone see 'Deliverance' (circa 1972)?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 04, 2006 01:25 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentanceDo you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not
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Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/27/2006 6:37:25 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance I've had a couple of years to read DM, Dean. I've also had some time to read you, Dean. Based upon the content, I've made my choice. cd: Don't know what you are choosing but hope it ends well for you. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 06:23 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/27/2006 6:01:29 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance No. See DM on this. cd: Why would Ron Mcrae'steaching by questioned by you and not D.Millers? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 18:22 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. cd: But is it true,Lance? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
[Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract of Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used? cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cages were not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that is how a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on my next trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon I see crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang him up in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of me also? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- he is not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Luther prosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contractof Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used?cd:To my understanding the Street Preachers Luther had put in bird cageswere not polygamist-they preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if that ishow a Christian is suppose to act then should I take a cage with me on mynext trip (Lord willing) to Salt Lake City and grab the nearest Mormon Isee crossing the street with two wives and put him in the cage and hang himup in the Wesleyan Church and maybe my brethren will think highly of mealso? My reference for this statement is Ron Mcrae-while a Anabaptist- heis not a polygamist.Do you have the source that these people Lutherprosecuted by hanging in cages were Anabaptist polygamist? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
In writing to Menius and Myconius in 1530, Martin Luther favored applying the sword to the Anabaptists. He said:"I am pleased that you intend to publish a book against the Anabaptists as soon as possible. Since they are not only blasphemous, but also seditious men, let the sword exercise its rights over them, for it is the will of God that he shall have judgment who resisteth the power."Calvin said godly princes may lawfully issue edicts, for compelling obstinate and rebellious persons to worship the true God, and to maintain the unity of the faith; for, though faith is voluntary, yet we see that such methods are useful for subduing the obstinacy of those who will not yield until they are compelled Compare to this:The magistrate is not by virtue of his office to meddle with religion, or matters of conscience, to force or compel men to this or that form of religion, or doctrine; but to leave Christian religion free, to every mans con-science, and to handle only civil transgressions.- McGlothlin, Baptist Confession of Faith, p. 82. published in 1614Baptist Leonard Busher, A Citizen of London, which was presented to King James and the high court of Parliament then sitting, a work entitled, Religions Peace, or A Plea for Liberty of Conscience. For all good shepherds will divide and separate, and not force, slay, and persecute, Busher declared. Kings and magistrates are to rule temporal affairs by the swords of their temporal kingdoms, and bishops and ministers are to rule spiritual affairs by the word and Spirit of God, the sword of Christs spiritual kingdom, and not to inter-meddle one with anothers authority, office, and function. And it is a great shame for the bishops and ministers not to be able to rule in their church without the assistance of the king and magistrate; yea, it is a great sign they are none of Christs bishops and ministers. If they were, they would not be afraid nor ashamed of their faith; nor yet would they persuade princes and people to persecute, and force one another to believe them; but would use only the assistance of Gods word and Spirit, and therewith suffer their faith and doctrine to be examined, proved, and disputed, both by word and writing.Tracts on Liberty of Conscience, p. 23.Baptist, John Murton, in 1615, wrote a treatise entitled, Persecution for Religion Judged and Condemned, and presented it to the king of England, No man ought to be persecuted for his religion, be it true or false, so they testify their faithful allegiance to the king. What authority can any mortal man require more, than of body, goods, life, and all that appertaineth to the outward man? The heart God requireth.Id., pp. 95, 108.John Smyth, in exile, wrote, "The prince must leave the Christian religion free to every man's conscience." Roger Williams labeled the violation of conscience by the civil power The Bloudy Tenent of Persecution for Cause of Conscience. "Heresy must be cut off with the sword of the Spirit," not "the sword of the magistrate." "the civil magistrate ought not to punish a breach of the first table of the law, comprised in the first four of the ten commandments." Which he held, were duties which man owed exclusively to God, and as such did not fall within the civil duties which man owed to the state.No citizen is or has been more loyal to the government or more zealous for the rights of others than a historically informed, gospel believing Baptist. Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Do you have a reference for us concerningthese cages Luther used? see following BUT Keep in mind these guys were first REFORMED Catholics (eg REFORMERS one and all) who later converted to Anabaptism in addition in their later lives they got involved in polygamy. You can take the man out of Roman Catholicism, it is much harder to take the Roman Catholicism out of the man!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Knipperdolling From June 24 - 25, 1535, the Bishop, with the aid of the deserter Henry Gresbeck, retook Münster. Knipperdolling, Bockelson and Bernhard Krechting were imprisoned and interrogated. In On January 22, 1536, Knipperdolling, Krechting, and Bockelson were publicly tortured and executed in Münster. Their corpses were suspended in a cage from the Lambertuskirche (St. Lambert's Church), which had been the initial focus of the Anabaptist revolution.Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[Original Message] From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Date: 2/26/2006 11:58:10 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good streetpreachers. So
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance No. See DM on this. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 18:22 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. cd: But is it true,Lance? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/27/2006 6:01:29 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance No. See DM on this. cd: Why would Ron Mcrae'steaching by questioned by you and not D.Millers? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 18:22 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. cd: But is it true,Lance? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance I've had a couple of years to read DM, Dean. I've also had some time to read you, Dean. Based upon the content, I've made my choice. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 06:23 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/27/2006 6:01:29 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance No. See DM on this. cd: Why would Ron Mcrae'steaching by questioned by you and not D.Millers? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 18:22 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. cd: But is it true,Lance? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance Are Dean and I to believe Lance that you perceive these two men to be "conformed to the image of Christ" in their generation? I had never heard of the "oversize bird cages" do you know about this Lance? On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:43:03 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? From: Dean Moore I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance As to the former, "conformed to the image of Christ", yes. As to the latter "cages", no. As I see it, Judy/Dean and others, what underlies the INSULTS (take note Dean) being levelled at: the church fathers, Augustine, Calvin, Luther, Barth, Torrance, Polanyi, Joseph Smith, Dake...(please insert in your favourite 'bad person' here) is a conclusion. I don't feel the need to identify that conclusion.These conclusions are attempt circumventing genuine dialogue.In some/many cases there exists no wish to 'dialogue' whatsoever'. Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 08:07 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Are Dean and I to believe Lance that you perceive these two men to be "conformed to the image of Christ" in their generation? I had never heard of the "oversize bird cages" do you know about this Lance? On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:43:03 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? From: Dean Moore I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers inthe churches that have benefitted from that which the Lord had to say through them. cd: But is it true,Lance? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed' THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? cd: I see then as holding part truth and part error. Their fruits shows them to be more harmful then helpful. What did these two reform the world to Truth or error?I see error in the magnitudeof the error of the RCC-which is evident of their praying to Mary as intercessor. Consider this- the truth has always existed but these guys step into the place of truth and prevent the existing truth from spreading with their teachings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 07:37 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance I think there is a big difference. Luther was a bit rude and crude and he went from crawling up St. Peters Basillica on his knees and flagellating himself in penance to going wild with"where sin abounds grace doth much more abound" and running off with that. So in his case the pendulum swung as far as it could in the opposite direction. Also he never got completely free from the RC taint in his attitude toward the Jews which was not one of love and longsuffering by any means. One can see the influence of Augustine there - Luther wanted them hunted down andkilled. cd: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. Amazes me that some people quote hin as an enerest speaker for God. In the entire Bible who was persecuted- the Christians or the pagans? When have Christians done such acts? Concern the moderation of religion-here is what the Bible says: Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. In the above I see no room for modernizing (ie.alter/changing)the gospel to comform to modern belief of righ or wrong.To do so is a great mistake.
Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance
RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentancecd wrote: Judy did you know that M.Luther had Street Preachers put in oversize bird cages and hung up in the church even on Sunday morning while he and his followers worshiped God. I hope you understand that not all Anabaptists were good street preachers. Some of them were polygamists who did not recognize the marriage contract of Lutherans or Roman Catholics. Do you have a reference for us concerning these cages Luther used? David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.