Re: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir
John wrote: For all I know, he might think that arrogance can be a good thing - of the Lord. No, I do not think arrogance is a good thing, but I'm not sure you appreciate the difference between confidence in the Lord and arrogance. David's brother thought he was arrogant when he inquired about fighting Goliath, but I see such as faith and something to be emulated. 1 Samuel 17:28-29 (28) And Eliab his eldest brother heard when he spake unto the men; and Eliab's anger was kindled against David, and he said, Why camest thou down hither? and with whom hast thou left those few sheep in the wilderness? I know thy pride, and the naughtiness of thine heart; for thou art come down that thou mightest see the battle. (29) And David said, What have I now done? Is there not a cause? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir
Well what would you do if you were a great warrior who SAT on the sidelines everyday while Goliath Blasphemed God? Especially when God could not find a man so he sent a boy. How does that make the Parade Rest crowd look? DU 32 And Moses said unto the children of Gad and to the children of Reuben, Shall your brethren go to war, and shall ye sit here? And wherefore discourage ye the heart of the children of Israel from going over into the land which the LORD hath given them? David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: For all I know, he might think that arrogance can be a good thing - of the Lord.No, I do not think arrogance is a good thing, but I'm not sure you appreciate the difference between confidence in the Lord and arrogance. David's brother thought he was arrogant when he inquired about fighting Goliath, but I see such as faith and something to be emulated.1 Samuel 17:28-29(28) And Eliab his eldest brother heard when he spake unto the men; and Eliab's anger was kindled against David, and he said, Why camest thou down hither? and with whom hast thou left those few sheep in the wilderness? I know thy pride, and the naughtiness of thine heart; for thou art come down that thou mightest see the battle.(29) And David said, What have I now done? Is there not a cause?Peace be with you.David Miller. --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out!
RE: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir
JD, it never stops. You ARE judging DM by saying he is arrogant. (Would you be shocked if you knew that that is exactly how you were perceived???) THEN you go on to judge me. Interesting, coming from the man who loves to quote judge not so frequently. I agree with Davidlets discuss something worthwhile. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:49 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir I am not judging Daivd in his arrogance. For all I know, he might think that arrogance can be a good thing - of the Lord. As far as you not understanding what is posted -- I have seen that happen a number of times. I think it is because youstart thinking of your replywell before you have finished AND considered the post. Jd -Original Message- From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:09:33 -0500 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir David cannot see his arrogance (but who's judging?)JD, you are. You Linda rejects authority (go ahead -- moderator -- and tell me the last time you corrected her and received what you receive from the likes of me -- that would be something like understood.What on earth are you rambling about here??? Izzy
Re: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir
Given enough time, I could offer perhaps a hundred such examples, debunking Judy's claim that Lance is not concerned with substantive matters.
Izzy says of Mormonism:'Not worth 'fighting' about.' I'm thinking she might wish to qualify that as the nature of God and the Gospel are indeed worth very serious engagement ('fighting' aside).
Biblical thought/question. Nothing wrong with this.
Hey! Who wants to go on a 'Lost Books of the Bible' hunt? eh?
Lance disagrees with the Mormon?s claim of lost NT Books - or, at least, that such a claim has anything to do with the establishment of their World Religion.
'We are whole people living whole lives before a holy God.' Thedichotomization issue is central. Thanks for raising it! Please do notforward this message to Tim Horton's.Lance agreeing with Miller
Yes to #1. No to #2. I believe you to be a faithful child of God who demonstrates more diligence than most of those I've met.
A comment addressed to Judy Taylor.
Jt:Do you have a friend who, on an issue of some substance, believes other than you do? If you are praying for one another over this then, how is there to be a satisfactory resolution?
A question ask by Lance that seems to be a good question
Nine times out of ten, not unlike in marriage or friendship, we accept one another including the distinctives. I sense that that is what you do also, Linda. I saw a yound man last evening, characterized by his mother as 'my dirty sweet boy'. His 'dirtyness' was swallowed up in the ontological sweetness within Mom and, in the young man.
Also yesterday, I had the pleasure of talking with someone who sees both more and better than most I know (ironically an optometrist). In her case I practice more deference than is normal for me due to the perceived presence of God's Spirit.
Lance believes in the Holy Spirit.
Dave:IFF 'orthodoxy' has any intrinsic meaning whatsoever then, you are not.This consideration might be based alone on the answer to the question posedby Jesus Himself: 'Who do people say that I am?' This could not but placeyou, and 'yours', in the camp of anti-orthodox Given this, I would notconsider your anti-christian (in the sense of 'orthodox') posts to be in anyway slanderous any more than I would a Muslim who proceded to speak of Jesusout of his Koranic understanding.It is IMO possible to preach an anti-christ message and live a genuinelychristian life.(We all do). This being said You know how it works - thosewho win the war get to hold war c
rimes trials.
A substantive response by Lance. Food for thought whether you agree or not.
Re: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir
These quotes make my point JD, especially the last one
... You and he seem to like the word substantive. jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:43:58 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Given enough time, I could offer perhaps a hundred such examples,
debunking Judy's claim that Lance is not concerned with
substantive matters.
I didn't say Lance was not concerned with matters
he thinks substantive. I said he was not rooted and grounded
in God's Word - HUGE difference.
Izzy says of Mormonism:'Not worth
'fighting' about.' I'm thinking she might wish to qualify that as the nature
of God and the Gospel are indeed worth very serious engagement ('fighting'
aside).
Biblical thought/question. Nothing wrong with this.
Hey! Who wants to go on a 'Lost
Books of the Bible' hunt? eh?
Lance disagrees with the Mormon?s
claim of lost NT Books - or, at least, that such a claim has
anything to do with the establishment of their World Religion.
'We are
whole people living whole lives before a holy God.' The dichotomization issue
is central. Thanks for raising it! Please do not forward this message to Tim
Horton's.Lance agreeing with MillerYes to #1. No to #2. I believe you to be a faithful child of God who demonstrates more diligence than most of those I've met.
A comment addressed to Judy Taylor.
Jt:Do you have a friend who, on an issue of some substance, believes other than you
do? If you are praying for one another over this then, how is there to be a
satisfactory resolution?
A question ask
by Lance that seems to be a good question
Nine times out of ten, not unlike
in marriage or friendship, we accept one another including the distinctives. I
sense that that is what you do also, Linda. I saw a yound man last evening,
characterized by his mother as 'my dirty sweet boy'. His 'dirtyness' was
swallowed up in the ontological sweetness within
Mom and, in the young man.
Also yesterday, I had the pleasure
of talking with someone who sees both more and better than most I know
(ironically an optometrist). In her case I practice more deference than is
normal for me due to the perceived presence of God's
Spirit.
Lance believes in the Holy
Spirit.
Dave:IFF
'orthodoxy' has any intrinsic meaning whatsoever then, you are not.
This consideration might be based alone on the answer to the question posed by
Jesus Himself: 'Who do people say that I am?' This could not but place you,
and 'yours', in the camp of anti-orthodox Given this, I would not consider
your anti-christian (in the sense of 'orthodox') posts to be in any way
slanderous any more than I would a Muslim who proceded to speak of Jesus out
of his Koranic understanding.It is IMO
possible to preach an anti-christ message and live a genuinely christian
life.(We all do). This being said You know how it works - those who win
the war get to hold war crimes trials.
A substantive response by Lance. Food for thought whether you agree or
not.
RE: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir
David cannot see his arrogance (but who's judging?)JD, you are. You Linda rejects authority (go ahead -- moderator -- and tell me the last time you "corrected" her and received what you receive from the likes of me -- that would be something like "understood."What on earth are you rambling about here??? Izzy
Re: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir
I am not judging Daivd in his arrogance. For all I know, he might think that arrogance can be a good thing - of the Lord. As far as you not understanding what is posted -- I have seen that happen a number of times. I think it is because youstart thinking of your "reply"well before you have finished AND considered the post. Jd-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:09:33 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir David cannot see his arrogance (but who's judging?)JD, you are. You Linda rejects authority (go ahead -- moderator -- and tell me the last time you "corrected" her and received what you receive from the likes of me -- that would be something like "understood."What on earth are you rambling about here??? Izzy
