Re: [Tutor] Python books
On 10/11/12 01:18, Ed Owens wrote: Please start new threads with a fresh mail. On threaded readers this gets lost under a previous topic called Question... Dawson, which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python library? I would like to have: A command reference for the basic library. O'Reilly's Nutshell book or the Pocket Reference or Beasleys Essential Reference. But mostly I just use the built in help() system... A comprehensive How to course for the basic library. There is a best practice Python 'Recipes' book, but there is a much bigger resource on ActiveState's site. Graphics in Python Depends on the tookit. For GUIs there are books on Tkinter, wxPython, PyQt and (I think) pyGTk. There are more general books on things like R and GNU plot. Theres also pygame and things like OpenGL. It all depends on what kind of graphics and your favoured toolkit. Too hard to recommend anything specific. Data Management in Python I don't know of anything specific although a lot of the general tutorials include a chapter on the Python DBI interface. But the biggest thing here is learning SQL... Using the internet with Python Python Network Programming by Goerzen. (maybe Real Time(ish) Python) Don't know of anything here. The (ish) is the killer, you can't really do too much hard real-time in Python... A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together I would have recommended Python -How to Program by the Deitels but I don't know if its been updated so is now quite old. If you can pick up a cheap second hand copy its a good broad top level intro to all of the topics above. Its the only one I've seen that covers everything in your list except real-time. But it was very expensive. That's my list :-) Of course I cover most of it in my online tutorial too. -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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The Head First... series of books (O'Reilly Press) adopts a wonderful, intuitive work-along format; of particular interest [to you] would be Head First Python by Paul Barry. From the virtual desk of Lowell Tackett From: Ed Owens eowens0...@gmx.com To: tutor@python.org Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: [Tutor] Python books I've been trying to learn Python, writing a Blackjack program. Seems that's a common problem for learning. I'm not in a class or school, just working on my own. I've been working in Python 2.7, and considering moving up to 3.x. My programming background is ancient, having done most of my programming in FORTRAN. I have been using free internet resources to learn, mostly Google searches on syntax, and their free courses. I have the basic game done: dealing from a shoe of multiple decks, splits, betting, etc. and started to work on the harder parts such as graphics of the table with cards, managing record keeping, and so on. There seem to be a plethora of packages and options, many of them outside of the standard Python installation. Plus, I'm still discovering how to do things with the standard library. I need more structure and organization! I have one book, Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner by Dawson, which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python library? I would like to have: A command reference for the basic library. A comprehensive How to course for the basic library. Graphics in Python Data Management in Python Using the internet with Python (maybe Real Time(ish) Python) A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together I realize that this is outside of the help with this code request, but I would value your advice. Ed O ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Hi, On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:13 PM, wesley chun wes...@gmail.com wrote: there is no one single book that has all you're seeking, however you can probably find one or two that may suit your fancy in these Python reading lists that i made earlier this year: http://goo.gl/i4u0R note that the 3rd set of books are some of the references that you're seeking. best of luck! --wesley On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Ed Owens eowens0...@gmx.com wrote: I've been trying to learn Python, writing a Blackjack program. Seems that's a common problem for learning. I'm not in a class or school, just working on my own. I've been working in Python 2.7, and considering moving up to 3.x. My programming background is ancient, having done most of my programming in FORTRAN. I have been using free internet resources to learn, mostly Google searches on syntax, and their free courses. I have the basic game done: dealing from a shoe of multiple decks, splits, betting, etc. and started to work on the harder parts such as graphics of the table with cards, managing record keeping, and so on. There seem to be a plethora of packages and options, many of them outside of the standard Python installation. Plus, I'm still discovering how to do things with the standard library. I need more structure and organization! I have one book, Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner by Dawson, which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python library? I would like to have: A command reference for the basic library. A comprehensive How to course for the basic library. Graphics in Python Data Management in Python Using the internet with Python (maybe Real Time(ish) Python) A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together I realize that this is outside of the help with this code request, but I would value your advice. Ed O First book I highly recommend Learn Python the Hard Way http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ It's a great book which will get you going with python. It also has video companion which could come handy since you are learning on your own. Next book I would look at is Core Python Programming http://www.amazon.com/Core-Python-Programming-2nd-Edition/dp/0132269937/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1352566105sr=8-1keywords=Core+python+programming I used the first edition and I liked how it covers a lot of areas of python and most of what's on your list. Good luck with your study and have fun doing it Laszlo ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - A computer never does what you want... only what you tell it. +wesley chun : wescpy at gmail : @wescpy Python training consulting : http://CyberwebConsulting.com Core Python books : http://CorePython.com Python blog: http://wescpy.blogspot.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] Python books
I've been trying to learn Python, writing a Blackjack program. Seems that's a common problem for learning. I'm not in a class or school, just working on my own. I've been working in Python 2.7, and considering moving up to 3.x. My programming background is ancient, having done most of my programming in FORTRAN. I have been using free internet resources to learn, mostly Google searches on syntax, and their free courses. I have the basic game done: dealing from a shoe of multiple decks, splits, betting, etc. and started to work on the harder parts such as graphics of the table with cards, managing record keeping, and so on. There seem to be a plethora of packages and options, many of them outside of the standard Python installation. Plus, I'm still discovering how to do things with the standard library. I need more structure and organization! I have one book, Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner by Dawson, which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python library? I would like to have: A command reference for the basic library. A comprehensive How to course for the basic library. Graphics in Python Data Management in Python Using the internet with Python (maybe Real Time(ish) Python) A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together I realize that this is outside of the help with this code request, but I would value your advice. Ed O ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Python books
there is no one single book that has all you're seeking, however you can probably find one or two that may suit your fancy in these Python reading lists that i made earlier this year: http://goo.gl/i4u0R note that the 3rd set of books are some of the references that you're seeking. best of luck! --wesley On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Ed Owens eowens0...@gmx.com wrote: I've been trying to learn Python, writing a Blackjack program. Seems that's a common problem for learning. I'm not in a class or school, just working on my own. I've been working in Python 2.7, and considering moving up to 3.x. My programming background is ancient, having done most of my programming in FORTRAN. I have been using free internet resources to learn, mostly Google searches on syntax, and their free courses. I have the basic game done: dealing from a shoe of multiple decks, splits, betting, etc. and started to work on the harder parts such as graphics of the table with cards, managing record keeping, and so on. There seem to be a plethora of packages and options, many of them outside of the standard Python installation. Plus, I'm still discovering how to do things with the standard library. I need more structure and organization! I have one book, Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner by Dawson, which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python library? I would like to have: A command reference for the basic library. A comprehensive How to course for the basic library. Graphics in Python Data Management in Python Using the internet with Python (maybe Real Time(ish) Python) A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together I realize that this is outside of the help with this code request, but I would value your advice. Ed O __**_ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/tutorhttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - A computer never does what you want... only what you tell it. +wesley chun : wescpy at gmail : @wescpy Python training consulting : http://CyberwebConsulting.com Core Python books : http://CorePython.com Python blog: http://wescpy.blogspot.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Srinidhi Rao srinidhi...@gmail.com wrote I am a beginner here want to explore python, Hi, are you a beginner to programming or just to Python? There are many good books for those converting from other languages, there are not so many for those starting from scratch. To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is and also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x... Most books deal with one otr the other, I don't know of any that compare the two. My online tutorlial is availavble for both and by comparing versions you would get some idea. But the best way is to read the Python v3 Whats New pages... If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer for the DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop. I'm not sure what you are looking for here. Python and C data structures are very different. Python works at a much higher level, abstract concept and C works at a low level, close to memory. Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books or are you OK with web based resources? HTH, -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com wrote: Srinidhi Rao srinidhi...@gmail.com wrote I am a beginner here want to explore python, Hi, are you a beginner to programming or just to Python? There are many good books for those converting from other languages, there are not so many for those starting from scratch. To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is and also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x... Most books deal with one otr the other, I don't know of any that compare the two. My online tutorlial is availavble for both and by comparing versions you would get some idea. But the best way is to read the Python v3 Whats New pages... If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer for the DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop. I'm not sure what you are looking for here. Python and C data structures are very different. Python works at a much higher level, abstract concept and C works at a low level, close to memory. Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books or are you OK with web based resources? Hi Alan Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books or are you OK with web based resources? What exactly is dead tree book. sounds interesting Thanks Kaushal ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books or are you OK with web based resources? What exactly is dead tree book. sounds interesting Paper is made from dead trees... :-) Alan Gauld Author of the Learn To Program website http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Kaushal Shriyan kaushalshri...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com wrote: Srinidhi Rao srinidhi...@gmail.com wrote I am a beginner here want to explore python, Hi, are you a beginner to programming or just to Python? There are many good books for those converting from other languages, there are not so many for those starting from scratch. To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is and also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x... Most books deal with one otr the other, I don't know of any that compare the two. My online tutorlial is availavble for both and by comparing versions you would get some idea. But the best way is to read the Python v3 Whats New pages... If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer for the DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop. I'm not sure what you are looking for here. Python and C data structures are very different. Python works at a much higher level, abstract concept and C works at a low level, close to memory. Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books or are you OK with web based resources? Hi Alan Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books or are you OK with web based resources? What exactly is dead tree book. sounds interesting Thanks Kaushal Kaushal, dead tree book is the normal (printed) physical book you buy from a bookshop. -- Evans ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Evans Anyokwu onyx...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Kaushal Shriyan kaushalshri...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com wrote: Srinidhi Rao srinidhi...@gmail.com wrote I am a beginner here want to explore python, Hi, are you a beginner to programming or just to Python? There are many good books for those converting from other languages, there are not so many for those starting from scratch. To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is and also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x... Most books deal with one otr the other, I don't know of any that compare the two. My online tutorlial is availavble for both and by comparing versions you would get some idea. But the best way is to read the Python v3 Whats New pages... If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer for the DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop. I'm not sure what you are looking for here. Python and C data structures are very different. Python works at a much higher level, abstract concept and C works at a low level, close to memory. Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books or are you OK with web based resources? Hi Alan Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books or are you OK with web based resources? What exactly is dead tree book. sounds interesting Thanks Kaushal Kaushal, dead tree book is the normal (printed) physical book you buy from a bookshop. -- Evans Thanks Evans,Alan, I learnt a new thing today :-) ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Hello Pythoners', I am a beginner here want to explore python, thinking this is the best place to start with, I request you experts to help me become one... To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is and also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x... If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer for the DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop. Kindly help me find a kindle(literary) :) Thanks and Regards. || SRX || ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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I'd recommend Core Python Programming by Wesley Chun.. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Dayo Adewunmi contactd...@gmail.comwrote: chinmaya wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sudhanshu gautam sudhanshu9...@gmail.com mailto:sudhanshu9...@gmail.com wrote: I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and swaroop but not satisfied . so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org mailto:Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor I would say start with python tutorial, its nice decent starting material. There is no better way to learn language than to practice it as you read. Most of the tutorials out there are not written for 3.0, so you may want to install 2.6. I also recommend Dive Into python, its very beginner friendly, but remember it does not cover all (not all major) libraries never-the-less its one of the best beginner tutorial. Also install ipython its very powerful. And once you learn the interface its very easy to find documentation and library references. Also you can look at 100s of python videos in showmedo.com http://showmedo.com -- chinmaya sn ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor I'm currently reading Think Python http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/thinkpython.html Regards Dayo --- ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Lloyd Dube ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] python books
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sudhanshu gautam sudhanshu9...@gmail.comwrote: I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and swaroop but not satisfied . so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor I would say start with python tutorial, its nice decent starting material. There is no better way to learn language than to practice it as you read. Most of the tutorials out there are not written for 3.0, so you may want to install 2.6. I also recommend Dive Into python, its very beginner friendly, but remember it does not cover all (not all major) libraries never-the-less its one of the best beginner tutorial. Also install ipython its very powerful. And once you learn the interface its very easy to find documentation and library references. Also you can look at 100s of python videos in showmedo.com -- chinmaya sn ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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chinmaya wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sudhanshu gautam sudhanshu9...@gmail.com mailto:sudhanshu9...@gmail.com wrote: I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and swaroop but not satisfied . so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org mailto:Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor I would say start with python tutorial, its nice decent starting material. There is no better way to learn language than to practice it as you read. Most of the tutorials out there are not written for 3.0, so you may want to install 2.6. I also recommend Dive Into python, its very beginner friendly, but remember it does not cover all (not all major) libraries never-the-less its one of the best beginner tutorial. Also install ipython its very powerful. And once you learn the interface its very easy to find documentation and library references. Also you can look at 100s of python videos in showmedo.com http://showmedo.com -- chinmaya sn ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor I'm currently reading Think Python http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/thinkpython.html Regards Dayo --- ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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It's unlikely you are going to find a pdf on Python that's suitable for beginners. Do you mean pdf or a digital book? There are Python books in digital form on the web. I'm not quite sure how it works, but I know of at least one public library has them. I think it works that if you have a library card, then you can get web access to read the book on-line. I think this operates at a college level too. Consider Python for Absolute Beginners. If you are pressed for money, go to a college bookstore and see if you can find it used, probably $18 USD used (I know by experience! I do not own it or have done much more than browse a few pages of it.). I know of one university here that uses it. It is not likely that it would be used for a computer science (CS) classes, but I suspect there are students there in non-CS classes who might need to use Python. For example, engineers, math-majors, elementary statistics classes, and even upper-level astronomy classes. One can often get a good sense of a book by going to Amazon. They have a Look-Inside feature that allows you to browse parts of many books. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet All the neutrons, and protons in the human body occupy a cube whose side is 5.52*10**-6 meters (tiny!). That adds up to a 150 pound person. It's not a surprise that we are mostly space. (Calculation by WTW) ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.netwrote: It's unlikely you are going to find a pdf on Python that's suitable for beginners. Do you mean pdf or a digital book? There are Python books in digital form on the web. I'm not quite sure how it works, but I know of at least one public library has them. I think it works that if you have a library card, then you can get web access to read the book on-line. I think this operates at a college level too. snip Snake Wrangling for Kids is a perfectly good pdf for beginners (both to programming and python). I'd say the same about Think like a computer scientist - http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/thinkpython.html But maybe that's just me :P -Wayne ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and swaroop but not satisfied . so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also if you like a conversational style and know at least one programming language, i've written a pretty popular book with the Python crowd (see below). you can find it pretty much anywhere here in the US. if you happen to be in Southeast Asia, then you can pick it up from one of the retailers out there. in particular, here are at least 4 places in India: http://www.cb-india.com/proddetail.asp?prod=11266 http://www.nbcindia.com/Descriptions.asp?title_id=123 http://www.sapnaonline.com/MoreInfoBK.aspx?lcID=EBK0067672 http://www.flipkart.com/books/TU23FI6YAB.html it is also available in PDF format if you subscribe to O'Reilly's Safari service. best wishes! -- wesley - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Core Python Programming, Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001 Python Fundamentals, Prentice Hall, (c)2009 http://corepython.com wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com python training and technical consulting cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca http://cyberwebconsulting.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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sudhanshu gautam sudhanshu9...@gmail.com wrote I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and swaroop but not satisfied . so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also Does it have to be in PDF? There are many, many excellent Python web sites with lots of information if you can use HTML. The most obvious starting points for you would be the official Python tutorial and Dive Into Python and also, maybe, the Thinking in Python web book. FWIW my tutorial is also available in PDF, but if you have read the other resources it is likely too basic for you. -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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I know it's not in PDF, but I thought it would be worth mentioning Python for Software Design: How to Think Like a Computer Scientisthttp://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/index.html. I discovered this exactly a week after it was released, ordered it, and have been extremely happy with it so far. I am a student currently learning Java (unfortunately) and am really enjoying the original, knowledgeable examples and good presentation this book has to offer. Definitely one of my better book purchases, and significantly better than the Python Bible if I remember correctly. -Ian On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.comwrote: sudhanshu gautam sudhanshu9...@gmail.com wrote I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and swaroop but not satisfied . so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also Does it have to be in PDF? There are many, many excellent Python web sites with lots of information if you can use HTML. The most obvious starting points for you would be the official Python tutorial and Dive Into Python and also, maybe, the Thinking in Python web book. FWIW my tutorial is also available in PDF, but if you have read the other resources it is likely too basic for you. -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] python books
I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and swaroop but not satisfied . so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Take a look at Useless python http://www.uselesspython.com/ On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:37 AM, sudhanshu gautam sudhanshu9...@gmail.comwrote: I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and swaroop but not satisfied . so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Cheers, Vishwajeet http://www.singhvishwajeet.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] Python books on sale
For anyone interested in a copy of Wesley Chun's recently updated book Core Python Programming, it is 50% off at bookpool.com at the moment: http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0132269937 Also the TurboGears book is 51% off: http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0132433885 Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Also the TurboGears book is 51% off: http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0132433885 FWIW I've just finished this one and its pretty good but full of bad typos and inconsistencies(*). If you bear with it and type in the examples it starts to become obvious where the errors are. It's a lot better than trying to figure out TurboGears from the online docs though. (*) Hopefully a second printing should improve things significantly. HTH, -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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-Original Message- Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Also the TurboGears book is 51% off: http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0132433885 Safari(http://safari.oreilly.com) has both the TurboGears book and Core Python book, so you can check them out before deciding if you want the dead tree version. Mike ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Hi, I want to purchase a python book but confused of which authur?I need suggestion. How is Teach yoursef python in 24 hours by Ivan van laningham? Regards, Govind ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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govind goyal wrote: Hi, I want to purchase a python book but confused of which authur?I need suggestion. How is Teach yoursef python in 24 hours by Ivan van laningham? Do you have any programming background or is Python your first programming language? Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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govind goyal wrote: hi, In regards to programming language I know C,C++ and little of perl syntax. Learning Python is good for people with some programming background. Dive into Python is popular but IMO it focuses too much on flashy features and not enough on the basics. Beginning Python and Core Python Programming are also good choices. These and other books listed here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntroductoryBooks Good online resources here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers Teach yoursef python in 24 hours is old and gets very poor reviews on Amazon.com. Kent On 2/7/07, *Kent Johnson* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: govind goyal wrote: Hi, I want to purchase a python book but confused of which authur?I need suggestion. How is Teach yoursef python in 24 hours by Ivan van laningham? Do you have any programming background or is Python your first programming language? Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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govind goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I want to purchase a python book but confused of which authur? I need suggestion. How is Teach yoursef python in 24 hours by Ivan van laningham? Its aimed at the beginning programmer with no knowlege of other programming languages. It is based on the very old version 1.5.1 of Python. It is a tutorial not a reference. OTOH I found it quite an accessible book, and particularly good on the Tkinter GUI framework, with 3 full chapters. And if you are interested in Mayan calendars and Python it's essential reading. And the Mandelbrot example is fun too. Given your other post I'd reckon that Learning Python or Core Python might be better bets. Both will last longer as references after you know the basics. I assume you have already tackled the official Python web tutorial which is execellent? HTH, -- Alan Gauld Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Alan Gauld wrote: And if you are interested in Mayan calendars and Python it's essential reading. I think this should be nominated for QOTW. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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The best book I found was python programming for the absolute beginner by Michael Dawson. I would strongly recommend it. The only annoying thing is that he uses a games wrapper called livewires, which he modifies from the original but keeps the same name, which does not seem very clever to me. So if you want to have one program with the original wrapper and one program with his then you have a slight problem. ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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The best book I found was python programming for the absolute beginner by Michael Dawson. I would strongly recommend it. The only annoying thing is that he uses a games wrapper called livewires, which he modifies from the original but keeps the same name, which does not seem very clever to me. So if you want to have one program with the original wrapper and one program with his then you have a slight problem. ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Hi David, The answer depends. If you are looking for free resources, I would recommend checking out: http://www.greenteapress.com However, if you are looking for a professional-grade book, then I would recommend Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner. I, personally speaking, found this book to be an excellent resource -- I would highly recommend it. Byron --- David Stotijn wrote: Hi, I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the books I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version of Python (e.g. 2.3). Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles and methods used in those books outdated by now? Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines and alot of example code. Do you have any tips? Thanks in advance! David ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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David Holland wrote: The best book I found was python programming for the absolute beginner by Michael Dawson. I would strongly recommend it. Yes, I would agree 100%. Michael Dawson does an excellent job teaching Python to beginners. (Most others don't come close to his book, in my opinion.) Byron --- ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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On 10/18/05, Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Stotijn wrote: Hi, I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the books I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version of Python (e.g. 2.3). Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles and methods used in those books outdated by now? 2.3 is not that old. The basics of Python change slowly, especially the beginner-level stuff. The later versions introduce refinements, convenience features and new, advanced stuff; they don't generally break much or change the overall 'feel' of Python. I don't know if there are any books out yet that cover 2.4. Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines and alot of example code. Do you have any tips? I like _Learning Python_ david, as others have said, for beginners, the version of Python that's used has less impact than for more advanced users. look for any book that focuses on teaching you the language rather than just being a tutorial for the features in the latest releases. if you are completely new to programming, as many are here, then the recommendation for Dawson's Python for the Absolute Beginner seems to be a very popular choice. i recently picked up the book to evaluate to use as the textbook for my intro to programming class, but haven't had a chance to really go through it yet. it seems to have surpassed the popular Learn to Program Using Python by Alan Gauld, which is slightly dated but also a good choice. there is also the How to Think like a Computer Scientist series, which aims at teaching programming to high schoolers, and is available for a number of languages: Python, Java, C++, and Logo... see http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCS Dawson's book targets games. there are other intro to programming books on my shelf with alternative targets: Python Programming by John Zelle is gearsed towards learning Computer Science as an undergraduate, and Mark Guzdial's Intro to Computing and Programming in Python has a graphics/multimedia approach. and on the side, i'd recommend Chris Fehily's Python visual quickstart guide because it has lots of pictures and serves as a good reference for a beginner. books such as Learning Python and Core Python Programming are geared towards those who already know how to program. some have noted that Learning Python targets C programmers more than others, but Core Python doesn't assume anything other than knowing at least one other high-level language. and i *definitely* use Core Python when teaching my standard Python courses. ;-) i'd suggest taking a look through some of the titles discussed on this thread in a bookstore if possible to see what you like, and also check out the reviews on Amazon as well as Python book reviews online. hope this helps! --wesley - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Core Python Programming, Prentice Hall, (c)2006,2001 http://corepython.com wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca http://cyberwebconsulting.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] Python books: buying advice needed
Hi, I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the books I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version of Python (e.g. 2.3). Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles and methods used in those books outdated by now? Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines and alot of example code. Do you have any tips? Thanks in advance! David ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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2005/10/18, David Stotijn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the books I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version of Python (e.g. 2.3). Python 2.3 is not so old... :) Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles and methods used in those books outdated by now? Most of the books covers 2.3 ATM I guess Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines and alot of example code. Do you have any tips? I found very useful the book of Magnus Lie Hatland Practical Python in my opinion very well done, I've heard anyway that he is going to publish a new revision. cheers -- Gian Mario Tagliaretti PyGTK GUI programming http://www.parafernalia.org/pygtk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Python books: buying advice needed
David Stotijn wrote: Hi, I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the books I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version of Python (e.g. 2.3). Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles and methods used in those books outdated by now? 2.3 is not that old. The basics of Python change slowly, especially the beginner-level stuff. The later versions introduce refinements, convenience features and new, advanced stuff; they don't generally break much or change the overall 'feel' of Python. I don't know if there are any books out yet that cover 2.4. Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines and alot of example code. Do you have any tips? I like _Learning Python_ Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Hey guys, On and off, I've been looking through the Python tutorials and I've been following the Josh Cogliati tutorial. While good for the basics, I find them to be a little incomplete (i.e: Lack of answers/followups for the excercises, etc). While this might not be a major issue, I am new to Python and it is a little offputting. So, I'm prepared to invest in a Python book of some sort that will help me master the language. Does anyone have any recommendations? Or perhaps tutorials? I have limited programming experience (a little dabbling in C++). -Kristiano Ang ~Macintosh addict~ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Kristiano Ang wrote: So, I'm prepared to invest in a Python book of some sort that will help me master the language. Does anyone have any recommendations? Or perhaps tutorials? I have limited programming experience (a little dabbling in C++). For a how-to-learn Python book, it's hard to beat Learning Python ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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On 6/12/05, Kristiano Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, On and off, I've been looking through the Python tutorials and I've been following the Josh Cogliati tutorial. While good for the basics, I find them to be a little incomplete (i.e: Lack of answers/followups for the excercises, etc). While this might not be a major issue, I am new to Python and it is a little offputting. So, I'm prepared to invest in a Python book of some sort that will help me master the language. Does anyone have any recommendations? Or perhaps tutorials? I have limited programming experience (a little dabbling in C++). -Kristiano Ang ~Macintosh addict~ I'm a fan of the O'Reilly books - Learning Python - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lpython2/ Python Standard Library - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pythonsl/ (of which an online PDF version is available at http://www.effbot.org/librarybook/) HTH Adam -- http://www.monkeez.org PGP key: 0x7111B833 ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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Hello Terry, Practical Python is really good too, although I chose Learning Python over it to teach my class this month. Sunday, June 12, 2005, 9:00:34 AM, you wrote: TC On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Kristiano Ang wrote: So, I'm prepared to invest in a Python book of some sort that will help me master the language. Does anyone have any recommendations? Or perhaps tutorials? I have limited programming experience (a little dabbling in C++). TC For a how-to-learn Python book, it's hard to beat Learning Python TC ___ TC Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org TC http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Best regards, Chuck ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor