Re: [Tutor] Python books

2012-11-10 Thread Alan Gauld

On 10/11/12 01:18, Ed Owens wrote:

Please start new threads with a fresh mail. On threaded readers this 
gets lost under a previous topic called Question...


 Dawson, which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python

library?  I would like to have:

A command reference for the basic library.


O'Reilly's Nutshell book or the Pocket Reference or Beasleys Essential 
Reference. But mostly I just use the built in help() system...



A comprehensive How to course for the basic library.


There is a best practice Python 'Recipes' book, but there is a much 
bigger resource on ActiveState's site.



Graphics in Python


Depends on the tookit. For GUIs there are books on Tkinter, wxPython, 
PyQt and (I think) pyGTk. There are more general books on things like R 
and GNU plot. Theres also pygame and things like OpenGL. It all depends 
on what kind of graphics and your favoured toolkit. Too hard to 
recommend anything specific.



Data Management in Python


I don't know of anything specific although a lot of the general 
tutorials include a chapter on the Python DBI interface. But the biggest 
thing here is learning SQL...



Using the internet with Python


Python Network Programming by Goerzen.


(maybe Real Time(ish) Python)


Don't know of anything here. The (ish) is the killer, you can't really 
do too much hard real-time in Python...



A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together


I would have recommended Python -How to Program by the Deitels but I 
don't know if its been updated so is now quite old. If you can pick up a 
cheap second hand copy its a good broad top level intro to all of the 
topics above. Its the only one I've seen that covers everything in your 
list except real-time. But it was very expensive.


That's my list   :-)

Of course I cover most of it in my online tutorial too.
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Re: [Tutor] Python books

2012-11-10 Thread Lowell Tackett
The Head First... series of books (O'Reilly Press) adopts a wonderful, 
intuitive work-along format; of particular interest [to you] would be Head 
First Python by Paul Barry.



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 From: Ed Owens eowens0...@gmx.com
To: tutor@python.org 
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 8:18 PM
Subject: [Tutor] Python books
  
I've been trying to learn Python, writing a Blackjack program. Seems that's a 
common problem for learning.  I'm not in a class or school, just working on my 
own.  I've been working in Python 2.7, and considering moving up to 3.x.  My 
programming background is ancient, having done most of my programming in 
FORTRAN. I have been using free internet resources to learn, mostly Google 
searches on syntax, and their free courses.

I have the basic game done: dealing from a shoe of multiple decks, splits, 
betting, etc.  and started to work on the harder parts such as graphics of the 
table with cards, managing record keeping, and so on.  There seem to be a 
plethora of packages and options, many of them outside of the standard Python 
installation.  Plus, I'm still discovering how to do things with the standard 
library.  I need more structure and organization!

I have one book, Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner by Dawson, 
which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python library?  I would 
like to have:

A command reference for the basic library.
A comprehensive How to course for the basic library.
Graphics in Python
Data Management in Python
Using the internet with Python
(maybe Real Time(ish) Python)
A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together

I realize that this is outside of the help with this code request, but I 
would value your advice.

Ed O


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Re: [Tutor] Python books

2012-11-10 Thread lzantal
Hi,

On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:13 PM, wesley chun wes...@gmail.com wrote:

 there is no one single book that has all you're seeking, however you can 
 probably find one or two that may suit your fancy in these Python reading 
 lists that i made earlier this year: http://goo.gl/i4u0R
 
 note that the 3rd set of books are some of the references that you're seeking.
 
 best of luck!
 --wesley
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Ed Owens eowens0...@gmx.com wrote:
 I've been trying to learn Python, writing a Blackjack program. Seems that's 
 a common problem for learning.  I'm not in a class or school, just working 
 on my own.  I've been working in Python 2.7, and considering moving up to 
 3.x.  My programming background is ancient, having done most of my 
 programming in FORTRAN. I have been using free internet resources to learn, 
 mostly Google searches on syntax, and their free courses.
 
 I have the basic game done: dealing from a shoe of multiple decks, splits, 
 betting, etc.  and started to work on the harder parts such as graphics of 
 the table with cards, managing record keeping, and so on.  There seem to be 
 a plethora of packages and options, many of them outside of the standard 
 Python installation.  Plus, I'm still discovering how to do things with the 
 standard library.  I need more structure and organization!
 
 I have one book, Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner by Dawson, 
 which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python library?  I would 
 like to have:
 
 A command reference for the basic library.
 A comprehensive How to course for the basic library.
 Graphics in Python
 Data Management in Python
 Using the internet with Python
 (maybe Real Time(ish) Python)
 A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together
 
 I realize that this is outside of the help with this code request, but I 
 would value your advice.
 
 Ed O

First book I highly recommend Learn Python the Hard Way 
http://learnpythonthehardway.org/
It's a great book which will get you going with python. It also has video 
companion which could 
come handy since you are learning on your own.
Next book I would look at is Core Python Programming 
http://www.amazon.com/Core-Python-Programming-2nd-Edition/dp/0132269937/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1352566105sr=8-1keywords=Core+python+programming
I used the first edition and I liked how it covers a lot of areas of python and 
most of what's on your list.

Good luck with your study and have fun doing it

Laszlo


 
 
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[Tutor] Python books

2012-11-09 Thread Ed Owens
I've been trying to learn Python, writing a Blackjack program. Seems 
that's a common problem for learning.  I'm not in a class or school, 
just working on my own.  I've been working in Python 2.7, and 
considering moving up to 3.x.  My programming background is ancient, 
having done most of my programming in FORTRAN. I have been using free 
internet resources to learn, mostly Google searches on syntax, and their 
free courses.


I have the basic game done: dealing from a shoe of multiple decks, 
splits, betting, etc.  and started to work on the harder parts such as 
graphics of the table with cards, managing record keeping, and so on.  
There seem to be a plethora of packages and options, many of them 
outside of the standard Python installation.  Plus, I'm still 
discovering how to do things with the standard library.  I need more 
structure and organization!


I have one book, Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner by 
Dawson, which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python 
library?  I would like to have:


A command reference for the basic library.
A comprehensive How to course for the basic library.
Graphics in Python
Data Management in Python
Using the internet with Python
(maybe Real Time(ish) Python)
A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together

I realize that this is outside of the help with this code request, but 
I would value your advice.


Ed O


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Re: [Tutor] Python books

2012-11-09 Thread wesley chun
there is no one single book that has all you're seeking, however you can
probably find one or two that may suit your fancy in these Python reading
lists that i made earlier this year: http://goo.gl/i4u0R

note that the 3rd set of books are some of the references that you're
seeking.

best of luck!
--wesley


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Ed Owens eowens0...@gmx.com wrote:

 I've been trying to learn Python, writing a Blackjack program. Seems
 that's a common problem for learning.  I'm not in a class or school, just
 working on my own.  I've been working in Python 2.7, and considering moving
 up to 3.x.  My programming background is ancient, having done most of my
 programming in FORTRAN. I have been using free internet resources to learn,
 mostly Google searches on syntax, and their free courses.

 I have the basic game done: dealing from a shoe of multiple decks, splits,
 betting, etc.  and started to work on the harder parts such as graphics of
 the table with cards, managing record keeping, and so on.  There seem to be
 a plethora of packages and options, many of them outside of the standard
 Python installation.  Plus, I'm still discovering how to do things with the
 standard library.  I need more structure and organization!

 I have one book, Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner by Dawson,
 which is too plodding. Can you experts recommend a Python library?  I would
 like to have:

 A command reference for the basic library.
 A comprehensive How to course for the basic library.
 Graphics in Python
 Data Management in Python
 Using the internet with Python
 (maybe Real Time(ish) Python)
 A comprehensive Learn Python course that puts all this together

 I realize that this is outside of the help with this code request, but I
 would value your advice.

 Ed O


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Re: [Tutor] Python Books...*

2010-11-18 Thread Alan Gauld


Srinidhi Rao srinidhi...@gmail.com wrote


I am a beginner here want to explore python,


Hi, are you a beginner to programming or just to Python?
There are many good books for those converting from other languages,
there are not so many for those starting from scratch.

To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is 
and

also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x...


Most books deal with one otr the other, I don't know of any that
compare the two. My online tutorlial is availavble for both and by
comparing versions you would get some idea. But the best way
is to read the Python v3 Whats New pages...

If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer 
for the

DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop.


I'm not sure what you are looking for here. Python and C data
structures are very different. Python works at a much higher level,
abstract concept and C works at a low level, close to memory.

Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books
or are you OK with web based resources?

HTH,


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Re: [Tutor] Python Books...*

2010-11-18 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Srinidhi Rao srinidhi...@gmail.com wrote

 I am a beginner here want to explore python,

 Hi, are you a beginner to programming or just to Python?
 There are many good books for those converting from other languages,
 there are not so many for those starting from scratch.

 To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is and
 also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x...

 Most books deal with one otr the other, I don't know of any that
 compare the two. My online tutorlial is availavble for both and by
 comparing versions you would get some idea. But the best way
 is to read the Python v3 Whats New pages...

 If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer for
 the
 DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop.

 I'm not sure what you are looking for here. Python and C data
 structures are very different. Python works at a much higher level,
 abstract concept and C works at a low level, close to memory.

 Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books
 or are you OK with web based resources?

Hi Alan

 Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books
 or are you OK with web based resources?

What exactly is dead tree book. sounds interesting

Thanks

Kaushal
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Re: [Tutor] Python Books...*

2010-11-18 Thread ALAN GAULD
  Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type  e-books
  or are you OK with web based resources?
 
 What exactly is  dead tree book. sounds interesting

Paper is made from dead trees... :-)

 
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Re: [Tutor] Python Books...*

2010-11-18 Thread Evans Anyokwu
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Kaushal Shriyan
kaushalshri...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
  Srinidhi Rao srinidhi...@gmail.com wrote
 
  I am a beginner here want to explore python,
 
  Hi, are you a beginner to programming or just to Python?
  There are many good books for those converting from other languages,
  there are not so many for those starting from scratch.
 
  To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is and
  also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x...
 
  Most books deal with one otr the other, I don't know of any that
  compare the two. My online tutorlial is availavble for both and by
  comparing versions you would get some idea. But the best way
  is to read the Python v3 Whats New pages...
 
  If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer for
  the
  DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop.
 
  I'm not sure what you are looking for here. Python and C data
  structures are very different. Python works at a much higher level,
  abstract concept and C works at a low level, close to memory.
 
  Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books
  or are you OK with web based resources?

 Hi Alan

  Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books
  or are you OK with web based resources?

 What exactly is dead tree book. sounds interesting

 Thanks

 Kaushal


Kaushal, dead tree book is the normal (printed) physical book you buy from a
bookshop.

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Re: [Tutor] Python Books...*

2010-11-18 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Evans Anyokwu onyx...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Kaushal Shriyan kaushalshri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
  Srinidhi Rao srinidhi...@gmail.com wrote
 
  I am a beginner here want to explore python,
 
  Hi, are you a beginner to programming or just to Python?
  There are many good books for those converting from other languages,
  there are not so many for those starting from scratch.
 
  To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is
  and
  also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x...
 
  Most books deal with one otr the other, I don't know of any that
  compare the two. My online tutorlial is availavble for both and by
  comparing versions you would get some idea. But the best way
  is to read the Python v3 Whats New pages...
 
  If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer
  for
  the
  DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop.
 
  I'm not sure what you are looking for here. Python and C data
  structures are very different. Python works at a much higher level,
  abstract concept and C works at a low level, close to memory.
 
  Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books
  or are you OK with web based resources?

 Hi Alan

  Finally, do you explicitly want dead tree books or Kindle type e-books
  or are you OK with web based resources?

 What exactly is dead tree book. sounds interesting

 Thanks

 Kaushal


 Kaushal, dead tree book is the normal (printed) physical book you buy from a
 bookshop.

 --
 Evans


Thanks Evans,Alan, I learnt a new thing today :-)
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[Tutor] Python Books...*

2010-11-17 Thread Srinidhi Rao
Hello Pythoners',

I am a beginner here want to explore python, thinking this is the best place
to start with,
I request you experts to help me become one...

To Start with which is the best book to get a hang of what python is and
also provide some distinction between the Python 2.6 and 3.x...
If this question is relevant can any one suggest which book to refer for the
DataStructures(preferably in C) to have some backdrop.

Kindly help me find a kindle(literary) :)

Thanks and Regards.
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Re: [Tutor] python books

2009-04-26 Thread OkaMthembo
I'd recommend Core Python Programming by Wesley Chun..

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Dayo Adewunmi contactd...@gmail.comwrote:

 chinmaya wrote:



 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sudhanshu gautam 
 sudhanshu9...@gmail.com mailto:sudhanshu9...@gmail.com wrote:

I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python
Bible and swaroop but not satisfied .


so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also


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 I would say start with python tutorial, its nice decent starting material.
 There is no better way to learn language than to practice it as you read.
 Most of the tutorials out there are not written for 3.0, so you may want
 to install 2.6.
 I also recommend Dive Into python, its very beginner friendly, but
 remember
 it does not cover all (not all major) libraries never-the-less its one of
 the
 best beginner tutorial.

 Also install ipython its very powerful. And once you learn the interface
 its very easy to find documentation and library references.

 Also you can look at 100s of python videos in showmedo.com 
 http://showmedo.com


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Re: [Tutor] python books

2009-04-25 Thread chinmaya
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sudhanshu gautam
sudhanshu9...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible
 and swaroop but not satisfied .


 so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also


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I would say start with python tutorial, its nice decent starting material.
There is no better way to learn language than to practice it as you read.
Most of the tutorials out there are not written for 3.0, so you may want
to install 2.6.
I also recommend Dive Into python, its very beginner friendly, but remember
it does not cover all (not all major) libraries never-the-less its one of
the
best beginner tutorial.

Also install ipython its very powerful. And once you learn the interface
its very easy to find documentation and library references.

Also you can look at 100s of python videos in showmedo.com


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Re: [Tutor] python books

2009-04-25 Thread Dayo Adewunmi

chinmaya wrote:



On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sudhanshu gautam 
sudhanshu9...@gmail.com mailto:sudhanshu9...@gmail.com wrote:


I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python
Bible and swaroop but not satisfied .


so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also


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I would say start with python tutorial, its nice decent starting 
material.

There is no better way to learn language than to practice it as you read.
Most of the tutorials out there are not written for 3.0, so you may want
to install 2.6.
I also recommend Dive Into python, its very beginner friendly, but 
remember
it does not cover all (not all major) libraries never-the-less its one 
of the

best beginner tutorial.

Also install ipython its very powerful. And once you learn the interface
its very easy to find documentation and library references.

Also you can look at 100s of python videos in showmedo.com 
http://showmedo.com



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I'm currently reading Think Python 
http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/thinkpython.html


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Re: [Tutor] python books

2009-04-15 Thread Wayne Watson
It's unlikely you are going to find a pdf on Python that's suitable for 
beginners. Do you mean pdf or a digital book? There are Python books in 
digital form on the web. I'm not quite sure how it works, but I know of 
at least one public library has them. I think it works that if you have 
a library card, then you can get web access to read the book on-line. I 
think this operates at a college level too.


Consider Python for Absolute Beginners. If you are pressed for money, go 
to a college bookstore and see if you can find it used, probably $18 USD 
used (I know by experience! I do not own it or have done much more than 
browse a few pages of it.). I know of one university here that uses it. 
It is not likely that it would be used for a computer science (CS) 
classes, but I suspect there are students there in non-CS classes who 
might need to use Python. For example, engineers, math-majors, 
elementary statistics classes, and even upper-level astronomy classes. 
One can often get a good sense of a book by going to Amazon. They have a 
Look-Inside feature that allows you to browse parts of many books.


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Re: [Tutor] python books

2009-04-15 Thread W W
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Wayne Watson
sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 It's unlikely you are going to find a pdf on Python that's suitable for
 beginners. Do you mean pdf or a digital book? There are Python books in
 digital form on the web. I'm not quite sure how it works, but I know of at
 least one public library has them. I think it works that if you have a
 library card, then you can get web access to read the book on-line. I think
 this operates at a college level too. snip


Snake Wrangling for Kids is a perfectly good pdf for beginners (both to
programming and python). I'd say the same about Think like a computer
scientist - http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/thinkpython.html

But maybe that's just me :P
-Wayne
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Re: [Tutor] python books

2009-04-14 Thread wesley chun
 I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and 
 swaroop but not satisfied .


 so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also


if you like a conversational style and know at least one programming
language, i've written a pretty popular book with the Python crowd
(see below). you can find it pretty much anywhere here in the US. if
you happen to be in Southeast Asia, then you can pick it up from one
of the retailers out there. in particular, here are at least 4 places
in India:

http://www.cb-india.com/proddetail.asp?prod=11266
http://www.nbcindia.com/Descriptions.asp?title_id=123
http://www.sapnaonline.com/MoreInfoBK.aspx?lcID=EBK0067672
http://www.flipkart.com/books/TU23FI6YAB.html

it is also available in PDF format if you subscribe to O'Reilly's
Safari service.

best wishes!
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Core Python Programming, Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001
Python Fundamentals, Prentice Hall, (c)2009
http://corepython.com

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python training and technical consulting
cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca
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Re: [Tutor] python books

2009-04-14 Thread Alan Gauld


sudhanshu gautam sudhanshu9...@gmail.com wrote

I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible 
and

swaroop but not satisfied .

so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also


Does it have to be in PDF? There are many, many excellent Python web
sites with lots of information if you can use HTML.

The most obvious starting points for you would be the official
Python tutorial and Dive Into Python and also, maybe, the
Thinking in Python web book.

FWIW my tutorial is also available in PDF, but if you have read the other
resources it is likely too basic for you.


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Author of the Learn to Program web site
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Re: [Tutor] python books

2009-04-14 Thread Ian Egland
I know it's not in PDF, but I thought it would be worth mentioning Python
for Software Design: How to Think Like a Computer
Scientisthttp://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/index.html.
I discovered this exactly a week after it was released, ordered it, and have
been extremely happy with it so far. I am a student currently learning Java
(unfortunately) and am really enjoying the original, knowledgeable examples
and good presentation this book has to offer. Definitely one of my better
book purchases, and significantly better than the Python Bible if I remember
correctly.

-Ian

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.comwrote:


 sudhanshu gautam sudhanshu9...@gmail.com wrote

  I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible
 and
 swaroop but not satisfied .

 so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also


 Does it have to be in PDF? There are many, many excellent Python web
 sites with lots of information if you can use HTML.

 The most obvious starting points for you would be the official
 Python tutorial and Dive Into Python and also, maybe, the
 Thinking in Python web book.

 FWIW my tutorial is also available in PDF, but if you have read the other
 resources it is likely too basic for you.


 --
 Alan Gauld
 Author of the Learn to Program web site
 http://www.alan-g.me.uk/

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[Tutor] python books

2009-04-13 Thread sudhanshu gautam
I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible and
swaroop but not satisfied .


so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also
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Re: [Tutor] python books

2009-04-13 Thread vishwajeet singh
Take a look at Useless python http://www.uselesspython.com/

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:37 AM, sudhanshu gautam
sudhanshu9...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am new in python , so need a good books , previously read python Bible
 and swaroop but not satisfied .


 so tell me good books in pdf format those contents good problems also


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[Tutor] Python books on sale

2007-04-11 Thread Kent Johnson
For anyone interested in a copy of Wesley Chun's recently updated book 
Core Python Programming, it is 50% off at bookpool.com at the moment:
http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0132269937

Also the TurboGears book is 51% off:
http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0132433885

Kent
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Re: [Tutor] Python books on sale

2007-04-11 Thread Alan Gauld
Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 Also the TurboGears book is 51% off:
 http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0132433885

FWIW I've just finished this one and its pretty good but full of 
bad typos and inconsistencies(*). If you bear with it and type 
in the examples it starts to become obvious where the 
errors are. It's a lot better than trying to figure out TurboGears 
from the online docs though.

(*) Hopefully a second printing should improve things 
significantly.

HTH,

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Re: [Tutor] Python books on sale

2007-04-11 Thread Mike Hansen
 

 -Original Message-
 
 Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 
  Also the TurboGears book is 51% off:
  http://www.bookpool.com/sm/0132433885
 

Safari(http://safari.oreilly.com) has both the TurboGears book and Core
Python book, so you can check them out before deciding if you want the
dead tree version.

Mike 
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[Tutor] python books

2007-02-07 Thread govind goyal

Hi,

I want to purchase a python book but confused of which authur?I need
suggestion.
How is Teach yoursef python in 24 hours by Ivan van laningham?

Regards,
Govind
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Re: [Tutor] python books

2007-02-07 Thread Kent Johnson
govind goyal wrote:
 Hi,
  
 I want to purchase a python book but confused of which authur?I need 
 suggestion.
 How is Teach yoursef python in 24 hours by Ivan van laningham?

Do you have any programming background or is Python your first 
programming language?

Kent

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Re: [Tutor] python books

2007-02-07 Thread Kent Johnson
govind goyal wrote:
 hi,
  
 In regards to programming language I know C,C++ and little of perl syntax.

Learning Python is good for people with some programming background.
Dive into Python is popular but IMO it focuses too much on flashy
features and not enough on the basics. Beginning Python and Core
Python Programming are also good choices.

These and other books listed here:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntroductoryBooks

Good online resources here:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers

Teach yoursef python in 24 hours is old and gets very poor reviews on
Amazon.com.

Kent

 
 
  
 On 2/7/07, *Kent Johnson* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 govind goyal wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I want to purchase a python book but confused of which authur?I need
   suggestion.
   How is Teach yoursef python in 24 hours by Ivan van laningham?
 
 Do you have any programming background or is Python your first
 programming language?
 
 Kent
 
 



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Re: [Tutor] python books

2007-02-07 Thread Alan Gauld
govind goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 I want to purchase a python book but confused of which authur?
 I need suggestion.
 How is Teach yoursef python in 24 hours by Ivan van laningham?

Its aimed at the beginning programmer with no knowlege of 
other programming languages. It is based on the very old
version 1.5.1 of Python. It is a tutorial not a reference.

OTOH I found it quite an accessible book, and particularly 
good on the Tkinter GUI framework,  with 3 full chapters.
And if you are interested in Mayan calendars and Python 
it's essential reading. And the Mandelbrot example is fun too.

Given your other post I'd reckon that Learning Python or 
Core Python might be better bets. Both will last longer as 
references after you know the basics.

I assume you have already tackled the official Python 
web tutorial which is execellent?

HTH,

-- 
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Author of the Learn to Program web site
http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld

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Re: [Tutor] python books

2007-02-07 Thread Terry Carroll
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Alan Gauld wrote:

 And if you are interested in Mayan calendars and Python 
 it's essential reading. 

I think this should be nominated for QOTW.



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[Tutor] python books

2005-10-19 Thread David Holland
The best book I found was python programming for the
absolute beginner by Michael Dawson.  I would strongly
recommend it.
The only annoying thing is that he uses a games
wrapper called livewires, which he modifies from the
original but keeps the same name, which does not seem
very clever to me.  So if you want to have one program
with the original wrapper and one program with his
then you have a slight problem.



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[Tutor] python books

2005-10-19 Thread David Holland
The best book I found was python programming for the
absolute beginner by Michael Dawson.  I would strongly
recommend it.
The only annoying thing is that he uses a games
wrapper called livewires, which he modifies from the
original but keeps the same name, which does not seem
very clever to me.  So if you want to have one program
with the original wrapper and one program with his
then you have a slight problem.



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Re: [Tutor] Python books: buying advice needed

2005-10-19 Thread Byron
Hi David,

The answer depends.  If you are looking for free resources, I would 
recommend checking out:  http://www.greenteapress.com

However, if you are looking for a professional-grade book, then I would 
recommend Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner.  I, personally 
speaking, found this book to be an excellent resource -- I would highly 
recommend it.

Byron
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David Stotijn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the books 
 I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version of 
 Python (e.g. 2.3).
 Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles 
 and methods used in those books outdated by now?
 Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines 
 and alot of example code.
 
 Do you have any tips?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
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Re: [Tutor] python books

2005-10-19 Thread Byron
David Holland wrote:
 The best book I found was python programming for the
 absolute beginner by Michael Dawson.  I would strongly
 recommend it.


Yes, I would agree 100%.  Michael Dawson does an excellent job teaching 
Python to beginners.  (Most others don't come close to his book, in my 
opinion.)

Byron
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Re: [Tutor] Python books: buying advice needed

2005-10-19 Thread w chun
On 10/18/05, Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Stotijn wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the books
  I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version of
  Python (e.g. 2.3).
  Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles
  and methods used in those books outdated by now?

 2.3 is not that old. The basics of Python change slowly, especially the 
 beginner-level stuff. The later versions introduce refinements, convenience 
 features and new, advanced stuff; they don't generally break much or change 
 the overall 'feel' of Python. I don't know if there are any books out yet 
 that cover 2.4.

  Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines
  and alot of example code.
 
  Do you have any tips?

 I like _Learning Python_


david,

as others have said, for beginners, the version of Python that's used
has less impact than for more advanced users.  look for any book that
focuses on teaching you the language rather than just being a tutorial
for the features in the latest releases.

if you are completely new to programming, as many are here, then the
recommendation for Dawson's Python for the Absolute Beginner seems to
be a very popular choice.  i recently picked up the book to evaluate
to use as the textbook for my intro to programming class, but haven't
had a chance to really go through it yet.  it seems to have surpassed
the popular Learn to Program Using Python by Alan Gauld, which is
slightly dated but also a good choice.
there is also the How to Think like a Computer Scientist series, which
aims at teaching programming to high schoolers, and is available for a
number of languages: Python, Java, C++, and Logo... see
http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCS

Dawson's book targets games.  there are other intro to programming
books on my shelf with alternative targets:  Python Programming by
John Zelle is gearsed towards learning Computer Science as an
undergraduate, and Mark Guzdial's Intro to Computing and Programming
in Python has a graphics/multimedia approach.  and on the side, i'd
recommend Chris Fehily's Python visual quickstart guide because it has
lots of pictures and serves as a good reference for a beginner.

books such as Learning Python and Core Python Programming are geared
towards those who already know how to program.  some have noted that
Learning Python targets C programmers more than others, but Core
Python doesn't assume anything other than knowing at least one other
high-level language.  and i *definitely* use Core Python when teaching
my standard Python courses.  ;-)

i'd suggest taking a look through some of the titles discussed on this
thread in a bookstore if possible to see what you like, and also check
out the reviews on Amazon as well as Python book reviews online.

hope this helps!
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http://corepython.com

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[Tutor] Python books: buying advice needed

2005-10-18 Thread David Stotijn
Hi,

I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the
books I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version
of Python (e.g. 2.3).
Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles and methods used in those books outdated by now?
Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines and alot of example code. 

Do you have any tips?

Thanks in advance!

David

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Re: [Tutor] Python books: buying advice needed

2005-10-18 Thread Gian Mario Tagliaretti
2005/10/18, David Stotijn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the books
 I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version of Python
 (e.g. 2.3).

Python 2.3 is not so old... :)

  Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles and
 methods used in those books outdated by now?

Most of the books covers 2.3 ATM I guess

  Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines and
 alot of example code.

  Do you have any tips?

I found very useful the book of Magnus Lie Hatland Practical Python
in my opinion very well done, I've heard anyway that he is going to
publish a new revision.

cheers
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Re: [Tutor] Python books: buying advice needed

2005-10-18 Thread Kent Johnson
David Stotijn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm planning on buying a book to help me learn Python. Some of the books 
 I'm considering are a few years old and based on an older version of 
 Python (e.g. 2.3).
 Is it wise to buy a book based on an older version? Are the principles 
 and methods used in those books outdated by now?

2.3 is not that old. The basics of Python change slowly, especially the 
beginner-level stuff. The later versions introduce refinements, convenience 
features and new, advanced stuff; they don't generally break much or change the 
overall 'feel' of Python. I don't know if there are any books out yet that 
cover 2.4.

 Ideally, the book I'm looking for has some best practice guidelines 
 and alot of example code.
 
 Do you have any tips?

I like _Learning Python_

Kent

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[Tutor] Python Books

2005-06-12 Thread Kristiano Ang
Hey guys,
  On and off, I've been looking through the Python tutorials and I've
been following the Josh Cogliati tutorial. While good for the basics,
I find them to be a little incomplete (i.e: Lack of answers/followups
for the excercises, etc). While this might not be a major issue, I am
new to Python and it is a little offputting.
  
 So, I'm prepared to invest in a Python book of some sort that will
help me master the language. Does anyone have any recommendations? Or
perhaps tutorials? I have limited programming experience (a little
dabbling in C++).


-Kristiano Ang
~Macintosh addict~
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Re: [Tutor] Python Books

2005-06-12 Thread Terry Carroll
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Kristiano Ang wrote:

  So, I'm prepared to invest in a Python book of some sort that will
 help me master the language. Does anyone have any recommendations? Or
 perhaps tutorials? I have limited programming experience (a little
 dabbling in C++).

For a how-to-learn Python book, it's hard to beat Learning Python

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Re: [Tutor] Python Books

2005-06-12 Thread Adam Cripps
On 6/12/05, Kristiano Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey guys,
   On and off, I've been looking through the Python tutorials and I've
 been following the Josh Cogliati tutorial. While good for the basics,
 I find them to be a little incomplete (i.e: Lack of answers/followups
 for the excercises, etc). While this might not be a major issue, I am
 new to Python and it is a little offputting.
 
  So, I'm prepared to invest in a Python book of some sort that will
 help me master the language. Does anyone have any recommendations? Or
 perhaps tutorials? I have limited programming experience (a little
 dabbling in C++).
 
 
 -Kristiano Ang
 ~Macintosh addict~

I'm a fan of the O'Reilly books - 

Learning Python - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lpython2/
Python Standard Library - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pythonsl/ (of
which an online PDF version is available at
http://www.effbot.org/librarybook/)

HTH
Adam

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Re: [Tutor] Python Books

2005-06-12 Thread Chuck Allison
Hello Terry,

Practical Python is really good too, although I chose Learning Python
over it to teach my class this month.

Sunday, June 12, 2005, 9:00:34 AM, you wrote:

TC On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Kristiano Ang wrote:

  So, I'm prepared to invest in a Python book of some sort that will
 help me master the language. Does anyone have any recommendations? Or
 perhaps tutorials? I have limited programming experience (a little
 dabbling in C++).

TC For a how-to-learn Python book, it's hard to beat Learning Python

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