Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: PGage I see in the Comcast listings starting early Sunday morning (1:30 am) that the Olympic listings across the entire family are now for blocks of manageable length (2 to 3.5 hours), and contain rough descriptions of at least the main events scheduled during each block. Well, it's not currently broken out like that on my TiVo. Here are Sunday's listings (as might have been rendered by TV Guide): [3][4C][6][12][15] 7a-6p [NSN]* 4a-9a, 9a-7p [CNB] 830a-1130a, 330p-630p [MSN] 7a-5p [BRV] 7a-3p *One can only assume how the NBC Sports Network would be displayed in Ye Olde Guide. So, I guess I should have been bashing Comcast, not NBC, for the initial problems. And I will now direct my thanks to Comcast as well. Last night I was able to set recordings for a number of targeted events, and it worked well - for example the US BB game (and the Spanish BB game that came on later). Not all of the listings were perfectly accurate - I think one of the blocks had listed team archery, that I don't think ever showed up in the block I recorded. But it has been much easier to record and then later watch what I want. So, last night (Friday night) when I set my recordings for the over night on my downstairs TV, the long, undefined listings were back. It took some work to figure out that the basketball games I wanted to watch (Spain-Russia and US-Lith) were both on the Sports Channel at some time early in the morning, so I set the recorder for that channel - a 15-hour block! (it is still recording as I type this). However, by the time I went to bed last night (actually around 2:00 this morning) and set the recorder in my bedroom DVR, the much more helpful, informative, and shorter listings were back (so I was able to record the Women's Tennis finals, for example, without recording 15 hours of sports my wife was not going to want to watch). I am guessing what this means is that it takes some time for Comcast to get the more specific listings for the week from NBC. Once they get them they put them in, until then, they are long and vague. So I am back to blaming NBC. Though, in NBC's favor, I note that I have been watching a hell of a lot of great events today, all recorded from live broadcasts over night and this morning. Would I like to get the finals in the glamor track and field events the same way? Of course. But it does seem a little ungracious for people to spend all their time bitching about that, and not appreciate the great stuff we are getting live. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
RE: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
As a time-delayed event of national interest, I'd say it should always be assumed that the sports will be announced that way. NBC wants you to stay tuned and watch their commercials later, so I'd expect them to give out spoiler alerts. If you get any warning from ABC, CBS, et al, they're going above and beyond the call. Doug Fields Tampa, FL From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Bruggeman Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:17 AM To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics? Do be warned that your local NBC evening news anchor(s) may spoil the prime time coverage. At least tonight in DC they gave a warning before they did it. David -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
I think the ABC and CBS and everyone but NBC would be responding to a very vocal minority who complains about spoilers. Nothing wrong with that. On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Doug Fields d...@flids.net wrote: As a time-delayed event of national interest, I’d say it should always be assumed that the sports will be announced that way. NBC wants you to stay tuned and watch their commercials later, so I’d expect them to give out spoiler alerts. If you get any warning from ABC, CBS, et al, they’re going above and beyond the call. ** ** Doug Fields Tampa, FL ** ** *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Bruggeman *Sent:* Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:17 AM *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics? ** ** Do be warned that your local NBC evening news anchor(s) may spoil the prime time coverage. At least tonight in DC they gave a warning before they did it. ** ** David ** ** -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -- +++ Joe Coughlin http://www.twitter.com/inturnaround -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: PGage I see in the Comcast listings starting early Sunday morning (1:30 am) that the Olympic listings across the entire family are now for blocks of manageable length (2 to 3.5 hours), and contain rough descriptions of at least the main events scheduled during each block. Well, it's not currently broken out like that on my TiVo. Here are Sunday's listings (as might have been rendered by TV Guide): [3][4C][6][12][15] 7a-6p [NSN]* 4a-9a, 9a-7p [CNB] 830a-1130a, 330p-630p [MSN] 7a-5p [BRV] 7a-3p *One can only assume how the NBC Sports Network would be displayed in Ye Olde Guide. So, I guess I should have been bashing Comcast, not NBC, for the initial problems. And I will now direct my thanks to Comcast as well. Last night I was able to set recordings for a number of targeted events, and it worked well - for example the US BB game (and the Spanish BB game that came on later). Not all of the listings were perfectly accurate - I think one of the blocks had listed team archery, that I don't think ever showed up in the block I recorded. But it has been much easier to record and then later watch what I want. It is important to mostly watch these in temporal order. I watched the US BB game first, then went out to run a little, and do some errands, then came back and watched the women's cycling race. Near the end of that Al Michales announced the result of the US BB game. If I had somehow watched them in reverse order I would have been pissed (even if the blame would have been mine). -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:49 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: My daughter (some here may recall she is spending 6 weeks in London this summer) traveled down to Cardiff today because she had tickets to Brazil-Egypt (which turned out to be a pretty interesting match). Because of this I set my DVR to record it last night - and found that MSNBC was not breaking up its listing of Olympic coverage into anything like recordable bites, but instead listed it in something like a 10 hour block. I had to go in and make a manual recording - first going to the website to figure out what time the particular match I was interested in was going to be on. I see MSNBC is doing the same thing this evening, listing Olympic Coverage from 3pm to 2am (PT). Being forced to make one manual recording is hardly a tragedy, but if this is how all of the coverage is going to be listed across the family of networks, it is going to make it much less convenient to record non-prime time, non NBC events over the next two weeks. Unless you have a very narrow tennis, or boxing or maybe soccer or basketball fetish, you are likely (at least, I am likely) to want to record 1 event on one channel, then another on another and a third on another. I don't have enough DVR memory to just record these large blocks, nor would I really want to even if I did, since I would have to spend so much time FF to find the event I wanted to watch. Is there some technical reason why NBC is doing it this way, or is it possible they really do want to discourage time-shifting as a way of protecting their primetime coverage? I am going to assume someone from NBC is monitoring our list. I see in the Comcast listings starting early Sunday morning (1:30 am) that the Olympic listings across the entire family are now for blocks of manageable length (2 to 3.5 hours), and contain rough descriptions of at least the main events scheduled during each block. This is a much better, and more reasonable, approach to what they did for the first day, and is much appreciated by me. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
- Original Message - From: PGage I see in the Comcast listings starting early Sunday morning (1:30 am) that the Olympic listings across the entire family are now for blocks of manageable length (2 to 3.5 hours), and contain rough descriptions of at least the main events scheduled during each block. Well, it's not currently broken out like that on my TiVo. Here are Sunday's listings (as might have been rendered by TV Guide): [3][4C][6][12][15] 7a-6p [NSN]* 4a-9a, 9a-7p [CNB] 830a-1130a, 330p-630p [MSN] 7a-5p [BRV] 7a-3p *One can only assume how the NBC Sports Network would be displayed in Ye Olde Guide. And on a side note, surely my local NBC anchor isn't the only one wearing a London 2012 lapel pin...? _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
Do be warned that your local NBC evening news anchor(s) may spoil the prime time coverage. At least tonight in DC they gave a warning before they did it. David From: Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics? - Original Message - From: PGage I see in the Comcast listings starting early Sunday morning (1:30 am) that the Olympic listings across the entire family are now for blocks of manageable length (2 to 3.5 hours), and contain rough descriptions of at least the main events scheduled during each block. Well, it's not currently broken out like that on my TiVo. Here are Sunday's listings (as might have been rendered by TV Guide): [3][4C][6][12][15] 7a-6p [NSN]* 4a-9a, 9a-7p [CNB] 830a-1130a, 330p-630p [MSN] 7a-5p [BRV] 7a-3p *One can only assume how the NBC Sports Network would be displayed in Ye Olde Guide. And on a side note, surely my local NBC anchor isn't the only one wearing a London 2012 lapel pin...? _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
- Original Message - From: Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca End result - I am glad I upgraded most TiVo's to hundreds of hours of hard drive space. Bedroom records NBC, living room records CTV, and swimming isn't on SportsNet or the other channels that are part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium Am I understanding the Wiki article correctly by saying that the 2014/16 Games could most likely be covered by two of Canada's OTA networks (CTV/TSN and CBC)...? _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
I'm just envying PGage the ability to program manually on the DVR. Time Warner took that away from us a couple of years ago. (And last week, they rolled out new, buggy software again. I so hate being an unpaid beta-tester for TW. But I digress.) On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca End result - I am glad I upgraded most TiVo's to hundreds of hours of hard drive space. Bedroom records NBC, living room records CTV, and swimming isn't on SportsNet or the other channels that are part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium Am I understanding the Wiki article correctly by saying that the 2014/16 Games could most likely be covered by two of Canada's OTA networks (CTV/TSN and CBC)...? _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
On 2012-07-27 7:29 AM, Brad Beam wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium End result - I am glad I upgraded most TiVo's to hundreds of hours of hard drive space. Bedroom records NBC, living room records CTV, and swimming isn't on SportsNet or the other channels that are part of Am I understanding the Wiki article correctly by saying that the 2014/16 Games could most likely be covered by two of Canada's OTA networks (CTV/TSN and CBC)...? That's the way I read it. Since Rogers is not going to bid. CBC and CTV-owner's (Bell Media) have cooperated before, but they shared TSN (basic cable). What else would you expect? We're Canadian. everybody gets along :-) -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
On 7/27/12 10:37 AM, Doug Eastick wrote: On 2012-07-27 7:29 AM, Brad Beam wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium End result - I am glad I upgraded most TiVo's to hundreds of hours of hard drive space. Bedroom records NBC, living room records CTV, and swimming isn't on SportsNet or the other channels that are part of Am I understanding the Wiki article correctly by saying that the 2014/16 Games could most likely be covered by two of Canada's OTA networks (CTV/TSN and CBC)...? That's the way I read it. Since Rogers is not going to bid. CBC and CTV-owner's (Bell Media) have cooperated before, but they shared TSN (basic cable). What else would you expect? We're Canadian. everybody gets along :-) No, the co-bid isn't going to happen. The IOC did not appreciate Canadians two major broadcasters joining together to low-ball them, http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/canada-cbc-bell-media-olympic-rights-341470 -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
Without knowing what type of DVR you have, I can only relate this to my own TiVo, which gets its listings data from the Tribune Company, meaning Zap2It.com reflects the same data. Checking their online site's Olympics coverage, it is exactly as you stated. The schedule shows a block of time with a list of what sports are likely to be covered within that block of time. As an example, the 4:00am to 2:00pm (PT) block on MSNBC for Sunday lists From London. Soccer, men's: Brazil vs. Belarus, Senegal vs. Uruguay, Great Britain vs. United Arab Emirates; volleyball, men's: Russia vs. Germany, Italy vs. Poland; water polo, men's: Hungary vs. Serbia; handball; table tennis; badminton. All the listings are in that format. I suspect NBC is just sending a list of events they expect to cover at some point within that block on that channel, and they aren't being more specific because (as we all know) sporting events do not tend to adhere to nice orderly time slots. And, like my neighbor Jim Ellwanger (he lives only about five miles from me) I don't recall the Olympics being listed differently in the past, either electronically or in that archaic print magazine TV Guide. (That last part is for Jim to chuckle at, as he has a nice collection of that magazine from when it was actually useful.) On Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:49:00 PM UTC-7, PGage wrote: Is there some technical reason why NBC is doing it this way, or is it possible they really do want to discourage time-shifting as a way of protecting their primetime coverage? -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:05 AM, K.M. Richards richard...@gmail.comwrote: (SNIP) And, like my neighbor Jim Ellwanger (he lives only about five miles from me) I don't recall the Olympics being listed differently in the past, either electronically or in that archaic print magazine TV Guide. (That last part is for Jim to chuckle at, as he has a nice collection of that magazine from when it was actually useful.) With the (in this case) critical differences that that archaic Guide listed significantly shorter blocks. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
My daughter (some here may recall she is spending 6 weeks in London this summer) traveled down to Cardiff today because she had tickets to Brazil-Egypt (which turned out to be a pretty interesting match). Because of this I set my DVR to record it last night - and found that MSNBC was not breaking up its listing of Olympic coverage into anything like recordable bites, but instead listed it in something like a 10 hour block. I had to go in and make a manual recording - first going to the website to figure out what time the particular match I was interested in was going to be on. I see MSNBC is doing the same thing this evening, listing Olympic Coverage from 3pm to 2am (PT). Being forced to make one manual recording is hardly a tragedy, but if this is how all of the coverage is going to be listed across the family of networks, it is going to make it much less convenient to record non-prime time, non NBC events over the next two weeks. Unless you have a very narrow tennis, or boxing or maybe soccer or basketball fetish, you are likely (at least, I am likely) to want to record 1 event on one channel, then another on another and a third on another. I don't have enough DVR memory to just record these large blocks, nor would I really want to even if I did, since I would have to spend so much time FF to find the event I wanted to watch. Is there some technical reason why NBC is doing it this way, or is it possible they really do want to discourage time-shifting as a way of protecting their primetime coverage? -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
On Jul 26, 2012, at 9:49 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: Is there some technical reason why NBC is doing it this way, or is it possible they really do want to discourage time-shifting as a way of protecting their primetime coverage? I don't think they're specifically being anti-DVR, I just think they're doing their Olympics listings the way they've always been done. I assume NBC's answer would be that the coverage on the cable channels really isn't being broken up into neat blocks of a certain length, and they don't necessarily know in advance exactly what sport is going to be on the air at exactly which time. Also, I could see it frustrating people to have to set their DVR to record five 2-hour blocks rather than one 10-hour block -- or worse, not realize that there were five 2-hour blocks in a row, and only get the first two hours of the block. Incidentally, I happen to have a copy of the July 27, 1984, issue of TV Guide handy; the prime-time block on ABC was 5 hours long, 7:00 to midnight Eastern, but as was TV Guide's custom for shows longer than 3 hours, they listed it as two separate items, XXIII Olympic Games at 7:00 and XXIII Olympic Games -- Continue at 10:00. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv/ -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
On 2012-07-27 12:49 AM, PGage wrote: Is there some technical reason why NBC is doing it this way, or is it possible they really do want to discourage time-shifting as a way of protecting their primetime coverage? While I do not have an answer for you, I sympathize.Here (Ontario Canada) I will receive the NBC (Detroit) feed, plus CTV, TSN, and Rogers SportsNet. My daughter is traveling the whole first week of The Games so I set some DVRs to record her sport - swimming. All channels are largely using 6+ hour blocks according to the tivo/zap2it data my TiVo's get -- same for a Motorola cable-box DVR. End result - I am glad I upgraded most TiVo's to hundreds of hours of hard drive space. Bedroom records NBC, living room records CTV, and swimming isn't on SportsNet or the other channels that are part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s_Olympic_Broadcast_Media_Consortium -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Is NBC Purposely Planning a DVR-Unfriendly Olympics?
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvwrote: On Jul 26, 2012, at 9:49 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: Is there some technical reason why NBC is doing it this way, or is it possible they really do want to discourage time-shifting as a way of protecting their primetime coverage? I don't think they're specifically being anti-DVR, I just think they're doing their Olympics listings the way they've always been done. I assume NBC's answer would be that the coverage on the cable channels really isn't being broken up into neat blocks of a certain length, and they don't necessarily know in advance exactly what sport is going to be on the air at exactly which time. Also, I could see it frustrating people to have to set their DVR to record five 2-hour blocks rather than one 10-hour block -- or worse, not realize that there were five 2-hour blocks in a row, and only get the first two hours of the block. Incidentally, I happen to have a copy of the July 27, 1984, issue of TV Guide handy; the prime-time block on ABC was 5 hours long, 7:00 to midnight Eastern, but as was TV Guide's custom for shows longer than 3 hours, they listed it as two separate items, XXIII Olympic Games at 7:00 and XXIII Olympic Games -- Continue at 10:00. People who DVR sports events are probably used to some uncertainty, at least around when the event will end. It seems a little odd that NBC would not know when at least many events are scheduled to be shown on each platform. I can see them not wanting to get blasted by pissed off fans who used their program listings to record a special event and then missed it. I could live with just generic listings (e.g. Fencing, Badmitten, Beach Volleyball), but the extra long blocks is what is killing me. Your observation of the convention in the old TV Guide seems about right to me, and I don't see why NBC can't do it that way. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
