Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
This NYT blog post suggests the dispute was legit. http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/things-get-kind-of-crazy-among-colbert-daft-punk-and-mtv From: PGage pga...@gmail.com To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: The show started promoting Colbchella '013 on the air last week, so I think it reasonable that there's been some work on at least some part of last night's performance well in advance. Heck, last year Colbert did Colbchella '012 from the Intrepid, which involved melding in-studio and onboard footage. Right - I think the question here though is, was the advance work in support of Daft Punk (I think it was, once I figured out that DP was real), or, as Jon suspects, were they always planning on having someone different on in the end? -- -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
Watching the diatribe a second time, and including Colbert's remarks from last night (which I've seen apparently misinterpreted by one major media outlet), I'm swayed by the argument that the screwing by Viacom really did happen, and the video was in the works ahead of time (and repurposed). On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:17 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: This NYT blog post suggests the dispute was legit. http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/things-get-kind-of-crazy-among-colbert-daft-punk-and-mtv -- *From:* PGage pga...@gmail.com *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:28 PM *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: The show started promoting Colbchella '013 on the air last week, so I think it reasonable that there's been some work on at least some part of last night's performance well in advance. Heck, last year Colbert did Colbchella '012 from the Intrepid, which involved melding in-studio and onboard footage. Right - I think the question here though is, was the advance work in support of Daft Punk (I think it was, once I figured out that DP was real), or, as Jon suspects, were they always planning on having someone different on in the end? -- -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: This NYT blog post suggests the dispute was legit. http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/things-get-kind-of-crazy-among-colbert-daft-punk-and-mtv Interesting note: Daft Punk’s planned appearance had already been a source of stress for “Colbert” since the group was only willing to appear in costume, and not perform or sit for an interview. Is this saying that even if the appearance had gone as planned they would not have sung their song, and just showed up (without even doing an interview)? Why would MTV even have objected to that? If their costume is those weird helmets on their heads, and they were not going to sing or talk, why not just put two stage hands in helmets? As I say, I missed the significance of this at first, because I assumed the entire thing was a joke - the promo of the group in advance and the excuse for why they did not show up. I do know who Robin Thicke is, and know his song, so I thought the joke was that Colbert was excited about having this ridiculous, made-up group that he thought had the song of the summer, and then wound up settling for the guy who really did have the song of the summer. The song he danced to even sounded like a made-up song to me. I guess I am the only one in the country who was not familiar with these guys. Do we know what they actually look like, or do they just perform with helmets? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
The short version: Daft Punk was known for their house and electronica music (I have a couple of their CD and they make regular appearances on my playlists). They wrote and recorded the score for the Tron remake in 2010. For Random Access Memory, they decided to make a shift and pull off a pretty impressive marketing campaign for Get Lucky, which is how they became one of those eight-year overnight successes. As for the significance of the helmets: they're real people in there, and what they do (especially with live shows) is not something you could just have someone else play the role (think Barney Gumbel as Krusty The Clown). There's another electronic music performer called deadmau5 (pronounced dead mouse) who regularly DJs in an oversized head, and it'd be pretty damned obvious if it wasn't him. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:19 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting note: Daft Punk’s planned appearance had already been a source of stress for “Colbert” since the group was only willing to appear in costume, and not perform or sit for an interview. Is this saying that even if the appearance had gone as planned they would not have sung their song, and just showed up (without even doing an interview)? Why would MTV even have objected to that? If their costume is those weird helmets on their heads, and they were not going to sing or talk, why not just put two stage hands in helmets? As I say, I missed the significance of this at first, because I assumed the entire thing was a joke - the promo of the group in advance and the excuse for why they did not show up. I do know who Robin Thicke is, and know his song, so I thought the joke was that Colbert was excited about having this ridiculous, made-up group that he thought had the song of the summer, and then wound up settling for the guy who really did have the song of the summer. The song he danced to even sounded like a made-up song to me. I guess I am the only one in the country who was not familiar with these guys. Do we know what they actually look like, or do they just perform with helmets? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
They've been around for ages, but for a number of years now, they've only appeared in costume with the helmets. And they've not done broadcast interviews. They've given written interviews - but that's all from what I can tell. Their new album is excellent though, and Get Lucky isn't even the best track on it. Adam On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: This NYT blog post suggests the dispute was legit. http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/things-get-kind-of-crazy-among-colbert-daft-punk-and-mtv Interesting note: Daft Punk’s planned appearance had already been a source of stress for “Colbert” since the group was only willing to appear in costume, and not perform or sit for an interview. Is this saying that even if the appearance had gone as planned they would not have sung their song, and just showed up (without even doing an interview)? Why would MTV even have objected to that? If their costume is those weird helmets on their heads, and they were not going to sing or talk, why not just put two stage hands in helmets? As I say, I missed the significance of this at first, because I assumed the entire thing was a joke - the promo of the group in advance and the excuse for why they did not show up. I do know who Robin Thicke is, and know his song, so I thought the joke was that Colbert was excited about having this ridiculous, made-up group that he thought had the song of the summer, and then wound up settling for the guy who really did have the song of the summer. The song he danced to even sounded like a made-up song to me. I guess I am the only one in the country who was not familiar with these guys. Do we know what they actually look like, or do they just perform with helmets? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
Except. While I enjoy a Colbert evisceration as much as anyone, I began to have my doubts as the subsequent musical video montage unfolded, one which was clearly created with much planning over the past month or more. So ... they were planning that all along, and just changed the setup? On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: So Daft Punk was supposed to appear on Colbert last night when their Viacom brethren got wind of it. And Stephen handed it about as well as Stephen possibly could. http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/428371/august-06-2013/stephest-colbchella--013---special-guest-stephen-colbert- I always considered Colbert's epic takedown on Jon Kyl from two years ago to be the gold medal winner of Colbert rants, followed by the Wheat Thins Sponsortunity. I'm now contemplating where this ranks (and I'm only talking about the segment itself, not the segment that immediately followed, which is excellent in its own right). -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote: Except. While I enjoy a Colbert evisceration as much as anyone, I began to have my doubts as the subsequent musical video montage unfolded, one which was clearly created with much planning over the past month or more. So ... they were planning that all along, and just changed the setup? My problem was that until last night I literally had never heard of Daft Punk (I have now found out they are a real group that really does have the #1 song of the summer, and I guess that really was the song that was being played over that montage). For much of the whole bit I thought the whole thing was just a faux controversy leading up to the ultimate guest (whose song, and video, I am familiar with) who I assumed had been planned all along. Later, after some investigation, I discovered that the whole thing was real (or as real as things get in Colbert-land). I think that montage was originally planned as a lead into to Daft Punk, and would have worked fine in that way. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
The show started promoting Colbchella '013 on the air last week, so I think it reasonable that there's been some work on at least some part of last night's performance well in advance. Heck, last year Colbert did Colbchella '012 from the Intrepid, which involved melding in-studio and onboard footage. As for Daft Punk, they've been around for a long time, and featured heavily on the Tron:Legacy score. Not to be confused with Kraftwerk, which is the group Craig and Geoff were aping for a few shows earlier this summer. David From: PGage pga...@gmail.com To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote: Except. While I enjoy a Colbert evisceration as much as anyone, I began to have my doubts as the subsequent musical video montage unfolded, one which was clearly created with much planning over the past month or more. So ... they were planning that all along, and just changed the setup? My problem was that until last night I literally had never heard of Daft Punk (I have now found out they are a real group that really does have the #1 song of the summer, and I guess that really was the song that was being played over that montage). For much of the whole bit I thought the whole thing was just a faux controversy leading up to the ultimate guest (whose song, and video, I am familiar with) who I assumed had been planned all along. Later, after some investigation, I discovered that the whole thing was real (or as real as things get in Colbert-land). I think that montage was originally planned as a lead into to Daft Punk, and would have worked fine in that way. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: The show started promoting Colbchella '013 on the air last week, so I think it reasonable that there's been some work on at least some part of last night's performance well in advance. Heck, last year Colbert did Colbchella '012 from the Intrepid, which involved melding in-studio and onboard footage. Right - I think the question here though is, was the advance work in support of Daft Punk (I think it was, once I figured out that DP was real), or, as Jon suspects, were they always planning on having someone different on in the end? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
I was wondering the same thing, but given the amount of setup required for that montage - past guests, visits to Charlie Rose/Fallon/AGT, the Rockettes in their rehearsal studio, Jon Stewart via Skype, HENRY KISSINGER! - I had assumed it was always the setup for Daft Punk's 'live' performance. Although...wouldn't they have actually performed Get Lucky in studio? That'd be kinda redundant. I actually thought Robin Thicke was an adequate substitute (if, indeed, he WAS a last-minute substitute), and Blurred Lines is actually a really catchy tune. That being said, I think I liked this performance better: http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2013/08/jimmy-fallon-robin-thicke-the-roots-sing-blurred-lines-w-classroom-instruments/ As an aside, I always enjoy when Colbert has some fun with the other NYC-based hosts, my favorite being the three-way rumble with Jon Stewart Conan during the last writer's strike. Sadly, the complete video is lost to the ages, since NBC has purged any record of Conan from their website. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:47:10 PM UTC-4, Jon Delfin wrote: Except. While I enjoy a Colbert evisceration as much as anyone, I began to have my doubts as the subsequent musical video montage unfolded, one which was clearly created with much planning over the past month or more. So ... they were planning that all along, and just changed the setup? On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Joe Hass hassg...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: So Daft Punk was supposed to appear on Colbert last night when their Viacom brethren got wind of it. And Stephen handed it about as well as Stephen possibly could. http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/428371/august-06-2013/stephest-colbchella--013---special-guest-stephen-colbert- I always considered Colbert's epic takedown on Jon Kyl from two years ago to be the gold medal winner of Colbert rants, followed by the Wheat Thins Sponsortunity. I'm now contemplating where this ranks (and I'm only talking about the segment itself, not the segment that immediately followed, which is excellent in its own right). -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvor...@googlegroups.comjavascript: To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
No, the real question is When did original Stig clone himself and start an electronica band? On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:28:35 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.comjavascript: wrote: The show started promoting Colbchella '013 on the air last week, so I think it reasonable that there's been some work on at least some part of last night's performance well in advance. Heck, last year Colbert did Colbchella '012 from the Intrepid, which involved melding in-studio and onboard footage. Right - I think the question here though is, was the advance work in support of Daft Punk (I think it was, once I figured out that DP was real), or, as Jon suspects, were they always planning on having someone different on in the end? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
That was why I separated the two. I agree with the thinking the second segment was set up well in advance. Colbert tends to use very deliberate language (similar to Dave Berry using the phrase I am not making this up) when he's telling the truth. If you remember the Wheat Thins bit, when he read the memo from the brand manager, he was very specific that it was real (and, having worked in agencies with insane coworkers and clients, that read *exactly* like something a brand manager would very deliberately write). On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: The show started promoting Colbchella '013 on the air last week, so I think it reasonable that there's been some work on at least some part of last night's performance well in advance. Heck, last year Colbert did Colbchella '012 from the Intrepid, which involved melding in-studio and onboard footage. Right - I think the question here though is, was the advance work in support of Daft Punk (I think it was, once I figured out that DP was real), or, as Jon suspects, were they always planning on having someone different on in the end? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
