[twitter-dev] Re: Post status to Twitter mobile version via querystring
A quick google search shows how to use the Embeded Safari browser to change the user-agent. If you change the user-agent to something a desktop would use, it should work for you. Realize though that this will then give the desktop presentation of the website, which may not be ideal.. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1095045/spoofing-the-user-agent-of-an-embedded-safari-browser-on-the-iphone On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Michael Paladino wrote: A friend of mine is working on an iPhone app that will provide an option to post some text to Twitter via the “status” querystring. For example,http://twitter.com/?status=My%20status%20update. This works fine from a desktop or laptop, but when on an iPhone, Twitter recognizes that it’s a mobile device and redirects to m.twitter.com which does not handle the “status” querystring. Anyone know a way to force Twitter to go straight to the non-mobile version or have any other work around? Thanks in advance. Michael
[twitter-dev] Re: Mobile oAuth
> I have a mobile based twitter client in the field and have implemented > oAuth for this client. Some of the devices are either very low memory > or have primitive browsers that dont support the rendering of the > 'allow' / 'deny' access page ( http://twitter.com/oauth/authorize ). I > have tried the obvious http://m.twitter.com/oauth/authorize but this > seems to serve the same standard webage. > > So Im looking for nat previous info or plans of a lightweight > implementation of oAuth access page for twitter. I'm also particularly interested in such a page, especially one a text browser could access such as Lynx or w3m. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Adore, v.: To venerate expectantly. -- Ambrose Bierce --
[twitter-dev] Mobile oAuth
Hi There, I have a mobile based twitter client in the field and have implemented oAuth for this client. Some of the devices are either very low memory or have primitive browsers that dont support the rendering of the 'allow' / 'deny' access page ( http://twitter.com/oauth/authorize ). I have tried the obvious http://m.twitter.com/oauth/authorize but this seems to serve the same standard webage. So Im looking for nat previous info or plans of a lightweight implementation of oAuth access page for twitter. Cheers, M
[twitter-dev] Re: C# + OAuth + account/update_profile_image = 500 Internal Server Error
Got this sorted out and working, and thought I should share the two pitfalls which were causing me problems. First of all, unbelievably, the 500 Internal Server Error was being caused by an extra carriage return between my last HTTP header and the first multipart boundary. Seriously. I had two blank lines in there instead of one. Removed the extra carriage return, and my 500 vanished, being replaced by a more reasonable "(401) Unauthorized - Incorrect signature" error. Secondly, the OAuth documentation seems a bit shaky when it comes to multipart/form-data POSTs. But basically, you do NOT use any of the POST parameters when creating your signature. And this includes all of the OAuth-specific parameters like oauth_consumer_key, oauth_signature_method, etc. Bit of a security hole imho, OAuth implements all this complexity to avoid man-in-the-middle or replay attacks, and as soon as you do a multipart POST it's all negated. So, my signature base was literally: POST&http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Faccount%2Fupdate_profile_image.xml& Just the HTTP method and the URL. No parameters. Once I made that change to the signature generation, my request went through fine and my avatar changed. Hope this helps someone! Cheers, David...
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
I fully agree with you, Duane. Dewald On Aug 20, 12:17 am, Duane Roelands wrote: > This is a terrible idea. > > 1. It's unethical because Twitter users have never authorized Twitter > to use their email addresses in this way. The TOS specifically states > "We claim no intellectual property rights over the material you > provide to the Twitter service. Your profile and materials uploaded > remain yours." My profile is mine; that includes my email address. > > 2. It will drive users away from Twitter because they will start > getting email that says "Hey, we know you use Twitter! Your account > name is @DWRoelands! Follow us on Twitter!" Users don't like having > their email addresses used in ways that surprise them; ESPECIALLY when > it results in marketing email that they didn't ask for. Many users > will conclude (incorrectly) that Twitter sold their email addresses > and that's not the sort of press Twitter needs. > > 3. It's a spammer's dream; an email-validation system that not only > tells you which email addresses are probably good - it also gives you > a pile of Twitter usernames to auto-spam-follow. > > As a developer and a user, I hope Twitter -never- implements this.
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
This is a terrible idea. 1. It's unethical because Twitter users have never authorized Twitter to use their email addresses in this way. The TOS specifically states "We claim no intellectual property rights over the material you provide to the Twitter service. Your profile and materials uploaded remain yours." My profile is mine; that includes my email address. 2. It will drive users away from Twitter because they will start getting email that says "Hey, we know you use Twitter! Your account name is @DWRoelands! Follow us on Twitter!" Users don't like having their email addresses used in ways that surprise them; ESPECIALLY when it results in marketing email that they didn't ask for. Many users will conclude (incorrectly) that Twitter sold their email addresses and that's not the sort of press Twitter needs. 3. It's a spammer's dream; an email-validation system that not only tells you which email addresses are probably good - it also gives you a pile of Twitter usernames to auto-spam-follow. As a developer and a user, I hope Twitter -never- implements this. On Aug 19, 8:12 pm, Jesse Stay wrote: > Here's the use-case we should be considering for this, and I think it's > valid and I'd love to see Twitter allow this: > With the ability to identify matching Twitter users by e-mail, you can now > suggest to your users people in their friends list on your own website that > have Twitter accounts and allow them to follow on Twitter as well as your > own site. Or vice-versa - if your users are friends on Twitter but not on > your site, you can identify this and suggest they become friends on your own > site. Facebook allows this by enabling developers to send a hash digest of > the user's e-mail address (or group of users e-mail addresses) on your > system, and Facebook returns a list of users on Facebook that match those > e-mail addresses (with some caveats). No e-mail address is ever revealed and > you can match by e-mail that way. > > I think this would be a very useful feature, especially from a marketing > perspective, but from the Ux perspective as well, for Twitter to implement. > > Jesse > > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM, arawajy wrote: > > > Dear Developers, > > I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to > > know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a > > twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate > > lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the > > non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom > > invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's > > owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. > > Thanks and Regards, > > Mahmoud
[twitter-dev] Re: legal issues - is tweet an official verb in the US language?
On Aug 19, 8:59 am, David Fisher wrote: > Unless someone here is a lawyer, we should probably avoid legal > debate- consult with each our own counsels, and move on to doing what > we do best (coding). > I find these debates are often filled with FUD, misinformation, > speculation, a misunderstanding of law, etcOkay, Dad. I have another idea - you discuss what you wish, and I'll discuss what I wish, and you can maybe stop trying to tell others in this group what to do, which, I don't mean to be harsh, but you've been doing kind of a lot of lately and I doubt I'm the only one who's getting a little sick of it. I wasn't debating anything. Nicole asked about common words being trademarked, I noted two examples where it's happened. Thanks for jumping in there to save me from myself.
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
This used to be apart of the API but was removed for security reasons: http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=353 Abraham On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:07, arawajy wrote: > > Dear Developers, > I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to > know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a > twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate > lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the > non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom > invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's > owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. > Thanks and Regards, > Mahmoud > -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, Wisconsin, United States
[twitter-dev] Re: "about 8 hours ago from API"
Right now there is no way to add a custom source from curl using Basic Auth. You can, however, force it to say "from web" by adding "source=web" in the POST variables. Thanks, -Chad On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Eagle1 wrote: > > > I'm using a fast and simple function to send my updates... > working with curl >
[twitter-dev] Re: User agent
http://apiwiki.twitter.com/FAQ#HowdoIget%E2%80%9CfromMyApp%E2%80%9DappendedtoupdatessentfrommyAPIapplication On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 17:09, Scott Haneda wrote: > > Playng with the > http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-statuses%C2%A0update > part > of the API today. I can post easily with curl: > > curl -u user:password -d "status=foo bar baz" > > The Tweet says it is from "API". How do I set the user agent as I have > seen other developers do? It is not listed on the above API page. > -- > Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ * > > -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, Wisconsin, United States
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
Here's the use-case we should be considering for this, and I think it's valid and I'd love to see Twitter allow this: With the ability to identify matching Twitter users by e-mail, you can now suggest to your users people in their friends list on your own website that have Twitter accounts and allow them to follow on Twitter as well as your own site. Or vice-versa - if your users are friends on Twitter but not on your site, you can identify this and suggest they become friends on your own site. Facebook allows this by enabling developers to send a hash digest of the user's e-mail address (or group of users e-mail addresses) on your system, and Facebook returns a list of users on Facebook that match those e-mail addresses (with some caveats). No e-mail address is ever revealed and you can match by e-mail that way. I think this would be a very useful feature, especially from a marketing perspective, but from the Ux perspective as well, for Twitter to implement. Jesse On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM, arawajy wrote: > > Dear Developers, > I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to > know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a > twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate > lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the > non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom > invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's > owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. > Thanks and Regards, > Mahmoud >
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
From the google docs on importing: • You can import 3,000 contacts at a time. • Non-ASCII or non-Latin characters may not be accepted. • Any information formatted as a group or distribution list won't transfer into your Gmail Contacts list. • Importing information that matches the email address of an existing entry will replace the information in your Contacts list with the most recently uploaded information. Looks like you have about 133 files to split and script into it :) On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Mahmoud Abdur-Rahman wrote: This is already the approach I've followed and it worked. I created a contact (CSV) file and imported it into a gmail account. It was around 1700+e-mail addresses which correspond to one segment of the customers. I got the list and I copied them and started to omit the information I don't need. But when I tried to work with the second group in order it didn't work as there're 30,000+ e-mail addresses. I tried to split them into 2 groups, it didn't work. Simply the gmail and Yahoo! are not able to import them due to the large number. I didn't get your concern about the ethics and privacy. I didn't crawl those e-mails or buy them. They're our customers and we want to invite them to our page. They gave us their e-mail addresses so willingly and I guess we're not misusing them. -- Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
My only statements regarding ethics or morality is that with a list of 400K people, there will be many ways in which those 400K people interpret what you are doing. So you were able to do 1700 emails so far, can you figure out what the limit is? At that point, I would probably use a carefully made screen playback tool to help automate what you are doing. It is not pretty, but it will get you the result you are after. On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Mahmoud Abdur-Rahman wrote: This is already the approach I've followed and it worked. I created a contact (CSV) file and imported it into a gmail account. It was around 1700+e-mail addresses which correspond to one segment of the customers. I got the list and I copied them and started to omit the information I don't need. But when I tried to work with the second group in order it didn't work as there're 30,000+ e-mail addresses. I tried to split them into 2 groups, it didn't work. Simply the gmail and Yahoo! are not able to import them due to the large number. I didn't get your concern about the ethics and privacy. I didn't crawl those e-mails or buy them. They're our customers and we want to invite them to our page. They gave us their e-mail addresses so willingly and I guess we're not misusing them. -- Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
[twitter-dev] Re: "about 8 hours ago from API"
That doesn't work on new apps. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 15:07, djc8080 wrote: > > http://twitter.com/statuses/update.format?source=appname > -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
Yes, We'll send an e-mail to invite them. But we'll only send the e-mail to the customers who're already using twitter. This is why we need to filter the 400K and find out and then send a custom invitation. I know it looks a bit strange but it has its business justifications.Regards, Mahmoud On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Scott Haneda wrote: > > Good point. Why not just send them an email, and offer to let them follow > you? This puts it as a opt in on their part. You can then follow them back > if you desire, which I assume you do. > > Probably not a good idea to do anything of this nature when you are talking > about 400K. > > > On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:14 PM, David Fisher wrote: > > Sounds like something you should be able to do in an email to them or >> with a message on your website. >> >> On Aug 19, 1:29 pm, arawajy wrote: >> >>> I want to invite them to follow the company on Twitter. >>> >>> On Aug 19, 8:25 pm, Andrew Badera wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, arawajy wrote: >>> >>> Dear Developers, > I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to > know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a > twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate > lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the > non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom > invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's > owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. > Thanks and Regards, > Mahmoud > >>> If they're already your "clients" then what are you inviting them to? >>> > -- > Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ * > > -- Mahmoud Abdur-Rahman Planning & Marketing Director Work: +974 499-7800 Mobile: +974 513-3241 Fax: +974 499-7801 Email: m...@islamweb.net.qa http://www.linkedin.com/in/mahmoudabdurrahman islamweb Fanar Building Grand Hamad st., Doha, 63705 Qatar See who we know in common Want a signature like this?
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
Thanks Scott,This is already the approach I've followed and it worked. I created a contact (CSV) file and imported it into a gmail account. It was around 1700+e-mail addresses which correspond to one segment of the customers. I got the list and I copied them and started to omit the information I don't need. But when I tried to work with the second group in order it didn't work as there're 30,000+ e-mail addresses. I tried to split them into 2 groups, it didn't work. Simply the gmail and Yahoo! are not able to import them due to the large number. I didn't get your concern about the ethics and privacy. I didn't crawl those e-mails or buy them. They're our customers and we want to invite them to our page. They gave us their e-mail addresses so willingly and I guess we're not misusing them. Kindly, clarify. Thanks for your reply, Regards Mahmoud On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Scott Haneda wrote: > > I'm not sure the API can do it, someone here can better answer that. > > I'm not sure the ethics and terms of this, someone here can better answer > that. > > In a roundabout way you can do this. Create a gmail account. Import your > list into gmails address book. Login to your Twitter account and tell the > account settings to use your gmail account to locate Twitter users based on > your gmail address book. > > With a large list like this, you may have to break it up into batches. You > may also be plauged with manually adding them once you see the matches on > screen. I can not remember if there is an "add all" feature. > > Do a small test of 100 adresses. > > From there, it is basic API calls against your Twitter account to do as you > see fit within the terms of the Twitter API and service. > > I do not think it is possible to query email address data in Twitter other > than by the above method with gmail, and a few other providers. Email > addresses are private, as they should be. > -- > Scott > Iphone says hello. > > > On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:07 AM, arawajy wrote: > > >> Dear Developers, >> I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to >> know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a >> twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate >> lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the >> non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom >> invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's >> owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. >> Thanks and Regards, >> Mahmoud >> > --
[twitter-dev] Re: User agent
Please see: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/FAQ Question 2, part i Thanks, -Chad On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Scott Haneda wrote: > > Playng with the > http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-statuses%C2%A0update part > of the API today. I can post easily with curl: > > curl -u user:password -d "status=foo bar baz" > > The Tweet says it is from "API". How do I set the user agent as I have seen > other developers do? It is not listed on the above API page. > -- > Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ * > >
[twitter-dev] Re: Post status to Twitter mobile version via querystring
Looks like this has already been discussed with no work-around: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/0ea702e91df11dfd?pli=1 On Aug 19, 11:57 am, "Michael Paladino" wrote: > A friend of mine is working on an iPhone app that will provide an option to > post some text to Twitter via the "status" querystring. For > example,http://twitter.com/?status=My%20status%20update. This works fine > from a > desktop or laptop, but when on an iPhone, Twitter recognizes that it's a > mobile device and redirects to m.twitter.com which does not handle the > "status" querystring. Anyone know a way to force Twitter to go straight to > the non-mobile version or have any other work around? > > Thanks in advance. > > Michael
[twitter-dev] Re: "about 8 hours ago from API"
Here is the FAQ entry: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/FAQ#HowdoIget%E2%80%9CfromMyApp%E2%80%9DappendedtoupdatessentfrommyAPIapplication On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 14:05, Eagle1 wrote: > > Hi there ! > > I wanted to know if it is possible to remove that text when you tweet > from an API. Or to change the API word... > > thanks for help ! > -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, Wisconsin, United States
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter's "Tweet" Trademark Torpedoed
Its not who is first to apply, or even who is first to be approved, it is first to use in commerce, and whoever can prove that, and more important, can afford to prove that, owns the trademark; that is if "Tweet" can even qualify to be a trademark. For Twitter, now the process is; if Twitter felt so inclined, is to dispute the other marks, (if) any of them make it past the examination period, and show it was their company that coined the phrase "CoTweet", "TweetPhoto" etc.., and it was them that used it first in connection to commerce. If they win the dispute, they then will go in and reapply for the mark. I had the exact same thing happen to me, this is why I know this. It is possible that the other trademark applications will get approved, and twitter will lose their claim to tweet,and not prevail on disputing it either. But, do you really think Twitter is going to allow CoTweet.com and skate using the word containing "tweet", if they think they should own it? Having said that, Twitter should not prevail nor should anyone on the Tweet Mark. There is no question that it belongs in public domain. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Sam Johnston wrote: > > [refer to the article itself for the inline links - @samj] > > Twitter's "Tweet" Trademark Torpedoed > http://samj.net/2009/08/twitters-tweet-trademark-torpedoed.html > > Last month Twitter founder Biz Stone announced in a blog post (May The > Tweets Be With You) that they "have applied to trademark Tweet because > it is clearly attached to Twitter from a brand perspective". This > understandably caused widespread upset as the word "tweet" has been > used generically by users for some time as well as in any number of > product names by independent software vendors. Here's some samples > from the resulting media storm: > >* CNET News: Is Twitter freaking out over 'tweet' trademark? >* TechExpert: Twitter Trying to Trademark "Tweet" >* LA Times: Will Twitter trademark 'tweet' before it’s > genericized? >* PC Magazine: Twitter Trying to Trademark 'Tweet' >* TechCrunch: Twitter Grows “Uncomfortable” With The Use Of The > Word Tweet In Applications >* TechCrunch: Twitter To Developers: “Tweet” Your Heart Out, But > Don’t “Twitter” It >* Bloomberg: Twitter Lays Claim to ‘Tweet’ Trademark in Bid to > Protect Brand > > What they failed to mention though was that according to USPTO records > (#77715815) not only had they actually applied some months before (on > 16 April 2009) but that their application had been refused that very > same day (1 July 2009). > > According to documents from the Trademark Document Retrieval system, > their lawyers (Fenwick & West LLP) were notified of the rejection by > email to tradema...@fenwick.com that day. The USPTO had explained that > "marks in prior-filed pending applications may present a bar to > registration of applicant’s mark. [...] If the marks in the referenced > applications register, applicant’s mark may be refused registration > under Trademark Act Section 2(d) because of a likelihood of confusion > between the two marks", referencing and attaching not one, not two but > three separate trademark applications: > >* #77695071 for TWEETMARKS (pending receipt of Statement of Use) >* #77697186 for COTWEET (pending clarification) >* #77701645 for TWEETPHOTO (pending transfer to Supplemental > Register) > > Now I may not be a lawyer (I did play a role in overturning Dell's > "cloud computing" and Psion's "Netbook" trademarks) but given all > three of the marks identified look like proceeding to registration (it > only takes one to rain on their parade), it's my non-expert opinion > that Twitter has a snowflake's chance in hell of securing a monopoly > over the word "Tweet". > > That's too bad for Twitter but it's great news for the rest of the > community as it's one less tool for locking in Twitter's rapidly > growing microblogging monopoly. People do use the word "tweet" > generically (including with non-Twitter services) and if Twitter, Inc. > were successful in removing it from the public lexicon then we could > all suffer in the long run. > > In any case it is neither serious nor safe for one company to become > the "pulse of the planet" and that is why I will be following up with > a series of posts as to how distributed social networking can be made > a reality through open standards (if that stuff is of interest to you > then subscribe and/or follow me for updates). I've also got some > interesting things in the pipeline in relation to standards and > trademarks in general so watch this space. > > Anyway it just goes to show that with trademarks you need to "use it > or lose it". The "propagation delay" of the media has dropped from > months at the outset to near real-time today so companies need to move > fast to protect their marks or lose them forever. As for whether the 1 > July post was a scramble to protect the mark on receipt of the USPTO's > denial, whether the
[twitter-dev] Re: User agent
> Playng with the > http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-statuses%C2%A0update > part of the API today. I can post easily with curl: > > curl -u user:password -d "status=foo bar baz" > > The Tweet says it is from "API". How do I set the user agent as I > have seen other developers do? It is not listed on the above API page. You don't, not with Basic Auth, unless you were a grandfathered application. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- God will pardon me. It's His business. -- Heinrich Heine ---
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter's "Tweet" Trademark Torpedoed
caveat: ianal how does this help users? Doesn't this just mean that use of the term "tweet" will be in the hands of either Peter F Wingard., Launchability, Inc., or Sean Thomas Callahan? why is that better than in twitter's hand? Sean Callahan's entry, tweetphoto, looks mightily similar to twitter in color and form. Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com, www.cheek.com twitter: http://twitter.com/cheekdotcom Sam Johnston wrote: > [snip] > > That's too bad for Twitter but it's great news for the rest of the > community as it's one less tool for locking in Twitter's rapidly > growing microblogging monopoly. People do use the word "tweet" > generically (including with non-Twitter services) and if Twitter, Inc. > were successful in removing it from the public lexicon then we could > all suffer in the long run. >
[twitter-dev] User agent
Playng with the http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-statuses%C2%A0update part of the API today. I can post easily with curl: curl -u user:password -d "status=foo bar baz" The Tweet says it is from "API". How do I set the user agent as I have seen other developers do? It is not listed on the above API page. -- Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter's "Tweet" Trademark Torpedoed
Excellent as always Sam. ∞ Andy Badera ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=(andrew+badera)+OR+(andy+badera) On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Sam Johnston wrote: > > [refer to the article itself for the inline links - @samj] > > Twitter's "Tweet" Trademark Torpedoed > http://samj.net/2009/08/twitters-tweet-trademark-torpedoed.html > > Last month Twitter founder Biz Stone announced in a blog post (May The > Tweets Be With You) that they "have applied to trademark Tweet because > it is clearly attached to Twitter from a brand perspective". This > understandably caused widespread upset as the word "tweet" has been > used generically by users for some time as well as in any number of > product names by independent software vendors. Here's some samples > from the resulting media storm: > > * CNET News: Is Twitter freaking out over 'tweet' trademark? > * TechExpert: Twitter Trying to Trademark "Tweet" > * LA Times: Will Twitter trademark 'tweet' before it’s > genericized? > * PC Magazine: Twitter Trying to Trademark 'Tweet' > * TechCrunch: Twitter Grows “Uncomfortable” With The Use Of The > Word Tweet In Applications > * TechCrunch: Twitter To Developers: “Tweet” Your Heart Out, But > Don’t “Twitter” It > * Bloomberg: Twitter Lays Claim to ‘Tweet’ Trademark in Bid to > Protect Brand > > What they failed to mention though was that according to USPTO records > (#77715815) not only had they actually applied some months before (on > 16 April 2009) but that their application had been refused that very > same day (1 July 2009). > > According to documents from the Trademark Document Retrieval system, > their lawyers (Fenwick & West LLP) were notified of the rejection by > email to tradema...@fenwick.com that day. The USPTO had explained that > "marks in prior-filed pending applications may present a bar to > registration of applicant’s mark. [...] If the marks in the referenced > applications register, applicant’s mark may be refused registration > under Trademark Act Section 2(d) because of a likelihood of confusion > between the two marks", referencing and attaching not one, not two but > three separate trademark applications: > > * #77695071 for TWEETMARKS (pending receipt of Statement of Use) > * #77697186 for COTWEET (pending clarification) > * #77701645 for TWEETPHOTO (pending transfer to Supplemental > Register) > > Now I may not be a lawyer (I did play a role in overturning Dell's > "cloud computing" and Psion's "Netbook" trademarks) but given all > three of the marks identified look like proceeding to registration (it > only takes one to rain on their parade), it's my non-expert opinion > that Twitter has a snowflake's chance in hell of securing a monopoly > over the word "Tweet". > > That's too bad for Twitter but it's great news for the rest of the > community as it's one less tool for locking in Twitter's rapidly > growing microblogging monopoly. People do use the word "tweet" > generically (including with non-Twitter services) and if Twitter, Inc. > were successful in removing it from the public lexicon then we could > all suffer in the long run. > > In any case it is neither serious nor safe for one company to become > the "pulse of the planet" and that is why I will be following up with > a series of posts as to how distributed social networking can be made > a reality through open standards (if that stuff is of interest to you > then subscribe and/or follow me for updates). I've also got some > interesting things in the pipeline in relation to standards and > trademarks in general so watch this space. > > Anyway it just goes to show that with trademarks you need to "use it > or lose it". The "propagation delay" of the media has dropped from > months at the outset to near real-time today so companies need to move > fast to protect their marks or lose them forever. As for whether the 1 > July post was a scramble to protect the mark on receipt of the USPTO's > denial, whether the USPTO was acting in response to it, or whether it > was just a coincidence and particularly bad timing I don't know. I > don't really care either as the result is the same, but I would like > to believe that the USPTO is becoming more responsive to the needs of > the community (after all, they revoked Dell's cloud computing > trademark in the days following the uproar, despite having already > issued a "Notice of Allowance" offering it to them). >
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter's "Tweet" Trademark Torpedoed
This is good news. No one will be getting sued over Tweet then. Yet, keep in mind that Twitter probably *could * shut off access to the API to any company they choose, as its their playground and their rules. Not that they'll start doing that at all however. On Aug 19, 1:57 pm, Sam Johnston wrote: > [refer to the article itself for the inline links - @samj] > > Twitter's "Tweet" Trademark > Torpedoedhttp://samj.net/2009/08/twitters-tweet-trademark-torpedoed.html > > Last month Twitter founder Biz Stone announced in a blog post (May The > Tweets Be With You) that they "have applied to trademark Tweet because > it is clearly attached to Twitter from a brand perspective". This > understandably caused widespread upset as the word "tweet" has been > used generically by users for some time as well as in any number of > product names by independent software vendors. Here's some samples > from the resulting media storm: > > * CNET News: Is Twitter freaking out over 'tweet' trademark? > * TechExpert: Twitter Trying to Trademark "Tweet" > * LA Times: Will Twitter trademark 'tweet' before it’s > genericized? > * PC Magazine: Twitter Trying to Trademark 'Tweet' > * TechCrunch: Twitter Grows “Uncomfortable” With The Use Of The > Word Tweet In Applications > * TechCrunch: Twitter To Developers: “Tweet” Your Heart Out, But > Don’t “Twitter” It > * Bloomberg: Twitter Lays Claim to ‘Tweet’ Trademark in Bid to > Protect Brand > > What they failed to mention though was that according to USPTO records > (#77715815) not only had they actually applied some months before (on > 16 April 2009) but that their application had been refused that very > same day (1 July 2009). > > According to documents from the Trademark Document Retrieval system, > their lawyers (Fenwick & West LLP) were notified of the rejection by > email to tradema...@fenwick.com that day. The USPTO had explained that > "marks in prior-filed pending applications may present a bar to > registration of applicant’s mark. [...] If the marks in the referenced > applications register, applicant’s mark may be refused registration > under Trademark Act Section 2(d) because of a likelihood of confusion > between the two marks", referencing and attaching not one, not two but > three separate trademark applications: > > * #77695071 for TWEETMARKS (pending receipt of Statement of Use) > * #77697186 for COTWEET (pending clarification) > * #77701645 for TWEETPHOTO (pending transfer to Supplemental > Register) > > Now I may not be a lawyer (I did play a role in overturning Dell's > "cloud computing" and Psion's "Netbook" trademarks) but given all > three of the marks identified look like proceeding to registration (it > only takes one to rain on their parade), it's my non-expert opinion > that Twitter has a snowflake's chance in hell of securing a monopoly > over the word "Tweet". > > That's too bad for Twitter but it's great news for the rest of the > community as it's one less tool for locking in Twitter's rapidly > growing microblogging monopoly. People do use the word "tweet" > generically (including with non-Twitter services) and if Twitter, Inc. > were successful in removing it from the public lexicon then we could > all suffer in the long run. > > In any case it is neither serious nor safe for one company to become > the "pulse of the planet" and that is why I will be following up with > a series of posts as to how distributed social networking can be made > a reality through open standards (if that stuff is of interest to you > then subscribe and/or follow me for updates). I've also got some > interesting things in the pipeline in relation to standards and > trademarks in general so watch this space. > > Anyway it just goes to show that with trademarks you need to "use it > or lose it". The "propagation delay" of the media has dropped from > months at the outset to near real-time today so companies need to move > fast to protect their marks or lose them forever. As for whether the 1 > July post was a scramble to protect the mark on receipt of the USPTO's > denial, whether the USPTO was acting in response to it, or whether it > was just a coincidence and particularly bad timing I don't know. I > don't really care either as the result is the same, but I would like > to believe that the USPTO is becoming more responsive to the needs of > the community (after all, they revoked Dell's cloud computing > trademark in the days following the uproar, despite having already > issued a "Notice of Allowance" offering it to them).
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
I think the search my username feature has been removed. It now is just Name... You could use the gmail\yahoo\aol integration - http://twitter.com/invitations?service=gmail @Ben_Hall On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Scott Haneda wrote: > > Good point. Why not just send them an email, and offer to let them follow > you? This puts it as a opt in on their part. You can then follow them back > if you desire, which I assume you do. > > Probably not a good idea to do anything of this nature when you are talking > about 400K. > > On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:14 PM, David Fisher wrote: > >> Sounds like something you should be able to do in an email to them or >> with a message on your website. >> >> On Aug 19, 1:29 pm, arawajy wrote: >>> >>> I want to invite them to follow the company on Twitter. >>> >>> On Aug 19, 8:25 pm, Andrew Badera wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, arawajy wrote: >>> > Dear Developers, > I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to > know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a > twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate > lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the > non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom > invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's > owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. > Thanks and Regards, > Mahmoud >>> If they're already your "clients" then what are you inviting them to? > > -- > Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ * > >
[twitter-dev] Re: "about 8 hours ago from API"
I'm using a fast and simple function to send my updates... working with curl
[twitter-dev] oAuth consumer keys, tokens...how sensitive are those keys?
I've written Desktop app that uses oAuth to communicate with twitter. All the keys/tokens/pin I save in Settings file in my project (.NET). Is it safe to do so or what is the better approach to save this kind of data? What if all the tokens get in hand of "evil", they can impersonate the user using the tokens, right? Why won't tokens expire with Twitter? I am knew to internet protocols, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
[twitter-dev] "about 8 hours ago from API"
Hi there ! I wanted to know if it is possible to remove that text when you tweet from an API. Or to change the API word... thanks for help !
[twitter-dev] Twitter's "Tweet" Trademark Torpedoed
[refer to the article itself for the inline links - @samj] Twitter's "Tweet" Trademark Torpedoed http://samj.net/2009/08/twitters-tweet-trademark-torpedoed.html Last month Twitter founder Biz Stone announced in a blog post (May The Tweets Be With You) that they "have applied to trademark Tweet because it is clearly attached to Twitter from a brand perspective". This understandably caused widespread upset as the word "tweet" has been used generically by users for some time as well as in any number of product names by independent software vendors. Here's some samples from the resulting media storm: * CNET News: Is Twitter freaking out over 'tweet' trademark? * TechExpert: Twitter Trying to Trademark "Tweet" * LA Times: Will Twitter trademark 'tweet' before it’s genericized? * PC Magazine: Twitter Trying to Trademark 'Tweet' * TechCrunch: Twitter Grows “Uncomfortable” With The Use Of The Word Tweet In Applications * TechCrunch: Twitter To Developers: “Tweet” Your Heart Out, But Don’t “Twitter” It * Bloomberg: Twitter Lays Claim to ‘Tweet’ Trademark in Bid to Protect Brand What they failed to mention though was that according to USPTO records (#77715815) not only had they actually applied some months before (on 16 April 2009) but that their application had been refused that very same day (1 July 2009). According to documents from the Trademark Document Retrieval system, their lawyers (Fenwick & West LLP) were notified of the rejection by email to tradema...@fenwick.com that day. The USPTO had explained that "marks in prior-filed pending applications may present a bar to registration of applicant’s mark. [...] If the marks in the referenced applications register, applicant’s mark may be refused registration under Trademark Act Section 2(d) because of a likelihood of confusion between the two marks", referencing and attaching not one, not two but three separate trademark applications: * #77695071 for TWEETMARKS (pending receipt of Statement of Use) * #77697186 for COTWEET (pending clarification) * #77701645 for TWEETPHOTO (pending transfer to Supplemental Register) Now I may not be a lawyer (I did play a role in overturning Dell's "cloud computing" and Psion's "Netbook" trademarks) but given all three of the marks identified look like proceeding to registration (it only takes one to rain on their parade), it's my non-expert opinion that Twitter has a snowflake's chance in hell of securing a monopoly over the word "Tweet". That's too bad for Twitter but it's great news for the rest of the community as it's one less tool for locking in Twitter's rapidly growing microblogging monopoly. People do use the word "tweet" generically (including with non-Twitter services) and if Twitter, Inc. were successful in removing it from the public lexicon then we could all suffer in the long run. In any case it is neither serious nor safe for one company to become the "pulse of the planet" and that is why I will be following up with a series of posts as to how distributed social networking can be made a reality through open standards (if that stuff is of interest to you then subscribe and/or follow me for updates). I've also got some interesting things in the pipeline in relation to standards and trademarks in general so watch this space. Anyway it just goes to show that with trademarks you need to "use it or lose it". The "propagation delay" of the media has dropped from months at the outset to near real-time today so companies need to move fast to protect their marks or lose them forever. As for whether the 1 July post was a scramble to protect the mark on receipt of the USPTO's denial, whether the USPTO was acting in response to it, or whether it was just a coincidence and particularly bad timing I don't know. I don't really care either as the result is the same, but I would like to believe that the USPTO is becoming more responsive to the needs of the community (after all, they revoked Dell's cloud computing trademark in the days following the uproar, despite having already issued a "Notice of Allowance" offering it to them).
[twitter-dev] Re: "about 8 hours ago from API"
http://twitter.com/statuses/update.format?source=appname
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
Due to some reasons, the management chose to just invite the ones who're already using twitter, without having to contact every customer and without adding a link on the site.Regards, Mahmoud On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:14 PM, David Fisher wrote: > > Sounds like something you should be able to do in an email to them or > with a message on your website. > > On Aug 19, 1:29 pm, arawajy wrote: > > I want to invite them to follow the company on Twitter. > > > > On Aug 19, 8:25 pm, Andrew Badera wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, arawajy wrote: > > > > > > Dear Developers, > > > > I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to > > > > know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a > > > > twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate > > > > lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for > the > > > > non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a > custom > > > > invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's > > > > owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > Mahmoud > > > > > If they're already your "clients" then what are you inviting them to? > > > > > ∞ Andy Badera > > > ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private > > > ∞ Google me: > http://www.google.com/search?q=(andrew+badera)+OR+(andy+badera) > --
[twitter-dev] Re: API profile image update
Hi Josh, can you please give me / us an hint about what exactly you have done wrong trying to update twitter images in the first place? If you follow the link I posted to Twitter Development Talk, you can see that you are not the only one having the problem with error 500. I don't know why this is the case ... * Perhaps the twitter api documentation is not good enough at this point * Maybe we all make the same mistake * Maybe there is only a blank too much in our request headers (which is ok for most http-servers, but not for twitter) * ... Even after hours of trying I don't know ... So if there is no good reason against it, please post your solution to Twitter Development Talk, so we all can learn. Regards, Mitchel
[twitter-dev] Re: "about 8 hours ago from API"
Eagle1, In order to customer the "from API", your application must authenticate with Twitter using OAuth. There are several libraries available that implement OAuth. What language/platform are you targeting with your development? --Duane On Aug 19, 4:00 pm, Grant Emsley wrote: > Of course you can. It's called oAuth. You should check it out. > > On Aug 19, 3:05 pm, Eagle1 wrote: > > > > > Hi there ! > > > I wanted to know if it is possible to remove that text when you tweet > > from an API. Or to change the API word... > > > thanks for help !
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
Good point. Why not just send them an email, and offer to let them follow you? This puts it as a opt in on their part. You can then follow them back if you desire, which I assume you do. Probably not a good idea to do anything of this nature when you are talking about 400K. On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:14 PM, David Fisher wrote: Sounds like something you should be able to do in an email to them or with a message on your website. On Aug 19, 1:29 pm, arawajy wrote: I want to invite them to follow the company on Twitter. On Aug 19, 8:25 pm, Andrew Badera wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, arawajy wrote: Dear Developers, I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. Thanks and Regards, Mahmoud If they're already your "clients" then what are you inviting them to? -- Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
Sounds like something you should be able to do in an email to them or with a message on your website. On Aug 19, 1:29 pm, arawajy wrote: > I want to invite them to follow the company on Twitter. > > On Aug 19, 8:25 pm, Andrew Badera wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, arawajy wrote: > > > > Dear Developers, > > > I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to > > > know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a > > > twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate > > > lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the > > > non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom > > > invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's > > > owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > Mahmoud > > > If they're already your "clients" then what are you inviting them to? > > > ∞ Andy Badera > > ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private > > ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=(andrew+badera)+OR+(andy+badera)
[twitter-dev] Re: DM Length
Anyone know any more about this? I am curious about this as well. On Aug 18, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Dewald Pretorius wrote: The API documentation says a DM must be under 140 characters. Someone just sent me a DM that has 841 characters. I counted the characters after I fell of my chair and got back on it again. What's up with that? -- Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
I'm not sure the API can do it, someone here can better answer that. I'm not sure the ethics and terms of this, someone here can better answer that. In a roundabout way you can do this. Create a gmail account. Import your list into gmails address book. Login to your Twitter account and tell the account settings to use your gmail account to locate Twitter users based on your gmail address book. With a large list like this, you may have to break it up into batches. You may also be plauged with manually adding them once you see the matches on screen. I can not remember if there is an "add all" feature. Do a small test of 100 adresses. From there, it is basic API calls against your Twitter account to do as you see fit within the terms of the Twitter API and service. I do not think it is possible to query email address data in Twitter other than by the above method with gmail, and a few other providers. Email addresses are private, as they should be. -- Scott Iphone says hello. On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:07 AM, arawajy wrote: Dear Developers, I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. Thanks and Regards, Mahmoud
[twitter-dev] Re: Join us in the #twitterapi IRC channel on freenode
On 8/19/09 11:55 AM, PJB wrote: Usenet, IRC... I am starting to feel like its 1993 all over again! Maybe next we can get a game of Netrek going on NeXt stations! ;) I'm in. Twitter Netrek League! I can probably still fly a mean DD. -- Dossy Shiobara | do...@panoptic.com | http://dossy.org/ Panoptic Computer Network | http://panoptic.com/ "He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on." (p. 70)
[twitter-dev] Re: Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM, arawajy wrote: > > Dear Developers, > I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to > know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a > twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate > lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the > non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom > invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's > owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. > Thanks and Regards, > Mahmoud > If they're already your "clients" then what are you inviting them to? ∞ Andy Badera ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=(andrew+badera)+OR+(andy+badera)
[twitter-dev] Re: Join us in the #twitterapi IRC channel on freenode
Usenet, IRC... I am starting to feel like its 1993 all over again! Maybe next we can get a game of Netrek going on NeXt stations! ;) On Aug 18, 3:35 pm, Marcel Molina wrote: > We've heard your requests for greater transparency and more frequent > communication in the last couple weeks around the fall out from the > DDoS attacks. The Twitter Development Talk mailing list and > @twitterapi account have gone a long way to keeping the conversation > flowing. We want to facilitate even more modes of communication > though. So we've opened up the #twitterapi IRC channel on > irc.freenode.net. We hope to be able to provide some real-time support > when things go awry. Unfortunately, we can't provide 24/7 support via > IRC, but we'll try to be around during deploys, unexpected outages, > and special events. We also envision it as a place for developers to > help each other. So, if you're into IRC, we encourage you to come on > over. > > -- > Marcel Molina > Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/noradio
[twitter-dev] Do My Customers Have a Twitter Account?
Dear Developers, I have a list of 400,000 e-mail addresses of my clients. I want to know "Is it possible to develop a script to check if they have a twitter account or not?". I will then want to generate 2 separate lists based upon the result; one for the twitter users and one for the non-twitter users. I want to only invite the users and create a custom invitation message. Is it possible to check if the e-mail address's owner is a twitter user or not? provide details please. Thanks and Regards, Mahmoud
[twitter-dev] Post status to Twitter mobile version via querystring
A friend of mine is working on an iPhone app that will provide an option to post some text to Twitter via the "status" querystring. For example, http://twitter.com/?status=My%20status%20update. This works fine from a desktop or laptop, but when on an iPhone, Twitter recognizes that it's a mobile device and redirects to m.twitter.com which does not handle the "status" querystring. Anyone know a way to force Twitter to go straight to the non-mobile version or have any other work around? Thanks in advance. Michael
[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API
Another question occurred to me as I think about this more and start designing the code that I will use with my site (http://twxlate.com). The statuses/retweeted_by_me method complements the statuses/ user_timeline method: user_timeline "Returns the 20 most recent statuses posted from the authenticating user."; retweeted_by_me "Returns the 20 most recent retweets posted by the authenticating user.". However, with the user_time method, "It's also possible to request another user's timeline via the id parameter.". The retweeted_by_me method does not have this option, and I think it should. Can this be added? I think maybe the statuses/retweets_of_me method should also have an optional id parameter, but I could be wrong about this. The statuses/retweeted_to_me method also does not have an optional id parameter, but the absence here is, I think, correct. Comments expected and welcome. Jim On Aug 18, 7:35 pm, "jim.renkel" wrote: > Marcel: thank you for the quick response to my questions. > > Not surprisingly, your answers have raised a couple of more > questions. :-) > > 1. What happens if I give aretweetid number to the status/show > method? An error? The retweeted status message is returned along with > information about all of its retweets? I'm really hoping for the > second option here, and, if that is not the case currently, I would > encourage twitter to make that enhancement. It seems to me to be > natural to want information on one specificretweet, just as one can > get specific information on one specific status update. > > For the next 2 questions, assume A is following B and C, that B has > retweeted a status update say two days ago, and C has retweeted the > same status update yesterday. > > 2. In the response to a statuses/home_timeline request for user A, > will the retweeted status update and all its retweeting information be > duplicated at the two appropriate places in the timeline, once for B > and once for C? Or will one or the other be elided? > > 3. If the answer to 2, above, is "the retweeted status update is > duplicated", does the retweeting information reflect the state of the > twitterverse as it exists at the time the request is made or the state > at the time theretweetwas created? Specifically, will the retweeting > information for B'sretweetshow that C has also retweeted it, even > though C hadn't yet retweeted it when B did? > > 4. Assume count=20 is specified on the statuses/home_timeline request. > Does the retweeted status update and all of its retweets count as just > 1 of the 20 status updates in the response (i.e., the response could > have more than 20 elements, potentially way more, but all of the > retweets of a status update would appear in one "page" of the > response)? Or does eachretweetcount as 1 of the 20 (i.e., the > response will have only 20 elements, but the retweets of a single > status update could be spread across many, potentially very many, > pages)? I think it would have to be the former, as "Clients may [only] > request up to 3,200 statuses via the page and count parameters for > timeline RESTAPImethods." (Quoted from theAPIdocumentation under > "6) There are pagination limits".), and if it were the latter ya > couldn't even return all theretweetinformation for a status update > that was retweeted more than 3200 times (Which DOES happen.). > > 5. "statuses/home_timeline" is like "statuses/friends_timeline" but > with retweets. There is no method that is like "statuses/ > user_timeline" but with retweets. It can be synthesized by merging the > results of statuses/user_timeline and statuses/retweeted_by_me method > requests, but only for the authenticating user: the statuses/ > retweeted_by_me method does not take id and user_id parameters as the > statuses/user_timeline method does. I think there's something missing > here: if I can see any users status updates, why can't I see their > retweets? > > 6. There are no methods like "statuses/mentions" and "favorites" but > including retweets (Or do those methods' results now include > retweets?). I see no way at all of synthesizing these. I think these > need to be provided for completeness. > > 7. Similarly, I'm guessing that "statuses/friends" and "statuses/ > followers" responses don't include retweets (But if a user's last > update was aretweet, what do they report? The last update that wasn't > aretweet?). Again, I don't see a way of synthesizing these, and I > think methods that do include retweets need to be provided for > completeness. > > The reason for wanting the completeness is to avoid user confusion. > Users will get used to seeing retweets, when they exist, when the home > timeline is displayed, and assume that if none are displayed, none > exist. I fear that they will then make that same assumption when > mentions, favorites, friends, and followers are displayed: no retweets > displayed, ergo no retweets exist. That may or may not be correct. > > 'Nough for now. > > Comments expected a
[twitter-dev] Re: no SSL on http://twitter.com/login?
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM, divesnob wrote: >> >> For some reason my reply yesterday didn't make it? >> >> I do realize that you can just change http to https. The problem here >> is that twitter is sending people to http://twitter.com/login . >> >> Here's a screencast describing what I mean. >> >> http://www.screenjelly.com/watch/vSrv36yxa4g >> >> -matt >> >> On Aug 17, 7:02 pm, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> https://twitter.com/login >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 18:58, divesnob wrote: >>> >>> > Curious why you're not POSTing over SSL for /login? >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > value="7a401566e00cff4abe1cba6ed4c70bf52d37" >>> > name="authenticity_token"/> >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Damon Clinkscales wrote: > If you look at the form carefully, you'll see this: > > https://twitter.com/sessions";> ^^^ from http://twitter.com/ ^^^ Although, here: http://twitter.com/login it's just /sessions , without the forced https. Yeah, that does seem like an oversight. -damon
[twitter-dev] Re: no SSL on http://twitter.com/login?
If you look at the form carefully, you'll see this: https://twitter.com/sessions";> -damon -- http://twitter.com/damon On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:07 AM, divesnob wrote: > > For some reason my reply yesterday didn't make it? > > I do realize that you can just change http to https. The problem here > is that twitter is sending people to http://twitter.com/login . > > Here's a screencast describing what I mean. > > http://www.screenjelly.com/watch/vSrv36yxa4g > > -matt > > On Aug 17, 7:02 pm, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> https://twitter.com/login >> >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 18:58, divesnob wrote: >> >> > Curious why you're not POSTing over SSL for /login? >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > value="7a401566e00cff4abe1cba6ed4c70bf52d37" >> > name="authenticity_token"/> >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org >> Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham >> Project |http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com >> This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. >> Sent from Madison, Wisconsin, United States
[twitter-dev] Re: no SSL on http://twitter.com/login?
For some reason my reply yesterday didn't make it? I do realize that you can just change http to https. The problem here is that twitter is sending people to http://twitter.com/login . Here's a screencast describing what I mean. http://www.screenjelly.com/watch/vSrv36yxa4g -matt On Aug 17, 7:02 pm, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://twitter.com/login > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 18:58, divesnob wrote: > > > Curious why you're not POSTing over SSL for /login? > > > > > > > > > > value="7a401566e00cff4abe1cba6ed4c70bf52d37" > > name="authenticity_token"/> > > > > > > > > -- > Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org > Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham > Project |http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com > This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. > Sent from Madison, Wisconsin, United States
[twitter-dev] Re: sending a tweet from an ASP.NET form action
When in doubt, read the documentation. GIYF. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Getting-Started ∞ Andy Badera ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=(andrew+badera)+OR+(andy+badera) On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, subquark wrote: > > thank you, I am looking for what terminology to use in searching, not > for someone to "do it" for me. I am new to twitter so not even sure > what "it" is. =p > > And looking for resources so I can self-educate. > > I have done ActionScripting for 10 years and am use to providing links > to good resources as member of that community (I have answered 5,000 > questions on actionsript.org) and I am simply not sure what the lingo > is for an automated tweet? > > thanks again . . . > > > > n Aug 18, 7:45 pm, Andrew Badera wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:45 PM, subquark wrote: >> >> > I don't know where to start (or even the terms to search for) >> > but . . . >> >> > I would like to be able to send a tweet out on the completion of a >> > form to my own account. A user fills out an ASP.NET form and when they >> > submit the form, I would like my Twitter status to update and simply >> > say "another form has been filed+tinyurl". The tiny URL will always >> > be the same. >> >> > It would eventually be used in custom work we do for hotels and their >> > Request For Proposal pages. A user submits an RFP and we would like >> > that hotel's Twitter to reflect that with something like: >> >> > "another conference RFP just submitted - tinyURL" >> >> > Where the URL is simply a link to their blank RFP form. No user data >> > would be passed ever. >> >> > Thank you and thanks for making Twitter pretty much the centre of the >> > social universe! >> >> Well, you can spend some time learning, like most of us here, or you >> can hire someone else to do it. Good luck with your choice. >> >> ∞ Andy Badera >> ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private >> ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=(andrew+badera)+OR+(andy+badera)- >> Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - >
[twitter-dev] Re: Statuses/destroy is returning 400 even though tweet is deleted sucessfully
yes i too encountered this (both status/destroy and direct_messages/destroy are giving 400 error but the status gets deleted successfully. The response text says something like "somehow we could not delete this tweet." On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:38 PM, deepikagupta wrote: > > Hi, > > I am facing an issue with statuses/destroy API call. It returns 400 > (bad request) even though mentioned tweet id is delered sucessfully. > > The method was working fine few days back but started gicing trouble > recently. > > Anyone having same trouble? Is anything wrong with this API call? >
[twitter-dev] Re: sending a tweet from an ASP.NET form action
thank you, I am looking for what terminology to use in searching, not for someone to "do it" for me. I am new to twitter so not even sure what "it" is. =p And looking for resources so I can self-educate. I have done ActionScripting for 10 years and am use to providing links to good resources as member of that community (I have answered 5,000 questions on actionsript.org) and I am simply not sure what the lingo is for an automated tweet? thanks again . . . n Aug 18, 7:45 pm, Andrew Badera wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:45 PM, subquark wrote: > > > I don't know where to start (or even the terms to search for) > > but . . . > > > I would like to be able to send a tweet out on the completion of a > > form to my own account. A user fills out an ASP.NET form and when they > > submit the form, I would like my Twitter status to update and simply > > say "another form has been filed+tinyurl". The tiny URL will always > > be the same. > > > It would eventually be used in custom work we do for hotels and their > > Request For Proposal pages. A user submits an RFP and we would like > > that hotel's Twitter to reflect that with something like: > > > "another conference RFP just submitted - tinyURL" > > > Where the URL is simply a link to their blank RFP form. No user data > > would be passed ever. > > > Thank you and thanks for making Twitter pretty much the centre of the > > social universe! > > Well, you can spend some time learning, like most of us here, or you > can hire someone else to do it. Good luck with your choice. > > ∞ Andy Badera > ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private > ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=(andrew+badera)+OR+(andy+badera)- > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
[twitter-dev] Re: Platform Status Update, Tuesday 2:00pm PST
Hi, I am facing problem while Deleting any Tweet from my application. http://www.twitter.com/statuses/destroy/id.xml always gives me 400 status code but also deletes the tweet. So in my application it is caught as an exception only and error message is shown to user even though tweet is deleted. I am facing this issue only while deleting tweets and mentions. HTTP request for delete seems to be working fine with direct messages and favorites. Please Help me!!! On Aug 19, 8:46 am, djc8080 wrote: > Oops. spoke too soon. Still eradic problems - same symptoms. Incorrect > rate_limit response on statuses/followers when ..ids calls work > perfectly on the same account.
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth + Mobile nightmare
Great, thanks everyone :) On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM, JDG wrote: > That's what you should be doing. There's no reason to get a new Access > Token every time. Per the OAuth spec, you should probably code your app to > handle an expired token gracefully. The spec states that tokens MAY expire > -- Twitter currently does not expire theirs, though. However, that doesn't > mean that they couldn't in the future. > > 2009/8/18 André Arruda > >> I'm thinking about storing the access token in the phone so the user won't >> have to go >> >> through all the auth process everytime the program is opened. >> >> I hope i won't find any new "surprises" by doing this. >> >> >> >> 2009/8/18 Otávio Ribeiro >> >> no.. just the same problem. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:09 PM, AArruda wrote: >>> I've been developing a Java/MIDP Twitter client for the past two months, and i still need a couple more months to publish a beta version. A few days ago i found out that the update source (app name) is no longer customizable unless the client uses OAuth for authentication, which means that any update sent through my client is shown as "from API" instead of my app's name. I understand that OAuth is important for many security reasons, but it still has important issues with mobile applications, forcing the user to open a page through a mobile device, writing down the PIN, switching back to the app and logging in again is just hell. Not to mention the smartphones that don't support programs running in the background. The current API's methods shouldn't be restricted to OAuth unless these issues are solved first. We, developers and mobile users, would be thankful. Is anyone using any other solution for OAuth and mobile devices, if there is any? >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Internets. Serious business. >
[twitter-dev] Statuses/destroy is returning 400 even though tweet is deleted sucessfully
Hi, I am facing an issue with statuses/destroy API call. It returns 400 (bad request) even though mentioned tweet id is delered sucessfully. The method was working fine few days back but started gicing trouble recently. Anyone having same trouble? Is anything wrong with this API call?
[twitter-dev] Re: legal issues - is tweet an official verb in the US language?
Unless someone here is a lawyer, we should probably avoid legal debate- consult with each our own counsels, and move on to doing what we do best (coding). I find these debates are often filled with FUD, misinformation, speculation, a misunderstanding of law, etc The easiest way to get around it is to not use Twitter based words in your company/product name. Otherwise, just do what Biz said and use Tweet. It seems he gave the thumbs up on Tweet. dave fisher On Aug 18, 5:27 pm, Bill Kocik wrote: > On Aug 17, 8:06 am, Nicole Simon wrote: > > > Question: is to tweet an official word in the english language > > both american and english? as in widely used? > > > does the US and UK trademark system reject such applications? > > Microsoft has a registered trademark on Windows. Apple Computer has a > registered trademark on Apple.
[twitter-dev] Getting Back In Twitter Search
I was kicked out of Twitter search because I was only using my Twitter ID as an RSS. This is no longer the case who do I appeal to show that my twitter ID TBAblogs would help make search more relevant? Are there any real people watching?
[twitter-dev] Unable to follow people via API
Hi, Trying to follow people using the API, is providing me a 403 Forbidden response. But this doesn't aways happen, and following famous users doesn't cause any problem. Am I running into any limits/filters? What are they? I verified the inconsistency in following responses manually. The console log is here: http://dpaste.de/bK06/ Thanks in advance.
