[U2] UniData Hash File Viewer

2014-05-20 Thread David A. Green
Before I go and reinvent the wheel, I was wondering if anyone has already
created a program that will display the technical data within an UniData
hash file?  I'm talking Header information, being able to jump to any group,
look at the keys in the group, look at the data in the group, see the
overflow pointers, etc.

I checked the Wiki but didn't see anything like this.

I have written a cool program like this that just allows one to traverse an
OS file, but isn't hash file smart.  Before I go and modify it I thought I'd
ask the list first.

David A. Green
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[U2] New XLr8 Tools release 4.0.22 [ad]

2014-05-20 Thread Doug Averch
Since our last announcement which was several months ago, we at U2logic
have been busy updating our XLr8 Tools.  We have just added UV command to
the Control-Space option.  That means those of us that don't know the
syntax of a command can find while in Eclipse and do not have to consult
the documentation.  VPN's we giving us a lot grief.  We have worked out
those pesky network interfaces while our users are using XLr8 tools in a
VPN environment.  XLr8 Tools work with Unidata and Universe databases only
running in the Eclipse IDE.  Check out our web site for more information at
www.u2logic.com.

v4.0.22 - May 20, 2014
  Add UV documentation commands to Control-Space option.

v4.0.21 - May 9, 2014
  Bugzilla [659] - XLr8Editor Label Sorting by Placement

v4.0.20 - April 12, 2014
  Change licensing use java libs instead of the OS calls.
  Added code to look at at network interfaces especially when using a VPN.

v4.0.19 - April 05, 2014
  XLr8Resizer had a divide by zero error on the custom calculation option.
  Bugzilla [654] - XLr8Editor hangs on looking up key words
  Bugzilla [655] - XLr8Dictionary editor does not allow editing of
non-dictionary data
  Bugzilla [657] - XLr8Editor generates a JNP error for unknown reason

v4.0.18 - March 24, 2014
  XLr8Resizer had un-initialized variable on Unidata when gathering
statistics on the custom option

v4.0.17 - March 12, 2014
  Revert code from bug fix 648
  Cleaned up opens in U2Core java code.

v4.0.15 - March 11, 2014
  Bugzilla [648] - XLr8Editor fails to compile after using the XLr8Installer
  Bugzilla [649] - XLr8Editor UniBasic indexer sometimes errors out.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-15 Thread Oaks, Harold
Great!  Thanks!

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Found the sample code ...
https://u2devzone.rocketsoftware.com/accelerate/articles/soap-api/soap-api



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Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2014 08:59
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

We've been using soap requests (UV10.3.4) to read/write data to a number of web 
service front ends since about this time last year.
I found some sample code somewhere (either Rocket dev zone or pick wiki) to get 
me started.
As Symeon has just mentioned, the soap and other commands in the UV Basic 
extensions manual is where you need to look.
It can be a steep learning curve if you have not done any of this before (it 
certainly was for me and I still don't understand some of it!).



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Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:11
To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org)
Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x


I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe 11+  
(we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and output 
interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a correct 
understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service (a 
SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write to 
this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the other way, 
that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web services, send 
queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see this in the Web 
manual.

If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into 
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another system 
via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.

Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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[U2] SB+ Li# prompt

2014-05-15 Thread Lunt, Bruce
Hi All,

I have an SB+ screen that displays lines of MV related data. All works fine 
except the user wants to auto-fill in the next line number after the current 
last line. I made that adjustment but now if I don't actually enter the new 
line information and want to just F2-Save the screen it jumps back to that new 
last line number. It won't allow me to delete the line number. If I go ahead 
and enter a new line then I get a new line number and it still won't let me 
save the record. And btw the line number is not saved with the record. It is 
just used for display purposes.

I used to do something like this in my long ago past but I cannot remember how 
to make this work. If anyone reading this can suggest what I might be missing I 
would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Bruce Lunt
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Re: [U2] SB+ Li# prompt

2014-05-15 Thread Lunt, Bruce
I figured it out. The Li# was set up as CAD;2. I changed it to C;2 and all is 
well.

Thanks anyway.

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Subject: [U2] SB+ Li# prompt

Hi All,

I have an SB+ screen that displays lines of MV related data. All works fine 
except the user wants to auto-fill in the next line number after the current 
last line. I made that adjustment but now if I don't actually enter the new 
line information and want to just F2-Save the screen it jumps back to that new 
last line number. It won't allow me to delete the line number. If I go ahead 
and enter a new line then I get a new line number and it still won't let me 
save the record. And btw the line number is not saved with the record. It is 
just used for display purposes.

I used to do something like this in my long ago past but I cannot remember how 
to make this work. If anyone reading this can suggest what I might be missing I 
would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Bruce Lunt
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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-14 Thread Symeon Breen
Both consuming web services (soap and otherwise) from within uv and serving
as a web service  have been in uv for years and years.

Consuming is done within data basic - see the extensions manuals.
Serving is done either using uniobject.net/java and creating a .net or java
webservice (my preference), or using the u2 web services tool.




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Sent: 13 May 2014 18:11
To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org)
Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x


I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe
11+  (we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and
output interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a
correct understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service
(a SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write
to this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the
other way, that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web
services, send queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see
this in the Web manual.   

If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another
system via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.


Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-14 Thread Peter Cheney
We've been using soap requests (UV10.3.4) to read/write data to a number of web 
service front ends since about this time last year.
I found some sample code somewhere (either Rocket dev zone or pick wiki) to get 
me started.
As Symeon has just mentioned, the soap and other commands in the UV Basic 
extensions manual is where you need to look.
It can be a steep learning curve if you have not done any of this before (it 
certainly was for me and I still don't understand some of it!).



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To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org)
Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x


I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe 11+  
(we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and output 
interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a correct 
understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service (a 
SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write to 
this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the other way, 
that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web services, send 
queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see this in the Web 
manual.

If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into 
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another system 
via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.

Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-14 Thread Peter Cheney
Found the sample code ...
https://u2devzone.rocketsoftware.com/accelerate/articles/soap-api/soap-api



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cheney
Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2014 08:59
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

We've been using soap requests (UV10.3.4) to read/write data to a number of web 
service front ends since about this time last year.
I found some sample code somewhere (either Rocket dev zone or pick wiki) to get 
me started.
As Symeon has just mentioned, the soap and other commands in the UV Basic 
extensions manual is where you need to look.
It can be a steep learning curve if you have not done any of this before (it 
certainly was for me and I still don't understand some of it!).



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Oaks, Harold
Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:11
To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org)
Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x


I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe 11+  
(we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and output 
interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a correct 
understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service (a 
SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write to 
this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the other way, 
that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web services, send 
queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see this in the Web 
manual.

If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into 
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another system 
via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.

Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-14 Thread Peter Cheney
Hi Bernard, I did not know about the library search feature having always 
believed (probably from my Reality days) that you had to catalog a subroutines 
in order to call it. Obviously cataloguing is required if the SR is in a 
different library but I never gave it a second thought. Curiosity got the 
better of me and so I tried it and yes it does work as you described.
Cheers and thanks
Peter




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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Lubin
Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:44
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

You will need to do a system(9001) to get the program stack This will tell you 
the subroutine that is being called.

To get the library, first check the VOC for the external subroutine.  If there 
is no VOC pointer for that item, check the VOC pointer for the calling program.

As far as I remember, when calling a subroutine, UniVerse first checks the VOC 
for the program name to determine the program library where the program 
resides..  If the VOC entry is not present, it uses the library of the calling 
program.  I do not know how far back the stack it will go.. (Hopefully all the 
way to the first program)

Hope that helps.

Rgds


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Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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I just ran a test where a main program called an external subroutine In the 
external subroutine I had it display system(9001)

The subroutine name was listed in that display as was the main routine which 
had called it




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Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


I think the point has been lost.
The person is requesting the name of the CURRENT ROUTINE
If that is A SUBROUTINE - there is no @ that I know of that returns the name of 
the currently executing routine.
The fact the CALLING routine knows the name is #1, is of no value to this 
request and #2, lends nothing to any routine being self-aware.

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On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

I totally agree with and endorse your programming standards David.
However if the program is calling another subroutine it should know the name of 
that subroutine or be able to derive it if it is called with an @.

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:45 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE EVER.  @sentence cannot work.

The stub program that launched an initial program will be in the @sentence...
You could be 3 calls deep into external subroutines - there is nothing in 
@sentence re: the call-stack.
Our shop writes *very* few stub programs - most are subroutines called by other 
subroutines.

Instead:
Add
   PGID=programName
Or even
   PGID=filename  ProgramName
To the top of the program - quick and easy.
Use of system routines such as SYSTEM(9001) is usually overkill.

Your program should be aware of it's name - if no other reasons than:
*  display on the screen to help users identify where their problem came from
*  print on reports
*  add to log-file entries
+ and of course, to answer the original question:  how can I read the
+ current
program source

A well-designed system/program should hard-code as little as possible as well.
What better key to use for a configuration record than the program name itself.


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On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:39 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

That's true - if the subroutines are catalogued with a noxref clause you're 
screwed.

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:19 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

Wont work --- if you use any external subroutines.

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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread Ross Ferris
We have something similar that is built into our Visage product that we call 
Snippet Technology. It is totally language neutral, and at a pure programming 
level provides a recursive, extensible pre-compiler that can produce platform 
specific and optimised code from a single code base, but we also harness the 
facility to power things like our multi-lingual capabilities and web page 
generation.

However, I still cannot see where Will has explained why/what he will do once 
he has program code in a variable ... what is the end game/objective?

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage  Better by Design!

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:28 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

I saw on one PICK system, a precompiler language. It was the same as 
PICK/BASIC, but had a preprocessor to it.

So, for example to get the user number on a Universe system you would use 
USER.NO=@USER.NO

On a PICK system, it would be USER.NO=OCONV(0,'U50BB')

Rather than write it into the program to check what system it is on (since 
sometimes it could be different functions or statements used that never even 
compile), then would do something like:

USER.NO=%GET USERNO%

The precompiler would look at the control table and translate the '%GET 
USERNO%' to the appropriate statement, then compile.

I've seen software that was so generic it would run on any version of 
Multivalue system and sometimes even non-Multivalue systems.

Robert Norman

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R/BASIC (REVELATION BASIC) for REVELATION TECHOLOGIES REVELATION, in JBASIC 
(JBC or JBASE BASIC) for TEMENOS JBASE, in DATA/BASIC for Northgate REALITY, in 
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Ladybridge OPENQM (QM).

On 5/12/2014 4:33 PM, Adrian Overs wrote:
 What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
 After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO 
 BP.FV THEN READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

 Sent from my iPad

 On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


 Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
 So something like this

 GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

 READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

 the program reads itself.

 Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread Robert

Awesome feature Ross that you have in your Stamina product.

Is there a link to an article, example, or manual describing it in detail?

That way I can forward it to any Universe client inquiring about those 
features.



I have seen Brian Leach's source code and he has the program information 
embedded in a variable like this:


.
.
.
*
* Modification History
* ---
VERDATA=''
VERDATA := 'Version=001009003;'
VERDATA := 'VerModVer=00100;'
VERDATA := 'VerBeta=;'
VERDATA := 'VerDate=15134;'
VERDATA := 'VerProd=ENTER;'
VERDATA := 'VerModule=;'
VERDATA := 'VerTM=;'
VERDATA := 'VerCopy=2005 Brian Leach Consulting Limited;'
VERDATA := 'VerCo=Brian Leach Consulting Limited;'
VERDATA := 'VerDesc=ENTER Screen Entry Processor;'
VERDATA := 'CatName=ENTER;'
VERDATA := 'VerHist=07 JUN 09 1.9.3 auto;'
.
.
.

I am wondering if Wjhonson would be better off doing something like 
Brian's example above. This way the program has the program information 
during run-time (as a variable) and it also is available to any source 
code parsers (as long as he adheres to the standard).


Robert Norman

ROBERT NORMAN AND ASSOCIATES
23441 Golden Springs Dr., #289, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
(323) 285-7272, (951) 541-1668
i...@keyway.net
http://universe-basic-programming.webstarts.com/index.html
http://users.keyway.net/~ice/
http://www.affordablemultivalueprogramming.i8.com/
Computer programming  software development in Universe BASIC for Rocket 
Universe, in PICK/BASIC for Rocket D3, in UNIBASIC
for Rocket Unidata, in R/BASIC (REVELATION BASIC) for REVELATION 
TECHOLOGIES REVELATION, in JBASIC (JBC or JBASE BASIC) for
TEMENOS JBASE, in DATA/BASIC for Northgate REALITY, in MV BASIC 
(Multivalue Basic) for Intersystems Cache Multivalue, and

QMBASIC for Ladybridge OPENQM (QM).

On 5/13/2014 6:52 AM, Ross Ferris wrote:

We have something similar that is built into our Visage product that we call 
Snippet Technology. It is totally language neutral, and at a pure programming 
level provides a recursive, extensible pre-compiler that can produce platform specific 
and optimised code from a single code base, but we also harness the facility to power 
things like our multi-lingual capabilities and web page generation.

However, I still cannot see where Will has explained why/what he will do once 
he has program code in a variable ... what is the end game/objective?

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage  Better by Design!

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:28 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

I saw on one PICK system, a precompiler language. It was the same as 
PICK/BASIC, but had a preprocessor to it.

So, for example to get the user number on a Universe system you would use 
USER.NO=@USER.NO

On a PICK system, it would be USER.NO=OCONV(0,'U50BB')

Rather than write it into the program to check what system it is on (since 
sometimes it could be different functions or statements used that never even 
compile), then would do something like:

USER.NO=%GET USERNO%

The precompiler would look at the control table and translate the '%GET 
USERNO%' to the appropriate statement, then compile.

I've seen software that was so generic it would run on any version of 
Multivalue system and sometimes even non-Multivalue systems.

Robert Norman

ROBERT NORMAN AND ASSOCIATES
23441 Golden Springs Dr., #289, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
(323) 285-7272, (951) 541-1668
i...@keyway.net
http://universe-basic-programming.webstarts.com/index.html
http://users.keyway.net/~ice/
http://www.affordablemultivalueprogramming.i8.com/
Computer programming  software development in Universe BASIC for Rocket 
Universe, in PICK/BASIC for Rocket D3, in UNIBASIC for Rocket Unidata, in R/BASIC 
(REVELATION BASIC) for REVELATION TECHOLOGIES REVELATION, in JBASIC (JBC or JBASE 
BASIC) for TEMENOS JBASE, in DATA/BASIC for Northgate REALITY, in MV BASIC 
(Multivalue Basic) for Intersystems Cache Multivalue, and QMBASIC for Ladybridge 
OPENQM (QM).

On 5/12/2014 4:33 PM, Adrian Overs wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO
BP.FV THEN READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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[U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread Oaks, Harold

I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe 11+  
(we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and output 
interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a correct 
understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service (a 
SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write to 
this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the other way, 
that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web services, send 
queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see this in the Web 
manual.   

If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into 
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another system 
via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.  

Thanks-
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Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread Wjhonson

This can be broken simply by copying the program to some other location, 
without changing the variables.
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Robert i...@keyway.net
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Awesome feature Ross that you have in your Stamina product.

Is there a link to an article, example, or manual describing it in detail?

That way I can forward it to any Universe client inquiring about those 
features.


I have seen Brian Leach's source code and he has the program information 
embedded in a variable like this:

.
.
.
*
* Modification History
* ---
VERDATA=''
VERDATA := 'Version=001009003;'
VERDATA := 'VerModVer=00100;'
VERDATA := 'VerBeta=;'
VERDATA := 'VerDate=15134;'
VERDATA := 'VerProd=ENTER;'
VERDATA := 'VerModule=;'
VERDATA := 'VerTM=;'
VERDATA := 'VerCopy=2005 Brian Leach Consulting Limited;'
VERDATA := 'VerCo=Brian Leach Consulting Limited;'
VERDATA := 'VerDesc=ENTER Screen Entry Processor;'
VERDATA := 'CatName=ENTER;'
VERDATA := 'VerHist=07 JUN 09 1.9.3 auto;'
.
.
.

I am wondering if Wjhonson would be better off doing something like 
Brian's example above. This way the program has the program information 
during run-time (as a variable) and it also is available to any source 
code parsers (as long as he adheres to the standard).

Robert Norman

ROBERT NORMAN AND ASSOCIATES
23441 Golden Springs Dr., #289, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
(323) 285-7272, (951) 541-1668
i...@keyway.net
http://universe-basic-programming.webstarts.com/index.html
http://users.keyway.net/~ice/
http://www.affordablemultivalueprogramming.i8.com/
Computer programming  software development in Universe BASIC for Rocket 
Universe, in PICK/BASIC for Rocket D3, in UNIBASIC
for Rocket Unidata, in R/BASIC (REVELATION BASIC) for REVELATION 
TECHOLOGIES REVELATION, in JBASIC (JBC or JBASE BASIC) for
TEMENOS JBASE, in DATA/BASIC for Northgate REALITY, in MV BASIC 
(Multivalue Basic) for Intersystems Cache Multivalue, and
QMBASIC for Ladybridge OPENQM (QM).

On 5/13/2014 6:52 AM, Ross Ferris wrote:
 We have something similar that is built into our Visage product that we call 
Snippet Technology. It is totally language neutral, and at a pure programming 
level provides a recursive, extensible pre-compiler that can produce platform 
specific and optimised code from a single code base, but we also harness the 
facility to power things like our multi-lingual capabilities and web page 
generation.

 However, I still cannot see where Will has explained why/what he will do once 
he has program code in a variable ... what is the end game/objective?

 Ross Ferris
 Stamina Software
 Visage  Better by Design!

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Robert
 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:28 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

 I saw on one PICK system, a precompiler language. It was the same as 
PICK/BASIC, but had a preprocessor to it.

 So, for example to get the user number on a Universe system you would use 
USER.NO=@USER.NO

 On a PICK system, it would be USER.NO=OCONV(0,'U50BB')

 Rather than write it into the program to check what system it is on (since 
sometimes it could be different functions or statements used that never even 
compile), then would do something like:

 USER.NO=%GET USERNO%

 The precompiler would look at the control table and translate the '%GET 
USERNO%' to the appropriate statement, then compile.

 I've seen software that was so generic it would run on any version of 
Multivalue system and sometimes even non-Multivalue systems.

 Robert Norman

 ROBERT NORMAN AND ASSOCIATES
 23441 Golden Springs Dr., #289, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
 (323) 285-7272, (951) 541-1668
 i...@keyway.net
 http://universe-basic-programming.webstarts.com/index.html
 http://users.keyway.net/~ice/
 http://www.affordablemultivalueprogramming.i8.com/
 Computer programming  software development in Universe BASIC for Rocket 
Universe, in PICK/BASIC for Rocket D3, in UNIBASIC for Rocket Unidata, in 
R/BASIC (REVELATION BASIC) for REVELATION TECHOLOGIES REVELATION, in JBASIC 
(JBC 
or JBASE BASIC) for TEMENOS JBASE, in DATA/BASIC for Northgate REALITY, in MV 
BASIC (Multivalue Basic) for Intersystems Cache Multivalue, and QMBASIC for 
Ladybridge OPENQM (QM).

 On 5/12/2014 4:33 PM, Adrian Overs wrote:
 What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
 After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO
 BP.FV THEN READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

 Sent from my iPad

 On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


 Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable 
?
 So something like this

 GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

 READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

 

Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread George Gallen
Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and checks 
if the VERDATA element
For the program name matches the @ID in the program file - if not email someone 
to fix it.

Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it 
wouldn't be that way 
For long.

George

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:13 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


This can be broken simply by copying the program to some other location, 
without changing the variables.
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Robert i...@keyway.net
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Awesome feature Ross that you have in your Stamina product.

Is there a link to an article, example, or manual describing it in detail?

That way I can forward it to any Universe client inquiring about those 
features.


I have seen Brian Leach's source code and he has the program information 
embedded in a variable like this:

.
.
.
*
* Modification History
* ---
VERDATA=''
VERDATA := 'Version=001009003;'
VERDATA := 'VerModVer=00100;'
VERDATA := 'VerBeta=;'
VERDATA := 'VerDate=15134;'
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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread Wjhonson

Well do you see any problem in just using the SYSTEM(9001) and ignoring 
embedding this information ?
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:27 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and checks 
if the VERDATA element
For the program name matches the @ID in the program file - if not email someone 
to fix it.

Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it 
wouldn't 
be that way 
For long.

George

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:13 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


This can be broken simply by copying the program to some other location, 
without 
changing the variables.
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Robert i...@keyway.net
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Awesome feature Ross that you have in your Stamina product.

Is there a link to an article, example, or manual describing it in detail?

That way I can forward it to any Universe client inquiring about those 
features.


I have seen Brian Leach's source code and he has the program information 
embedded in a variable like this:

.
.
.
*
* Modification History
* ---
VERDATA=''
VERDATA := 'Version=001009003;'
VERDATA := 'VerModVer=00100;'
VERDATA := 'VerBeta=;'
VERDATA := 'VerDate=15134;'
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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread Nancy Fisher
We query outside services for information via soap.
Universe 10.3.

Nancy Fisher
Federal Way, Washington

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:21 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus
 
 
 
 
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From: Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.gov
To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org)
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:11 am
Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x



I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe
11+ (we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and
output interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a
correct understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service
(a SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write
to this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the
other way, that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web
services, send queries to 
them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see this in the Web manual.


If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another
system via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.


Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread George Gallen
Does the 9001 call work for subroutines, or just the main program?

Also, it's platform specific

It all depends on what your trying to do, if the 9001 call works, great, if not 
figure something else out.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:31 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Well do you see any problem in just using the SYSTEM(9001) and ignoring 
embedding this information ?
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:27 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and checks 
if the VERDATA element
For the program name matches the @ID in the program file - if not email someone 
to fix it.

Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it 
wouldn't 
be that way 
For long.

George


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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread Richard Lewis
We have been using a SOAP interface on 10.2 or 10.3 (I forget now which)
and are now on 11.1.  We have also successfully used curl to from within UV
to interact with a web service on 11.1, on linux.

Richard Lewis



On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govwrote:


 I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe
 11+  (we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input
 and output interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this
 is a correct understanding.

 It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service
 (a SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write
 to this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the
 other way, that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web
 services, send queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't
 see this in the Web manual.

 If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into
 Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

 Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another
 system via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.

 Thanks-
 Harold Oaks
 Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread Wjhonson

I had posted an update, that I had tried it (it returns the program stack)
Its System(9001), and it will return the subroutine names in the stack as well 
as the main program (on Universe 11 anyway)
 
Someone has to try this on Unidata, and on D3 to make sure it also returns the 
subroutine name.
 
What it returns is the absolute path, so you would still need a program to 
translate this into a LOCAL file name and program id, which is, to what, I'm 
trying to get.
 
Like I mentioned, I'm sure there is a way to do it, it's just a question of 
whether someone has a routine which *does* this already, and the answer is 
apparently not, so if I have to roll my own.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:40 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Does the 9001 call work for subroutines, or just the main program?

Also, it's platform specific

It all depends on what your trying to do, if the 9001 call works, great, if not 
figure something else out.

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:31 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Well do you see any problem in just using the SYSTEM(9001) and ignoring 
embedding this information ?
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:27 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and checks 
if the VERDATA element
For the program name matches the @ID in the program file - if not email someone 
to fix it.

Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it 
wouldn't 

be that way 
For long.

George


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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread Wjhonson

Wget however only works to pull pages in correct?
You can't actually communicate both ways.
 
 
 
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From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:56 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x


We use wget on 10.0.2 / linux  - works but setting up the header lines
Is kludgy.  But since it works we havn't migrated to curl yet.

George

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Richard Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:53 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

We have been using a SOAP interface on 10.2 or 10.3 (I forget now which)
and are now on 11.1.  We have also successfully used curl to from within UV
to interact with a web service on 11.1, on linux.

Richard Lewis



On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govwrote:


 I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe
 11+  (we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input
 and output interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this
 is a correct understanding.

 It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service
 (a SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write
 to this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the
 other way, that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web
 services, send queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't
 see this in the Web manual.

 If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into
 Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

 Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another
 system via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.

 Thanks-
 Harold Oaks
 Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread George Gallen
Unless I'm doing it wrongdidn't look it up.

For me - on UV 10.0.2

PRINT SYSTEM(9001)
STOP
END

Outputs

RUN LIB TEST
0

George

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I had posted an update, that I had tried it (it returns the program stack)
Its System(9001), and it will return the subroutine names in the stack as well 
as the main program (on Universe 11 anyway)
 
Someone has to try this on Unidata, and on D3 to make sure it also returns the 
subroutine name.
 
What it returns is the absolute path, so you would still need a program to 
translate this into a LOCAL file name and program id, which is, to what, I'm 
trying to get.
 
Like I mentioned, I'm sure there is a way to do it, it's just a question of 
whether someone has a routine which *does* this already, and the answer is 
apparently not, so if I have to roll my own.
 
 
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Does the 9001 call work for subroutines, or just the main program?

Also, it's platform specific

It all depends on what your trying to do, if the 9001 call works, great, if not 
figure something else out.

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Well do you see any problem in just using the SYSTEM(9001) and ignoring 
embedding this information ?
 
 
 
 
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Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and checks 
if the VERDATA element
For the program name matches the @ID in the program file - if not email someone 
to fix it.

Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it 
wouldn't 

be that way 
For long.

George


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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread George Gallen
We use wget on 10.0.2 / linux  - works but setting up the header lines
Is kludgy.  But since it works we havn't migrated to curl yet.

George

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We have been using a SOAP interface on 10.2 or 10.3 (I forget now which)
and are now on 11.1.  We have also successfully used curl to from within UV
to interact with a web service on 11.1, on linux.

Richard Lewis



On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govwrote:


 I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe
 11+  (we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input
 and output interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this
 is a correct understanding.

 It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service
 (a SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write
 to this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the
 other way, that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web
 services, send queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't
 see this in the Web manual.

 If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into
 Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

 Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another
 system via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.

 Thanks-
 Harold Oaks
 Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread George Gallen
As far as I know - it's just consumes.

We use a different system for serving - which is XML based and a combination of 
PERL and linux script.

George

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Wget however only works to pull pages in correct?
You can't actually communicate both ways.
 
 
 
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Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:56 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x


We use wget on 10.0.2 / linux  - works but setting up the header lines
Is kludgy.  But since it works we havn't migrated to curl yet.

George

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Subject: Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

We have been using a SOAP interface on 10.2 or 10.3 (I forget now which)
and are now on 11.1.  We have also successfully used curl to from within UV
to interact with a web service on 11.1, on linux.

Richard Lewis



On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govwrote:


 I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe
 11+  (we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input
 and output interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this
 is a correct understanding.

 It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service
 (a SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write
 to this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the
 other way, that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web
 services, send queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't
 see this in the Web manual.

 If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into
 Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

 Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another
 system via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.

 Thanks-
 Harold Oaks
 Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread Oaks, Harold
Nancy:
Great!  Is there any possibility of you sending me some sample code?  I may not 
be able to make it work at 10.2, but it would be instructive to try.  If there 
are security or proprietary issues, or just your time issues, I understand.
Thanks-
Harold

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:33 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
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We query outside services for information via soap.
Universe 10.3.

Nancy Fisher
Federal Way, Washington

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:11 am
Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x



I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe
11+ (we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input 
11+ and
output interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a 
correct understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service (a 
SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write to 
this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the other way, 
that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web services, send 
queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see this in the Web 
manual.


If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another
system via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.


Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread Oaks, Harold
Right, Enterprise Service Bus.  Thanks.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:11 am
Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x



I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe 11+ 
(we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and output 
interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a correct 
understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service (a 
SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write to 
this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the other way, 
that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web services, send 
queries to 
them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see this in the Web manual.   

If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into 
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another system 
via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.  

Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread John Hester
You could definitely do that.  I wrote a utility nearly 20 years ago that still 
does something similar to all our BPs on a weekly basis.  We were about to 
convert from Ulitimate to UV in '96 and needed to avoid wasting time modifying 
programs that weren't being used.  I needed something to log every program's 
recent execution times by program name.  The utility goes through all the BPs 
and makes sure there's a call to a subroutine named TRACKER at the beginning 
that passes the program's name as an argument.  It also makes sure that if the 
call is already there, it is referencing the correct program name, insuring a 
copied program will log itself correctly.  Here's the section of code that 
installs the call:

0058: IF ADD OR RPLC THEN
0059:   LINE = CALL TRACKER(':PROG.NO:')
0060:   IF ADD THEN
0061: INS LINE BEFORE ITEM.BPLINE.NO
0062:   END ELSE
0063: ITEM.BPLINE.NO = LINE
0064:   END
0065:   WRITE ITEM.BP ON FILE.BP, PROG.NO
0066:   RECOMPILE.LIST-1 = PROG.NO
0067: END

The TRACKER subroutine logs the 40 most recent executions both by program and 
by user.

-John

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Actually, expounding on that. You could have a program insert the program and 
file name into a program

Not recompile - just the source

Then as you get a chance to modify each program to become self aware (the first 
step to Activating the MATRIX) then you would compile/catalog.

George

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Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and checks 
if the VERDATA element For the program name matches the @ID in the program file 
- if not email someone to fix it.

Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it 
wouldn't be that way For long.

George

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This can be broken simply by copying the program to some other location, 
without changing the variables.
 
 
 
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Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Awesome feature Ross that you have in your Stamina product.

Is there a link to an article, example, or manual describing it in detail?

That way I can forward it to any Universe client inquiring about those features.


I have seen Brian Leach's source code and he has the program information 
embedded in a variable like this:

.
.
.
*
* Modification History
* ---
VERDATA=''
VERDATA := 'Version=001009003;'
VERDATA := 'VerModVer=00100;'
VERDATA := 'VerBeta=;'
VERDATA := 'VerDate=15134;'
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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread Bill Haskett

Harold:

Maybe you'd be interested in:

https://u2devzone.rocketsoftware.com/accelerate/resources/videos/rest

HTH,

Bill

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*Date:* 5/13/2014 11:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

Right, Enterprise Service Bus.  Thanks.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus

  
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From: Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.gov
To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org) u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:11 am
Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x

I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe 11+ 
(we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and output 
interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a correct 
understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service (a 
SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write to 
this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the other way, 
that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web services, send 
queries to
them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see this in the Web manual.

If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into 
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another system 
via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.

Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread Will Johnson

I'm not trying to active the Matrix George.
Just writing a worm which can survive inside the Matrix and keep my 
consciousness intact long enough until Neo shows up.
 
 
 
 
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To: Will Johnson wjhon...@aol.com
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: Read yourself


Actually, expounding on that. You could have a program insert the 
program and file name into a program

Not recompile - just the source

Then as you get a chance to modify each program to become self aware (the first 
step to 
Activating the MATRIX) then you would compile/catalog.

George

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Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:27 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and checks 
if the VERDATA element
For the program name matches the @ID in the program file - if not email someone 
to fix it.

Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it 
wouldn't be that way 
For long.

George

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To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


This can be broken simply by copying the program to some other location, 
without changing the variables.
 
 
 
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To: U2 Users List [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Awesome feature Ross that you have in your Stamina product.

Is there a link to an article, example, or manual describing it in detail?

That way I can forward it to any Universe client inquiring about those 
features.


I have seen Brian Leach's source code and he has the program information 
embedded in a variable like this:

.
.
.
*
* Modification History
* ---
VERDATA=''
VERDATA := 'Version=001009003;'
VERDATA := 'VerModVer=00100;'
VERDATA := 'VerBeta=;'
VERDATA := 'VerDate=15134;'
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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread Richard Lewis
George,

It's better illustrated by multiple call levels.  A colleague here wrote
these specifically to test this:

 STACK.1
SUBROUTINE STACK.1
CRT ||
CRT CHANGE(SYSTEM(9001), @AM, CHAR(13):CHAR(10))
CRT ||
RETURN

 STACK.2
SUBROUTINE STACK.2
  CALL STACK.1
RETURN

 STACK.WRAP
CRT @(-1)
CALL STACK.2

And here's the results:


||
3ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.1ý0x6
2ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.2ý0x0
1ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.WRAPý0xe

||

Best Regards,
Richard Lewis


On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote:

 Unless I'm doing it wrongdidn't look it up.

 For me - on UV 10.0.2

 PRINT SYSTEM(9001)
 STOP
 END

 Outputs

 RUN LIB TEST
 0

 George

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 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:55 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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 I had posted an update, that I had tried it (it returns the program stack)
 Its System(9001), and it will return the subroutine names in the stack as
 well as the main program (on Universe 11 anyway)

 Someone has to try this on Unidata, and on D3 to make sure it also returns
 the subroutine name.

 What it returns is the absolute path, so you would still need a program to
 translate this into a LOCAL file name and program id, which is, to what,
 I'm trying to get.

 Like I mentioned, I'm sure there is a way to do it, it's just a question
 of whether someone has a routine which *does* this already, and the answer
 is apparently not, so if I have to roll my own.


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 From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
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 Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:40 am
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 Does the 9001 call work for subroutines, or just the main program?

 Also, it's platform specific

 It all depends on what your trying to do, if the 9001 call works, great,
 if not
 figure something else out.

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 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 Well do you see any problem in just using the SYSTEM(9001) and ignoring
 embedding this information ?




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 From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
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 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and
 checks
 if the VERDATA element
 For the program name matches the @ID in the program file - if not email
 someone
 to fix it.

 Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it
 wouldn't

 be that way
 For long.

 George


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread Wjhonson

Its entirely possible this feature did not exist on UV 10.0 
 
 
 
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Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 1:46 pm
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George,

It's better illustrated by multiple call levels.  A colleague here wrote
these specifically to test this:

 STACK.1
SUBROUTINE STACK.1
CRT ||
CRT CHANGE(SYSTEM(9001), @AM, CHAR(13):CHAR(10))
CRT ||
RETURN

 STACK.2
SUBROUTINE STACK.2
  CALL STACK.1
RETURN

 STACK.WRAP
CRT @(-1)
CALL STACK.2

And here's the results:


||
3ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.1ý0x6
2ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.2ý0x0
1ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.WRAPý0xe

||

Best Regards,
Richard Lewis


On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote:

 Unless I'm doing it wrongdidn't look it up.

 For me - on UV 10.0.2

 PRINT SYSTEM(9001)
 STOP
 END

 Outputs

 RUN LIB TEST
 0

 George

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 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:55 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 I had posted an update, that I had tried it (it returns the program stack)
 Its System(9001), and it will return the subroutine names in the stack as
 well as the main program (on Universe 11 anyway)

 Someone has to try this on Unidata, and on D3 to make sure it also returns
 the subroutine name.

 What it returns is the absolute path, so you would still need a program to
 translate this into a LOCAL file name and program id, which is, to what,
 I'm trying to get.

 Like I mentioned, I'm sure there is a way to do it, it's just a question
 of whether someone has a routine which *does* this already, and the answer
 is apparently not, so if I have to roll my own.


 -Original Message-
 From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:40 am
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 Does the 9001 call work for subroutines, or just the main program?

 Also, it's platform specific

 It all depends on what your trying to do, if the 9001 call works, great,
 if not
 figure something else out.

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 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org]
 On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:31 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 Well do you see any problem in just using the SYSTEM(9001) and ignoring
 embedding this information ?




 -Original Message-
 From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:27 am
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and
 checks
 if the VERDATA element
 For the program name matches the @ID in the program file - if not email
 someone
 to fix it.

 Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it
 wouldn't

 be that way
 For long.

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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread Oaks, Harold
Thanks Bill.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:37 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

Harold:

Maybe you'd be interested in:

https://u2devzone.rocketsoftware.com/accelerate/resources/videos/rest

HTH,

Bill

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*From:* harold.o...@clark.wa.gov
*To:* 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 5/13/2014 11:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x
 Right, Enterprise Service Bus.  Thanks.

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 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:21 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x


 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus

   
 -Original Message-
 From: Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.gov
 To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org) 
 u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:11 am
 Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x

 I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe 11+ 
 (we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and 
 output interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a 
 correct understanding.

 It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web 
 service (a SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I 
 write to this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the 
 other way, that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web 
 services, send queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see 
 this in the Web manual.

 If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into 
 Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

 Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another system 
 via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.

 Thanks-
 Harold Oaks
 Clark County, WA

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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-13 Thread Bill Haskett

Richard:

This is exactly what appears in UniData's SYSTEM(49) function call, 
although in reverse order.


5 Dev (0)- BPTEST CRT SYSTEM(49) ; END

Compiling Unibasic: SAVEDLISTS\BpTest_332397981 in mode 'p'.
compilation finished

1²E:\AboEnterprise\Abo\BP\BP\_START.STACK²32■2²E:\AboEnterprise\Abo\BP\BP\_TCL.SHELL²1161■3²E:\AboEnterprise\Abo\BP\BP\_BPTEST²104■4²SAVEDLISTS\_BpTest_332397981²1■

Bill
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*From:* rbl...@gmail.com
*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 5/13/2014 1:46 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Read yourself

George,

It's better illustrated by multiple call levels.  A colleague here wrote
these specifically to test this:

  STACK.1
SUBROUTINE STACK.1
CRT ||
CRT CHANGE(SYSTEM(9001), @AM, CHAR(13):CHAR(10))
CRT ||
RETURN

  STACK.2
SUBROUTINE STACK.2
   CALL STACK.1
RETURN

  STACK.WRAP
CRT @(-1)
CALL STACK.2

And here's the results:


||
3ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.1ý0x6
2ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.2ý0x0
1ý/(absolute path)/BP.O/STACK.WRAPý0xe

||

Best Regards,
Richard Lewis


On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote:


Unless I'm doing it wrongdidn't look it up.

For me - on UV 10.0.2

PRINT SYSTEM(9001)
STOP
END

Outputs


RUN LIB TEST

0

George

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:55 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


I had posted an update, that I had tried it (it returns the program stack)
Its System(9001), and it will return the subroutine names in the stack as
well as the main program (on Universe 11 anyway)

Someone has to try this on Unidata, and on D3 to make sure it also returns
the subroutine name.

What it returns is the absolute path, so you would still need a program to
translate this into a LOCAL file name and program id, which is, to what,
I'm trying to get.

Like I mentioned, I'm sure there is a way to do it, it's just a question
of whether someone has a routine which *does* this already, and the answer
is apparently not, so if I have to roll my own.


-Original Message-
From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:40 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Does the 9001 call work for subroutines, or just the main program?

Also, it's platform specific

It all depends on what your trying to do, if the 9001 call works, great,
if not
figure something else out.

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org]
On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:31 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Well do you see any problem in just using the SYSTEM(9001) and ignoring
embedding this information ?




-Original Message-
From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 13, 2014 10:27 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


Then you would need to write another program that scans the programs and
checks
if the VERDATA element
For the program name matches the @ID in the program file - if not email
someone
to fix it.

Then have it run nightly - so if it did get cloned without changing, it
wouldn't

be that way
For long.

George


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Re: [U2] Web services at 11.x

2014-05-13 Thread Larry Hiscock
Consuming webservices from the outside world is relatively trivial in UV 11
(and 10.x).  Look in the Basic Extensions manual for details.  

Larry Hiscock
Western Computer Services

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Oaks, Harold
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:11 AM
To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org)
Subject: [U2] Web services at 11.x


I have been telling my manager (an Oracle-centric guy) that with Universe
11+  (we have 10.2 now) the web services will truly allow us to do input and
output interfacing with other web services.  I need to make sure this is a
correct understanding.

It is clear from the Web Services manual that one can create a web service
(a SOAP service) which will allow outside queries and return data.  I write
to this list to ask those of you who know that it is possible to do the
other way, that from Universe you are able to connect to outside web
services, send queries to them, and get back responses.  Because I don't see
this in the Web manual.   

If the latter is not possible via the Web services capabilities built into
Universe, how are any of you doing it?  Do you need a 3rd-party product?

Here is the data need:  We are to interface our Jail system to another
system via an ESB (electronic services bus) via 'web services', passing XML.


Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County, WA

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[U2] PERL regular expression interpreter in UV Basic?

2014-05-13 Thread Ken Ford
Hello U2 Users.
I have been using a UV Basic function I call REGEXP that takes a text string 
and a PERL formatted regular expression and executes a PERL script and returns 
a matched string if found.  The problem is that it can't handle some of the 
things in strings that are passed to it and PERL bombs.
Because of this, I am in the midst of writing a UV Basic interpreter of PERL 
regular expressions, which is an interesting challenge.  I checked via google 
search for any such UV Basic program already out there, but found none.  So I 
am curious to know if anyone has done this, and if so, would care to share the 
code.
Thanks to anyone who can assist.

Ken Ford.
Firstmac Ltd
Brisbane, Australia.

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Re: [U2] PERL regular expression interpreter in UV Basic?

2014-05-13 Thread George Gallen
Have you considered just trying to do your regexp through AWK or PHP? 

 On May 13, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Ken Ford ken.f...@firstmac.com.au wrote:
 
 Hello U2 Users.
 I have been using a UV Basic function I call REGEXP that takes a text string 
 and a PERL formatted regular expression and executes a PERL script and 
 returns a matched string if found.  The problem is that it can't handle some 
 of the things in strings that are passed to it and PERL bombs.
 Because of this, I am in the midst of writing a UV Basic interpreter of PERL 
 regular expressions, which is an interesting challenge.  I checked via google 
 search for any such UV Basic program already out there, but found none.  So I 
 am curious to know if anyone has done this, and if so, would care to share 
 the code.
 Thanks to anyone who can assist.
 
 Ken Ford.
 Firstmac Ltd
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[U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Wjhonson

Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Adrian Overs
What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to
OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever
END

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On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Wjhonson

The program does not inherently know that it's in a file called BP.
And it does not know it's own (value of) PROG.ID unless it can find it out 
somehow.
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to
OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever
END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Israel, John R.
There are @ commands that can get this stuff.  Or read the cat pointer.

John Israel

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 On May 12, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 The program does not inherently know that it's in a file called BP.
 And it does not know it's own (value of) PROG.ID unless it can find it out 
 somehow.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:33 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself
 
 
 What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
 After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to
 OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN
 READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever
 END
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
 So something like this
 
 GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME
 
 READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 
 
 the program reads itself.
 
 Does anyone have a program like that?
 
 
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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Wjhonson

I understand how one could potentially do it.
I was more interested to see if anyone had already done it.
Cat pointers only work for catalogued entries by the way
 
 
 
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To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


There are @ commands that can get this stuff.  Or read the cat pointer.

John Israel

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 12, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 The program does not inherently know that it's in a file called BP.
 And it does not know it's own (value of) PROG.ID unless it can find it out 
somehow.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:33 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself
 
 
 What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
 After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to
 OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN
 READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever
 END
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
 So something like this
 
 GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME
 
 READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 
 
 the program reads itself.
 
 Does anyone have a program like that?
 
 
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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread David Wasylenko
We always have a variable PGID defined at the top of the program.
This at least HELPS identify the source code.

Most of our programs have the ability to edit the code while you are in the 
program via some common hot-keys
built into our core system. (controlled by security)
There is also a hot-key to view source in a custom program, outside the editor.

We use 'PGID' to identify the name of the current program.

In universe, you may also look at the results of SYSTEM(9001) to get the 
current execution stack.
If your object file is type-19, and long-names are ON - it's easy to parse. 

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 6:48 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


I understand how one could potentially do it.
I was more interested to see if anyone had already done it.
Cat pointers only work for catalogued entries by the way
 
 
 
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From: Israel, John R. johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


There are @ commands that can get this stuff.  Or read the cat pointer.

John Israel

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 12, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 The program does not inherently know that it's in a file called BP.
 And it does not know it's own (value of) PROG.ID unless it can find it 
 out
somehow.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:33 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself
 
 
 What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
 After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO 
 BP.FV THEN READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
 So something like this
 
 GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME
 
 READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 
 
 the program reads itself.
 
 Does anyone have a program like that?
 
 
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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Adrian Overs
You can get the Program name by parsing @SENTANCE
You can then read the Verb from the VOC and act on that or if the item is 
globally catalogued then read the last line from your catdir item 
From unix level use strings $catpath/$item | tail -1 and then process that.
HTH

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 9:33 am, Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to
OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever
END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Bill Haskett
You can also use the program stack (UD - SYSTEM(49), UV - SYSTEM(9001), 
D3 - SYSTEM(33)).  This gives not only the program running but the 
path.  That ought to give needed information to both open the file and 
read the program source code.


HTH,

Bill


- Original Message -
*From:* d...@pickpro.com
*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 5/12/2014 4:55 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Read yourself

We always have a variable PGID defined at the top of the program.
This at least HELPS identify the source code.

Most of our programs have the ability to edit the code while you are in the program via 
some common hot-keys
built into our core system. (controlled by security)
There is also a hot-key to view source in a custom program, outside the editor.

We use 'PGID' to identify the name of the current program.

In universe, you may also look at the results of SYSTEM(9001) to get the 
current execution stack.
If your object file is type-19, and long-names are ON - it's easy to parse.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 6:48 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


I understand how one could potentially do it.
I was more interested to see if anyone had already done it.
Cat pointers only work for catalogued entries by the way
  
  
  
-Original Message-

From: Israel, John R. johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


There are @ commands that can get this stuff.  Or read the cat pointer.

John Israel

Sent from my iPhone


On May 12, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


The program does not inherently know that it's in a file called BP.
And it does not know it's own (value of) PROG.ID unless it can find it
out

somehow.



-Original Message-
From: Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO
BP.FV THEN READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread David Wasylenko
OR you can use SYSTEM(9001) on universe
OR you can use SYSTEM(9001) on universe
   OR you can use SYSTEM(9001) on universe
  OR you can use SYSTEM(9001) on universe
  OR you can use SYSTEM(9001) on universe
Hmmm, thought someone said that already :-)

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:19 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

You can also use the program stack (UD - SYSTEM(49), UV - SYSTEM(9001),
D3 - SYSTEM(33)).  This gives not only the program running but the path.  That 
ought to give needed information to both open the file and read the program 
source code.

HTH,

Bill


- Original Message -
*From:* d...@pickpro.com
*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 5/12/2014 4:55 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Read yourself
 We always have a variable PGID defined at the top of the program.
 This at least HELPS identify the source code.

 Most of our programs have the ability to edit the code while you are in the 
 program via some common hot-keys
 built into our core system. (controlled by security) There is also a 
 hot-key to view source in a custom program, outside the editor.

 We use 'PGID' to identify the name of the current program.

 In universe, you may also look at the results of SYSTEM(9001) to get the 
 current execution stack.
 If your object file is type-19, and long-names are ON - it's easy to parse.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 6:48 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 I understand how one could potentially do it.
 I was more interested to see if anyone had already done it.
 Cat pointers only work for catalogued entries by the way
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Israel, John R. johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:41 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 There are @ commands that can get this stuff.  Or read the cat pointer.

 John Israel

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 12, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


 The program does not inherently know that it's in a file called BP.
 And it does not know it's own (value of) PROG.ID unless it can find 
 it out
 somehow.


 -Original Message-
 From: Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:33 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
 After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO 
 BP.FV THEN READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

 Sent from my iPad

 On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


 Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable 
 ?
 So something like this

 GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

 READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

 the program reads itself.

 Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread David Wasylenko
Wont work --- if you use any external subroutines.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:18 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

You can get the Program name by parsing @SENTANCE You can then read the Verb 
from the VOC and act on that or if the item is globally catalogued then read 
the last line from your catdir item 
From unix level use strings $catpath/$item | tail -1 and then process that.
HTH

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 9:33 am, Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN 
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Adrian Overs
That's true - if the subroutines are catalogued with a noxref clause you're 
screwed. 

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:19 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

Wont work --- if you use any external subroutines.

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:18 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

You can get the Program name by parsing @SENTANCE You can then read the Verb 
from the VOC and act on that or if the item is globally catalogued then read 
the last line from your catdir item 
 From unix level use strings $catpath/$item | tail -1 and then process that.
HTH

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 9:33 am, Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN 
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Wjhonson

system(9001) is doing something odd
One of the chars in the catdir name is an asterisk and the system(9001) returns 
that as %A instead of *
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


You can also use the program stack (UD - SYSTEM(49), UV - SYSTEM(9001), 
D3 - SYSTEM(33)).  This gives not only the program running but the 
path.  That ought to give needed information to both open the file and 
read the program source code.

HTH,

Bill


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*Subject:* Re: [U2] Read yourself
 We always have a variable PGID defined at the top of the program.
 This at least HELPS identify the source code.

 Most of our programs have the ability to edit the code while you are in the 
program via some common hot-keys
 built into our core system. (controlled by security)
 There is also a hot-key to view source in a custom program, outside the 
editor.

 We use 'PGID' to identify the name of the current program.

 In universe, you may also look at the results of SYSTEM(9001) to get the 
current execution stack.
 If your object file is type-19, and long-names are ON - it's easy to parse.

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 I understand how one could potentially do it.
 I was more interested to see if anyone had already done it.
 Cat pointers only work for catalogued entries by the way
   
   
   
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 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:41 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 There are @ commands that can get this stuff.  Or read the cat pointer.

 John Israel

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 On May 12, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


 The program does not inherently know that it's in a file called BP.
 And it does not know it's own (value of) PROG.ID unless it can find it
 out
 somehow.


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 From: Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 4:33 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


 What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
 After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO
 BP.FV THEN READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

 Sent from my iPad

 On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


 Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable 
?
 So something like this

 GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

 READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

 the program reads itself.

 Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread David Wasylenko
IT'S JUST NOT TRUE EVER.  @sentence cannot work.

The stub program that launched an initial program will be in the @sentence...
You could be 3 calls deep into external subroutines - there is nothing in 
@sentence re: the call-stack.
Our shop writes *very* few stub programs - most are subroutines called by other 
subroutines.

Instead:
Add 
PGID=programName
Or even
PGID=filename  ProgramName
To the top of the program - quick and easy.
Use of system routines such as SYSTEM(9001) is usually overkill.

Your program should be aware of it's name - if no other reasons than:
*  display on the screen to help users identify where their problem came from
*  print on reports
*  add to log-file entries
+ and of course, to answer the original question:  how can I read the current 
program source

A well-designed system/program should hard-code as little as possible as well.
What better key to use for a configuration record than the program name itself.


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:39 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

That's true - if the subroutines are catalogued with a noxref clause you're 
screwed. 

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:19 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

Wont work --- if you use any external subroutines.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:18 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

You can get the Program name by parsing @SENTANCE You can then read the Verb 
from the VOC and act on that or if the item is globally catalogued then read 
the last line from your catdir item 
 From unix level use strings $catpath/$item | tail -1 and then process that.
HTH

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 9:33 am, Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN 
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Adrian Overs
I totally agree with and endorse your programming standards David.
However if the program is calling another subroutine it should know the name of 
that subroutine or be able to derive it if it is called with an @.

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:45 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE EVER.  @sentence cannot work.

The stub program that launched an initial program will be in the @sentence...
You could be 3 calls deep into external subroutines - there is nothing in 
@sentence re: the call-stack.
Our shop writes *very* few stub programs - most are subroutines called by other 
subroutines.

Instead:
Add 
   PGID=programName
Or even
   PGID=filename  ProgramName
To the top of the program - quick and easy.
Use of system routines such as SYSTEM(9001) is usually overkill.

Your program should be aware of it's name - if no other reasons than:
*  display on the screen to help users identify where their problem came from
*  print on reports
*  add to log-file entries
+ and of course, to answer the original question:  how can I read the current 
program source

A well-designed system/program should hard-code as little as possible as well.
What better key to use for a configuration record than the program name itself.


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:39 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

That's true - if the subroutines are catalogued with a noxref clause you're 
screwed. 

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:19 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

Wont work --- if you use any external subroutines.

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:18 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

You can get the Program name by parsing @SENTANCE You can then read the Verb 
from the VOC and act on that or if the item is globally catalogued then read 
the last line from your catdir item 
 From unix level use strings $catpath/$item | tail -1 and then process that.
HTH

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 9:33 am, Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN 
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread David Wasylenko
I think the point has been lost.
The person is requesting the name of the CURRENT ROUTINE
If that is A SUBROUTINE - there is no @ that I know of that returns the name of 
the currently executing routine.
The fact the CALLING routine knows the name is #1, is of no value to this 
request and #2, lends nothing to any routine being self-aware.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:58 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

I totally agree with and endorse your programming standards David.
However if the program is calling another subroutine it should know the name of 
that subroutine or be able to derive it if it is called with an @.

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:45 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE EVER.  @sentence cannot work.

The stub program that launched an initial program will be in the @sentence...
You could be 3 calls deep into external subroutines - there is nothing in 
@sentence re: the call-stack.
Our shop writes *very* few stub programs - most are subroutines called by other 
subroutines.

Instead:
Add 
   PGID=programName
Or even
   PGID=filename  ProgramName
To the top of the program - quick and easy.
Use of system routines such as SYSTEM(9001) is usually overkill.

Your program should be aware of it's name - if no other reasons than:
*  display on the screen to help users identify where their problem came from
*  print on reports
*  add to log-file entries
+ and of course, to answer the original question:  how can I read the current 
program source

A well-designed system/program should hard-code as little as possible as well.
What better key to use for a configuration record than the program name itself.


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:39 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

That's true - if the subroutines are catalogued with a noxref clause you're 
screwed. 

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:19 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

Wont work --- if you use any external subroutines.

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:18 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

You can get the Program name by parsing @SENTANCE You can then read the Verb 
from the VOC and act on that or if the item is globally catalogued then read 
the last line from your catdir item 
 From unix level use strings $catpath/$item | tail -1 and then process that.
HTH

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 9:33 am, Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN 
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Wjhonson

I just ran a test where a main program called an external subroutine
In the external subroutine I had it display system(9001)
 
The subroutine name was listed in that display as was the main routine which 
had called it
 
 
 
 
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From: David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


I think the point has been lost.
The person is requesting the name of the CURRENT ROUTINE
If that is A SUBROUTINE - there is no @ that I know of that returns the name of 
the currently executing routine.
The fact the CALLING routine knows the name is #1, is of no value to this 
request and #2, lends nothing to any routine being self-aware.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:58 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

I totally agree with and endorse your programming standards David.
However if the program is calling another subroutine it should know the name of 
that subroutine or be able to derive it if it is called with an @.

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:45 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE EVER.  @sentence cannot work.

The stub program that launched an initial program will be in the @sentence...
You could be 3 calls deep into external subroutines - there is nothing in 
@sentence re: the call-stack.
Our shop writes *very* few stub programs - most are subroutines called by other 
subroutines.

Instead:
Add 
   PGID=programName
Or even
   PGID=filename  ProgramName
To the top of the program - quick and easy.
Use of system routines such as SYSTEM(9001) is usually overkill.

Your program should be aware of it's name - if no other reasons than:
*  display on the screen to help users identify where their problem came from
*  print on reports
*  add to log-file entries
+ and of course, to answer the original question:  how can I read the current 
program source

A well-designed system/program should hard-code as little as possible as well.
What better key to use for a configuration record than the program name itself.


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:39 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

That's true - if the subroutines are catalogued with a noxref clause you're 
screwed. 

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:19 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

Wont work --- if you use any external subroutines.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:18 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

You can get the Program name by parsing @SENTANCE You can then read the Verb 
from the VOC and act on that or if the item is globally catalogued then read 
the 
last line from your catdir item 
 From unix level use strings $catpath/$item | tail -1 and then process that.
HTH

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 9:33 am, Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN 
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Bernard Lubin
You will need to do a system(9001) to get the program stack
This will tell you the subroutine that is being called.

To get the library, first check the VOC for the external subroutine.  If there 
is no VOC pointer for that item, check the VOC pointer for the calling program.

As far as I remember, when calling a subroutine, UniVerse first checks the VOC 
for the program name to determine the program library where the program 
resides..  If the VOC entry is not present, it uses the library of the calling 
program.  I do not know how far back the stack it will go.. (Hopefully all the 
way to the first program)

Hope that helps.

Rgds


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I just ran a test where a main program called an external subroutine In the 
external subroutine I had it display system(9001)

The subroutine name was listed in that display as was the main routine which 
had called it




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Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself


I think the point has been lost.
The person is requesting the name of the CURRENT ROUTINE
If that is A SUBROUTINE - there is no @ that I know of that returns the name of 
the currently executing routine.
The fact the CALLING routine knows the name is #1, is of no value to this 
request and #2, lends nothing to any routine being self-aware.

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On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

I totally agree with and endorse your programming standards David.
However if the program is calling another subroutine it should know the name of 
that subroutine or be able to derive it if it is called with an @.

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:45 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE EVER.  @sentence cannot work.

The stub program that launched an initial program will be in the @sentence...
You could be 3 calls deep into external subroutines - there is nothing in 
@sentence re: the call-stack.
Our shop writes *very* few stub programs - most are subroutines called by other 
subroutines.

Instead:
Add
   PGID=programName
Or even
   PGID=filename  ProgramName
To the top of the program - quick and easy.
Use of system routines such as SYSTEM(9001) is usually overkill.

Your program should be aware of it's name - if no other reasons than:
*  display on the screen to help users identify where their problem came from
*  print on reports
*  add to log-file entries
+ and of course, to answer the original question:  how can I read the
+ current
program source

A well-designed system/program should hard-code as little as possible as well.
What better key to use for a configuration record than the program name itself.


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On Behalf Of Adrian Overs
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

That's true - if the subroutines are catalogued with a noxref clause you're 
screwed.

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 10:19 am, David Wasylenko d...@pickpro.com wrote:

Wont work --- if you use any external subroutines.

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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Read yourself

You can get the Program name by parsing @SENTANCE You can then read the Verb 
from the VOC and act on that or if the item is globally catalogued then read 
the last line from your catdir item
 From unix level use strings $catpath/$item | tail -1 and then process that.
HTH

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On 13 May 2014, at 9:33 am, Adrian Overs ove...@citysoft.com.au wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN 
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 

Re: [U2] Read yourself

2014-05-12 Thread Robert
I saw on one PICK system, a precompiler language. It was the same as 
PICK/BASIC, but had a preprocessor to it.


So, for example to get the user number on a Universe system you would 
use USER.NO=@USER.NO


On a PICK system, it would be USER.NO=OCONV(0,'U50BB')

Rather than write it into the program to check what system it is on 
(since sometimes it could be different functions or statements used that 
never even compile), then would do something like:


USER.NO=%GET USERNO%

The precompiler would look at the control table and translate the '%GET 
USERNO%' to the appropriate statement, then compile.


I've seen software that was so generic it would run on any version of 
Multivalue system and sometimes even non-Multivalue systems.


Robert Norman

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On 5/12/2014 4:33 PM, Adrian Overs wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve by doing so?
After all it's not rocket science (pardon the pun) to
OPEN BP TO BP.FV THEN
READ R.PROG FROM BP.FV, PROG.ID ELSE ... Whatever
END

Sent from my iPad

On 13 May 2014, at 6:54 am, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:


Does anyone have a BASIC program, that will open it's own code in a variable ?
So something like this

GOSUB RETURN.A.LOCAL.FILE.AND.KEY.FOR.ME

READ THIS.PROGRAM FROM F.LOCALFILENAME, K.PROGRAMKEY 

the program reads itself.

Does anyone have a program like that?


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[U2] [OT] My XML is Chinese!?!

2014-05-09 Thread George Gallen
OKI've got a strange thing happening on my Win 7 IE 11

If I use IE 11 to open an XML file - it renders fine - no problems.
BUT...if I right click and choose View Source - all I see are Chinese 
characters?

I know the XML is plain text and no extended codes

And it only happens on my machine, if I use another PC same setup (except IE 9)
   It shows English when you view Source

HTML renders fine, and View Source for HTML displays English.

My XML declaration line looks like:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ?

Firefox view source displays English,  as does Chrome and Safari - It's just 
IE11 doing it.

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Re: [U2] [OT] My XML is Chinese!?!

2014-05-09 Thread Aaron Titus
I suspect I know what is happening, though I can't tell you WHY.

The view source function is using an encoding that doesn't match your
actual file. For example the view source may think its using UTF-16 for
some reason, but since its really using UTF-8 the characters are all
mangled.  Its just a guess.  I would recommend saving the file to disk and
the  use another editor like notepad++ which can tell you what the file
encoding is.  This is likely just a bug in IE 11.

There are so many better editors out there for xml data, I would just use
one of those instead.





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 OKI've got a strange thing happening on my Win 7 IE 11

 If I use IE 11 to open an XML file - it renders fine - no problems.
 BUT...if I right click and choose View Source - all I see are Chinese
 characters?

 I know the XML is plain text and no extended codes

 And it only happens on my machine, if I use another PC same setup (except
 IE 9)
It shows English when you view Source

 HTML renders fine, and View Source for HTML displays English.

 My XML declaration line looks like:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ?

 Firefox view source displays English,  as does Chrome and Safari - It's
 just IE11 doing it.

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Re: [U2] [OT] My XML is Chinese!?!

2014-05-09 Thread Israel, John R.
Another point to make about IE.  It renders the XML in a nice and  clean format 
but it is NOT exactly what is in the XML file.

I often use IE to look at XMLs quickly but to see what is REALLY in the file, I 
also use NotePad++.

In fact, I am doing this stuff right now for issues in Panama.

JRI

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Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] My XML is Chinese!?!

I suspect I know what is happening, though I can't tell you WHY.

The view source function is using an encoding that doesn't match your actual 
file. For example the view source may think its using UTF-16 for some reason, 
but since its really using UTF-8 the characters are all mangled.  Its just a 
guess.  I would recommend saving the file to disk and the  use another editor 
like notepad++ which can tell you what the file encoding is.  This is likely 
just a bug in IE 11.

There are so many better editors out there for xml data, I would just use one 
of those instead.





On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote:

 OKI've got a strange thing happening on my Win 7 IE 11

 If I use IE 11 to open an XML file - it renders fine - no problems.
 BUT...if I right click and choose View Source - all I see are Chinese 
 characters?

 I know the XML is plain text and no extended codes

 And it only happens on my machine, if I use another PC same setup 
 (except IE 9)
It shows English when you view Source

 HTML renders fine, and View Source for HTML displays English.

 My XML declaration line looks like:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ?

 Firefox view source displays English,  as does Chrome and Safari - 
 It's just IE11 doing it.

 Any Ideas?
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Re: [U2] [OT] My XML is Chinese!?!

2014-05-09 Thread George Gallen
Ok partially solved this.

I changed the program that IE11 uses to edit html from default to notepad
And now it works - displays in English

However, when I went back to change back to default - default wasn't an option

Wonder if this was something from when I last upgraded (if you can call it 
that) from IE10 to EI11

Oh well...

-Original Message-
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:05 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] [OT] My XML is Chinese!?!

OKI've got a strange thing happening on my Win 7 IE 11

If I use IE 11 to open an XML file - it renders fine - no problems.
BUT...if I right click and choose View Source - all I see are Chinese 
characters?

I know the XML is plain text and no extended codes

And it only happens on my machine, if I use another PC same setup (except IE 9)
   It shows English when you view Source

HTML renders fine, and View Source for HTML displays English.

My XML declaration line looks like:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ?

Firefox view source displays English,  as does Chrome and Safari - It's just 
IE11 doing it.

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Re: [U2] [OT] My XML is Chinese!?!

2014-05-09 Thread George Gallen
It's not as much for editing XML, which I use a different editor for.

But more to verify what is being displayed in IE is what was sent, since IE 
tweeks and consolidates XML
   Before it displays it during it's validation.   (ie.   it will change 
test/test to test /

I use IE for because it's quicker to test xml files that are not local to the 
computer and are online.

George

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Titus
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:15 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] My XML is Chinese!?!

I suspect I know what is happening, though I can't tell you WHY.

The view source function is using an encoding that doesn't match your
actual file. For example the view source may think its using UTF-16 for
some reason, but since its really using UTF-8 the characters are all
mangled.  Its just a guess.  I would recommend saving the file to disk and
the  use another editor like notepad++ which can tell you what the file
encoding is.  This is likely just a bug in IE 11.

There are so many better editors out there for xml data, I would just use
one of those instead.





On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote:

 OKI've got a strange thing happening on my Win 7 IE 11

 If I use IE 11 to open an XML file - it renders fine - no problems.
 BUT...if I right click and choose View Source - all I see are Chinese
 characters?

 I know the XML is plain text and no extended codes

 And it only happens on my machine, if I use another PC same setup (except
 IE 9)
It shows English when you view Source

 HTML renders fine, and View Source for HTML displays English.

 My XML declaration line looks like:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ?

 Firefox view source displays English,  as does Chrome and Safari - It's
 just IE11 doing it.

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[U2] stop

2014-05-09 Thread Jerry Neff
stop

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Re: [U2] stop

2014-05-09 Thread Allen Egerton
Slight
Tap
On
Pedal


Je ne comprends pas. 

(Allen - Sent from my paperweight)

 On May 9, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Jerry Neff jerry.n...@scccd.edu wrote:
 
 stop
 
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Re: [U2] stop

2014-05-09 Thread Charlie Noah

State
Trooper
Out
P1$$ing


On 05-09-2014 10:56 AM, Allen Egerton wrote:

Slight
Tap
On
Pedal


Je ne comprends pas.

(Allen - Sent from my paperweight)


On May 9, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Jerry Neff jerry.n...@scccd.edu wrote:

stop

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Programmer/Analyst - IS
State Center Community College District
Phone (559) 244-5952
Fax (559) 222-9954
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Re: [U2] stop

2014-05-09 Thread George Gallen
Drop and Roll?

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Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 11:52 AM
To: 'U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] stop

stop

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Re: [U2] stop

2014-05-09 Thread Bruce Decker

Children:
What's that sound, everybody look what's goin down.



On 5/9/2014 10:03 AM, George Gallen wrote:

Drop and Roll?

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To: 'U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] stop

stop

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Re: [U2] stop

2014-05-09 Thread George Gallen
Silence
The
Outputing
Program


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Noah
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 12:01 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] stop

State
Trooper
Out
P1$$ing


On 05-09-2014 10:56 AM, Allen Egerton wrote:
 Slight
 Tap
 On
 Pedal
 

 Je ne comprends pas.

 (Allen - Sent from my paperweight)

 On May 9, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Jerry Neff jerry.n...@scccd.edu wrote:

 stop

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Re: [U2] stop

2014-05-09 Thread Chris Austin
+--+
|  
| STOP statement   
|  
| _   
|  
|  
| SYNTAX  
|  
|   STOP [expression]  
|   STOPE [expression]
|   STOPM [expression]
|  
| DESCRIPTION  
|  
|Use the STOP statement  to  terminate  program  execution  and
|return system control to the calling environment, which can be
|a menu, a paragraph, another BASIC program,  or  the  UniVerse
|command processor.
|  
|  
|   More   End Help  List Commands 
+---+ Page Down +--+

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 Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 15:52:02 +
 Subject: [U2] stop
 
 stop
 
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[U2] Exiting, it's been fun

2014-05-09 Thread Jerry Neff
After an absolutely wonderful 32 years working primarily in the Pick e.g. 
unidata/universe world I am retiring.  My wife and I are picking up stakes, 
Fresno, CA, moving to South Lake Tahoe, NV to enjoy the cooler climate and 
beautiful terrain.

I can't imagine Dick Pick would have even thought his db would span the 
timeframe it has and it's still going...
During my career I survived three db conversions only to move on to yet 
another pick environment/shop.
I've programmed, administered, managed, consulted and returned to programming 
to end my career...
I can honestly say the Pick world has been very good to me...
Even though I did not post frequently I read 99% of what was happening and 
enjoyed every minute while working feverishly away at my current job.
There are still several Pick icons, very knowledgeable and seasoned people, on 
the post so everyone with questions are in good hands.
Thank you for all your posts and best of luck to you all.

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Re: [U2] Exiting, it's been fun

2014-05-09 Thread Charlie Noah

I wish you the very best in your retirement!
Charlie Noah

On 05-09-2014 11:11 AM, Jerry Neff wrote:

After an absolutely wonderful 32 years working primarily in the Pick e.g. 
unidata/universe world I am retiring.  My wife and I are picking up stakes, 
Fresno, CA, moving to South Lake Tahoe, NV to enjoy the cooler climate and 
beautiful terrain.

I can't imagine Dick Pick would have even thought his db would span the 
timeframe it has and it's still going...
During my career I survived three db conversions only to move on to yet another 
pick environment/shop.
I've programmed, administered, managed, consulted and returned to programming 
to end my career...
I can honestly say the Pick world has been very good to me...
Even though I did not post frequently I read 99% of what was happening and 
enjoyed every minute while working feverishly away at my current job.
There are still several Pick icons, very knowledgeable and seasoned people, on 
the post so everyone with questions are in good hands.
Thank you for all your posts and best of luck to you all.

Jerry L Neff,
jnef...@excite.commailto:jerry.n...@scccd.edu


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Re: [U2] Exiting, it's been fun

2014-05-09 Thread Allen Elwood RR


bon voyage jerry

even though i'm retired/disabled I like to occasionally read the posts

have fun at the lake


On 5/9/2014 9:11 AM, Jerry Neff wrote:

After an absolutely wonderful 32 years working primarily in the Pick e.g. 
unidata/universe world I am retiring.  My wife and I are picking up stakes, 
Fresno, CA, moving to South Lake Tahoe, NV to enjoy the cooler climate and 
beautiful terrain.

I can't imagine Dick Pick would have even thought his db would span the 
timeframe it has and it's still going...
During my career I survived three db conversions only to move on to yet another 
pick environment/shop.
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[U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Wjhonson

Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Dave Davis
How big is the record (file actually) it's trying to read?

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Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I can 
SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each element (perfect 
so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Israel, John R.
If the program has not changed, then the data has.  Can you do an OSREAD?  
Anything odd about the data or key it is reading?

John Israel

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 Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows
 
 A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has 
 a Fatal Error !
 
 When I debug it further, I get this symptom.
 
 In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
 I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
 I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)
 
 When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
 clause the error set to 40070
 
 What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Wjhonson

Each record is only maybe 200 bytes or that sort.
The entire directory has about 200 of these records in it
 
 
 
 
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How big is the record (file actually) it's trying to read?

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Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I can 
SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each element (perfect 
so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Dave Davis
File permissions?

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Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I can 
SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each element (perfect 
so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Eastwood
Maybe one of these files is actually a sub-folder in this directory?




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Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I can
SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each element (perfect
so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Wjhonson

OSREAD isn't a command in Universe BASIC
 




 
 
 
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To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 10:09 am
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


If the program has not changed, then the data has.  Can you do an OSREAD?  
Anything odd about the data or key it is reading?

John Israel

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 On May 6, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows
 
 A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has 
a Fatal Error !
 
 When I debug it further, I get this symptom.
 
 In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
 I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
 I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)
 
 When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070
 
 What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [U2] How to create ASP.NET Web API (Http service/RESTFul) using multi-value .NET Provider and multi-value Visual Studio Add-ins? Consume using HTML5/JavaScript/MVVM/Knockout.js/Json

2014-05-06 Thread Symeon Breen
Removed

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Subject: [U2] How to create ASP.NET Web API (Http service/RESTFul) using
multi-value .NET Provider and multi-value Visual Studio Add-ins? Consume
using HTML5/JavaScript/MVVM/Knockout.js/Json

Please read:


http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23434946/how-to-create-asp-net-web-api-ht
tp-service-restful-using-multi-value-net-prov
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23434946/how-to-create-asp-net-web-api-h
ttp-service-restful-using-multi-value-net-prov  


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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Woodward, Bob
Check your directories, specifically any TMP/TEMP directories, for a
maximum number of entries.  HD Root directories, savedlists, ph,
anything that would have temporary files created in them.  This caught
me once before and it took forever to stumble on the idea that windows
does seem to have a maximum number of files condition.  If you can
delete a handful of temp files in a directory and the read starts to
work, that's the one you need to be looking at.

BobW

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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that
it has a Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I
can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each
element (perfect so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON
ERROR clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread dale kelley

Is it a particular record that errors out or can you not read any of them?

On 05/06/2014 12:04 PM, Wjhonson wrote:

Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Bill Haskett
Can you open the .csv file (the Windows File item within the Windows 
Directory) with a text editor?  Does it look like text?  Is there a 
sub-directory within this directory? Are the permissions of this .csv 
file the same as the rest of the items within the directory?  You're not 
getting that stupid desktop.ini item within the directory, are you?


Just a few thoughts.

Bill


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*To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 5/6/2014 10:04 AM
*Subject:* [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Wjhonson

Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No :)
 
Here's an update.
IF I open one of these in notepad, and just add an extra char to the end and 
then file it, the last modified date now appears for that file, but none of 
the other ones of course.
 
And doing that, makes it so, in TCL, I can now EDit that particular record, but 
none of the other records, which still cause the fatal abort.
 
So that's odd.  But at least, I can go through and edit every single bleeping 
entry in the directory, file it, and make it editable again in Universe.  WHY 
this has occurred, and WHETHER it's going to continue with new entries, is 
still an open question


 
 
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From: Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 11:30 am
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Can you open the .csv file (the Windows File item within the Windows 
Directory) with a text editor?  Does it look like text?  Is there a 
sub-directory within this directory? Are the permissions of this .csv 
file the same as the rest of the items within the directory?  You're not 
getting that stupid desktop.ini item within the directory, are you?

Just a few thoughts.

Bill


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*Date:* 5/6/2014 10:04 AM
*Subject:* [U2] [Universe] [Windows]
 Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

 A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has 
a Fatal Error !

 When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

 In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
 I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
 I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)

 When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

 What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Holt, Jake
Are you using open or openseq for the xls files?

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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that
it has a Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I
can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each
element (perfect so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON
ERROR clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Wjhonson

Can't read any of them.  But see my latest update message just now sent.
 
 
 
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From: dale kelley dalekel...@dalewkelleyinc.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Is it a particular record that errors out or can you not read any of them?

On 05/06/2014 12:04 PM, Wjhonson wrote:
 Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

 A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has 
a Fatal Error !

 When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

 In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
 I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
 I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)

 When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

 What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Wjhonson

csv files, not xls
 
The OPEN works, the READNEXT works, the READ is where it fails
A SELECT by the way, returns the correct number of entries, it just won't EDIT 
any of them.
 
 
 
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Are you using open or openseq for the xls files?

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Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 12:05 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that
it has a Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I
can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each
element (perfect so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON
ERROR clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Israel, John R.
Maybe already asked, but can you pull in up in the AE editor?  If so, go to 
up-arrow mode and see if there are any funky characters.

JRI

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csv files, not xls
 
The OPEN works, the READNEXT works, the READ is where it fails A SELECT by the 
way, returns the correct number of entries, it just won't EDIT any of them.
 
 
 
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Are you using open or openseq for the xls files?

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Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I can 
SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each element (perfect 
so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Wjhonson

Cannot edit it in AE either
 
 
 
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Maybe already asked, but can you pull in up in the AE editor?  If so, go to 
up-arrow mode and see if there are any funky characters.

JRI

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csv files, not xls
 
The OPEN works, the READNEXT works, the READ is where it fails A SELECT by the 
way, returns the correct number of entries, it just won't EDIT any of them.
 
 
 
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Are you using open or openseq for the xls files?

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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I can 
SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each element (perfect 
so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Israel, John R.
If it's not confidential, send it to me as an attachment:
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com

JRI

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Cannot edit it in AE either
 
 
 
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Maybe already asked, but can you pull in up in the AE editor?  If so, go to 
up-arrow mode and see if there are any funky characters.

JRI

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csv files, not xls
 
The OPEN works, the READNEXT works, the READ is where it fails A SELECT by the 
way, returns the correct number of entries, it just won't EDIT any of them.
 
 
 
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To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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Are you using open or openseq for the xls files?

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Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I can 
SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each element (perfect 
so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Bruce Decker

Can you:

SELECT filename WITH @ID = offending_key

If not, then it might be control chars or corruption in the key.
I've seen it before where the READNEXT can grab what it 'thinks' is the 
key but if it contains some funky char, when you try to READ using that 
key, the READ fails.


Another test:

SELECT filename
ED filename

If you can ED or AE all of them when stacked but can't when you specify 
the key, it might be garbage in the key that's difficult to see.


You can sometimes READNEXT id then CRT OCONV( id, \MXOC\) to see the key 
in hex and that might lead you to the issue.


Also if keys are written containing @AM, it will create multiple entries 
in the select stack where each part of the key becomes it's own element 
in the select stack.  When you look at the list, it seems right but when 
processing in basic, it's not quite right.


-BD


On 5/6/2014 2:16 PM, Wjhonson wrote:

Cannot edit it in AE either
  
  
  
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To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Maybe already asked, but can you pull in up in the AE editor?  If so, go to
up-arrow mode and see if there are any funky characters.

JRI

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csv files, not xls
  
The OPEN works, the READNEXT works, the READ is where it fails A SELECT by the

way, returns the correct number of entries, it just won't EDIT any of them.
  
  
  
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Are you using open or openseq for the xls files?

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Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I can
SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each element (perfect
so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Wjhonson

Bruce you cannot ED any of it when stacked.
 
So the SELECT finds all 115 records.  Great.
Then when you try to ED off that select, it immediately bombs with a fatal 
error.
Even if I delete the first key in the select or the first twelve keys, it 
doesn't help.  Each record fails.
 
In fact, the error first occurred when a user was trying to read a record deep 
down the list.
I just didn't realize right away, that every record has the same symptom
 
To me it seems to be something wrong in the Windows setup of the entries, not 
in Universe.
Something in Windows has screwed up the header data of the file perhaps which 
would explain why the Last Modified Date column is completely blank.
 
 
 
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Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Can you:

SELECT filename WITH @ID = offending_key

If not, then it might be control chars or corruption in the key.
I've seen it before where the READNEXT can grab what it 'thinks' is the 
key but if it contains some funky char, when you try to READ using that 
key, the READ fails.

Another test:

SELECT filename
ED filename

If you can ED or AE all of them when stacked but can't when you specify 
the key, it might be garbage in the key that's difficult to see.

You can sometimes READNEXT id then CRT OCONV( id, \MXOC\) to see the key 
in hex and that might lead you to the issue.

Also if keys are written containing @AM, it will create multiple entries 
in the select stack where each part of the key becomes it's own element 
in the select stack.  When you look at the list, it seems right but when 
processing in basic, it's not quite right.

-BD


On 5/6/2014 2:16 PM, Wjhonson wrote:
 Cannot edit it in AE either
   
   
   
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 Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 1:13 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


 Maybe already asked, but can you pull in up in the AE editor?  If so, go to
 up-arrow mode and see if there are any funky characters.

 JRI

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 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
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 Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 4:10 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


 csv files, not xls
   
 The OPEN works, the READNEXT works, the READ is where it fails A SELECT by the
 way, returns the correct number of entries, it just won't EDIT any of them.
   
   
   
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 Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 1:09 pm
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 Are you using open or openseq for the xls files?

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 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


 Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

 A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has 
a
 Fatal Error !

 When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

 In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) I can
 SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each element (perfect
 so far)

 When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR
 clause the error set to 40070

 What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Woodward, Bob
This sounds like it's back to permissions.  If it was UNIX, then I'd say
the owner/user for the records(files) was deleted from the system and
then editing them assigns a new, valid, owner.  You said you're on
windows, though. 

BobW

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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 1:09 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No :)
 
Here's an update.
IF I open one of these in notepad, and just add an extra char to the end
and then file it, the last modified date now appears for that file,
but none of the other ones of course.
 
And doing that, makes it so, in TCL, I can now EDit that particular
record, but none of the other records, which still cause the fatal
abort.
 
So that's odd.  But at least, I can go through and edit every single
bleeping entry in the directory, file it, and make it editable again in
Universe.  WHY this has occurred, and WHETHER it's going to continue
with new entries, is still an open question


 
 
-Original Message-
From: Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 11:30 am
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Can you open the .csv file (the Windows File item within the Windows
Directory) with a text editor?  Does it look like text?  Is there a
sub-directory within this directory? Are the permissions of this .csv 
file the same as the rest of the items within the directory?  You're not
getting that stupid desktop.ini item within the directory, are you?

Just a few thoughts.

Bill


- Original Message -
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*To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 5/6/2014 10:04 AM
*Subject:* [U2] [Universe] [Windows]
 Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

 A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that

 it has
a Fatal Error !

 When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

 In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory) 
 I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each 
 element (perfect so far)

 When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON 
 ERROR
clause the error set to 40070

 What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread dale kelley
I goog'd 40070 and references I found said its a windows registry 
error.  That kind of baffles me,... unless the NSA is administering 
windows registry now.


On 05/06/2014 12:04 PM, Wjhonson wrote:

Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
Fatal Error !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Peter Cheney
I'd have to agree that it is likely going to be permissions.
While I do not have UV on Windows on AIX if I create a record in a type 1 file 
and then change the ownership to something that I cannot read I get the 
following:
ED PCTMP EDTEST
Program ED: pc = 6952, Fatal error has occured.
[~] $

CT PCTMP EDTEST
Program COPYP: pc = 1A46, Fatal error has occured.
[~] $

Perhaps the error you're getting is a windows equivalent of the above or 
something?

The permissions on my file during this test were:
[PCTMP] $ ls -l EDTEST
-rw---1 root other  56 May 07 08:03 EDTEST
[PCTMP] $

So I'd be looking at the permissions of the parent folder as well as its 
contents.

HTH
Peter



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e peter.che...@firstmac.com.au
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org on behalf of Woodward, Bob 
bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
Sent: Wednesday, 7 May 2014 6:53
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

This sounds like it's back to permissions.  If it was UNIX, then I'd say
the owner/user for the records(files) was deleted from the system and
then editing them assigns a new, valid, owner.  You said you're on
windows, though.

BobW

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 1:09 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No :)

Here's an update.
IF I open one of these in notepad, and just add an extra char to the end
and then file it, the last modified date now appears for that file,
but none of the other ones of course.

And doing that, makes it so, in TCL, I can now EDit that particular
record, but none of the other records, which still cause the fatal
abort.

So that's odd.  But at least, I can go through and edit every single
bleeping entry in the directory, file it, and make it editable again in
Universe.  WHY this has occurred, and WHETHER it's going to continue
with new entries, is still an open question




-Original Message-
From: Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 11:30 am
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Can you open the .csv file (the Windows File item within the Windows
Directory) with a text editor?  Does it look like text?  Is there a
sub-directory within this directory? Are the permissions of this .csv
file the same as the rest of the items within the directory?  You're not
getting that stupid desktop.ini item within the directory, are you?

Just a few thoughts.

Bill


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*To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 5/6/2014 10:04 AM
*Subject:* [U2] [Universe] [Windows]
 Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

 A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that

 it has
a Fatal Error !

 When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

 In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
 I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each
 element (perfect so far)

 When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON
 ERROR
clause the error set to 40070

 What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

2014-05-06 Thread Wjhonson

Thanks excellent.  I think you might be correct here.
 
 
 
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From: Peter Cheney peter.che...@firstmac.com.au
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


I'd have to agree that it is likely going to be permissions.
While I do not have UV on Windows on AIX if I create a record in a type 1 file 
and then change the ownership to something that I cannot read I get the 
following:
ED PCTMP EDTEST
Program ED: pc = 6952, Fatal error has occured.
[~] $

CT PCTMP EDTEST
Program COPYP: pc = 1A46, Fatal error has occured.
[~] $

Perhaps the error you're getting is a windows equivalent of the above or 
something?

The permissions on my file during this test were:
[PCTMP] $ ls -l EDTEST
-rw---1 root other  56 May 07 08:03 EDTEST
[PCTMP] $

So I'd be looking at the permissions of the parent folder as well as its 
contents.

HTH
Peter



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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
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on behalf of Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.com
Sent: Wednesday, 7 May 2014 6:53
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

This sounds like it's back to permissions.  If it was UNIX, then I'd say
the owner/user for the records(files) was deleted from the system and
then editing them assigns a new, valid, owner.  You said you're on
windows, though.

BobW

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 1:09 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No :)

Here's an update.
IF I open one of these in notepad, and just add an extra char to the end
and then file it, the last modified date now appears for that file,
but none of the other ones of course.

And doing that, makes it so, in TCL, I can now EDit that particular
record, but none of the other records, which still cause the fatal
abort.

So that's odd.  But at least, I can go through and edit every single
bleeping entry in the directory, file it, and make it editable again in
Universe.  WHY this has occurred, and WHETHER it's going to continue
with new entries, is still an open question




-Original Message-
From: Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 11:30 am
Subject: Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]


Can you open the .csv file (the Windows File item within the Windows
Directory) with a text editor?  Does it look like text?  Is there a
sub-directory within this directory? Are the permissions of this .csv
file the same as the rest of the items within the directory?  You're not
getting that stupid desktop.ini item within the directory, are you?

Just a few thoughts.

Bill


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*To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 5/6/2014 10:04 AM
*Subject:* [U2] [Universe] [Windows]
 Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

 A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that

 it has
a Fatal Error !

 When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

 In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
 I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect) I can READNEXT each
 element (perfect so far)

 When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON
 ERROR
clause the error set to 40070

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[U2] So, what product is Dan McGrath managing @ Google?

2014-05-04 Thread Ross Ferris
LinkedIn tells me Dan has moved on  unless Google are making an MV play 
(think LaughIn   Very Interesting! -- I'll forgo the but stupid, 
'cause I'm sure it is not!)

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Re: [U2] So, what product is Dan McGrath managing @ Google?

2014-05-04 Thread Kevin King
I saw that too. I wish him the best.  Big loss for Rocket.


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[U2] How to create ASP.NET Web API (Http service/RESTFul) using multi-value .NET Provider and multi-value Visual Studio Add-ins? Consume using HTML5/JavaScript/MVVM/Knockout.js/Json

2014-05-03 Thread rajank
Please read:


http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23434946/how-to-create-asp-net-web-api-http-service-restful-using-multi-value-net-prov
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23434946/how-to-create-asp-net-web-api-http-service-restful-using-multi-value-net-prov
  


http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23434946/how-to-create-asp-net-web-api-http-service-restful-using-multi-value-net-prov



Regards,

Rajan Kumar




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Re: [U2] Dynamic Concepts Unibasic ... Is this Pick ?

2014-04-26 Thread Kevin King
As I recall the 'other Unidata' is at the NIST, so being The Government, is
effectively legally untouchable.


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Charles Stevenson stevenson.c...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  there's another outfit called Unidata in Colorado, too.
 It's part of a university or an NGO thing, maybe unifying data across
 several NGOs.
 Maybe an arm of the Amalgamated Organization of Federated Associations.
  (hat tip to Garrison Keillor.)


 On 4/24/2014 9:41 PM, Tom Whitmore wrote:

 This appears to be unrelated to Rocket's UniBASIC.   In fact, it appears
 to run at the OS level.

 It is odd that their documentation states  UniBasic is a trademark of
 Dynamic Concepts Inc.  Does Rocket have an infringement issue?

 Tom Whitmore
 RATEX Business Solutions

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 listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
 Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:33 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Dynamic Concepts Unibasic ... Is this Pick ?


 http://www.dynamic.com/software/unibasic/

 This company confuses me.  Is this the same UniBASIC ?
 They are based in Irvine but their website makes it seem like this
 UniBasic is theirs.
 No mention of Rocket.

 Or are their actually two completely unrelated companies, hawking
 products both called Uni Basic ?


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Re: [U2] Job opening in Plymouth Meeting PA

2014-04-26 Thread Tom Whitmore
Hi,
We had a problem with the email address I provided below.  This problem is 
resolved.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
Tom 

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To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] Job opening in Plymouth Meeting PA

Hi,
RATEX Business Solutions, the premier provider of software solutions to the 
independent college bookstore community, has several openings for programmers 
with Pick BASIC experience.  

These individuals will help support our GUI products, our POS product and 
participate in our expansion of technology solutions we are offering to our 
customers.

These positions are full time or contract to hire positions.

Our office is located in Plymouth Meeting PA, just outside of Philadelphia.  
Looking at a map, we are at the intersection of I-276 (PA Turnpike) and I-476.

The senior programmer must have a minimum of 10 years of Pick BASIC experience, 
preferably with UniVerse.

The junior programmer must have a minimum of 3 to 5 years of Pick BASIC 
experience, preferably with UniVerse.

Additional requirements:
1) Strong problem solving skills
2) Able to work in a team or independently
3) Strong communication skills
4) Strong people skills

Pluses:
1) Have 4-GL experience (SB+, BlackSmith, DesignBais, etc.)
2) Experience with POS
3) Experience with PCI PA-DSS
4) Familiar with Unix environment
5) .NET, Java, Delphi or other languages

No recruiters please.

Please send resumes to res...@ratex.com

Thanks,
Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions
WWW.RATEX.COM
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[U2] Job opening in Plymouth Meeting PA

2014-04-25 Thread Tom Whitmore
Hi,
RATEX Business Solutions, the premier provider of software solutions to the 
independent college bookstore community, has several openings for programmers 
with Pick BASIC experience.  

These individuals will help support our GUI products, our POS product and 
participate in our expansion of technology solutions we are offering to our 
customers.

These positions are full time or contract to hire positions.

Our office is located in Plymouth Meeting PA, just outside of Philadelphia.  
Looking at a map, we are at the intersection of I-276 (PA Turnpike) and I-476.

The senior programmer must have a minimum of 10 years of Pick BASIC experience, 
preferably with UniVerse.

The junior programmer must have a minimum of 3 to 5 years of Pick BASIC 
experience, preferably with UniVerse.

Additional requirements:
1) Strong problem solving skills
2) Able to work in a team or independently
3) Strong communication skills
4) Strong people skills

Pluses:
1) Have 4-GL experience (SB+, BlackSmith, DesignBais, etc.)
2) Experience with POS
3) Experience with PCI PA-DSS
4) Familiar with Unix environment
5) .NET, Java, Delphi or other languages

No recruiters please.

Please send resumes to res...@ratex.com

Thanks,
Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions
WWW.RATEX.COM
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Re: [U2] Dynamic Concepts Unibasic ... Is this Pick ?

2014-04-24 Thread Tom Whitmore
This appears to be unrelated to Rocket's UniBASIC.   In fact, it appears to run 
at the OS level.

It is odd that their documentation states  UniBasic is a trademark of Dynamic 
Concepts Inc.  Does Rocket have an infringement issue?

Tom Whitmore
RATEX Business Solutions 

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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:33 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Dynamic Concepts Unibasic ... Is this Pick ?


http://www.dynamic.com/software/unibasic/

This company confuses me.  Is this the same UniBASIC ?
They are based in Irvine but their website makes it seem like this UniBasic 
is theirs.
No mention of Rocket.

Or are their actually two completely unrelated companies, hawking products both 
called Uni Basic ?


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Re: [U2] Dynamic Concepts Unibasic ... Is this Pick ?

2014-04-24 Thread Bob Markowitz Bluefinity
Dynamic Concepts is a company that has been around for a very long time.  The 
founder of the company even met Dick Pick.  They have their own database, dL4.  
It is almost Pick like.

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Subject: [U2] Dynamic Concepts Unibasic ... Is this Pick ?


http://www.dynamic.com/software/unibasic/

This company confuses me.  Is this the same UniBASIC ?
They are based in Irvine but their website makes it seem like this UniBasic 
is theirs.
No mention of Rocket.

Or are their actually two completely unrelated companies, hawking products both 
called Uni Basic ?


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