Re: Differences
Trevor, Welcome to the lists! To answer your question, DB2 is a marketing term within IBM which denotes a family of databases (which includes DB2 itself, UniVerse, UniData, and others). Therefore, a course in DB2 (the database) does not qualify you for other databases within DB2 (the *marketing* term). UniVerse and UniData are siblings. As a result, they share a lot of traits but have certain points where they are fiercely different. This list is an excellent source for getting to know these two databases. -- - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Zeus Data Integration [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Consulting services (718) 762-3884 x 1 - Key Ally Voice mail Mount Olympus, Home of Zeus Data Integration Trevor McNamara wrote: Hey, Can someone please answer some questions as i am unsure on some database types. Whats the difference between DB2 and UniVerse/UniData? Are they the same sort of structure? Can you do a DB2 course and be qualified enough to use UniVerse? Any other information or websites on this sort of thing (Newbie questions:) ) would be much appreciated. Thanks Trev -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Frontend to UniVerse?
Trevor, [AD] You could push the data out using Zeus Data Integration and SAMBA. [/AD] There are a lot of ways, both programmable and buyable. If you check the archives of this list, you'll see a lot of discussion on pushing data to Crystal Reports in the last few months. -- - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Zeus Data Integration [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Consulting services (718) 762-3884 x 1 - Key Ally Voice mail Mount Olympus, Home of Zeus Data Integration Trevor McNamara wrote: Hey, I would like to know what programming languages would be best to program a frontend to a UniVerse 10 database? Database on AIX5 P Series. I have done a frontend to a SQL Database using VS .NET before but nothing from a UNIX database? The frontend end would run on WinXP Machines and need to run commands on the AIX machines to run daily processes and also reporting as well as you are currently manually putting in the UniQuery and then importing it into excel would be great if we could use Crystal Reports like i used on my SQL frontend. Any help of websites reguarding this please let me know. Thanks in advance. Trev -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [UV] Max RecId Length with Type1 files
John, Type 1 is only there for backward compatibility. Type 19 does the same job but has fewer complications. -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've encountered a problem such that when writing records to a Type 1 file, with a Record Id length greater than 41 characters, the Record Id is truncated to the first 41 characters. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV 10.7 and replication
Jeremy, Welcome to the group! I'm not familiar with the replication error you're having but it sounds like you may want to simply try making the replication time a lot longer. If the problem goes away, keep halving the time until you find a 'sweet spot'. It doesn't fix the problem, but it may make it go away long enough for you to find a real answer. -- - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Zeus Data Integration [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Consulting services (718) 762-3884 x 1 - Key Ally Voice mail Mount Olympus, Home of Zeus Data Integration Jeremy Adell wrote: Hello all, The frequency of replication is 1 minute. Yesterday. the publishing system, another risc running on aix 5.1 with UV 10.7, began to periodically give the error message 'udr log daemon is not responding, will try again' when trying to update certain files on publishing system. When the error message appears, the files will not be updated. A few seconds later, the same file may be updated without an error message. -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: We need a web based Forum!
Kate, A forum is a message board. If you subscribe to a listserver list (like this one) you start reading and responding from that point forward and everything is ::pushed:: to you mail box. With a forum, you can easily look at posts which pre-date your joining (a big plus) and you have to go to the forum board(s) to find new posts and new responses instead of simply receiving the new stuff as it happens (a big minus). - Charles Dictionary Barouch Kate Stanton wrote: My ignorance is showing. What is the difference between a forum and a list (like this)? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [UD] Known ODBC Linux or 6.0 issues?
Ken, At the risk of stating the obvious, have you checked that the correct version of the SUBR is cataloged? Sorry to have to throw this out without fully researching it first, but I've got a client with a pressing problem. They are in the final stages of preparing to switch over from their current DG-UX Intel platform running UniData 5.2 to a new Linux based system running 6.0 and ODBC doesn't appear to be working correctly when they access virtual fields that call SUBRoutines. Ken - Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: GUI as nice as character-based
Dawn, What constitutes an acceptable level of client install? After all, if they are running a Mac, Wintel, Linux box, etc., they have pre-installed software. What about auto-install, auto-config software? that requires nothing of the user, but still requires additional software. - Chuck Why's the Sky Blue Barouch Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote: Citrix and I don't get along -- too many bad memories trying to set up ODBC so that client machines ... anyway, I know that there are reasons that shops use it, just as there are reasons I hope not to have to touch the product again ;-) And I didn't intend for Java to be the only possible solution to fit the rules -- I just tried to be sure to rule out the V-word ;-) [Just a little joke there -- I actually think that Visage is likely an excellent choice for Microsoft-centric sites and I'm a Ross-fan myself, remember] Cheers! --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:21 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: GUI as nice as character-based Dawn, Citrix Server would break DLG (Dawn's Law of GUI) rule 4 anyway, as you would need to pre-install Citrix client software on most platforms. BTW Dawn, do you have a mathematic proof of DLG ? Just wondering, 'cause just like the Great Date Debate, many may be happy to 'bend' these rules because they don't apply to the environment they use ? For example, Citrix has MANY other advantages, especially in larger organizations, when it comes to issues like securing the desktop, and centralized updates etc. In Wyatt's case, he can simply install SmartTerm (oops, Windows only product, breaks rule 1 - hmm, but with Citrix his client 'can' be a Mac ?!!? Your proof could be 'interesting' ?!?!) onto his Server, and it then requires no pre-installation. He can have a link on a web page to download the Citrix client software does this 'break' your 'rules', or does it fit ? Of course Citrix Server/Terminal Server has an important place in larger enterprises, addressing issues like security, desktop lockdown, patch/update management, software distribution etc - which transcend DLG Also with your rule revision below, as with the original DLG, you still haven't included the J word, which I believe is an implicit (and understood) requirement for DLG !?! Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage - an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn M. Wolthuis Sent: Tuesday, 20 April 2004 5:14 AM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: GUI as nice as character-based Ah, I should add or modify one of the requirements -- when I indicated that there needs to be no setup on the client, I should put that in the client tier and consider citrix servers to be application clients, of sorts. So, for my purposes (though not for everyone), a citrix server is not an option. 1. Client Tier (no setup) 2. Http Server Tier (could include app server, such as tomcat or EJB container such as Eclipse or WebSphere) 3. Database Server Tier I'll clarify the requirements to add no more tiers. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Buffington, Wyatt Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:57 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: GUI as nice as character-based We have been using a product called SmarTerm from Esker. It allows us to displays screen close to GUI that is easily configureable by the end user with little to no programming. It allows for HotSpots which appear as a button on the screen which the user can click on. Buttons are a list of things that a user can do that are mundane or repetitive, these can save wear and tear on the old fingers. It has a GUI pop up calendar that can be invoked from the host and the date returned back to the host. The user can change the colors on the screen to match their preferences. Email addresses and http links are highlighted differently and can be clickable. You can create you our macros that can be run from a Button. We use triggers to change our screen colors depending on which account we are in. If anyone is interested in a screen shot of what can be done. Email me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are currently using Version 11.0.5 on both PCs and Citrix Servers. I am also in the process of testing 12.1 Beta. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:45 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: GUI as nice as character-based Dawn: Good luck in your search for this holy grail. Lemme know if such a silver bullet is found. I've been hunting for years. Mark Johnson Original Message - From:
Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports
Mark, Cubes are a way of displaying data. All those 1NF is the only way people discovered that flat data makes doesn't server whole categories of users. So they invented cross-linked (usually browser viewable) report format where for example: SALES OVERHEAD 01/01/04 $1,000,000$657,823 Would be displayed and you can click on the dollar amounts to 'drill down' into the details. On that page, you should be able to drill down through a detail like 'expenses' to see the details of that value, and so on. - Charles CB3 Barouch Mark Johnson wrote: Not to be out of touch, but what is a Sales Cube. I saw Swordfish and I hope that itn't it. Thanks. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports In a message dated 4/18/2004 10:18:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, aligning this back to the original post, rather than attempting to use CR for reporting, I'd simply create a Viságe.BIT cube to give the users free-form enquiry and data exploration facilities into their UV database. In our case we have replaced 300 sales analysis reports currently provided in our R5 system with a single Sales Cube - and this is one of the facilities that makes Viságe better than AccuTerm ! Warning! Salesman quote! C'mon Ross :) A dataset that includes 50 fields and I only want to see 6 on my report. So you replace that report with a cube where I (the user) have to figure out exactly what I want to see, build the proper query statement, format statement, display statement etc and then figure out how to tell the system to remember my statement so next time I don't have to THAT all again. You replaced the 300 reports, with one huge cube where you STILL have users recreating (or trying to) their original 300 reports... Users don't want to see 50 fields, they want to see the 6 fields they've been analyzing for the past 3 years ... Will -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV to Text Conversion Standard?
Ross, Perhaps we should all capitulate start to use flat CSV files ? You expect delimiters? When I started in computers, our binary only had zeros - and we were glad to have them! The thing about MV or flat really comes down to a case-by-case to my way of thinking. I generally program Order Entry systems as 1NF, even on MV systems. Pricing, Inventory, and any number of other parts tend to lend themselves to MV. I like being able to choose the best form for each case. -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: PI Open is going away
PI/Open-ers, I'd like to write a 'memorial' article for Database Trends acknowledging the PI and Prime contributions to the community as a whole. Would a few of you be willing to write up some brief paragraphs on things like: So I said to Mike, we'll call them I Descriptors and he said it would never catch on... In other words, I'd like to collect some personal stories about how these functions came about. If I get enough (and enough variety) I'll present it to my editors. Contributions to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Conversions
Mark, Tell them you are re-purposing the old MV system as a data warehouse as a cost savings measure. That they'll understand and hopefully appreciate. Then do what you suggested: One strange thought occurred to me that may not fly. Export all the sales/customer/product data back to the MV system and use the existing reports. At least they're already tested finished. Because that's the first step in creating a serious data warehouse. -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Conversions
Mark, As a Business Process Consultant (one of my hats), here's how I would approach it. 1. You are already moving in the correct direction by pointing up productivity loss, but you have to frame the argument correctly: 1. We have implied and explicit deadlines in serving our customers. We will fail to meet them due to lost productivity unless we act now. Acting now will require either major changes to the new system to add critical functions, or a significant increase in staffing (with all the related costs). The first option will take a great deal of time and will be expensive. The second choice will take less time but will permanently decrease profitability by increasing staffing levels for an indefinite period of time. Doing nothing will cost us customers and that decreases revenue. 2. The changes are producing a morale problem. This will resolve itself over time, but combined with the current drop in productivity due to feature loss, it can become a major problem. 2. Understand that management may have reasons other than the pretty GUI: 1. The reporting at *their* level may be perceived as better (it might even be better) in the new system. 2. GUI is much easier for *occasional* users. Managers tend to be occasional users. 3. The business model may bee changing and management hasn't chosen to share the details at your level. The new system may be part of a larger plan. 4. Someone might have bought for non practical reasons: (my son sells this, my competitor has this, my accountant said it was good, etc.) Saying it is bad may become emotional for the person who recommended or authorized the new system. 3. Build details: 1. Get the people (lower mgmt) who are getting hurt to give you stats (we had xxx Orders completed per hour before, now we have yyy). 2. Depending on your audience, you might be better off showing Pie Charts - especially if management thinks GUI is pretty. 4. Be on their side: 1. This sucks, why did you do it is a bad tactic. 2. We are seeing a drop in accuracy and the customers are noticing is much more inclusive. 3. Tone, attitude, and word choices will have a huge effect on your success. 4. Choose your cc:s carefully. Bob the CFO might have taken your side if you'd let him bring the case to the Bill the CEO, but you cc:ed the CEO. Mary the A/P manager might have ignored you, but you cc:ed Alice the A/R manager, so she has to reply and appear clever in her reply. Don't play politics, but don't dare ignore it. If you need more, I'll have to charge you by the hour. :) -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Johnson wrote: Does anyone have a short paper on the care and feeding of both the company and its employees during a conversion/migration from one system to another. I'm facilitating a migration from MV/Results/Primac to Great Plains and it is a very large mismatch. GP seems to be shopping-cart oriented and Results/Primac are more of a traditional Order Entry system. I can't seem to convey that difference as management (read: those who don't use the computer) like the GUI and all of the nice links and screens. The worker bees are in a turmoil with the increased amount of carpal-tunnel potential mouse/keyboard back and forth as well as the absense of many functions that were present under the MV app. Their productivity has fallen 75% as it takes 4x longer to enter an order. There are no sales tax lookups, no product or customer lookups. You clearly cannot scroll through 35,000 line items. There's no easy alternate shipping addresses and the original reports leave a lot to be desired. The accounting package is appealing but a company doesn't exist just for the accounting dept. Not to mention all the hamburger-helper features i've installed over the last 6.5 years. I also have to fabricate custom reports with Crystal Reports and/or Access as there are many fields of data that should be there like customer back orders, sample customers, customer categories and a whole truckload of sales reporting fields that simply don't exist. Am I wrong in concluding that Great Plains is just a glorified shopping cart application. Has anyone else experienced this kind of mis-match, especially with great plains. At least i could inform the users that others have these growing pains. There doesn't seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel for them. thanks in advance. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Conversions
Please IGNORE last post. It was meant to be private. I was meant to be asleep. Sincerely, Charles Barouch -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: The lists are closing
David, Don't put 'volunteer' in the past tense. We will be looking for SIG leaders soon, we will be looking for forum moderators soon, and we will be transitioning to an elected board. There's always work for more hands in an organization of this type. If IBM keeps growing the U2 market (and it seems to be growing as we speak) then there will only be more need in the future, not less. - Charles I Volunteered Barouch David Wolverton wrote: LOL - Ron - where were you while they were BEGGING for people to become members and attend conference call meetings to decide how to set up the user's group and forum area? It was MONTHS ago that they asked for input, but probably got just enough to realize they'd have to wing it... And in reality, for a totally NON-funded, volunteer effort, all I can say is **WOW**... GOOD JOB!! I look at it like this: If you had to do it yourself, honestly, could you have done a better, more professional job? And if so, why didn't you volunteer to assist?!? They would have LOVED to have more help I'm sure!! Be glad people who are willing to do labors of love are here, and willing to share... I look forward to the group pushing forward - perhaps the forum software in use will have to ability to support email posts, but then again, that's when the spam messages start hitting! g Clif - thanks for the work over the ages - This email forum has been one of my 'must do' areas - just to stay abreast of where people are taking the software - even places IBM and others probably never imagined - the resources have been incredible... David W. snip If this statement is true it sounds like someone wasn't listening or asking the users if they were even interested in this forum idea. It seems to have been done without the input of the very people it is supposed to serve. For the record, I have unlimited internet access both at work and at home but I think the forum idea sucks. I want my list info via email so I can filter it and read it offline at a time that is convenient for me and my employer. I have subscribed to U2UG but I don't expect to spend much time there. Ron White snip -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: dhl shipping software integration
George, I've done direct ODBC for UPS and FedEx from mv (D3 on linux in my case), so I suspect that DHL has to have the same ability. - Charles I actually received a check for .02 cents this week Barouch George Gallen wrote: Currently We integrate with our UPS Worldship software by FTPing our shipping info over to the UPS machine, then an ODBC is setup to link the ftp file to it's own use. Then all we need to do is key in a key on the UPS software, it looks up the shipping and everything else needed and fills in automagically. As well, when we close out the UPS machine, it creates a file which we then FTP out and parse apart for the tracking#. Does anyone know if DHL's software can handle the same thing? or what methods you use to interface with DHL shipping software. Any not too pricy ($1000) 3rd party solutions ok as well. We are on UV on Unix, and the DHL machine is on the network. Thanks George George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph:856.848.1000 Ext 220 SLACK Incorporated - An innovative information, education and management company http://www.slackinc.com -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
Trevor, I *think* the issue is that the mv runtime does typecast variables on the fly, transparently. Which means that assigning a number or the result of a numeric expression (AVAR = 1 * 3) results in AVAR becoming an Integer variable. If you then say something 'string-ish' (AVAR = The answer is : AVAR) then the variable is recast on the fly into a String variable. - Charles Constant Barouch Trevor Ockenden wrote: Thank you Will but I consider A = 1 to be an assignment of the number 1 being the result of expression 1 which in my books is numeric. To clarify this point for others... anything on the right hand side of an assignment symbol (in this case =) is an expression Cheers Trevor Ockenden OSP - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:35 AM Subject: Re: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing In a message dated 3/30/2004 12:35:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are partly correct when you say UV treats all data as strings. However, if the UV programmer is careful he/she can get it to do maths processing. Variables within UVBasic are string unless the result of an expression is numeric whereby it becomes numeric. UV stores numeric data such as dates, time and numbers as a string value with no decimal point etc. quite deliberately. Trevor partly right. However the MvBASIC statement A = 1 makes the variable A into a numeric typed datum. I'm not sure you could say this is the result of an expression being mathematical, after all Store is both a string and a numeric command. The system converts the loading of a purely numeric argument into a LOADN or STOREN type command on some MV systems, which the loading of a string is a LOAD or LOADS or STORES or something similar to that. Of course the programmer just says A = 1 or A = DOG and doesn't have to worry about how the argument is typed in the run engine. Run Engine Will -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG 6.0. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.642 / Virus Database: 410 - Release Date: 25/03/2004 -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
Michael, If you have VISAGE questions, Ross Ferris of STAMINA is a list member (we still have a few days in which we can call ourselves list members) and I'm sure he can answer your pricing and technology questions. - Charles We'll miss Clif Barouch Michael Spencer wrote: Last I looked at Visage, it: 1) required javascript skills 2) had no published price 3) had no developer copy available 4) had not only a developers cost but a per seat cost Apart from those 4 problems, however, the movies did make it look like an impressive product. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Sent: March 29, 2004 3:02 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing You want Pick on the web... simple, use Visage! Patrick Will Williams, President American Computer Technics, Inc. 919-567-0042 Raleigh, NC - Original Message - From: David T. Meeks To: U2 Users Discussion List Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:37 AM Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing While one could make the argument that Pick has not embraced emerging technologies as rapidly as the 'Big Three', it HAS done so. U2, for example, has support for Java connectivity, XML, and I believe they either have or are working on Web Services support (I know, for example, that the DSEngine in DataStage has support for Web Services). One could argue the need or purpose of supporting certain technologies, and the level of support currently within the products, but to say that there is little/no support is a bit uninformed. The U2 products ARE supported in certain Integration software. I wouldn't typically consider SAP/PeopleSoft integration software. They are Enterprise Software Suites, but not geared particularly at 'integration'. However, given that SAP and PeopleSoft OEM the DataStage product sets for both of their integration products (SAP's BW, PeopleSoft's EPM, JDEdwards stuff as well), and given DataStage works very well with both U2 products, this point is actually wrong. People who have SAP or PeopleSoft solutions CAN, very easily, integrate their U2 data to/from those environments. As to 'efficiency', one can measure that in a variety of different dimensions. From a memory/disk space/footprint/administrative overhead dimensions, the U2 database products are VERY efficient. Finally, as to being slow, again this depends on the measurement criteria being used. From the perspective of concurrent user access and the performance of application style DB usage (largely input/output, multiple concurrent users, etc..), the U2 products stand up very well to the mainstream guys. For support of VLDB, highly transactional query-based usage models, and the like, it does not. Trying to make the U2 products into what they are not is wrong. They are not the panacea for every database requirement. However, for certain problems, especially those for which it was designed (embedded database for application development), it is very efficient. Dave At 10:24 PM 3/28/2004 -0500, you wrote: PICK is LEGACY Technology and does NOT Support alot of advanced level computing we have today. I belive PICK is Similiar to Legacy DB2 that used ISAM type of DataBases Access. Even IBM has moved DB2 (Now UDB) to a completly relational architecture. I belive some of the below are good reasons to Migrate to MainStream (Top 3 - DB2/Oracle/MSSQL etc) Databases. 1. UV has Little/NO support for Emerging Technologies(XML/XQuery/XSLT/WML etc) 2. UV is Not supported in Most Integration Enterprise Software (SAP/PeopleSoft) 3. UV is Not efficient compared to highly evolved databases(DB2/Oracle) 4. UV Folks seem to use PICK, which is Not Compatible with many of of the Current Advanced Technologies and Techniques. 5. UV is very SLOW, TOO Procedural and Not the right tool for an OLTP Environment. It would be nice if IBM provided a Package to convert all UV Stuff to IBM DB2 and perhaps provide some kinda code converter to convert all pick stuff to DB2 Stored Procs or Java Native Compiled Procedures. I belive this would be ideal and would help corportations intergrate systems easily. Joe Eugene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Phil Walker Sent: Sun 3/28/2004 7:59 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: The lists are closing David, As the list is closing this is probably not off topic - so I will comment. I believe PICK has been around since the mid to late 1960's, whereas Oracle and the SQL relation model has been around only since the mid to late 1970's early 1980's if you are talking about Oracle etc. I may be wrong. Phil Walker +64 21 336294 [EMAIL PROTECTED] infocusp limited \\ PO Box 77032, Auckland New Zealand \ www.infocusp.co.nz DISCLAIMER: This electronic message together with any attachments is
Re: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
Joe, Here's a few things to consider. MV environments (including UniVerse), allow for small teams to develop and adjust business rules more quickly than you can you can in Oracle, Sybase, or Informix. Published statistics show that MV environments are roughly twice as efficient in disk usage (smaller footprint means faster searches - forget the 'who cares, disk is cheap' argument, search speed is always a premium issue). MV environments are typically three times as efficient on CPU and memory usage. That means that a given system running an MV environment is triple the speed of a Big Three database even when you ignore search speed. Also, since Datastage is one of the best data warehousing systems in the world (and it has a common ancestry to the U2 technology), you can be assured that MV environments make excellent data marts, data warehouses, and data repositories. Informix bought the U2 technology just to get Datastage. -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
Joe, Have you checked the file sizes? Have you checked the index parameters? I'll make you a bet. You bring me in for a week (i'll probably need most of that week to prove my results, the fixes will take less than a day) and I bet you we can make a meaningful improvement in your response time. Just because UV doesn't require an Admin full time doesn't mean it won't benefit from occasional tune ups. -- Sincerely, Charles Give me a Week and I'll take down your Wait Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joe Eugene wrote: Charles, Our Customer Information is stored in UV and accessed via PICK. This FILE (as UV ppl call it) contains around 500,000 Records in it. Everything is INDEXED Per UV Standards. Here is simple WILD CARD Search Test. RESULTS Machine: 950 MHZ Athlon Database: MSSQL SERVER 2K Records: 20 Million Indexes: NO Search Time: 2 Seconds -- Machine: QUAD Processor Box (4 GHZ) Database: MSSQL SERVER 2K Records: 500,000 Indexes: YES Search Time: 15 - 20 Seconds I had to Increase the Time out on application servers to support MR.SLOW UV! How do you think I am supposed to believe UV Performs Well. Thanks, Joe Eugene -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: The lists are closing
Clif, Your work here, even if it is carried over perfectly there, will be missed. We have all benefited from your light hand on the tiller. These sort of lists often die of neglect or of tyranny. You steered us clear of both and instead created a vibrant and live place where people could exchange ideas, opinions, and solutions. You have be invaluable to our community. - Charles Barouch Moderator wrote: Dear Friends: After 10+ years of either hosting or supporting the info-prime, info-unidata, info-vmark, info-informix, and u2-users etc lists, I have decided to shut down the list server. u2-users and u2-community will cease to exist as of 1 April 2004. IBM is officially supporting the efforts of the new U2UG.org group. (Yes. I am a member of the establishing Board of that group. So this is not a coup or Sour Grapes!) If you check out the forums that have been set up, I think you will will see that they cover everything anyone has asked for over the years in this group. I *really* want to encourage ALL of you to come over the the www.u2ug.org site and support this effort. This is *exactly* what many of you on this list have wanted over the years. If Not Now, When? Almost ten years on my Watch. How many years before that on Mike O'Rear's Watch? In the Net World, this has been a Hell of a good run. (I just couldn't resist tripping the Net Nanny filters one last time very evil grin) I'll see all of you on the other media, ok? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: SB+ Information
Kevin and everyone else, I'm collecting resource links for the MV Community. I'll add the SB+ group to the list I keep at the end of the MV Calendar I do for Database Trends, and on the one I'm doing for the U2UG.org folks. If you know of any other links like this, please share with me so I can help promote them. - Charles www.keyally.com/mvcalendar.html and soon U2UG.org Barouch Kevin King wrote: The group is sbsolutions @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sbsolutions. We're alive and well and always open to new members. --Kevin Moderator, SBSolutions http://www.PrecisOnline.com -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Uniobjects
Steve, Look at NRG (Nucleus Accuterm). The screens are fast, the security is all server based (even at the field level), and the tool allows you to use the same code base to service green screens during the transition. Nucleus also lets you develop for the web and use those web pages as green screens as well. http://www.binarystar.com -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Mayo wrote: Hi Everyone, We are in the process of analyzing different approaches to porting our software to a GUI environment. We are currently looking at Uniobjects for Java, System Builder, jBase with ObjEx, OpenInsight and Obsydian (which I have yet to get information on). If you have any other ideas or have gone through this process, I would like to know a few things: 1) How is the response time with multiple windows up at the same time? 2) How did you deal with security? We need field level security. 3) The approach you used to convert the screens, etc. We are using Unidata on AIX, have 40+ users and have in excess of 200 screens. Any help would be appreciated. Steve Mayo -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Correlative
Katie, F1;(ML#30);10;: The width of 30 will make the wrapping happen. -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kate Stanton wrote: I have a file with field 1 containing description (30 chars), and field 10 containing notes (30 characters, multi-value). For reports, I want to print a single column containing description with notes underneath. So if description is Name of item and notes line 1 is: First line of notes, line 2 is 2nd line of notes, I want a column of: Name of item 1st line of notes 2nd line of notes I have tried the following correlative: F1;' ';1;30;[];10;: but it repeats the description before each line of notes: Name of item 1st line of notes Name of item 2nd line of notes If I just concatenate with F1;10;: I am not surprised to get: Name of item1st line of notes 2nd line of notes I can't for the life of me work out how to do it. Can anyone help? Please! TIA, Kate Kate Stanton Walstan Systems Ltd 4 Kelmarna Ave, Herne Bay, Auckland, New Zealand ph +64 9 360 5310 fax +64 9 376 0750 ah +64 9 378 9594 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: FW: UniVerse vs Progress Performance
Tim, You raise some good points. I always start with file sizes because it is usually easy to diagnose and frequently a quick win to get some speed back. André needs to also look at the complexity of the application. The 430 might be doing little more than they could do on a spreadsheet and the 190 might be doing complex sales analysis, stock modeling, JIT manufacturing, and logistics. Just because they are in the same business does not mean the software has similar abilities. The fact is, they may have done something brilliant with their system and your 'mileage' might be completely typical while they are experiencing atypically good results. Just because we are mv doesn't mean no one else is working at exploiting the efficiencies of those other systems. - Charles Right-Sized Barouch Timothy Snyder wrote: André Nel wrote on 03/23/2004 04:07:09 AM: Comparing the 2 boxes, the amount of users on each box, any reason why we are struggling with the 190 users? The transaction volumes of the company running 430 users are considerably higher than ours? You haven't provided enough information to say for certain; evaluating performance bottlenecks can be quite involved. How many disks are being used, and what type of RAID is employed? What are you seeing as far as CPU utilization? You can use sar or topas to determine this. Naturally, there are many, MANY metrics to consider, but seeing the way user, system, and I/O wait time are represented is a good place to start. Tim Snyder IBM Data Management Solutions Consulting I/T Specialist , U2 Professional Services Office (717) 545-6403 (rolls to cell phone) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: U2 file articles in International Spectrum
Ross, What do you want to know? I am willing to be bribed for any/all information and I'm both cheap and easy. - Charles That came out wrong Barouch Ross Ferris wrote: I wonder when Gus is going to update the website, so those of us outside USA can have a read !?! Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: U2 file articles in International Spectrum
Ross, L-O-quint, as always. The show was 200-ish people in a nice sized venue with 75 or so classes on everything from products (including VISAGE and Zeus), technology (PDA programming, OO programing, GUI overview), technique (AIX/UniVerse Pitfalls, Help Desk Survival), and more. The floor had a wide range of vertical and database vendors, supplemented by booths for Database Trends, Spectrum Magazine, horizontals like OHM, and the Spectrum Deli (I kid you not). It was three and one half days of Revelation, Reality, U2, UniVision, D3, jBASE, and more. It marked the first Spectrum (that I know of) where Microsoft bought breakfast and ran special seminars. - Charles Hey, I forgot to take a bribe before I spilled my guts Barouch Ross Ferris wrote: Ahhh, what do I want to know and the answer given by all good users is if I knew what I didn't know then I wouldn't have to ask, but I don't know WHAT I don't know, so I don't know ! (or sumfin like dat) Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: U2 file articles in International Spectrum
Jeff, I enjoyed the initial article. When you start the section titled The Hash Key the writing style changes for the better. The opening was a bit impersonal. From a technical standpoint, it wasn't new material for me, but it was is an excellent base for the rest of the series. I look to forward to the next entry. It's an excellent topic, complimented by strong writing. - Charles Picky Barouch Jeff Fitzgerald wrote: Peggy and I are writing a series of articles in Spectrum about U2 files. The first one is in the March/April issue which is just out. I'd be interested in reactions and feedback. The first article is pretty introductory; we're going to do five or six and will strive for some depth. Feel free to email any comments or post to the list if appropriate. Thanks! Jeff Fitzgerald Fitzgerald Long, Inc. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fitzlong.com (303) 755-1102 -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Spectrum Show
Everybody, The Spectrum show was small (200-ish) but very active. I got to spend time with Janet Oswald and Adam Van Beek (both of whom are IBM people who have commited time to the new international U2 User's group). Both my booth (Key Ally/Moose Enterprises) and the IBM booth gave out U2UG.org sticker and flyers. To all of you who could not be there, you missed a good show. There were several U2 specific classes and offerings. The next Spectrum, Sept. 2004, will be in London. The October show will be in Australia. If you can manage either show, it is well worth attending. -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Mvquery Client Not Responding
Brain, Let's be fair. Windows guesses at the responsiveness of all sorts of applications. I've had Windows XP tell me that FreeCel was non-responsive because my Anti-virus stole too many timeslices. - Charles Non-Responsive to Windows Barouch Brian Leach wrote: Dave, 1. Please do not post mvQuery questions to this list. Either send them to your mvQuery supplier, or to mvquery support. 2. The task manager will show mvQuery as not responding whilst it is waiting for the server to complete a select or process a record set. This is because control has passed from the mvQuery client across to the UniLink driver which is in turn awaiting messages from the server. mvQuery is still running, and will respond when the selection has completed: but whilst it is waiting it cannot respond to the task manager. You find the same thing whenever a Windows application is busy waiting for another component - e.g. Excel running an ODBC query. This is usually noticeable when you are running large or complex queries, or running against a limited server: for large queries we recommend using the Print Server edition as that does not impact upon the desktop. Regards, Brian Leach -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave S Sent: 11 March 2004 15:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mvquery Client Not Responding When running the Mvquery client on my desktop and performing a query, the windows task manager on my desktop will show that the process is not responding. After a few minutes, the task manager wll indicate that the process is running. I am running the 4.2 client on my desktop. The server is running Unidata 6.06 on Windows 2000. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ __ This email was checked by MessageLabs SkyScan before entering Microgen. This email was checked on leaving Microgen for viruses, similar malicious code and inappropriate content by MessageLabs SkyScan. DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information. In the event of any technical difficulty with this email, please contact the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microgen Information Management Solutions http://www.microgen.co.uk -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Memory Utilization
Timothy, Have look found a pattern in the slowdowns? It's possible that a program is hogging the CPU, or that only one file is horribly misused. I've had clients slowed to a crawl by an undersized control file that every application hits multiple times. Another candidate is locking. You may have a process which is choking other users by locking up critical items for minutes at a time. - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Timothy Harkin wrote: How does UniVerse take advantage of RAM on a server (Win2K). I have a poorly performing database with only 7 users. I am currently resizing files, but I have noticed that the server is using only about 192 MB of RAM, when there is 1 GB installed. Regards, Timothy Harkin -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [ADMIN] MOST IMPORTANT (Fwd: ENC: Notify about your e-mail account utilization.)
Moderator, Outlook is the platform of choice for viruses. :/ Sorry to hear that you got stung. - Charles Used Outlook once but didn't inhale Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moderator wrote: ALERT! It appears that someone on the list got infected with a virus. One of these beasties goes through the infected Microsoft address book and starts faking these admin messages to the other addresses in the book. THESE MESSAGES ARE NOT COMING FROM ANYONE AT OLIVER.COM ___ datastage-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/datastage-users -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UniVerse on NT vs *nix
Sara, As a professional trainer, I can assure you that the cost of training staff in a second O/S is smaller than the cost of lost productivity corporate-wide. Tell them that they are moving from known stability to an unknown. Even if it works, they are facing weeks or months of settling in time. The overtime and delays in setting up the new system are likely to be larger than the delays caused by training. Please also point out that staff sees training as 'the employer investing in them' and downtime as 'the employer is mad at me' - they'll know which is better for morale in IT and corporate-wide. - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sara Burns wrote: The general thinking is that it must be more effective to only have one operating system. Less staff training etc etc etc. As there is so much that is NT based they think that all should be on NT. That includes UniVerse and Oracle. Of course SQLServer doesn't have the choice. The fact that UniVerse and Oracle are supported on NT makes it that much harder to explain that this is not such a good idea. I need facts to back up my feelings. Some years ago I was told by one of the knowledgeable contributors to this list that We would be brave to go the NT route, as we would be the biggest site to do this. I am trying to find out if that has changed with the evolution of new versions of NT - now W2K3. Just my .02 -John -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: How to start windows programs
Björn, I know you can do it from AccuTerm, I don't know of a way to do it from wIntergrate. - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Björn Eklund wrote: Hi, Is there a way of starting windowsprograms on the users PC from a Unibasic program or do I need Wintergrate or some other tool to do that? I would like to send a invoice number away to an invoice archive on MS sql-server to get a pdf copy of the invoice in an Internet Exploreror acrobat reader window. Björn Eklund -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
SCO/Samba
Gang, I'm installing SAMBA on SCO (Open Server 5) tomorrow. All advice, hints, and tips appreciated. I've set up SAMBA before, but it was usually a config only issue (pre-installed) and this time I have to start from the install. - Charles I think I can - I Think I can Barouch -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UniVerse to excel feeds [AD]-ish
Don, We have a tool which can be automated to pull data at a specified time (or multiple times) from UniVerse and push it out in CSV (which can be read directly by excel). If that's a close enough fit, let me know. The product is called Zeus Data Integration and it retails for less than $1K. - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don Cutting wrote: Hi All, We are looking for a process, where a report run in UniVerse can feed direct into excel, with no human action being taken - or as little as possible. If you have a process or tool where you can do this, and are willing to share this information, please e-mail. We are on UniVerse 10.0.19 and AIX 5.2 Thank you in advance for your suggestions. Thanks and have a great day! Donald H. Cutting A. N. Deringer, Inc. D. B. A. / Systems Analyst Tel. (802)524-8172 Fax. (802)524-8297 www.anderinger.com Our Service Recommends Us! -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Recommended education
Marcie at Discovery Computer Systems does a good job: http://www.discoverycomputersystems.com/ - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cyndi Calvin wrote: Hi All, any recommendations for newbie education on UniVerse? My company has been using an old 7 version of universe for years and now I'll be upgrading and migrating (in the other order). Classes you'd recommend? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [ADMIN] The aforementioned and promised NAG about OVERQUOTING
Top Posting vs. Bottom Posting - didn't I see this in Gulliver's Travels with Big Endians and Little Endians? Where is our technical moxie boys and girls? With this group, I figured this would morph into a discussion on which of us could whip out a better e-mail client for parsing the responses to a different pane. Then we could fight about Right Posting vs. Left Posting. - Charles 'I deleted the entire previous response on this mail as a non-violent means of Civil Disobedience' Barouch -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Distributing U2 files
Dawn, The UniData DIR file is the functional equiv. to UniVerse Type 19. Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote: O bother ... I clicked before asking my other question ... If I create the files in UniData instead of Universe, what should the CREATE-FILE statement look like or is it important to make them type 19 Universe files? Can the same paragraph to alter them to dynamic work in both UV and UDT or not (I'm not very UV-savvy)? Thanks. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Schasny Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:04 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Distributing U2 files O bother... I forgot. Install procedure 4.5: Create Voc pointers (or send along a process to create them) -Original Message- From: Jeff Schasny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:59 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Distributing U2 files 1) Make your source files Universe type 19s (eliminate the whole fnuxi thing) 2) Gzip them all up along with a paragraph to be placed in the voc file to resize them to whatever filetype you prefer (I'd go with dynamic for anything other than source code files, but thats just me). Installation procedure would then be: 1) download the gzip file 2) ungzip into an existing Uni* directory 3) copy the paragraph to the VOC file 4) execute the paragraph 5) dance joyously -Original Message- I have a set of small UniData files that I would like folks to be able to receive via e-mail and then install. The requirements are: 1) OS can be most flavors of Windows or UNIX 2) DB can be UniData or Universe 3) I would like to have a single zipped up file for distribution, but if two or more are best, I'd like to know that 4) assume there is only a windows server available for the packaging function (no unix box available for that task) 5) the user should need to do almost nothing to be able to get to the point where they can type LIST filename for these files and have them work at the command prompt. Thanks in advance for your suggestions. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Face-to-Face U2 gathering
Tuesday, March 16th, at the Spectrum show, we will be having an informal get together at 5:00 PM. We'll all meet in the Exhibit Hall at the Key Ally table (right near the door, across from IBM) as the exhibits break for the evening. Unfortunately, we can not fund dinner (this time) but we'd like to see who we can get together from the list and share a meal. You don't have to register, but I'd like you to e-mail me in advance, if you can - I'd like to get a rough head count for when we scout restaurants. (Include any food restrictions.) - Charles 'Table for 150, Please Barouch -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Face-to-Face U2 gathering
Tuesday, March 16th, at the Spectrum show, we will be having an informal get together at 5:00 PM. We'll all meet in the Exhibit Hall at the Key Ally table (right near the door, across from IBM) as the exhibits break for the evening. Unfortunately, we can not fund dinner (this time) but we'd like to see who we can get together from the list and share a meal. You don't have to register, but I'd like you to e-mail me in advance, if you can - I'd like to get a rough head count for when we scout restaurants. (Include any food restrictions.) - Charles 'Table for 150, Please Barouch Note: Cross Posted from the Discussion list with the moderator's permission. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: version control software
Jeff, You can also look at Susan Josyln's offering: http://sjplus.com/sjphomepage.html - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry Hiscock wrote: I am looking for a version control application for U2 software development. Ideally it would have a check-out/check-in function, ability to track changes, migration dates, etc -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
MV Vendors
Gang, I'm managing two MV Community calendars (user group meetings, conferences, etc.). One is at www.keyally.com/mvcalendar.html and the other will be on the U2UG.org site in the near future. I need help. Please send me info, especially on Vendor-based events for anyone that has MV products. - Charles 'He's so slow they timed him with a calendar' Barouch -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Wintegrate, UD
Bjrn, You might also want to look at the AccuSoft graphical interface before you settle on wIntegrate. - Charles 'I also like the Nucleus/Accusoft Combo' Barouch Thomas Derwin wrote: You might find something useful in the code samples that come with Wintegrate. In Winteg 3, they're in the example subdirectory. Hope this helps, Tom -Original Message- From: Bjrn Eklund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 2/16/2004 4:30 AM snip I've downloaded the Wintegrate trial version but I don't know where to start. Should I redraw my screens in the Wintegrate dialog designer or what? I have downloaded all the manuals but can't find anything at a glance that shows me where to start my GUItilazation. snip -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Swap array values? In UV
Glen, XOR means Exlusive OR. Example: 00110 BITXOR 10011 yields 10101 because 0 XOR 1 = 1, 0 XOR 0 = 0, 1 XOR 0 = 1, (here's the tricky one) 1 XOR 1 = 0 (because it needs to be exclusive), and 0 XOR 1 = 1 10 1 0 1 The example is still hard to read, even when you understand XOR, because it is a counter-intuitive approach. It is, however, frighteningly clever. - Charles 'Exclusive' Barouch Glenn W. Paschal wrote: Ok, I love brainteasers, but to be honest, I don't see how this works, possibly because I am one of those who has never used BITXOR, and so don't readily understand it. Please elaborate! Thanks, --Glenn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Herbert Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:25 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Swap array values? In UV *lol* i agree it's nasty and not readily obvious as to it's intent, but that wasn't the question posed... sometimes it's just to exercise the mind At 02:36 PM 02/13/2004, you wrote: I understand why this works, but honestly, that's nasty. array(x)=BITXOR(array(x),array(y)); array(y)=BITXOR(array(y),array(x)); array(x)=BITXOR(array(x),array(y)); No temp variable used. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: D3 on NT
Tony, Could you do me a favor and not declare my entire market segment dead. You now have the keys to data integration heaven and you don't need to buy any more tools or migration services. The fact is, I could move data from any system to any other system before XML, we all could. The question is always the 'time value of money' equation. If a tool makes things work more consistently, faster, and with less setup time I still see a value. - Charles Barouch Tony Gravagno wrote: Without purchasing extra software, probably the easiest thing to do in a migration these days is to take advantage of free .NET features which allow seamless exchanges between XML and ADO.NET: 1) It's simple to write code to wrap data in XML. 2) You can use a program provided with the .NET Framework to generate a Schema from the XML into a .XSD file. 3) ADO.NET imports XSD files to create an internal map of a dataset. 4) With one line of code ADO.NET can read XML and store the data as a relational dataset. Connecting the dots: It's easy to go from any MV platform into XML, then into ADO.NET, and from there to any Relational DBMS. And now that I've let the cat out of the bag, I have to retire a poor man. You now have the keys to data integration heaven and you don't need to buy any more tools or migration services. Seriously the way the technology is implemented depends on the application. If you ARE interested in data migrations From any platform To any platform, I'll be happy to help. Tony Nebula RD Former D3 DBMS Product Manager, Raining Data Technical Editor, C#Builder Kick Start, SAMS Publishing Author, Web Services and .NET series, Spectrum Magazine -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: TNET Client/Site licensing inquiry failed
In English (According to iTools.com): Type of event: Error Origin of the event: UDTnet Category of the event: Unknown Id. of the event: 1002 Date: 09/02/2004 Hour: 07:14:52 p.m. User: not available Description: TNET Client/Site licensing inquiry failed It sounds like a problem with Licencing, not with the software or the installation. Sonidos como un problema con Licencing, no con el software ni la instalación. Yimi Lopez wrote: I HAVE UNIDATA 5,2 IN WINDOWS 2000, And The FOLLOWING ERROR : Tipo de suceso: Error Origen del suceso: UDTnet Categoría del suceso: Ninguno Id. del suceso: 1002 Fecha: 09/02/2004 Hora: 07:14:52 p.m. Usuario: No disponible Descripción: TNET Client/Site licensing inquiry failed REINSTALL The DATA BASE AGAIN , And HAS BEEN CONTINUING LEAVING THIS ERROR. THIS ERROR REMOVES To ALL From the SYSTEM SOMEBODY HAS HAD THE SAME ERROR -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Real Time Data Warehouse
Tom, Sixty to ninety days from now, I'll have a solution for you ::sigh:: I have the UniVerse side in my Tier I product (Zeus) but the SQL won't be until Tier II (in development) and I may or may not have the jBASE bits by then. You may want to look at writing a straight SQL read/write solution with UniVerse handling everything through phantoms. As to DataStage - we have a Stager or two on the list with us - I'm sure they'll be happy to respond. - Charles 'SQL is Dead, Dawn Said So, but I'm still adding it to my product' Barouch Tom Firl wrote: So, I'm moving on from my encrypted database problem (that was put on hold) and now I have a new, interesting problem. I'm looking at a proposal that seems to demand a solution that is a cross between a data replication system and a data warehouse. The system needs to be able to Extract data from a feed up updates to specified Universe or jBASE files in real-time (once a minute, or so will suffice), do some Transformation on the data, then Load the data into a DB2 or SQL Server (not my implementation requirement... don't yell at me). During peak times, I'm supposing could be over a thousand updates per minute written to the data replication feed. I don't know if it's reasonable to expect this system to be able to handle that kind of throughput... that is to be determined. The rationale for the system is to allow people to use standard reporting, OLAP, and BI tools. In industry parlance, I think such a system is called a Real Time Data Warehouse (RTDW). So, here's where you can help... I'm brainstorming for design/implementation ideas. First, I'm trying to get the lay-of-the-land of tools and companies that can help with the ETL (Extract-Transform-Load) part of this project (is this what DataStage does?). Where do I look? Second, I'm searching for clever ideas about how to create and extract the data feed containing file updates -- such as leveraging UV-DR. I'd prefer to create the data replication feed in isolation from the ETL tool. Seeing as I'm a little lazy (and hoping we won't have to roll our own) I'd like to evaluate off-the-shelf solutions. TIA, Tom Firl Columbia Ultimate -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Document scan and retrieval (looking for software)
George, When did 'google' become a verb? I'm not objecting to your use - I say it, too. I'm just not sure when we started verbing that noun. - Charles 'I was an English Major In College and Look What Happened' Barouch George Gallen wrote: RE: Document scan and retrieval (looking for software) I thought smb was simple message block? I haven't googled it, just from memory... George -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:04 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Document scan and retrieval (looking for software) "Included with" and "part of" aren't the same thing. That's why the samba teamdumped smbclientfrom the samba package! (but put it back when too many people moaned.) By the way - "smb" is an IBM acronym for "Server Message Block" so even the fact that the names are similar is no evidence that they are part and parcel of the same thing. They just happen to have the same ancestor way back, like a load of your cousins share the same surname as you ... Cheers, Wol From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeff Schasny Sent: 04 February 2004 15:32 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Document scan and retrieval (looking for software) Actualy smbclient is part of samba and works quite nicely in reading and writing to windows shares. smbmount is only available on linux samba installs.If someone would like a couple UVBasic programs to "put" and "get" via smbclient I'd be glad to send them along. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] If you want to use a unix *client* to access a Windows server, you need smbmount and friends, which are not not not samba. If you want to what you suggest, using samba, you need to get the pcs to save directly into a nix directory which samba has exported to the network, rather than getting a nix box to monitor a windows directory. Cheers, Wol *** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
