Re: [ubuntu-art] [REQUEST] Sound designers?
I like to tip. =)Well, since I'm not around my studio at the moment I don't have any hands-down examples. But I was thinking about a sort of soft choir with some rhythmic percussion pad. That would give it an organic sound, while a good use of the stereofield and clever reverbing could make it quite vivid. But I think it would be quite nice to get away from the sampled synthesizer sound that every OS has had since the days when the dinosaurs walked the earth. :) /weidel2006/8/1, Peter Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/08/06, Niklas Weidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow I get a sort of dated feeling from most of those. They are very 90's OS type, and the sounds are a bit FM synthesis dated-feel as well. I might be nitpicking, but I'd like for Ubuntu to have something truly new and much more organic and vivid. My 5 cents. 5 cents I normally only accept 2 :p I'm all up for vivid and organic, give me some examples of what you mean and I'll try for it. Vivid and organic can mean totally different things to different people. Dictionary definitions do not apply in peoples perceptions. If you can find some examples, that'd be great! I'm open to ideas, if all else fails we have some fall back sounds.-- Pete Savage - cbx33::silentk wiki.ubuntu.com/PeteSavage --ubuntu-art mailing listubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Bar charts required for Fridge
Hi guys, Any of you fancy helping out with a Fridge story? Here are the details: Possible Fridge story: http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1202417,00.html has some great data about Ubuntu and security (it would be great to see some of that data in a bar chart if that's possible!). If someone wants to create some bar charts, and/or other graphics to accompany the story, please get in touch. We're looking for someone with a designer's eye and who can turn something round fairly quickly. Cheers! -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Bar charts required for Fridge
Matthew Revell wrote: Hi guys, Any of you fancy helping out with a Fridge story? Here are the details: "Possible Fridge story: http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1202417,00.html has some great data about Ubuntu and security (it would be great to see some of that data in a bar chart if that's possible!)." If someone wants to create some bar charts, and/or other graphics to accompany the story, please get in touch. We're looking for someone with a designer's eye and who can turn something round fairly quickly. I know Chris Kenyon (cc'd) is working on something related to this! Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Theme Team application addendum
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 19:18, you wrote: Hi, On Aug 2, 2006, at 12:17 AM, Nathan Eckenrode wrote: Great! I am wondering if there is someone who heads the Kubuntu Artwork project or this is to be lumped in with the developement cycle with Ubuntu as concerns Edgy. Is there a schedule for creation of these works, it appears as if the wiki is a bit slim on information in this regard. I am artist in chief for Kubuntu in the edgy cycle, which does not mean that I will make all the artwork myself, but rather that I will help others to create a theme which is decidedly kubuntu :-) If you are interested in joining the effort, by all means, do so! Awesome! Glad to ~meet~ you. Note that the wiki (http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork) is the best place to find current info about artwork (check http:// wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming for the latest stuff). I may just be a dunce, I could not find anything that looked like a road map for kubuntu - like I have seen the process laid out for ubuntu - which was the second part of my question really, SO basically, where are we and what do we need next. I do not want to go ahead a do whatever it is I feel like doing, for this may be something that is already covered. If at all possible, I'd like to step into the process and help out with what we are focusing on right now. Kubuntu hopes to have it's own look while in some ways relating to Ubuntu, as do all the other projects. The idea is to allow as much freedom as possible between the projects (not hinder creativity) while creating a look and feel for each which is individual enough to stand on it's own or next to the others and be recognizable as a related project. Bye, Ken On Tuesday 01 August 2006 12:30, you wrote: Hi Nathan, It seems to me that kubuntu can also use ubuntu-art and ubuntu- art- discuss as they are described below. What we would need would be one list for the default kubuntu theme. I made a page on the wiki (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ Documentation/ KubuntuPhilosophy) which uses a name O2 although I have received only a few responses on it, so we might need to still discuss it. Bye, Ken On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Nathan Eckenrode wrote: just wondering if there is an art team for Kubuntu or am I on the wrong list? On Tuesday 01 August 2006 09:52, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Frank Schoep wrote: The full overview of Theme Teams is available on the following Wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/ThemeTeams The Theme Teams will now start working on their themes and I've gotten a few requests on using the main artwork mailing list for communications with the community. There's been a proposal by Mark in the past to create separate mailing lists for each Theme Team and I think now is a good moment to decide on the issue and take action if desired. It's great to see that activity getting more focused. On thing though, that page should definitely include an entry for Human, of course, as a theme team in its own right. Can I ask that we move forward with the specialisation of the mailing lists? I propose: *ubuntu-art*: Policy discussion that is relevant to all themes, such as the best way to integrate each theme into its own packages, and the selection of themes for inclusion in a release, as well as updates and summaries from the AiC's and the Art Council. Relatively low traffic. *ubuntu-theme-human*: messages specific to the Human theme and icon set for the current release. Should not include proposals for radical changes, just continuous improvement on the direction set for the theme. *ubuntu-theme-tropic|dash|peace* etc: messages specific to the teams working on those themes. * ubuntu-art-discuss*: general chatter related to artwork in ubuntu, user submissions, new ideas, completely new theme suggestions etc. Any other ideas? Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art pgp8JKFpQAOpC.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Fwd: Human theme benchmarked
I decided to forward this pretty informing post I got on ubuntu-devel this morning, Manu actually made a torture test for GTK themes and Engines, and the results are pretty surprising. If you are concerned about the speed of our Ubuntulooks engine, you might wanna check it out. I am also trying to get him to test out Tropic; which uses the Murrine engine, as Murrine is claimed to be the fastest Cairo based GTK engine ever. Viper550 Original Message Subject:Human theme benchmarked Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:41:41 +0200 From: Manu Cornet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all! I have been coding a small torture application for GTK themes [1], which mainly does two things: 1) crash test the engine by calling all the GTK paint functions with unsual parameters and 2) measure the time the theme takes to create/map/expose/resize/destroy widgets (with help from Federico's widget profiler's infrastructure). While this was mainly made for the OLPC theme (work in progress), I thought you might be interested by how the Human theme performs with this benchmark. There aren't any real surprises, but you might find this report useful anyway. The full report is available as a spreadsheet [2]. Before writing a short analysis, a few disclaimers: * I tried my best to make the testing conditions as stable as possible: same computer (of course), same programs running in the background, tests performed within a small time window, etc. * The different time measures correspond to the few important events in a widget's life: create, map, expose, destroy. The expose with resize corresponds to resizing the widget a lot of times (from a very small size to a very big size) and measuring the expose time for each size. * Each cell of the document is an amount of time (in seconds) averaged from about 80 iterations of the same event, on the same type of widget. * Absolute time values aren't that useful, but ratios are more interesting. Okay, so a few observations: * Create: pretty much the same for all themes, within each type of widget (ratios ~ 1). * Mapping a widget is always a bit slower for Human than for Clearlooks (average ratio of 1.37, all values being close to this average). * Destroy is always slightly (about 30 %) faster on Human than on Clearlooks, but still slower than HighContrast. Destroy time are pretty much the same between OLPC and Human. * Expose is between 2 and 3 times slower with Human than with Clearlooks, and also slower than the OLPC theme. * Expose with resize is the most CPU-consuming task, and therefore probably yields the most significant results. Human is twice slower than Clearlooks (but still 35 times faster than OLPC -- OLPC definitely has a problem with resizing right now). Here, the details are interesting: Human is just a little slower than Clearlooks on most widget types (1.1 or 1.2 ratios), but much slower on some particular ones: GtkProgressBar (5.5 times slower), GtkButton (5.5 as well), GtkNotebook (2). I'm not very familiar with the Human theme's code, but these appear to be the widgets that differ the most (visually -- glossy look) from Clearlooks, so it probably won't be a surprise that they take more time to draw (although 5 might be a big higher than expected). Hope this was useful :) Cheers, Manu [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/GTK_for_OLPC#GTK_theme.2Fengine_torturer_and_crash_tester [2] http://www.manucornet.net/pub/Themes_performance.ods -- ubuntu-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [REQUEST] Sound designers?
Updated theme http://progbox.co.uk/ubuntu7-1.mp3rhythmic and vocal :p-- Pete Savage - cbx33::silentk wiki.ubuntu.com/PeteSavage -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Suggestions for polishing the Human GTK theme
Hello artists, Following up on a recent request by Chuck Huber and ongoing collaboration with Troy, I've added a new page to the Wiki for sharing ideas and comments regarding the polishing of the Human GTK theme for Edgy. The page is rather empty at the moment, but I'm counting on your expertise to fill in the gaps. What we need is ideas for making the Dapper GTK theme better and look more polished and in line with the artwork we're doing for Edgy. Some ideas that we'll consider are fully rounded window borders and changing around a few colors. Besides those, I'm sure there's plenty of room for other design improvements and I'm looking forward to hear from you all. If you have a suggestion, please take the time to create a small picture visualizing your thoughts and add it to the following Wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/PolishHumanGTKTheme/Incoming The current deadline for submissions is set at the 10th of August, which leaves a bit more than a week. I think that's a reasonable amount of time to get your submissions in. Thanks a lot for your time and let's get the ideas flowing. With kind regards, Frank Schoep -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [REQUEST] Sound designers?
Pretty charming, actually. :) What equipment are you using? It still sounds a bit synthetic. :)2006/8/2, Peter Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Updated theme http://progbox.co.uk/ubuntu7-1.mp3rhythmic and vocal :p-- Pete Savage - cbx33::silentk wiki.ubuntu.com/PeteSavage --ubuntu-art mailing listubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [REQUEST] Sound designers?
On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:39 PM, Peter Savage wrote: Ok, I've been playing around with this theme for the afternoon, still not 100% happy with it, but wondered if this was a neat idea? Listen to it before continuing to read else it'll spoil it :p http://progbox.co.uk/ubuntu7-X-fade.mp3 I've cross faded a Lo-Fi version into a Hi-Fi version. It's just a test but it works really well in my mind, and my thinking behind it would be that as users are loading ubuntu, they are moving into an environment that heightens their senses :p Transitioning into a better environment. Opening their eyes :p It kind of works, but wouldn't it be easier to use a bandpass filter instead of cross-fading different resolutions? This technique kind of reminds me of a lot of techno / trance tracks - they're all the same :-) - where a bandpass / highpass filter is used on the percussion to achieve a gradually intensifying sound. Could you try using a band- or highpass filter? I'd also suggest maybe adding a bit of reverb or delay to the breathy choir to make the transitions between intervals a bit less noticeable, another way to solve it might be to have the notes overlap. Thanks for taking the time to create sounds for Ubuntu, it's great to have you onboard. Sincerely, Frank -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestions for polishing the Human GTK theme
On Aug 2, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Frank Schoep wrote: Hello artists, Following up on a recent request by Chuck Huber and ongoing collaboration with Troy, I've added a new page to the Wiki for sharing ideas and comments regarding the polishing of the Human GTK theme for Edgy. The page is rather empty at the moment, but I'm counting on your expertise to fill in the gaps. Hi Frank. I've added my commentary to the page. Perhaps the rest can go in and say what they feel? I think that the theme is fine except for some minor things that we could consider changing. There is one major change that I would like to propose, but I will show this later once I get some screenshots out (I will add these to the wikipage as well). I would also like to stress the importance of accessibility to the designers. I personally think that at the very least, the title bar should have different colors, since it is just a little bit too bright at the moment. There has been made a bug report about it (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntulooks/+bug/37603). Well, off to the drawing table. Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Short progress update on Human theme direction
Hello artists, Just a quick note to let you know that although I've been making progress on choosing directions for Human I'm not ready yet to publish results. I think it will take another day to get everything ready if not a bit longer. I know you're all ready, set, and eager to get started, so I'm trying to get this done as soon as humanly possible. In the meantime, feel free to discuss the GTK theme on https:// wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/PolishHumanGTKTheme/Incoming, provide feedback to our recently joined sound engineer Peter Savage and of course talk about anything artwork related. In short: have a good time. Sincerely, Frank -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [REQUEST] Sound designers?
On 02/08/06, Chuck Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to say I'm impressed with the way these sounds are progressingso I hope very much to see your work continue.Probably I'm coming out of left field with this input so you certainlydon't want to give it much weight. ubuntu7-X-fade-1.mp3 is my favorite jingle so far but I think the choirpart may last a little too long and swallow the cricket sounds as theending approaches.I wonder if shortening the choir by a second or two towards the end would allow for the cricket sounds to be more prominentas they fade away all by themselves.Very organic, isn't it? gSure I can give that a shot. tbh it's my fav theme tooand gives a lot of leaway for creatign other sounds with crickets/jungle noises and drums for mail notification etc. I'll do that 6am tomorrow :p -- Pete Savage - cbx33::silentkwiki.ubuntu.com/PeteSavage -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] NVIDIA with GeForce FX 5200 256mb
please! after i install my GeForce and configure Xorg in Kubuntu Dapper, X starts and everything blows up. a BLACK SCREEN appear, and all devices like mouse, and keyboard stops working. what should i do?? -- Usando o revolucionário cliente de correio do Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] latest ubuntu title font
I know we were going to do some work on the Ubuntu title font. Did we ever finish that or is ttf-ubuntu-title 0.1-1 still current? Thanks, -- Chuck Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Fwd: Human theme benchmarked
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 13:50 -0400, Viper550 wrote: Chuck Huber wrote: I have also done some performance testing on many of the gtk themes and engines found in Dapper. One surprise was that non cairo clearlooks was a hair faster than the smooth based engines. snip https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Peace/PeaceGtkTheme Chuck Interesting finding, think you could test the Murrine engine as well? Viper550 Sure. I downloaded a deb with the Murine engine from gnomelooks and posted the results as gtkperf2.pdf at the link above. Though it seems faster for some reason it didn't beat Outdoors which also uses cairo. -- Chuck Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [REQUEST] Sound designers?
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 19:02 +0100, Peter Savage wrote: Can I ask do the sounds have the same deadline as the rest of ubuntu-art? If so, I need to start finalising the login sound so I can started creating logout, and all the other little soundsGot mail etc, of course that all hinges on if you guys think the sounds are good enough to be used in ubuntu ! While the creative development cycle is well suited for sound design, it assumes that the Ponder has been completed. Ponder is a very important step to develop design direction. While it would be nice to get a fresh logon and logout in for Edgy, it would seem more productive to establish a sound design guideline before proceeding well into any form of production. The scheduling breakdown on the wiki assumed development from the start of edgy. It would need to be adjusted accordingly, considering the immaturity of the sound design. Let's get a good selection of colours on the palette before we start painting. Try to focus on different textures and feels before worrying about any sort of refinement. Perhaps even offer samplings of existing media to build upon. It is _far_ too early to be worrying about subtle changes and effects. Get several different sets of broad strokes down, and we can adjust from there. In short -- keep it very loose and quick to get as much variety on the table. Sincerely, TJS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
