[ubuntu-art] Themers wanted for Long Term Vision in Launchpad
Hi all, I just made launchpad team and project sites for the Long Term Vision concept submission. Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Long_Term_Vision Launchpad Team:https://edge.launchpad.net/~long-term-vision-theme-team Launchpad Project:https://launchpad.net/long-term-vision I would like one or more (experienced) theme artists to collaborate in developing this concept. I am a linguist by trade and an artist by hobby, but have no skills in programming and/or theming. I am very flexible in terms of accepting new direction if I think something is a good idea, so anybody that is interested would have quite a bit of influence in the final look and feel of the product. Nothing in LTV is written in stone, not even if it is to be a light or dark theme. Even if you do not wish to contribute to the team directly, all are welcome to join the team just to take part in any polls we conduct. After all, the larger the sample, the closer to the general population when it comes to judging consumer taste. The group's list-serve email should be approved and up and running shortly. Also, if anyone looks at the project's Blueprints page and can recommend someone else to fill some needed roles, please do a guy a favor and pass the word! ;) Best, Brian Fleeger -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
I agree with the screensavers, half of them just fail -- Will Rogers - "I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts." -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
>Actually, I can look into removing some screensavers and stuff. I'll talk to >some people and see what the possiblities are. That's great! I have a theory that so many screensavers are included by default not because there is an army of ardent supporters advocating their inclusion, but because they are part of some upstream programs that nobody has thought to remove yet. Swapping them out for some more included wallpapers will really improve the user experience. The first act of personalization for most users is to change the wallpapers, and the first place most users go to do that is the included alternate wallpaper folder. Thanks, Brian - Original Message From: Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:31:34 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This? On Thursday 03 July 2008 03:16:33 Brian Fleeger wrote: > Salene -- Thanks, you are right to point out it is not art related. > > However, the two areas I point out have been the object of many legitimate > critiques in the past from many press reviews of Ubuntu and in many a > forum. I do not think I am the first person to notice this. From a design > perspective, sometimes what you leave out is more important than what you > include. > > > Ken -- you sit at many tables and wear many hats; is cleaning up excess > material something you could/would pass on to relevent parties? If this in > not within your range of authority, that is okay. My only intention is to > make Ubuntu a better end product. > Actually, I can look into removing some screensavers and stuff. I'll talk to some people and see what the possiblities are. Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?
Well, if coding it is the issue, there's not really that much to do. I realize we can't put the buttons at the bottom, but a significant portion of that screenshot is doable. The colors scheme and the emerald theme are what I'm talking about. http://cookieofdoom.com/images/kith_ibex_working_sorta.png In that screenshot I've got Hardy running with a modified version of the Human-Murrine theme in place. I'm using a custom panel background (I don't really like it, but if anyone wants it, just let me know), the wallpaper from the wiki page, and an emerald theme I found on Gnome-look, and the orange oxygen refit 2 from Gnome-look. The only problem I have with it is that the buttons don't look quite right in Gmail (which is why I usually use human-clearlooks, I just wanted to show that murrine supported it as well). That's not just a mockup, it's what's currently running on my laptop. I think most of the theme is doable without too much work, which is good since we seem to be running out of time. The Artwork deadline is 2 months away, I believe. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Conn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If we go orange again, I think that Kith Intrepid is probably the best one >> out there. The only trouble is that it might be a bit loud for some people. >> I personally love it, and have been using a setup very close to it on my own >> computer. If something like this could be coded in such a way as to allow >> the user to change colors at will (effecting the panels, gtk theme, and >> emerald theme), I think this could really be the best option. I'd suggest >> using Murrine as it seems to be the most customizable (though I'm no >> expert), and it will support ARGB for future releases (or this one if it >> proves stable). > > > Kith Intrepid is an interesting concept, but that's the problem - it's a > concept. It has not developed beyond the mockup stage, and the actual > mockups focus more on what would be coded in Metacity rather than GTK! We > would need to see a sample application with actual widgets visible such as > "The Widget Factory" to really know the style and intent of "Kith". > > As for the buttons at the bottom of windows - it's not possible with GTK, > as that area is reserved in applications (GtkStatusbar). This is another > mockup that requires a major architectural change to GTK (and many > applications) - and while it may be worth persuing, it's not likely to > happen. > > Having said all that, I somewhat like the colour scheme :). > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- Cookieofdoom -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Being Loud
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:46 PM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If we go orange again, I think that Kith Intrepid is probably the best one > out there. The only trouble is that it might be a bit loud for some people. > I personally love it, and have been using a setup very close to it on my own > computer. After dapper was Edgy and I remember Mark's announcement describing it as a release that was going to be very cutting edge, both visually and in the technologies it incorporated. I personally applaud this attitude. I vote for being bold and toning things down as the next LTS approaches. >From http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy: Intrepid means: Audacious, invulnerable to fear or intimidation I can see the box now: WARNING: Not for the faint of heart! OPEN AT YOUR OWN RISK p.s. My current views could be due to the fact that I'm only two hours from a three day weekend, so maybe my opinion will be different on Monday. :-) -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If we go orange again, I think that Kith Intrepid is probably the best one > out there. The only trouble is that it might be a bit loud for some people. > I personally love it, and have been using a setup very close to it on my own > computer. If something like this could be coded in such a way as to allow > the user to change colors at will (effecting the panels, gtk theme, and > emerald theme), I think this could really be the best option. I'd suggest > using Murrine as it seems to be the most customizable (though I'm no > expert), and it will support ARGB for future releases (or this one if it > proves stable). Kith Intrepid is an interesting concept, but that's the problem - it's a concept. It has not developed beyond the mockup stage, and the actual mockups focus more on what would be coded in Metacity rather than GTK! We would need to see a sample application with actual widgets visible such as "The Widget Factory" to really know the style and intent of "Kith". As for the buttons at the bottom of windows - it's not possible with GTK, as that area is reserved in applications (GtkStatusbar). This is another mockup that requires a major architectural change to GTK (and many applications) - and while it may be worth persuing, it's not likely to happen. Having said all that, I somewhat like the colour scheme :). -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?
If we go orange again, I think that Kith Intrepid is probably the best one out there. The only trouble is that it might be a bit loud for some people. I personally love it, and have been using a setup very close to it on my own computer. If something like this could be coded in such a way as to allow the user to change colors at will (effecting the panels, gtk theme, and emerald theme), I think this could really be the best option. I'd suggest using Murrine as it seems to be the most customizable (though I'm no expert), and it will support ARGB for future releases (or this one if it proves stable). I think the best thing about this is its originality. There is no other operating system that looks anything like this, but it's still extremely usable. My vote probably doesn't count for much, but I'd definitely like to give this a +1. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Vincent Moulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, my first post here :) > > I think this is definitely the kind of colors that would suit the ubuntu > desktop. > > Have you looked at Kith Intrepid? > ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kith_Intrepid ) > > It is in the same tones but looks more polished and modern; nothing has > been done except mockups, but the work on the gtk/metacity(emerald?) > theme is about to begin in a week or two. > > > -- > nilux > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- CookieofDoom -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?
I love that ibex wallpaper! Nice lines. -- Christina On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Vincent Moulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, my first post here :) > > I think this is definitely the kind of colors that would suit the ubuntu > desktop. > > Have you looked at Kith Intrepid? > ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kith_Intrepid ) > > It is in the same tones but looks more polished and modern; nothing has > been done except mockups, but the work on the gtk/metacity(emerald?) > theme is about to begin in a week or two. > > > -- > nilux > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Vote for new functionality at www.hackontest.org
Hi all, This just in from the inkscape development team: A 24-hour contest to program new functionality into an opensource program? => www.hackontest.org Inkscape has registered for participation in Hackontest.org! http://www.hackontest.org/index.php?action=Root-projectDetail(97) This means we need your votes to find out which new functionality you'd like to see us code as quick as we can. Also, we need a lot of votes just to let the Hackontest organization know Inkscape makes you happy ;-) -- Kenneth -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Whats Up with This?
Hi everyone, my first post here :) I think this is definitely the kind of colors that would suit the ubuntu desktop. Have you looked at Kith Intrepid? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kith_Intrepid ) It is in the same tones but looks more polished and modern; nothing has been done except mockups, but the work on the gtk/metacity(emerald?) theme is about to begin in a week or two. -- nilux -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Suggestion for more wallpapers -- Re: Whats Up with This?
On Thursday 03 July 2008 03:16:33 Brian Fleeger wrote: > Salene -- Thanks, you are right to point out it is not art related. > > However, the two areas I point out have been the object of many legitimate > critiques in the past from many press reviews of Ubuntu and in many a > forum. I do not think I am the first person to notice this. From a design > perspective, sometimes what you leave out is more important than what you > include. > > > Ken -- you sit at many tables and wear many hats; is cleaning up excess > material something you could/would pass on to relevent parties? If this in > not within your range of authority, that is okay. My only intention is to > make Ubuntu a better end product. > Actually, I can look into removing some screensavers and stuff. I'll talk to some people and see what the possiblities are. Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Need gtkrc help. Panel effect for Studio theme.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all. I'm tinkering with the Feisty Studio theme. Thinking of bringing > it back with a facelift. I need help getting a look though. Hey Cory, I assume you've tried editing the same styles that you're applying to the panel elements to get the background to also draw button backgrounds that will blend in seamlessly? I don't think this is a very nice answer, but I think it could be kludged with the pixmap engine if you were really keen. (i.e just make the look for inactive buttons on the panel the same as the panel background, + some trickery to make it look 'right' - potentially you open a 'scaling' can of worms here - I don't know - sorry) By the looks of things, this theme does that (look at the end of the email. in an addendum effraie noted that the gtkrc was from the Linsta theme.) http://osdir.com/ml/linux.ubuntu.artwork/2006-10/msg00049.html Two questions: 1. If you drag those panels on to the side of the screen, how does the image respond? When I last tried this, if you had applied the image to the panel using the panel confuiguration UI then putting the panel side on broke it (eg it didn't rotate it) - which would make using this as a technique less desirable... 2. How do you currently theme the panel - like https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-September/003203.html ? I still think there's a strong argument that a panel image should be able to be 'suggested' in a theme just like a background or font can be (http://orford.org/gtk/#fonts). I don't know why I never got around to submitting it as a feature request - I guess I was expecting some discussion about it when I suggested it back then, or forgot :S What do you think? Hope that isn't just a pile of stuff you already know - I am aware it might well be :) Who -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art