Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. (naming closed)

[Ken Vermette]

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Human 2" How generically Hollywood. :P
>
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I personally prefer "Orange-White Supericons + PRO (Ultimate Bluescreen
Edition)". aka O.W.Si.P (UBE)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. (naming closed)

[Cory K.]

"Human 2" How generically Hollywood. :P

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Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. (naming closed)

[Vadim Peretokin]

Human 2 is already taken by a relatively nice theme (with awesome buttons):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_GTK_proposal
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Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. (naming closed)

[Ken Vermette]

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> tonic wrote:
> > I guess Breathe is the codename for development ;). The name can
> > always change for release. I must admit my flatmate immediately
> > started making jokes about Ubuntu breath when he saw the name of the
> > neat new icons.
>
> Oh well. We can make a mockery of anything. ;)
>
> Name stays until an overwhelmingly better choice comes along. I've had
> the question open for a good couple of days and got no *real* consensus.
>
> One can't stagnate on little things like a name for an icon set. The
> icons are what matter.
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I'll -breathe- a sign of relief when the name is figured out!

... That was terrible, I should apologize for that...

Anywho, the name really isn't important as actual progress. The icon set
could be named "Human 2" or "Orange-White Supericons + PRO (Ultimate
Bluescreen Edition)"; But hey, when the icon set is near completion, they
might inspire a name of their own.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. (naming closed)

[Cory K.]

tonic wrote:
> I guess Breathe is the codename for development ;). The name can
> always change for release. I must admit my flatmate immediately
> started making jokes about Ubuntu breath when he saw the name of the
> neat new icons.

Oh well. We can make a mockery of anything. ;)

Name stays until an overwhelmingly better choice comes along. I've had
the question open for a good couple of days and got no *real* consensus.

One can't stagnate on little things like a name for an icon set. The
icons are what matter.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. > (naming)

[tonic]

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 September 2008 15:01:54 Dooboo Ya wrote:
> >
>  No one seems to have taken heed: Howabout Air or Atmoshpere? Breathe
>  just sounds a little disgusting.
> 
> >>> Haha, disgusting? I have to say I disagree.  There's nothing more
> 'human'
> >>> than the concept of breathing.  We can all relate to concepts like 'the
> >>> breath of life' and a 'breath of fresh air'.
> >>>
> >>> IMHO it's a perfect name :)
> >>>
> >> We can also relate to concepts like "morning breath," "being breathed on
> by
> >> some nasty guy on the subway," and "don't panic, just breathe." That
> name
> >> is just begging to be mocked.
> >>
> >
> > I found Umoya interesting because it does not mean anything specific to
> me but
> > sounds kinda like ubuntu and is just neat :-)
>
> Oh well, too bad, so sad, move on. ;)


I guess Breathe is the codename for development ;). The name can always
change for release. I must admit my flatmate immediately started making
jokes about Ubuntu breath when he saw the name of the neat new icons.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 15

[Brittany Dunlap]

I personally like the name 'breathe'.  It's calming and enchanting.

Brittany

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:00 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:02:41 -0500
> From: Isaiah Heyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 13
> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 19:16 -0400, Barrio Brathwaite wrote:
> > I would really love Ubuntu 8.10 to have a really new look and to also
> > be cool and user friendly,I felll in love with Ubuntu and I just want
> > to it to have a great change for its new release.I will post my work.
> >
> > Barriod Music Production
> >
>
> Gah! You quoted all of the last issue of the mailing list!
>
> @booth: I agree breathe does sound a little weird and gross
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe Icon Set -Aesthetic/Technical Guidelines-

[Kenneth Wimer]

On Thursday 04 September 2008 17:44:54 Thorsten Wilms wrote:

> How to manage pixel-based optimisations applied on top of SVG exports?

You make SVGs for every smaller size needed. Some icons only need one smaller 
svg to render all the small pngs, some need an svg for every size, it just 
depends on the lines and such.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe Icon Set -Aesthetic/Technical Guidelines-

[Cory K.]

Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 10:59 -0400, Cory K. wrote:
>   
>> So while the general idea is to combine Human and Oxygen what other
>> things should we add? The finer details.
>>
>> Just my thoughts:
>>
>> -Aesthetic
>>
>> * Outline around icons smaller than X? Are outlines even needed?
>> * Palette? Where's the Human one?
>> 
>
> I think slight outlines are a good thing if you use them to simulate
> ambient lighting on the outer edges of the icon. They don't have to be
> dark and can still help to make the icon better stand on various
> backgrounds (I hope, at least :)
>   

I'm in favor of a slight outline only at small sizes. Under 24px?

> Regarding palette, I will repeat that we should try to just define
> "recommended/anticipated" background colours (desktop bg, toolbars ...).
> If an implicit palette doesn't come from this automatically, we can
> still define an explicit one, now based on actual work instead of being
> pulled out of thin air in advance.
> While some icons like the folders can be used to bring in strong Ubuntu
> colours, most of the colouring should prioritise icon recognition ("what
> is that thing"?).
>   

Agreed.

> In the last Community Council meeting, Mark Shuttleworth said, starting
> 22:09:
>
> in terms of audience, i think we have to aim for young professionals who
> are web-savvy
> ...
> so, the only reason i focused on young web-savvy professionals is they
> will be the standard-bearers for taking ubuntu to a wider audience
> and they are probably attracted to particular ideas in design
> like the iphone used web 2.0 ideas
>   

In general, I think we should stay away from the "Web2.0" shine effect".
It's *SO* overused an gets lost fast in smaller sizes.

> (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/02/%23ubuntu-meeting.html)
>
> While I don't know what all that means for icons, I think we should not
> just skip it. Just copying Apple's icons can't be it, of course.
>
>
> I think we should aim for some kind of hyper-realism. With a very
> clearly defined lighting and perspective. Not straight photo-realism, as
> in some cases we might want to optimise for strong shapes and should not
> flood everything with details.
>
> In light of Ubuntu's spirit, the icons should smile at the user, but
> cannot look like clowns.
>
> Most important icons should look like something you can and want to
> touch ;)
>   
>> * All source icons will be in .SVG form created at the size they are
>>   meant to be used.
>> * Sizes = 16px, 22px, 24px, 32px, 48px and scalable.
>> * 16-48px will be rendered in the built package with .svg used for
>>   anything larger.
>> 
>
> How to manage pixel-based optimisations applied on top of SVG exports?
>   

I'm not really aware of any examples of where they would be needed.
There might be a corner-case but generally if we draw it in SVG at the
appropriate size the PNG export should be just enough.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe Icon Set -Aesthetic/Technical Guidelines-

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 10:59 -0400, Cory K. wrote:
> So while the general idea is to combine Human and Oxygen what other
> things should we add? The finer details.
> 
> Just my thoughts:
> 
> -Aesthetic
> 
> * Outline around icons smaller than X? Are outlines even needed?
> * Palette? Where's the Human one?

I think slight outlines are a good thing if you use them to simulate
ambient lighting on the outer edges of the icon. They don't have to be
dark and can still help to make the icon better stand on various
backgrounds (I hope, at least :)

Regarding palette, I will repeat that we should try to just define
"recommended/anticipated" background colours (desktop bg, toolbars ...).
If an implicit palette doesn't come from this automatically, we can
still define an explicit one, now based on actual work instead of being
pulled out of thin air in advance.

While some icons like the folders can be used to bring in strong Ubuntu
colours, most of the colouring should prioritise icon recognition ("what
is that thing"?).

In the last Community Council meeting, Mark Shuttleworth said, starting
22:09:

in terms of audience, i think we have to aim for young professionals who
are web-savvy
...
so, the only reason i focused on young web-savvy professionals is they
will be the standard-bearers for taking ubuntu to a wider audience
and they are probably attracted to particular ideas in design
like the iphone used web 2.0 ideas

(http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/02/%23ubuntu-meeting.html)

While I don't know what all that means for icons, I think we should not
just skip it. Just copying Apple's icons can't be it, of course.


I think we should aim for some kind of hyper-realism. With a very
clearly defined lighting and perspective. Not straight photo-realism, as
in some cases we might want to optimise for strong shapes and should not
flood everything with details.

In light of Ubuntu's spirit, the icons should smile at the user, but
cannot look like clowns.

Most important icons should look like something you can and want to
touch ;)


> * All source icons will be in .SVG form created at the size they are
>   meant to be used.
> * Sizes = 16px, 22px, 24px, 32px, 48px and scalable.
> * 16-48px will be rendered in the built package with .svg used for
>   anything larger.

How to manage pixel-based optimisations applied on top of SVG exports?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe Icon Set -Aesthetic/Technical Guidelines-

[Kenneth Wimer]

On Thursday 04 September 2008 16:59:59 Cory K. wrote:
> So while the general idea is to combine Human and Oxygen what other
> things should we add? The finer details.
>
> Just my thoughts:
>
> -Aesthetic
>
> * Outline around icons smaller than X? Are outlines even needed?

The small oxygen icons do have a slight outline, but not as prominent as Tango

> * Palette? Where's the Human one?

There is no official Human palette but somewhere the is one with some picked 
colors. We could do better than that though.

> -Technical
>
> * All source icons will be in .SVG form created at the size they are
>   meant to be used.
> * Sizes = 16px, 22px, 24px, 32px, 48px and scalable.
> * 16-48px will be rendered in the built package with .svg used for
>   anything larger.
>
>
> I'm sure there's lots more to consider. Just getting the ball rolling.
>
> Ill post these again for some good thoughts.
>
> * http://psdtuts.com/articles/7-principles-of-effective-icon-design
> *
> http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/04/04/mac-os-x-leopard-designers-guide
>-to-icons
>
>
> -Cory K.

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[ubuntu-art] Breathe Icon Set -Aesthetic/Technical Guidelines-

[Cory K.]

So while the general idea is to combine Human and Oxygen what other
things should we add? The finer details.

Just my thoughts:

-Aesthetic

* Outline around icons smaller than X? Are outlines even needed?
* Palette? Where's the Human one?

-Technical

* All source icons will be in .SVG form created at the size they are
  meant to be used.
* Sizes = 16px, 22px, 24px, 32px, 48px and scalable.
* 16-48px will be rendered in the built package with .svg used for
  anything larger.


I'm sure there's lots more to consider. Just getting the ball rolling.

Ill post these again for some good thoughts.

* http://psdtuts.com/articles/7-principles-of-effective-icon-design
* 
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/04/04/mac-os-x-leopard-designers-guide-to-icons


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release

[Kenneth Wimer]

On Thursday 04 September 2008 15:19:38 Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 September 2008 14:15:50 Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 04 September 2008 13:46:13 Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> > > > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been
> > > > > trying
> >
> > to
> >
> > > > > think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean
> > > > > is,
> > > >
> > > > every
> > > >
> > > > > release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. I
> > > > > think something needs to change so that these mockups have a chance
> >
> > of
> >
> > > > > getting worked on. If not this, i think something should be done
> > > > > differently to address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My
> > > > > idea is simply that
> > > >
> > > > after
> > > >
> > > > > every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next LTS
> > > > > release, giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable?
> >
> > Would
> >
> > > > > this work?
> > > >
> > > > Shortly before 8.04 (Hardy Heron) it was decided that the LTS release
> >
> > is
> >
> > > > the
> > > > final release in an artwork cycle, exactly as you suggest.
> > >
> > > Hm, are these themes chosen for inclusion in intrepid? Because i was
> > > thinking the problem may have been that the themes didn't have enough
> >
> > time
> >
> > > to get worked on. This is why i thought choosing the theme for the next> 
> > >chive>) so that everyone can test
> > > > them without having to compile anything themselves. Our next step is
> > > > to include these in the next Intrepid Ibex alpha so keep any eye out
> > > > for them there if you aren't interested or don't have the time to
> > > > check
> >
> > them
> >
> > > > out via the PPA I mentioned.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Kenneth Wimer
> >
> > LTS
> >
> > > at the current LTS might be a better idea.
> >
> > Yes, these themes will be included in Intrepid. An LTS release has to be
> > stable and is, as the name implies, supported over a long term and
> > therefor is the wrong place to include new, untested themes.
>
> Exactly the reason i thought choosing themes to work on for the next LTS at
> the LTS before would be a good idea. This way they can be worked on for a
> long time and with focus on the few themes that are chosen. Am i
> misunderstanding you? Is this already what is done?

Almost. They are picked after the LTS, once they have been proposed and made 
it to a level in which it actualy works and has some respose from users so we 
have an idea about the popularity.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release

[Danny Piccirillo]

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 04 September 2008 14:15:50 Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thursday 04 September 2008 13:46:13 Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been trying
> to
> > > > think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean is,
> > >
> > > every
> > >
> > > > release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. I
> > > > think something needs to change so that these mockups have a chance
> of
> > > > getting worked on. If not this, i think something should be done
> > > > differently to address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My idea
> > > > is simply that
> > >
> > > after
> > >
> > > > every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next LTS
> > > > release, giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable?
> Would
> > > > this work?
> > >
> > > Shortly before 8.04 (Hardy Heron) it was decided that the LTS release
> is
> > > the
> > > final release in an artwork cycle, exactly as you suggest.
> >
> > Hm, are these themes chosen for inclusion in intrepid? Because i was
> > thinking the problem may have been that the themes didn't have enough
> time
> > to get worked on. This is why i thought choosing the theme for the next
> LTS
> > at the current LTS might be a better idea.
>
> Yes, these themes will be included in Intrepid. An LTS release has to be
> stable and is, as the name implies, supported over a long term and therefor
> is the wrong place to include new, untested themes.


Exactly the reason i thought choosing themes to work on for the next LTS at
the LTS before would be a good idea. This way they can be worked on for a
long time and with focus on the few themes that are chosen. Am i
misunderstanding you? Is this already what is done?

> > For 8.10 (Intrepid
> > > Ibex) we have been reviewing new themes (the dark theme, and so far 3
> > > community themes). We have picked these themes for inclusion due to
> their
> > > quality and popularity. Although we will not vote on the matter the
> > > interests
> > > of users are definitely taken into account. I've set up a PPA with the
> > > themes
> > > in question
>
> > > (https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive
>  > >chive>) so that everyone can test
> > > them without having to compile anything themselves. Our next step is to
> > > include these in the next Intrepid Ibex alpha so keep any eye out for
> > > them there if you aren't interested or don't have the time to check
> them
> > > out via the PPA I mentioned.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kenneth Wimer
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. > (naming)

[Cory K.]

Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> On Thursday 04 September 2008 15:01:54 Dooboo Ya wrote:
>   
 No one seems to have taken heed: Howabout Air or Atmoshpere? Breathe
 just sounds a little disgusting.
 
>>> Haha, disgusting? I have to say I disagree.  There's nothing more 'human'
>>> than the concept of breathing.  We can all relate to concepts like 'the
>>> breath of life' and a 'breath of fresh air'.
>>>
>>> IMHO it's a perfect name :)
>>>   
>> We can also relate to concepts like "morning breath," "being breathed on by
>> some nasty guy on the subway," and "don't panic, just breathe." That name
>> is just begging to be mocked.
>> 
>
> I found Umoya interesting because it does not mean anything specific to me 
> but 
> sounds kinda like ubuntu and is just neat :-)

Oh well, too bad, so sad, move on. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. > (naming)

[Kenneth Wimer]

On Thursday 04 September 2008 15:01:54 Dooboo Ya wrote:
> > > No one seems to have taken heed: Howabout Air or Atmoshpere? Breathe
> > > just sounds a little disgusting.
> >
> > Haha, disgusting? I have to say I disagree.  There's nothing more 'human'
> > than the concept of breathing.  We can all relate to concepts like 'the
> > breath of life' and a 'breath of fresh air'.
> >
> > IMHO it's a perfect name :)
>
> We can also relate to concepts like "morning breath," "being breathed on by
> some nasty guy on the subway," and "don't panic, just breathe." That name
> is just begging to be mocked.

I found Umoya interesting because it does not mean anything specific to me but 
sounds kinda like ubuntu and is just neat :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. > (naming)

[Dooboo Ya]

>
> > No one seems to have taken heed: Howabout Air or Atmoshpere? Breathe just
> > sounds a little disgusting.
> >
>
> Haha, disgusting? I have to say I disagree.  There's nothing more 'human'
> than the concept of breathing.  We can all relate to concepts like 'the
> breath of life' and a 'breath of fresh air'.
>
> IMHO it's a perfect name :)


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some nasty guy on the subway," and "don't panic, just breathe." That name is
just begging to be mocked.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release

[Kenneth Wimer]

On Thursday 04 September 2008 14:15:50 Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 September 2008 13:46:13 Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been trying to
> > > think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean is,
> >
> > every
> >
> > > release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. I
> > > think something needs to change so that these mockups have a chance of
> > > getting worked on. If not this, i think something should be done
> > > differently to address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My idea
> > > is simply that
> >
> > after
> >
> > > every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next LTS
> > > release, giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable? Would
> > > this work?
> >
> > Shortly before 8.04 (Hardy Heron) it was decided that the LTS release is
> > the
> > final release in an artwork cycle, exactly as you suggest.
>
> Hm, are these themes chosen for inclusion in intrepid? Because i was
> thinking the problem may have been that the themes didn't have enough time
> to get worked on. This is why i thought choosing the theme for the next LTS
> at the current LTS might be a better idea.

Yes, these themes will be included in Intrepid. An LTS release has to be 
stable and is, as the name implies, supported over a long term and therefor 
is the wrong place to include new, untested themes.

> > For 8.10 (Intrepid
> > Ibex) we have been reviewing new themes (the dark theme, and so far 3
> > community themes). We have picked these themes for inclusion due to their
> > quality and popularity. Although we will not vote on the matter the
> > interests
> > of users are definitely taken into account. I've set up a PPA with the
> > themes
> > in question
> > (https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive >chive>) so that everyone can test
> > them without having to compile anything themselves. Our next step is to
> > include these in the next Intrepid Ibex alpha so keep any eye out for
> > them there if you aren't interested or don't have the time to check them
> > out via the PPA I mentioned.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kenneth Wimer



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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release

[Danny Piccirillo]

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 04 September 2008 13:46:13 Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been trying to
> > think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean is,
> every
> > release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. I think
> > something needs to change so that these mockups have a chance of getting
> > worked on. If not this, i think something should be done differently to
> > address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My idea is simply that
> after
> > every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next LTS
> > release, giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable? Would
> > this work?
>
> Shortly before 8.04 (Hardy Heron) it was decided that the LTS release is
> the
> final release in an artwork cycle, exactly as you suggest.


Hm, are these themes chosen for inclusion in intrepid? Because i was
thinking the problem may have been that the themes didn't have enough time
to get worked on. This is why i thought choosing the theme for the next LTS
at the current LTS might be a better idea.


> For 8.10 (Intrepid
> Ibex) we have been reviewing new themes (the dark theme, and so far 3
> community themes). We have picked these themes for inclusion due to their
> quality and popularity. Although we will not vote on the matter the
> interests
> of users are definitely taken into account. I've set up a PPA with the
> themes
> in question 
> (https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive)
> so that everyone can test
> them without having to compile anything themselves. Our next step is to
> include these in the next Intrepid Ibex alpha so keep any eye out for them
> there if you aren't interested or don't have the time to check them out via
> the PPA I mentioned.
>
> Thanks,
> Kenneth Wimer
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 07:46 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote:

> I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been trying
> to think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean
> is, every release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of
> it. I think something needs to change so that these mockups have a
> chance of getting worked on. If not this, i think something should be
> done differently to address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My
> idea is simply that after every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to
> work on for the next LTS release, giving plenty of time to work on it.
> Is this reasonable? Would this work?

There have been many discussions in varying places, including where it
belongs, the ubuntu-art mailing list.

There have been various efforts over the years and there are new ones in
planning stages.

While I'm sure you have the best intentions, posting on several mailing
lists at once is not a good idea, as people subscribed to some/all of
the list with see lots of duplicated mails, while people that are not on
all lists will sooner or later not get to see all relevant posts.

For this reason, I like would ask everyone to not reply, except on the
artwork list. (You can argue I shouldn't have either ... well, fine :)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release

[Kenneth Wimer]

On Thursday 04 September 2008 13:46:13 Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been trying to
> think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean is, every
> release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. I think
> something needs to change so that these mockups have a chance of getting
> worked on. If not this, i think something should be done differently to
> address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My idea is simply that after
> every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next LTS
> release, giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable? Would
> this work?

Shortly before 8.04 (Hardy Heron) it was decided that the LTS release is the 
final release in an artwork cycle, exactly as you suggest. For 8.10 (Intrepid 
Ibex) we have been reviewing new themes (the dark theme, and so far 3 
community themes). We have picked these themes for inclusion due to their 
quality and popularity. Although we will not vote on the matter the interests 
of users are definitely taken into account. I've set up a PPA with the themes 
in question (https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive) so that everyone can test 
them without having to compile anything themselves. Our next step is to 
include these in the next Intrepid Ibex alpha so keep any eye out for them 
there if you aren't interested or don't have the time to check them out via 
the PPA I mentioned.

Thanks,
Kenneth Wimer

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Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 14

[Anton Kerezov]

В 08:31 +0100 на 04.09.2008 (чт), Laurence Diver написа:



> Haha, disgusting? I have to say I disagree.  There's nothing more
> 'human' than the concept of breathing.  We can all relate to concepts
> like 'the breath of life' and a 'breath of fresh air'.
> 
> IMHO it's a perfect name :)
> 
> (BTW sorry if this top-posts, I've never emailed the list before) 

There's nothing wrong with breath but it is hard to pronounce and
remember by people who's native language is not English (and haven't
studied it for 5 to 7 years). So I think "Umoya" is perfect for name of
the new Ubuntu iconset. 

Anton



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[ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release

[Danny Piccirillo]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been trying to
think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean is, every
release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. I think
something needs to change so that these mockups have a chance of getting
worked on. If not this, i think something should be done differently to
address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My idea is simply that after
every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next LTS release,
giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable? Would this work?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 14

[Laurence Diver]

Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:17:20 -0400
> From: "Joshua Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu.
>(naming)
> To: "Discussion on Ubuntu artwork" 
> Message-ID:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> No one seems to have taken heed: Howabout Air or Atmoshpere? Breathe just
> sounds a little disgusting.
>

Haha, disgusting? I have to say I disagree.  There's nothing more 'human'
than the concept of breathing.  We can all relate to concepts like 'the
breath of life' and a 'breath of fresh air'.

IMHO it's a perfect name :)

(BTW sorry if this top-posts, I've never emailed the list before)
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