Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread Martin Owens
Hey David,

Thanks for getting us an email about your needs. Does the TDF have a set
of requirements and/or briefs to work from and a place to upload
contributions?

How wide would you like participation? We could throw this further than
just this Ubuntu group if you like.

Martin,

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 15:41 +0800, David Nelson wrote:
 I'm a member of the LibreOffice community. LibreOffice (LibO) is the
 office suite project of The Document Foundation (TDF), the
 community-driven organization that recently forked from the
 Oracle-managed OpenOffice.org project. 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Martin, :-)

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 16:00, Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for getting us an email about your needs. Does the TDF have a set
 of requirements and/or briefs to work from and a place to upload
 contributions?

 How wide would you like participation? We could throw this further than
 just this Ubuntu group if you like.

About all we've got right now can be seen at the pages below. We need
to make a lot of progress quickly. But please do feel free to sign up
and post to the marketing mailing list, especially. Then maybe you'd
like to take a look at the pages below and jump right in with an
introduction of yourself (you might care to mention this thread). You
could also have a look at the Nabble archive, beforehand, where you'll
see some good threads to write to.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas

It would definitely be great if you can spread the word further than
this Ubuntu group. I didn't want to post to too many Ubuntu lists
because I didn't want to be seen as spamming. But the more people we
can reach, the better.

OT: By the way, I'm a full-time Ubuntu user myself. Just wanted to say
a big thanks for a great distro. I love you guys' artwork. :-)

David Nelson

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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Thorsten, :-)

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 17:22, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding
 http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/few-days-ago-somebody-wrote-on.html
 http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/fontastic-how-libreoffice-got-its-font.html
 give me the impression that a logo (and color scheme) has been selected
 and is on the way of being established!?

The situation is that some initial provisional choices have been made,
with the idea that those choices are up for possible change in the
near future. That notably apples to the color scheme. I think the logo
is still open to influence if interesting alternatives are proposed.
In particular, there is a wide opening for a MASCOT cum LOGO.

I'm pretty sure I'm not contradicting TDF intentions if I say that
*nothing* is set in stone yet, especially as the first LibreOffice
release has not shipped. Let meritocracy and creativity rule would
still be the rule of thumb.

One thing that is certain is that there is going to be a lot of work
upcoming on artwork for the distrib and for branding in the coming
months, and contributors are definitely needed for that.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread Boudhayan Gupta
Hi,

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 17:38 +0800, David Nelson wrote:

 I'm pretty sure I'm not contradicting TDF intentions if I say that
 *nothing* is set in stone yet, especially as the first LibreOffice
 release has not shipped. Let meritocracy and creativity rule would
 still be the rule of thumb.
 

The very name LibreOffice suggests that the office suite gives a lot
more about being free rather than make sure it works. Of course we want
a free office suite, but it also has to able to be used to type a
letter, or create a expense report.

But OTOH, I've tried out the 3.3 Betas of LO, and they sure rock.

 One thing that is certain is that there is going to be a lot of work
 upcoming on artwork for the distrib and for branding in the coming
 months, and contributors are definitely needed for that.
 
 David Nelson
 



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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 15:41 +0800, David Nelson wrote:

 Notably, right now, we urgently need creative talent to help us design
 artwork for our websites. We need to develop a logo, and - hopefully -
 a MASCOT along the lines of Linux's Tux, to act as a living
 ambassador that achieves lasting recognition of our brand and products
 in people's minds.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding
http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/few-days-ago-somebody-wrote-on.html
http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/fontastic-how-libreoffice-got-its-font.html
give me the impression that a logo (and color scheme) has been selected
and is on the way of being established!?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Boudhayan, :-)

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:51, Boudhayan Gupta bg13@gmail.com wrote:
 The very name LibreOffice suggests that the office suite gives a lot
 more about being free rather than make sure it works. Of course we want
 a free office suite, but it also has to able to be used to type a
 letter, or create a expense report.

My personal experience is that it is a very high-quality product, and
the project is very active. Upcoming 3.3 is likely to be the last
version before big enhancements to the user interface. There's a lot
of exciting work in progress and planned, with lots of opportunity for
creativity and inventiveness... A great time to join the project as a
contributor. ;-)

 But OTOH, I've tried out the 3.3 Betas of LO, and they sure rock.

See what I mean? :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread Boudhayan Gupta
Hi David,

On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 19:07 +0800, David Nelson wrote:
 Hi Boudhayan, :-)
 
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 18:51, Boudhayan Gupta bg13@gmail.com wrote:
  The very name LibreOffice suggests that the office suite gives a lot
  more about being free rather than make sure it works. Of course we want
  a free office suite, but it also has to able to be used to type a
  letter, or create a expense report.
 
 My personal experience is that it is a very high-quality product, and
 the project is very active. Upcoming 3.3 is likely to be the last
 version before big enhancements to the user interface. There's a lot
 of exciting work in progress and planned, with lots of opportunity for
 creativity and inventiveness... A great time to join the project as a
 contributor. ;-)

What I'm commenting on, is the first impression that a new user gets.
Although you can't judge a book by it's cover, most software is judged
by the name and packaging artwork. Off the top of my head, a name like,
say, PowerOffice makes a powerful impression, ElegantOffice makes an
elegant impression, but LibreOffice conveys the image of a bunch of open
source ideologists who cares about nothing other than licensing

  But OTOH, I've tried out the 3.3 Betas of LO, and they sure rock.
 
 See what I mean? :-)

As I said, I had to make an effort to sideline my scepticism and
actually try it out, before seeing the goodness that it is.

That apart, the big enhancements to the user interface sounds
exciting, and the way that the project, or rather the foundation, has so
swiftly done so much make me want to be a part of the TDF community
ASAP :-)

Yours,
Boudhayan Gupta



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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Boudhayan, :-)

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:30, Boudhayan Gupta bg13@gmail.com wrote:
 That apart, the big enhancements to the user interface sounds
 exciting, and the way that the project, or rather the foundation, has so
 swiftly done so much make me want to be a part of the TDF community
 ASAP :-)

The user interface is up for major revision. There's a lot of
brain-storming going on right now. It will be great if there are lots
of creative minds contributing to the process. I'm certain that the
results are going to to be really good. Do jump in and join the
effort. :-)

David Nelson

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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread Vishnoo
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 15:41 +0800, David Nelson wrote:
 Hi, :-)
 
 I'm a member of the LibreOffice community. 
[...]
 Notably, right now, we urgently need creative talent to help us design
 artwork for our websites. We need to develop a logo, and - hopefully -
 a MASCOT along the lines of Linux's Tux, to act as a living
 ambassador that achieves lasting recognition of our brand and products
 in people's minds.
 
 But we also need talent to work on icon sets and other artwork on an
 ongoing basis.
 

Hi, 
Thanks for getting in touch, and hope we have some great contributions
from this list.

 A number of Linux distributions have announced their intention to ship
 LibreOffice with their future releases. We know that they frequently
 do re-branding work to integrate their chosen office suite in lines
 with their project's thinking.
 
 So we are keen to involve you in our project branding and development,
 so that we ship releases that better fit your needs.
 
 LibreOffice and The Document Foundation could also benefit from
 MENTORING and from close and ongoing involvement from established
 Linux projects, especially in these early days when we are developing
 our infrastructure and organization.

In Gnome, We have traditionally had a lot of problem with theming and
design of OpenOffice, other folks who would like to hear about and give
some feedback might be at:
Gnome Usability usabil...@gnome.org and GnomeArt list:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt

 
 Like you, we passionately value and believe in Free Open Source
 software (FOSS).
 
 We very much ask you to get involved in our project and influence our
 development. We seek your comments and advice and contributions. For
 this, below you will find a number of links as a starting point:
 
 LibreOffice marketing mailing list: marketing+subscr...@libreoffice.org
 

[As the mail sounds more of a call to join to the LibreOffice lists and
to spread the message]
 Blogs like http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/ and http://www.webupd8.org/
have more readers than this mailing list. 
[OMG!Ubuntu seems to have more readers of the two] 
Contacting them as well would probably get the message out louder.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Vish, :-)

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 23:29, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 In Gnome, We have traditionally had a lot of problem with theming and
 design of OpenOffice, other folks who would like to hear about and give
 some feedback might be at:
 Gnome Usability usabil...@gnome.org and GnomeArt list: 
 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt

I have bookmarked those and will be making contact there too. Thanks
for the tip. :-)

 [As the mail sounds more of a call to join to the LibreOffice lists and
 to spread the message]

It is. :-)

  Blogs like http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/ and http://www.webupd8.org/
 have more readers than this mailing list.
 [OMG!Ubuntu seems to have more readers of the two]
 Contacting them as well would probably get the message out louder.

Again, thanks for the heads-up, Vishnoo. I'll be taking your advice.

If anyone else has good tips, I'd love to hear them. ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring

2010-11-10 Thread Ivanka Majic

Hi David,

I would be very happy to post something on my blog and on 
design.canonical.com.


One thing I am trying out with the Ubuntu Artwork community is sending 
out design briefs. The Ubuntu community in general manages work items as 
bugs, if you write briefs for the items you need done it might help get 
much more directed contributions. I would suggest that this approach 
will work alongside a general call for contributions. If you would like 
to chat about it you can find me on IRC in #ayatana or #ubuntu-artwork 
on freenode. My nick is ivanka.


What do you think?

Ivanka

On 10/11/10 07:41, David Nelson wrote:

Hi, :-)

I'm a member of the LibreOffice community. LibreOffice (LibO) is the
office suite project of The Document Foundation (TDF), the
community-driven organization that recently forked from the
Oracle-managed OpenOffice.org project.

TDF/LibO is currently working on its branding and on its artwork for
the LibreOffice distribution. We are currently very short of GRAPHIC
ARTISTS.

Notably, right now, we urgently need creative talent to help us design
artwork for our websites. We need to develop a logo, and - hopefully -
a MASCOT along the lines of Linux's Tux, to act as a living
ambassador that achieves lasting recognition of our brand and products
in people's minds.

But we also need talent to work on icon sets and other artwork on an
ongoing basis.

A number of Linux distributions have announced their intention to ship
LibreOffice with their future releases. We know that they frequently
do re-branding work to integrate their chosen office suite in lines
with their project's thinking.

So we are keen to involve you in our project branding and development,
so that we ship releases that better fit your needs.

LibreOffice and The Document Foundation could also benefit from
MENTORING and from close and ongoing involvement from established
Linux projects, especially in these early days when we are developing
our infrastructure and organization.

Like you, we passionately value and believe in Free Open Source
software (FOSS).

We very much ask you to get involved in our project and influence our
development. We seek your comments and advice and contributions. For
this, below you will find a number of links as a starting point:

LibreOffice marketing mailing list: marketing+subscr...@libreoffice.org

The Document Foundation general discussions mailing list:
discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org

LibreOffice developers mailing list:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice

TDF steering committee discussions mailing list:
steering-discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org

LibreOffice user support mailing list: users+subscr...@libreoffice.org

Our Nabble gateway for easy mailing list browsing:
http://www.documentfoundation.org/nabble/

The Document Foundation contacts page:
http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/

Mail address distributing to all TDF press and media contacts:
i...@documentfoundation.org

LibreOffice dedicated IRC channel: #libreoffice at irc.freenode.net

TDF dedicated IRC channel: #documentfoundation at irc.freenode.net

Follow TDF via @docufoundation on Twitter: http://twitter.com/docufoundation

Follow TDF via @docufoundation on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/docufoundation

Visit the TDF website: http://www.documentfoundation.org

And, of course, if necessary, you can contact me, too, at the address
from which this mail was sent, or via this mailing list.

Thank you for your time reading this message. Thank you, also, for
your own valuable work in bringing the world Open Source software.

David Nelson




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