Re: Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp program.

2008-01-28 Thread pew_from_hobart
Hi Samps & Ubuntu-au list

On 28/01/2008, Samps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:30:57 pm pew_from_hobart wrote:
>
> > > Try 'hcitool scan' from a command-line
> > > (Alt+F2, enter 'gnome-terminal', hit [Enter], type 'hcitool scan',
> after
> > > having turned your phone and its Bluetooth function on)
> >
> > I did what you said eg command:
> > hcitool scan
> >
> > gives message:
> > No such device
> >


I *DO* Have a USB Bluetooth Dongle plugged into one of my USB ports. I
removed it the plugged it into another USB port.

This time I did not get the "No such device" message... instead I got
"Scanning ..." followed by another shell prompt.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hcitool scan
Scanning ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

The USB Bluetooth Dongle I am using does *NOT* have any switch/es on it. It
does however has a LED which blinks on/off at approx 3-4 second intervals.

> and yes my mobile phone was switched on with Tools / Connectivity /
> > Bluetooth / Mode / On & visible
> >
>
> That's the message that is returned by 'hcitool' when there is no usable
> Bluetooth adapter on your computer. See if it needs to be turned on by
> some
> hardware switch (assuming here that you actually HAVE an adapter on your
> computer).


As I mentioned above, yes, I have a USB Bluetooth Dongle installed in a USB
port.


>
> Samps
>

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  PEW   ;-)))

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Re: Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp program.

2008-01-28 Thread Samps
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:30:57 pm pew_from_hobart wrote:

> > Try 'hcitool scan' from a command-line
> > (Alt+F2, enter 'gnome-terminal', hit [Enter], type 'hcitool scan', after
> > having turned your phone and its Bluetooth function on)
>
> I did what you said eg command:
> hcitool scan
>
> gives message:
> No such device
>
> and yes my mobile phone was switched on with Tools / Connectivity /
> Bluetooth / Mode / On & visible
>

That's the message that is returned by 'hcitool' when there is no usable 
Bluetooth adapter on your computer. See if it needs to be turned on by some 
hardware switch (assuming here that you actually HAVE an adapter on your 
computer).


> btw -- what is the shell command to close the terminal (shell) window? (I
> just clicked on the [x] in the top-right corner of the window)

That'll do it...  else type 'exit' in the terminal window and hit [Enter]


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Re: Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp program.

2008-01-27 Thread pew_from_hobart
Hi Samps,

On 28/01/2008, Samps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:28:35 pm pew_from_hobart wrote:
> >
> > I don't understand what you mean by enter the 'obex://...' command.
> Where
>
> In the 'Location' field in Nautilus (click on the little 'Notepad' icon if
> you
> haven't got a 'Location' filed already)


Okay... I've just learnt something ;-) *SMILE*


> would I enter it?!?
>
> >
> >
> > Also I don't know what the id numbers of my SAGEM mobile phone is. Is
> there
> > an easy way I could find out?!?
> >
>
> Try 'hcitool scan' from a command-line
> (Alt+F2, enter 'gnome-terminal', hit [Enter], type 'hcitool scan', after
> having turned your phone and its Bluetooth function on)


I did what you said eg command:
hcitool scan

gives message:
No such device

and yes my mobile phone was switched on with Tools / Connectivity /
Bluetooth / Mode / On & visible

btw -- what is the shell command to close the terminal (shell) window? (I
just clicked on the [x] in the top-right corner of the window)


this will tell you the ID of your phone, the ID that you enter in
> Nautilus's 'Location' field...
>
> Samps
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Re: Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp program.

2008-01-27 Thread Samps
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:28:35 pm pew_from_hobart wrote:
>
> I don't understand what you mean by enter the 'obex://...' command. Where

In the 'Location' field in Nautilus (click on the little 'Notepad' icon if you 
haven't got a 'Location' filed already)

> would I enter it?!?

>
>
> Also I don't know what the id numbers of my SAGEM mobile phone is. Is there
> an easy way I could find out?!?
>

Try 'hcitool scan' from a command-line
(Alt+F2, enter 'gnome-terminal', hit [Enter], type 'hcitool scan', after 
having turned your phone and its Bluetooth function on)

this will tell you the ID of your phone, the ID that you enter in 
Nautilus's 'Location' field...

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Re: Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp program.

2008-01-27 Thread pew_from_hobart
Hello Chris and All UBUNTU Folk,

On 28/01/2008, Chris Debenham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 13:20 +1100, pew_from_hobart wrote:
> >
> > Dear UBUNTU People,
> >
> > This email's subject says it all:
> > Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp
> > program
> >
> > This is a bit complicated so I'll try to get my facts correct. *SMILE*
> >
> > I will happily supply more technical details as requested. (As long as
> > I myself can work out what you need to know)
> >
> > ( I'm still only a newbie at Linux UBUNTU ... however, I love it. I
> > think that UBUNTU is superior to M$ Windows in so many ways!!! )
> >
> > I'm trying to install software which will let me use a small device
> > called a "USB Bluetooth Dongle" (which I currently have plugged into
> > one of my computer's USB ports) communicate with my new SAGEM my411x
> > mobile phone.
>
> ... whole bunch clipped ...
>
> > I think the program installed okay... but I don't know how to test it
> > or the commands to use to operate the software.
>
> You don't actually use gnome-vfs stuff directly.  It is used by gnome
> applications such as nautilus.
> In the case of gnome-vfs-obexftp you can go to nautilus and enter
> obex://[00:00:00:00:00:00]/
> Replace 00:00:00:00:00:00 with the id of your device.


I don't understand what you mean by enter the 'obex://...' command. Where
would I enter it?!?

Like I said in my previous email I'm a newbie and I'm not that familiar with
Nautilus, yet.

Also I don't know what the id numbers of my SAGEM mobile phone is. Is there
an easy way I could find out?!?


An easier way to go is to install 'gnome-bluez' and 'gnome-bluetooth'
> then the next time you login a new icon will appear in the system tray
> (on your panel bar) that looks like the bluetooth logo.
> From this you can search for bluetooth devices, authenticate to them and
> then let it load the right path in nautilus.


That sounds like what I want to do. I did install the gnome-bluez (actually
named "bluez-gnome" and there was also other "bluez? programs I also
installed {see list below}) and gnome-bluetooth. I now have the "bluetooth"
icon on my system tray.

I used the Synaptic Package Manager and searched for "blue". Listed below is
a text listing of the programs names (or modules) which have been installed
currently with the Synaptic Package Manager.

I'm thinking that maybe some of these programs (or modules) could be
conflicting with each other.

Could you please advise me whether or not I should remove (uninstall) some
of these, to try to make my computer using the USB Bluetooth Dongle 'talk'
to the SAGEM mobile phone.

I must admit that I'm 'out of my depth' here... So I'll rely on your advice
;-)))

List of programs installed using Synaptic Package Manager (searching for
"blue")
==
bluetooth
bluetooth-alsa
bluez-btsco
bluez-cups
bluez-gnome
bluez-hcidump
bluez-pcmcia-su
bluez-utils
gnome-bluetooth
gnome-themes
gnome-vfx-obexftp
grml-btnet
gtk2-engines
gtk2-engines-ubuntu
kdebluetooth
libbluetooth2
libbtctl4
libgnomebt0
libgnomebt0-dev
libmultisync-plugin-irmc
libmultisync-plugin-irmc-bluetooth
libsbc0
multisync
nautilus-sendto
obexfs
obexftp
obexpushd
opensync-plugin-irmc
osso-gwconnect
osso-gwconnect-dev
p3nf
end list


Chris
>
>
>


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Re: Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp program.

2008-01-27 Thread Chris Debenham
On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 13:20 +1100, pew_from_hobart wrote:
> 
> Dear UBUNTU People,
> 
> This email's subject says it all: 
> Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp
> program
> 
> This is a bit complicated so I'll try to get my facts correct. *SMILE*
> 
> I will happily supply more technical details as requested. (As long as
> I myself can work out what you need to know)
> 
> ( I'm still only a newbie at Linux UBUNTU ... however, I love it. I
> think that UBUNTU is superior to M$ Windows in so many ways!!! )
> 
> I'm trying to install software which will let me use a small device
> called a "USB Bluetooth Dongle" (which I currently have plugged into
> one of my computer's USB ports) communicate with my new SAGEM my411x
> mobile phone.

... whole bunch clipped ...

> I think the program installed okay... but I don't know how to test it
> or the commands to use to operate the software.

You don't actually use gnome-vfs stuff directly.  It is used by gnome
applications such as nautilus.
In the case of gnome-vfs-obexftp you can go to nautilus and enter
obex://[00:00:00:00:00:00]/
Replace 00:00:00:00:00:00 with the id of your device.
An easier way to go is to install 'gnome-bluez' and 'gnome-bluetooth'
then the next time you login a new icon will appear in the system tray
(on your panel bar) that looks like the bluetooth logo.
From this you can search for bluetooth devices, authenticate to them and
then let it load the right path in nautilus.

Chris



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Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp program.

2008-01-26 Thread pew_from_hobart
Dear UBUNTU People,

This email's subject says it all:
Please help me to understand commands for the Gnome-VFS-Obexftp program

This is a bit complicated so I'll try to get my facts correct. *SMILE*

I will happily supply more technical details as requested. (As long as I
myself can work out what you need to know)

( I'm still only a newbie at Linux UBUNTU ... however, I love it. I think
that UBUNTU is superior to M$ Windows in so many ways!!! )

I'm trying to install software which will let me use a small device called a
"USB Bluetooth Dongle" (which I currently have plugged into one of my
computer's USB ports) communicate with my new SAGEM my411x mobile phone.

My (limited) understanding is that I should be able to use software on my pc
to communicate with my SAGEM mobile phone and exchange phone numbers,
pictures, video, and music etc. This sounds like a good thing to do.

Some time ago I posted a message about me wanting to do this and someone
recommended the "gnome-vfs-obexftp" program.

To cut a long story short... I think that I have correctly install the
software, however *I don't know how to use it*.

This is a website about the "gnome-vfs-obexftp" program:

http://blogs.gnome.org/jamesh/2007/01/03/gnome-vfs-obexftp-01-released/

after downloading the files and having problems understanding what to do, I
decided to email both of the 2 authors of the program

Mikael Hallendal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Richard Hult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mikael kindly replied to my email with this message:

Mikael said the following in an email to me>

I'm sorry but I have to admit that I can't remember the steps needed
to get that installed (or where to put the GnomeVFS plugins).

If you are on Ubuntu Linux you should be able to simply install it with

'apt-get install gnome-vfs-obexftp'

Sorry that I can't be of more help but I have not touched that code in
two-three years.

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