Re: [ubuntu-uk] Thinking about switching to linux

2007-03-04 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 03/03/07, London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Phil, I have recently switched from Windows XP to Ubuntu on my
 desktop- I am using an Alcatel Speed Touch Pro router.(with one port)
 I have just bought a secondhand laptop which also has Ubuntu- and I
 was interested in the possibility of getting a router with more than
 one port-have you come across one? I see you mention it here but
 without any specs- so I was not sure if it was wishful thinking? Also
 can you tell me where I could purchase one?

 Thanks.

 Caroline (lsp)

Hi Caroline,

As mentioned previously, these do exist. The other possibility (which
might be cheaper) is to keep your current router, and buy a switch
(like the one that Ben originally gave a link to). Then you would plug
the switch between the router and the PCs.


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[ubuntu-uk] Security on Ubuntu

2007-03-04 Thread Benjamin Webb
I know that Linux is supposed to be much more secure than Windows. But
I still feel it would be best to have Antivirus and Firewall.

My quiestion is, do either of these come with Ubuntu by default, and
if not, what free software should I use.

Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Security on Ubuntu

2007-03-04 Thread Andy
On 04/03/07, Roberto Sarrionandia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone who told you not to have a firewall is pretty foolish,

Anti-virus is only needed if you can't configure applications properly.

Why have the firewall drop inbound traffic? The traffic will only
really do damage if a program is listening for input on that port. Why
have a program listen to a port just to firewall it out. You may as
well not have had the program bind to that port in the first place.

The reason firewalls are common on Windows is that Windows comes with
so much listening to the outside world its hard to turn it all off.

Of course some applications will try to listen to a port, they are
normally spy ware, don't install them in the first place.

of course a firewall is always nice to see if people are trying to
make inbound connections to you.

And of course you could always have a hardware firewall, most (all)
NAT routers provide some level of firewalling (they haven't got much
choice really, it's part of how NAT works).

(having said all this I have Firestarter configure IPTables, just in
case I stupidly install a daemon.)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Security on Ubuntu

2007-03-04 Thread Tez
Benjamin Webb wrote:
 No ones told me I didn't need I firewall, but I wasn't sure whether I
 needed one. I'll use firestarter as you suggested just to make my PC
 slightly more dummy proof. I'd also feel more comfortable with an
 anitvirus so I'll try Clam.

   
All ClamAV will do is scan files for windows viruses. Unless you are on 
a network with windows machines and serve files to those machines, then 
it's completely pointless installing ClamAV, or any other anti-virus app

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Security on Ubuntu

2007-03-04 Thread alan c
Caroline Ford wrote:
 alan c wrote:



 Think of scattering seeds of weeds on a concrete driveway. The seeds 
 will not flourish. Just like computer viruses and linux.
 Just an experiment to verify this - download a windows .exe file, and 
 in ubuntu, try to run it - click, double click, whatever. It will not 
 run. Even if it was a virus it will not run.
   

 It will if you have wine installed.

Ah there is a message there somewehere!   :-)

 Try a more advanced thing. Download a real linux binary file which is 
 *intended* to be installed - such as the realplayer binary
 RealPlayer10GOLD.bin from the real site:
 http://uk.real.com/player/select/?src=fd_uk_pldl_oosrsrc=fd_uk_pldl_oos

 When you have downloaded it and saved it somewhere, click on it. 
 double click on it, use it in the run  facility or whatever.
 It does not run. I will leave it as an exercise for the reader to 
 discover how it can be run,  :-)  :-)

 If you download an Ubuntu binary package and click on it it will open in 
 gdebi, a package installation program.

Whoops thanks. I am a kubuntu user and in kubuntu nothing happens - on 
my install anyway. IIRC the (gdebi) package installation program 
actually asks you if you want to install (?)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Security on Ubuntu

2007-03-04 Thread Caroline Ford
alan c wrote:
 Caroline Ford wrote:
   
 alan c wrote:
 

 Think of scattering seeds of weeds on a concrete driveway. The seeds 
 will not flourish. Just like computer viruses and linux.
 Just an experiment to verify this - download a windows .exe file, and 
 in ubuntu, try to run it - click, double click, whatever. It will not 
 run. Even if it was a virus it will not run.
   
 It will if you have wine installed.
 

 Ah there is a message there somewehere!   :-)
   
I doubt you can get a windows virus using wine though. As far as I know 
most viruses propagate through problems in outlook (express) and 
internet explorer. Using firefox and thunderbird cuts your risks 
significantly..
 If you download an Ubuntu binary package and click on it it will open in 
 gdebi, a package installation program.
 

 Whoops thanks. I am a kubuntu user and in kubuntu nothing happens - on 
 my install anyway. IIRC the (gdebi) package installation program 
 actually asks you if you want to install (?)
   
Yes and you need to give it a password too - it uses gksudo I think..

Caroline


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Security on Ubuntu

2007-03-04 Thread Adam McMaster
On 04/03/07, Tony Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello, Ben.

 I would recommend using rkhunter, which is in the Ubuntu repositories.
 This is a Unix/Linux root 'kit' hunter like the older chkrootkit. They
 both check for malicious software installed on Unix/Linux. Those of you
 who think that Unix/linux is not as vulnerable as Windows should read:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit

 Whilst it's true that Unix/Linux is not vulnerable to Windows viruses,
 Trojan's and worms there are many other threats out there waiting to
 trap the unwary. Anyone connecting to Broadband without a firewall is
 just asking to be attacked by swarms of botnets:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet

 Wake up to this ubuntu-uk, or live to regret it!

 Best wishes,

 Tony.

Installing a rootkit would require the attacker to already have
access, or to have some way of running arbitrary code. No-one's saying
this is impossible under Linux, but rootkits aren't anything special
and their existence doesn't make Linux as vulnerable as Windows.
Having said that, I do recommend rkhunter for anyone wanting to check
for rootkits -- I use it on my servers.

As for being attacked by botnets, what in the default Ubuntu install
would they be attacking? There are no services running...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Security on Ubuntu

2007-03-04 Thread Tony Travis
Adam McMaster wrote:
 [...]
 Installing a rootkit would require the attacker to already have
 access, or to have some way of running arbitrary code. No-one's saying
 this is impossible under Linux, but rootkits aren't anything special
 and their existence doesn't make Linux as vulnerable as Windows.
 Having said that, I do recommend rkhunter for anyone wanting to check
 for rootkits -- I use it on my servers.
 
 As for being attacked by botnets, what in the default Ubuntu install
 would they be attacking? There are no services running...

Hello, Adam.

There's a balance to be struck between scaremongering and complacency in 
the realm of computer security. What concerned me about the discussion 
going on here was the impression I got from reading it that some people 
think Unix/Linux is not vulnerable to attack because it's not vulnerable 
to Windows viruses etc. All you have to do is run a java-enabled web 
browser on your Linux box and be tricked into downloading a malicious 
Java applet or application to expose your system to platform-independent 
attack. For example:

http://www.tenebril.com/src/spyware/malicious-java.php

It's common sense that as Linux increases in popularity it will be 
targeted more and more by cross-platform virus and Trojan writers. Many 
attacks exploit known weaknesses in software such as buffer overflows 
etc. to gain root access. In my own recent(!) experience, a security 
weakness in PHP resulted in a botnet attack penetrating my defences. All 
I was doing was running a website using the TikiWiki PHP-based CMS...

Security gaps plugged now, but I can tell you it pays to be vigilant!

A good way to attack your own defences is to run a port scan using 
Gibson Research's ShieldsUP!:

http://www.grc.com/

I think it's a mistake to suggest that Ubuntu is 'safe' because there 
are 'no' services running on it by default. What you probably mean is 
there are no externally accessible services. All you have to do is use 
an insecure IRC client to expose your system to attack by botnets, In 
the end, the simplest thing to do is use a router with a firewall to 
connect to the internet. It's people who make computers insecure by the 
way they use them and I'm as guilty of that as anyone else. However, it 
does help me to know that if I accidentally expose my system to attack 
there are some defences in place to minimise the damage to my system.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Thinking about switching to linux

2007-03-04 Thread Benjamin Webb
So, I've got a hardware firewall in my router, so I shouldn't need a
software one.

What about anti-virus software though? Is there any software that
scans for Linux viruses, or do they all just check for windows ones?

I'll make sure I use a different password for my Ubuntu install (I'm
terrible for using the same password all the time at the moment).

Thanks for all your help.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Thinking about switching to linux

2007-03-04 Thread Roberto Sarrionandia
On Sunday 04 March 2007 21:53:17 Benjamin Webb wrote:
 So, I've got a hardware firewall in my router, so I shouldn't need a
 software one.

 What about anti-virus software though? Is there any software that
 scans for Linux viruses, or do they all just check for windows ones?

 I'll make sure I use a different password for my Ubuntu install (I'm
 terrible for using the same password all the time at the moment).

 Thanks for all your help.
 Ben Webb

There are no real Linux viruses. The Linux antiviruses scan for Windows 
viruses.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Thinking about switching to linux

2007-03-04 Thread Adam McMaster
On 04/03/07, Benjamin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, I've got a hardware firewall in my router, so I shouldn't need a
 software one.

 What about anti-virus software though? Is there any software that
 scans for Linux viruses, or do they all just check for windows ones?

 I'll make sure I use a different password for my Ubuntu install (I'm
 terrible for using the same password all the time at the moment).

 Thanks for all your help.
 Ben Webb


ClamAV was mentioned earlier in the other thread -- that does
primarily scan for Windows viruses, but it will also detect malicious
Linux binaries (as well as other things, such as malicious PHP
scripts).

Earlier this evening, I happened to watch a video of a talk given by
Bruce Schnier[1] in which he mentions the tradeoffs which come with
security measures. In this case you're trading the CPU time required
for scanning (most of which is spent looking for viruses which can't
affect you) for peace of mind. The question you have to ask is, is it
worth it? As a Linux user it isn't  -- the risk of encountering an
effective Linux virus is exceptionally small, and my computer runs
slow enough as it is.

That obviously doesn't apply to servers which handle files for Windows
users (file servers, email, etc.). In that case ClamAV is very useful.
But for a single desktop machine you're just wasting your own time.

1: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/schneier_on_vid.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Curve-fitting program or package (a gnuplot example)

2007-03-04 Thread Toby Smithe
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 15:25 +, Robin Menneer wrote:
[snip]
 Postscript.  Found (eventually) at www.xru.org.index.asp a program
 which I used on line (on a mac), is very simple, and apart from not
 drawing the graph, did all I wanted, including giving me the points
 for me to draw.  It should be part of the Ubuntu package.

Almost everything in the free software landscape was created by a
volunteer. If the feature hasn't yet been implemented it means two of
one thing:

1. That demand isn't high enough
2. (Perhaps a subset of [1]) That no-one has implemented it yet.

Although something perhaps should be provided, if someone notices that
missing feature (i.e., you), then that usually means someone else has
too, and it will probably eventually appear one day. If you really want
to have this, without writing any code yourself, you could file a
wishlist bug either on Launchpad, or at your preferred upstream.

That perhaps could be read more brashly than I wrote it to sound,

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Re: Please provide some updated details.

2007-03-04 Thread krishnakant Mane
ok,
so I need to install open office 2.2 on ubuntu 6.10 for best available
accessibility is it right?
if so then will just apt-get install get me the right version?
and as of firefox 3 will I need to setup some thing in my system?
till date I have mostly depended on apt-get so will I get the right
firefox version for orca?
and should I do apt-get install gnome-orca for the latest version of
orca or is it needed to be compiled from source?
I also get the impression that espeak works better with orca as far as
the responsiveness is concerned.  if that is so can some one give me
some steps to get espeak working with orca.
I don't have espeak running on my machine right now but I tested it on
windows and it seams to be very responsive.
thanks,
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Re: Please provide some updated details.

2007-03-04 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi.

Unless you are willing to upgrade to Feisty, apt-get won't help you with
Open Office, espeak, the gnome-speech espeak driver,  or gnome-orca.  If you 
stay with Edgy, you will need to
build from source.  There is an espeak package in Edgy, but it isn't
recent enough for your needs.  I run Feisty, so the espeak driver
already exists for me as a Ubuntu package.  I know there is a link with
instructions on how to get it working from source, but I don't have it
available here.

There isn't a Firefox 3 package in Ubuntu yet, so you will need to
download a nightly build from:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/

  Kenny

On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:17:53PM +0530, krishnakant Mane wrote:
 ok,
 so I need to install open office 2.2 on ubuntu 6.10 for best available
 accessibility is it right?
 if so then will just apt-get install get me the right version?
 and as of firefox 3 will I need to setup some thing in my system?
 till date I have mostly depended on apt-get so will I get the right
 firefox version for orca?
 and should I do apt-get install gnome-orca for the latest version of
 orca or is it needed to be compiled from source?
 I also get the impression that espeak works better with orca as far as
 the responsiveness is concerned.  if that is so can some one give me
 some steps to get espeak working with orca.
 I don't have espeak running on my machine right now but I tested it on
 windows and it seams to be very responsive.
 thanks,
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OT getting files added to a Ubuntu package

2007-03-04 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi.

I recently noticed there wasn't a way for speechd-up to start
automatically.  I created a udev rule to start speechd-up in daemon
mode.  
What is the procedure to get this rule included in the speechd-up
package?

Thanks in advance for information.

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Re: OT getting files added to a Ubuntu package

2007-03-04 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 06:14:03AM EST, Kenny Hitt wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I recently noticed there wasn't a way for speechd-up to start
 automatically.  I created a udev rule to start speechd-up in daemon
 mode.  
 What is the procedure to get this rule included in the speechd-up
 package?
 
 Thanks in advance for information.

If you send me a copy, I will look it over, and drop it into the 
package, and upload a new revision.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ainda sobre acesso a partições do xp

2007-03-04 Thread antonio
Meu Edgy também funciona assim, tenho uma partição NTFS onde está o 
sistema com acesso restrito (leitura) e uma partição fat onde estão meus 
documentos com acesso irrestrito (leitura e escrita). A montagem é 
automática inclusive quando plugo o pendrive e o hd externo - ambos fat.

Follmann escreveu:
 as minhas partições windows são NTFS ... mas o meu Ubunto reconheceu as duas
 na instalação e automaticamente criou um ponto de montagem pra elas. Sempre
 que faço login elas aparecem na área de trabalho. Assim, tenho acesso a elas
 - embora somente leitura.

 Com você não funciona assim ?


   


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[Ubuntu-BR] Apresentacao

2007-03-04 Thread Bernardo Rangel Tura
Bom Dia a todos!

Meu nome e Bernardo Rangel Tura, sou medico e trabalho com pesquisa
clinica.

Durantes cerca de 10 anos fiz parte da disciplina de informatica medica
da UERJ (http://www.lampada.uerj.br) e atualmente trabalho no Instituto
Nacional de Cardiologia (http://www.incl.saude.gov.br).

Ha 15 dias migrei de forma radical para o UBUNTU e estou muito contente!

O pessoal da lista R-statme indicou que devia frequantar este grupo
entao...


Espero poder ajudar nas areas que entendo: Medicina, Estatistica,
Pesquisa Clinica etc

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Apresentacao

2007-03-04 Thread Andre Vargas
Seja Bem vindo!!!
Não esqueça buscar informações na documentação do Ubuntu e nos sites
Wiki, que são acessados pelo site do ubuntu.

Em 04/03/07, Bernardo Rangel Tura[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 Bom Dia a todos!

 Meu nome e Bernardo Rangel Tura, sou medico e trabalho com pesquisa
 clinica.

 Durantes cerca de 10 anos fiz parte da disciplina de informatica medica
 da UERJ (http://www.lampada.uerj.br) e atualmente trabalho no Instituto
 Nacional de Cardiologia (http://www.incl.saude.gov.br).

 Ha 15 dias migrei de forma radical para o UBUNTU e estou muito contente!

 O pessoal da lista R-statme indicou que devia frequantar este grupo
 entao...


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Apresentacao

2007-03-04 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
Em Dom, 2007-03-04 às 08:29 -0300, Bernardo Rangel Tura escreveu:
 Bom Dia a todos!
 
 Meu nome e Bernardo Rangel Tura, sou medico e trabalho com pesquisa
 clinica.
 
 Durantes cerca de 10 anos fiz parte da disciplina de informatica medica
 da UERJ (http://www.lampada.uerj.br) e atualmente trabalho no Instituto
 Nacional de Cardiologia (http://www.incl.saude.gov.br).
 
 Ha 15 dias migrei de forma radical para o UBUNTU e estou muito contente!

Você, como eu, migrou de forma radical. Acredito que dentro de alguns,
meses, quando você tiver se acostumado completamente com o Ubuntu,
poderá compreender, como eu compreendi, que esta é a única forma de
REALMENTE migrar para o Linux. Minha experiência tem mostrado que a
maioria das pessoas que instala o Linux em dual-boot pensando em
aprend-lo gradualmente e mudar aos poucos acabam ficando eternamente
atoladas na fase dual-boot -- quando não desistem do Linux totalmente.

A propósito, parabéns pela coragem. Mudanças são difíceis de fazer
porque envolvem a humildade de recomeçar, de reaprender. Mudanças
radicais são ainda mais difíceis porque retiram de nós o conhecimento
que achávamos que tínhamos, nos fazendo ficar meio adolescentes de novo.
Somente pessoas que sabem o que querem e que têm certa grandeza
espiritual para se dispor a aprender de novo dão esse passo. O resto
fica reclamando que o Linux não é igual ao Windows.

Uma vez que a minha experiência de migração foi idêntica à sua, talvez
eu possa lhe ajudar em alguma coisa, principalmente quanto ao estímulo
para não sucumbir à tentação de reinstalar Windows. Conte comigo.
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[Ubuntu-BR] pra ver o windows, reinstalo o ubuntu?

2007-03-04 Thread Leonardo Bergamo
Obrigado, gente, mas não, o meu Ubuntu é Dapper e não aparece na área de 
trabalho.  Aparece no navegador quando mas não consegue nem ler.
Ah! Desculpa ter falado do link, meu provedor enlouqueceu: tô abrindo e-mail 
com o Thunderbird e trocando mensagens instantâneas com o Gaim, mas não tá 
abrindo nada com o navegador, da mesma forma no windows.
Voltando as partições: será que reinstalo o ubuntu? e não perco o que instalei 
depois ou gravei? ou ainda passo pra Edgy ou Buzzy (que aliás, não sei como 
fazer e nem bem qual a diferença do dapper)?

 From: antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ainda 
 sobre acesso a partições do xp To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam 
 Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; 
 charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Meu Edgy também funciona assim, 
 tenho uma partição NTFS onde está o sistema com acesso restrito 
 (leitura) e uma partição fat onde estão meus documentos com acesso 
 irrestrito (leitura e escrita). A montagem é automática inclusive 
 quando plugo o pendrive e o hd externo - ambos fat. Follmann escreveu:
  as minhas partições windows são NTFS ... mas o meu Ubunto reconheceu as 
  duas
  na instalação e automaticamente criou um ponto de montagem pra elas. Sempre
  que faço login elas aparecem na área de trabalho. Assim, tenho acesso a 
  elas
  - embora somente leitura.
 
  Com você não funciona assim ?
 
 



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[Ubuntu-BR] ops - errei o nome do beryl

2007-03-04 Thread Leonardo Bergamo
Ops! Chamei o beryl de buzzy - hehe!


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ops - errei o nome do beryl

2007-03-04 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
Em Dom, 2007-03-04 às 14:54 -0300, Leonardo Bergamo escreveu:
 Ops! Chamei o beryl de buzzy - hehe!
Buzzy era uma marca de chiclete e o Beryl e eye candy, faz sentido.
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[Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com latex no ubuntu 6.10

2007-03-04 Thread Alexsandro Alves

Olá,

Instalei os seguintes pacotes de autoria TeX:

auctex,
hevea,
latex-ucs,
latex-ucs-contrib,
latex-xft-fonts,
preview-latex-style,
tetex-base,
tetex-bin,
tetex-extra,
tex4ht,
tex4ht-common,
tex-common.

e instalei os seguintes pacotes de autoria TeX (universe) pelo synaptic:

abntex,
bibcursed,
bibindex,
bibtool,
kile,
kile-i18n.

No entanto, não estou conseguindo compilar arquivos latex em português. O
kile e o latex não reconhecem as palavras acentuadas e
reclamam que deverim está em modo matemático.

Em anexo está um arquivo .tex e o arquivo .dvi correspondente para verem os
problemas com as fontes. Alguém poderia me ajudar a solucionar esses
problemas ? Devo configurar algo ou instalar algum pacote ?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com latex no ubuntu 6.10

2007-03-04 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
Em Dom, 2007-03-04 às 16:07 -0300, Alexsandro Alves escreveu:
 
 No entanto, não estou conseguindo compilar arquivos latex em português. O
 kile e o latex não reconhecem as palavras acentuadas e
 reclamam que deverim está em modo matemático.

Antes de pensar que pode haver um problema com o latex, vamos checar se
não existe algum problema com seus arquivos.

Acrescente estas linhas no preâmbulo:

\usepackage{ucs}
\usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

Se funcionar, o problema era simplesmente que o Ubuntu usa Unicode e o
LateX normalmente não entende essa codificação.
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[Ubuntu-BR] Velox = Solucionado

2007-03-04 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
Meu depoimento e minhas instruções sobre configuração do Velox estão
aqui:
http://www.leopoldina.com.br/~jggouvea/pmwiki.php/Cronicas/ConfiguracaoDoVelox

Podem pôr na Wiki se quiserem.
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[Ubuntu-BR] Alternativas Livres

2007-03-04 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
O site www.osalt.com é uma lista de alternativas livres a programas
proprietários. Muito organizado e fácil  de usar. É a melhor opção para
indicar a usuários novatos que estão sempre perguntando qual programa
substitui qual programa.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux e Velox : 90% resolvido

2007-03-04 Thread [o] Follmann
Excelente trabalho, colocou todas as informações necessárias no tutorial.

Muito obrigado pela parte que me toca; mas me diga, no que eu ajudei, que eu
já não lembro ?

Enquanto isso não consigo fazer meu modem funcionar de jeito nenhum  já
testei até o Kurumin, e nada.


Em 03/03/07, José Geraldo Gouvêa [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Pessoal da lista

 Depois de algumas semanas de pesquisas e de bater muito a cabeça na
 parede eu consegui, finalmente, conectar-me à internet usando o Velox.
 Foi preciso muita paciência, especialmente com os técnicos do
 atendimento telefônico da Telemar que parecem perder completamente o
 senso quando ouvem a palavra Linux e se recolhem em posição fetal como
 se estivessem diante do cão.

 Aqui deixo registradas minhas aventuras e prometo que estarei
 trabalhando em wikificar o processo todo para poupar paciência aos
 futuros usuários de Velox da lista. Fica também meu agradecimento aos
 companheiros que contribuiram com sugestões e ao coitado do funcionário
 do atendimento da Telemar, que eu tive de xingar de besta, de
 imbecil e de tapado para que ele parasse de me insistir em me dizer
 que a Telemar não suporta Linux e passasse a simplesmente responder as
 minhas perguntas em vez de me aconselhar a instalar o Windows XP. Não
 lhe guardo mágoa, ele é uma boa alma, apenas corrompido pelo lado negro
 da força. ;-)


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com latex no ubuntu 6.10

2007-03-04 Thread Alexsandro Alves
Obrigado,

Com os acréscimos no preâmbulo consegui compilar os arquivos .tex.

Alexsandro

Em 04/03/07, José Geraldo Gouvêa [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Em Dom, 2007-03-04 às 16:07 -0300, Alexsandro Alves escreveu:
 
  No entanto, não estou conseguindo compilar arquivos latex em português.
 O
  kile e o latex não reconhecem as palavras acentuadas e
  reclamam que deverim está em modo matemático.

 Antes de pensar que pode haver um problema com o latex, vamos checar se
 não existe algum problema com seus arquivos.

 Acrescente estas linhas no preâmbulo:

 \usepackage{ucs}
 \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc}
 \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

 Se funcionar, o problema era simplesmente que o Ubuntu usa Unicode e o
 LateX normalmente não entende essa codificação.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Matéria sobre Linux no IDG Now

2007-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Não concordo integralmente com a crítica ao jornalista, mas considero que
ela possui muita coerência e merece respeito. De mais a mais essa discussão
é longa e as comparação são inevitáveis dada a existência de um monopólio
espúrio.

Em 03/03/07, raulpereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Entendo Luiz,

 Mas também acho normal isso é uma questão da resistência humana normal que
 não deve ser repudiada e sim estudada. Isso é natural, se vc tem costume
 ou
 vicio por algum procedimento ou uso de programa, isso tornará
 implicitamente
 um padrão pra vc, ele lhe atende, ele lhe supri e com base nisso, todo e
 qualquer produto que tenha a intenção de fazer o mesmo para lhe conquistar
 no mínimo deverá suprir todas as suas espectativas senão o cara que vc usa
 será melhor (mesmo não sendo verdade, talvez). Novamente, é uma
 resistência
 humana, quantas pessoas eu já tentei convencer em usar openoffice e todas
 falam que preferem word pq ele é melhor (?!), vc não teve situações como
 esta também? Mas é nessa negativa que podemos colher dados interessantes,
 por exemplo, o motivo que a pessoa acha isso, provavelmente um problema de
 usabilidade, acessibilidade, interface, hardware, suporte, enfim ... é
 isso.

 vlw ... t+,
 raulpereira.


 On 3/3/07, Luiz Henrique Farcic Mineo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Comparações são positivas e necessárias, mas, como disse no e-mail
  anterior, o autor pecou ao considerar o padrão de sistemas Microsoft de
  ser como o ideal. Acho válido mostrarmos que as coisas não são assim, e
  se não formos nós, que temos maior conhecimento sobre o assunto,
  mostrarmos os erros cometidos, quem o fará?
 
  Em Sáb, 2007-03-03 às 13:08 -0300, raulpereira escreveu:
   Realmente ele pecou por esses pontos (exclarecer melhor),
  
   Porém vejo a matéria como um testemunho de usuário Windows que
 ingressou
  no
   mundo Linux não tem muito tempo e esta satisfeito com isso, parecendo
  usar
   Ubuntu pois fez muitas referências positivas para o mesmo. Posso estar
   enganado, mas essa foi a minha impressão lendo o texto. Acho super
  válido
   que mais e mais artigos/publicações brotem pela web ou seja qual for a
   mídia, mas que o seja por pessoas que não sejam técnicas, afinal o
  grande
   público ta ai e deles não da pra cobrar que não sejam feitas
  comparações, e
   esses autores vão estar falando o linguajar que a grande massa quer
  escutar.
   Ou voce nunca escutou um tio/parente/vizinho falando: beltrano seu
   computador ta com probrema? fala com o felizberto que ele faz
 faculdade
  de
   informática, ele resolve pra vc isso, quem é da área sabe que isso
 não
  é
   verdade, mas enfim falem mal e errado mas falem de mim!! ... :)
  
   Att,
   raulpereira.
  
  
   On 3/3/07, Luiz Henrique Farcic Mineo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Bom, se vc acredita que o objetivo do Ubuntu é copiar o jeito
 Windows
  de
ser, e que seus aplicativos emulam muito bem as principais funções
  do
mesmo, então vc realmente não tem do que reclamar.
No entanto, mantenho meu ponto de vista. O linux não deve ser
 mostrado
aos novatos como um quase Windows, que é bom por ser de graça, ou
  mais
barato.
   
Em Sáb, 2007-03-03 às 12:01 -0300, Jose A. Pinheiro escreveu:
 não vi aonde o lui henrique quiz chegar ao mandar tão extenso
 e-mail
 pro jornalista. não vi distorção na materia. achei a materia muito
 positiva pro linux em geral e muito favoravel ao ubuntu em
  particular

 Em 03/03/07, Luiz Henrique Farcic Mineo[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  escreveu:
  Não sei se todos viram, mas ontem o IDG Now publicou uma matéria
  sobre
  Linux no Desktop. Segue o link:
 
 
   
 
 http://idgnow.uol.com.br/computacao_pessoal/2007/03/02/idgnoticia.2007-03-02.8987983615
 
  A matéria me deixou MUITO decepcionado e descontente com a
 redação
  do
  IDG Now, por ter distorcido tanto a imagem de distribuições
 Linux
  (devido às constantes comparações com o Windows). Para não
 deixar
passar
  em branco, resolvi escrever um e-mail para o autor da matéria,
  expressando a minha opinião, a qual gostaria de compartilhar com
 a
  lista. Gostaria de sugerir também que elaborássemos outras
  respostas,
a
  fim de evitarmos surpresas desagradáveis como essa.
 
 
  --
 
Para:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Assunto:
  Crítica a matéria sobre
  distribuições Linux
Data:
  Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:43:01 -0300
 
 
  Caro Guilherme,
 
  A respeito da matéria Linux: seis distribuições para usuários
 que
  querem usar o sistema no desktop, publicada no IDG Now,
 gostaria
  de
  fazer algumas críticas.
 
  Entendo que a matéria foi feita para usuários leigos, com pouco
 ou
  nenhum conhecimento em informática, mas isso não justifica
 alguns
 

[Ubuntu-BR] como ver partições do windows xp ? - ainda não deu

2007-03-04 Thread Leonardo Bergamo
agora consegui ver o link q me mandaram - obrigado
mas o meu ubuntu não monta as partições windows (6.06 - dapper)
reinstá-lo? eu queria copiar arquivos




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Matéria sobre Linux no IDG Now

2007-03-04 Thread Lucas Arruda (llbra)
O problema todo e que esses usuarios sempre tem a base do Windows.

Apesar de parecer sem maldade, falar que ele e substancialmente
diferente em relacao ao Windows e maldade, pois poe o Windows como se
ele fosse uma referencia para SO pelo fato de ser mais usado.

Mas, de certo modo, achei que ele nao foi tao desfavoravel ao Linux e
ate mencionou que seria uma epoca boa para migrar para ele e que o
Windows novo esta meio fora da realidade.

Na boa, uma coisa que temos que reconhecer e que o Linux tem um monte
de problemas, assim como o Windows.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Matéria sobre Linux no IDG Now

2007-03-04 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
Em Dom, 2007-03-04 às 23:18 -0300, Lucas Arruda (llbra) escreveu:

 Na boa, uma coisa que temos que reconhecer e que o Linux tem um monte
 de problemas, assim como o Windows.
 
Esta comparação eu sinceramente acho injusta. Problemas só existem
quando queremos fazer algo e não podemos. E eu há muito tempo não
encontro nada disso. Sei que existem certas configurações de hardware e
certas aplicações de software que não rodam muito bem, mas para a maior
parte dos usuários, uma vez tendo sido instalado e configurado, o Linux
roda com mais estabilidade e segurança que o Widnows e não fica devendo.

Há três problemas do Windows que o Linux não tem

* Vírus
* Fragmentação do sistema de arquivos
* Preço alto

Quem quiser ficar livre destes problemas tem que aprender a tolerar
alguns outros. Mas enquanto os problemas do Windows afetam a todos, os
do Linux raramente afetam a maioria. 

Usuários de Desktop não precisam de muitas coisas que eles acham que
precisam. Pirataria nos acostuma a ter programas de que não precisamos,
como PageMaker e CorelDraw.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Matéria sobre Linux no IDG Now

2007-03-04 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
Em Seg, 2007-03-05 às 00:50 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 Por outro lado, estética e ergonomicamente o windows é mais bem aceito e a
 maioria opta de acordo com sua realidade.

Uma vez que estética é um critério subjetivo, fica difícil usá-lo para
explicar alguma coisa. Mas nem sempre dá mesmo para explicar porque as
pessoas escolhem certas coisas (Betamax x VHS, Cassete x Rolo, etc.)

Quanto a 'ergonomia', h Vou pesquisar, mas não me convenci que o
Windows seja mais ergonõmico (desde quando clicar representa menos
esforço que digitação+autocomplete+teclas de atalho?). De qualquer modo,
só não te dou o benefício da dúvida porque tenho meus problemas de DORT
(tendinite) e uso Linux sem riscos.

Em minha opinião o Windows chegou na frente, ocupou um nicho de mercado
através de uma ótima estratégia de marketing, soube fidelizar os
usuários (criando uma certa dependência neles) e agora é difícil
removê-lo. ,

A Microsoft cometeu inúmeras trapalhadas nestes últimos anos (falhas de
segurança, exposição a vírus, bugs nunca resolvidos, espionagem nos
usuários, falta de suporte, ameaças legais, etc.) e deixou seus usuários
na mão n vezes, mas eles têm uma estratégia fulminante que se baseia em
cativar os novos usuários. Quase certo que quem compra um computador
novo use o Windows. Até os vendedores parecem estar mancomunados nisto.
Assim, mesmo com um ou outro usuário que cria coragem e migra para outra
plataforma, eles continuam controlando o mercado.

Veja só eles estão lançando um SO que não tem nada de revolucionário e
milhares de miolos-moles no mundo inteiro estão correndo para trocar
seus computadores perfeitamente funcionais por máquinas novas e
super-caras só para rodar o novo Vista! 

Veja o caso do meu irmão, usuário convicto de Windows apesar de dois
anos de exposição ao Linux: ele um dia catou marra comigo porque agora
o IE 7 tem abas. Uma coisa que o Mozilla tem desde a versão 0.alguma
coisa!

Os usuários de Windows acham que o Windows é o tal porque se acostumaram
com ele, são como fanáticos religiosos. Quando uma empresa domina seu
mercado e o entende bem, é muito difícil derrubá-la -- a menos que ela
comece a fazer besteiras. 

A única chance de vencer o monopólio é atacando na raiz: educando os
futuros usuários. Os de agora já estão em sua maioria perdidos, pois
quem já aprendeu a usar computador não quer aprender de novo.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Matéria sobre Linux no IDG Now

2007-03-04 Thread Lucas Arruda (llbra)

 Esta comparação eu sinceramente acho injusta. Problemas só existem
 quando queremos fazer algo e não podemos. E eu há muito tempo não
 encontro nada disso. Sei que existem certas configurações de hardware e
 certas aplicações de software que não rodam muito bem, mas para a maior
 parte dos usuários, uma vez tendo sido instalado e configurado, o Linux
 roda com mais estabilidade e segurança que o Widnows e não fica devendo.


Nao, nao e injusta. E sei, vc sabe, o Windows fica devendo muito pro Linux.

Mas, nenhum SO e perfeito. O Linux nao e perfeito. Se fosse, entao ele seria
um produto final, e nao precisaria estar melhorando a cada dia.

Nao ser perfeito nao e ruim. Nao existe perfeicao para falar a verdade.
O Linux e muito bom, mas tem muito pra melhorar em varias coisas, e
ainda bem que varias pessoas sabem disso e desenvolvem programas
para ele, mexem no Kernel Linux, nos programas GNU, etc.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Matéria sobre Linux no IDG Now

2007-03-04 Thread Gustavo Melo
  Lí a matéria 3 VEZES antes de postar aqui. Não ví nenhum tipo de  
distorção. Pelo contrário , achei a matéria fortemente POSITIVA a  
imagem do Linux.

  Sejamos menos radicais e mais realistas... 90% das pessoas do mundo  
ainda usam windows. Eles são os normais , nós é que somos os loucos !  
Não se esqueçam que muitos gênios foram tachados de loucos e que sua  
genialidade acabou sendo descoberta muitas vezes postumamente ou após  
muito tempo.

  Na parte da matéria que fala em Ubuntu e Kurumin só faltou o  
jornalista mandar beijos para o Mark Shutlework e para o Carlos  
Morimoto.

  Eu uso Ubuntu em todos meus computadores (2 mesa + 1 notebook) ,  
acho o ubuntu ótimo , recomendo a todos que usem ubuntu ... MAS NEM  
POR ISSO EU DIGO QUE O UBUNTU É PERFEITO , 8º MARAVILHA DO MUNDO OU  
MILAGRE DA HUMANIDADE ! Porra o que vocês querem ? um jornalista  
tendencioso QUE SÓ FALE BEM de Linux e SOftware Livre ? eu quero  
analistas IMPARCIAIS COM CREDIBILIDADE , assim quando falarem bem não  
pairará dúvidas ... quando falarem mal idem ... pra mim esse Guilherme  
Felitti mostrou ser um cara imparcial até o momento ...

  Certamente não deveriamos ataca-lo ou trata-lo como inimigo, mas sim  
torna-lo um aliado( o que ele já demonstrou ser ) , convida-lo para  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Flash player 9.0.31 versão final para Linux

2007-03-04 Thread Gabriel Mazetto
é mais uma xgambi :)

Em 03/03/07, Lucas Arruda (llbra) [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  adblock, da pra desativar o flash errante

 parece uma solucao windows: tem virus na internet, entao vamos
 instalar dois antivirus e um firewall que a gente ta protegido.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Matéria sobre Linux no IDG Now

2007-03-04 Thread [o] Follmann
Eu só quero fazer meu modem adsl funcionar no Ubuntu, no Kurumin, no Suse ou
sei lá qual linux pra poder experimentar, mexer, aprender, usar beryl +
aixgl, e quem sabe abandonar o windows 

Enquanto não consigo isso, nem arrumo grana pra comprar um modem ethernet,
vou ter que ficar no XP como SO principal mesmo.
Portanto, essa discussão toda carece, na minha opinião, de utilidade.

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[ubuntu-marketing] Control Center

2007-03-04 Thread Matthew Davis

Hi,

I have been testing out 'Feisty Fawn Herd 4' and so far have found it to be
very good and have no problems. However the other day I updated the system
using the built in synaptic updater and since have lost the control center
feature on the main menu, I thought that this was a very good feature and
would, if possible, like to see it in the final release. Is it at all
possible to turn this feature back on?

Thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more Social?

2007-03-04 Thread Dennis Kaarsemaker
On za, 2007-03-03 at 21:47 +1100, Melissa Draper wrote:

 does anyone know if this has been backported or not, or if it was ever
 suggested for such?

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marking the Feisty release

2007-03-04 Thread alan c
Jono Bacon wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I was involved in some discussions yesterday about coming up with some
 ideas of how to mark the Feisty release in a unique and interesting way.
 The idea is that the community could do something interesting, attention
 grabbing and potentially wacky that will not only show off the community
 but also mark a new Ubuntu release.
 
 There were two distinctive ideas which I think are goers:
 
  * Show Your Ubuntu - encourage our users and community to take a
 picture of themselves holding the Ubuntu logo in variety of different
 situations and scenarios.
 
  * The Big Ubuntu Logo Competition - set a challenge for the community
 to photograph the biggest Ubuntu logo or circle of friends that they
 can. This can involve people constructing logos in a variety of ways, so
 long as the core aspects of the logo are present.
 
 I just wanted to get your thoughts and ideas. :)

A very 'moving' possibility:

starting from a video type of idea (mentioned elsewhere in this
thread), I wondered whether the Ubuntu hands holding picture format
could be capitalised upon for a *multitude* of people - faces
superimposed  - in sequence and sequenced as a sort of simple animation.

If faces were sent in a sort of standard format and size, they could
be superimposed onto the hand holding picture in position for a brief
time (1/2 second?) and sequenced around the circle once before taking
their place in the (very very very long) queue of pictures - ther eare
a lot of ubuntu users!

This publicity web site picture would be in effect a pseudo animated
picture. Each owner of a face (users) would be pleased to see
themselves appear, but we would all have to wait a long time to see a
particular face - the idea being we are legion!

Human and humanity appears because faces will be international global.
And the picture is strongly associated with Ubuntu.

The more I think about this the more I like it. Each user only has to
send a face photo. Central software with the hand holding picture (or
similar) is organised and publicised, and the faces 'queue' is
centrally held and managed.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Control Center

2007-03-04 Thread Matthew East
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:49 +, Matthew Davis wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have been testing out 'Feisty Fawn Herd 4' and so far have found it
 to be very good and have no problems. However the other day I updated
 the system using the built in synaptic updater and since have lost the
 control center feature on the main menu, I thought that this was a
 very good feature and would, if possible, like to see it in the final
 release. Is it at all possible to turn this feature back on? 

It has been removed by default due to significant bugs - it is simply
not yet ready.

You can turn it on by System-Preferences-Main Menu.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more Social?

2007-03-04 Thread Matthew East
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 13:45 -0500, Adam wrote:

 Anyone who shows the ability to write a decent article should be
 allowed to write for the fridge.  If need be posts to the fridge could
 require moderation from a specific group before they were allowed to
 go public.  This would ensure quality control.  Anyone who maintains
 a decent blog is probably a good candidate for writing for the fridge
 in this fashion. 

This isn't something that requires a rethink of the Fridge. It's
already the case.

See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge for how to contribute a story to the
Fridge. Obviously, the Fridge is primarily a news site, so marketing
stories are appropriate and welcome. However, it's not a blog, so in my
view personal opinions are not appropriate.

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[ubuntu-marketing] testing/herd5 - Bug Report - Broken Links

2007-03-04 Thread Andrew Archibald
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5 seems to have been moved from the wiki
without updates to its relative links. For instance it now links to
http://www.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current when it should really be
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current .

Hope this helps.

All the best,
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] testing/herd5 - Bug Report - Broken Links

2007-03-04 Thread Matthew East
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 17:01 +, Andrew Archibald wrote:
 http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd5 seems to have been moved from the wiki
 without updates to its relative links. For instance it now links to
 http://www.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current when it should really be
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current .
 
 Hope this helps.

Please report website bugs at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bugs
- we can keep track of them better, and the people working on the site
are more likely to fix them.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Replace the UWN with something a little more Social?

2007-03-04 Thread Matt Galvin
On 3/1/07, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What do you guys think?

My general feeling is that the UWN was going along just fine for
while. When I first started it it was worked on exclusively on the
wiki and very quickly many people started to help out. It was great.
The delivery methods (wiki, ubuntu-news, fridge, planet) worked well
as this allowed many people to find it easily or get it emailed right
to them. I don't think any issues with the UWN came from how it was
being written or delivered. The people working on it seem to get
really busy at times and it doesn't get done. I stopped having time
for a while and it got picked up by Cory and others which was great to
see. I think the main thing that we need to consider is getting a
group of people who can consistently find time to work on it. When i
still had time I had started a Ubuntu Newsletter team in launchpad and
everything in a effort to start that process. Toward the end of this
month I will likely have a fair bit of free time again and plan to get
involved with UWN again. As much as I don't really like working on UWN
in gobby (it raises the barrier a bit for people just getting started)
I will leave that alone for now since its not really a big deal. At
any rate I don't think that the UWN needs to be changed. It needs to
actually be written each week. Written by a group of people with the
time and dedication (collectively) to actually do it each and every
week. It is a lot of work at times, I know. I think one area where we
can focus some efforts is possibly developing tools to help the UWN
authors aggregate the information that we use in the UWN such as
-changes, -security, -announce, etc... Collecting and monitoring all
the news sources was what I always found the most time consuming. If
we can reduce the amount of work it takes to find the news, we can
focus on creating the UWN itself.

So in summary:

* Do the work on the wiki since this (to me at least) seems easiest
for anyone looking to contribute. (I understand the benefits of Gobby,
although getting people to use it can be a hurdle. If they can just
edit a wiki page that is much easier. This has been my experience at
least.)
* Get a team of people who actually have the time to write it each week.
* Develop tools to aggregate the news sources so it is not so tedious.
* Don't change the current delivery methods. Many people are happy
with the current methods, when the UWN actually gets written. Adding
other delivery methods is something to discuss, but don't get rid of
the current methods.

And as mdke mentioned. Let's not forget why the UWN was started. Its
really meant sort of as a weekly progress report. This idea actually
came from discussions with mdz, Jane and others inside Canonical
including input from sabdlf. We should not loose focus of the original
goals which still stand as far as I am know.

Just my two cents.

I will try and put my money where my mouth is and start helping out
again consistently within the next few weeks as I start getting my
free time back. Who else it willing to work on it consistently? I
think that is the real issue.

The fact that we are even having this discussion show there is
obviously interest in keeping UWN going strong. It doesn't need to be
changed. It needs some elbow grease and love.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] VLOD (Dutch)

2007-03-04 Thread Ismael Demiddel
Op zo, 04-03-2007 te 08:01 +0100, schreef Mattias Campe:
 Mattias Campe schreef: 
  Ismael Demiddel schreef:
 knip /

   Om die pakketten dan te mogen realiseren zullen we toch toelating moeten
   krijgen van de directie van die bepaalde school. Dus als zij niet open
   denken zal het niet lukken. Leerkrachten mogen niet zomaar open source
   gebruiken als zij dat willen. De school moet daarmee akkoord gaan. (maar
   ik denk persoonlijk dat een school daar snel mee akkoord zal gaan als ze
   horen dat het gratis is ;-) )
 
  Niet noodzakelijk hoor. Zo heb ik nog les gegeven in het zevende
  commercieel webverkeer waar ik gekozen had voor Photoshop aan de ene
  kant (pixel), maar Inkscape (vector)aan de andere kant. Ik heb
  daarbij ook nog het ene jaar Blender gegeven en het andere jaar
  moesten ze Linux installeren. Ik heb daarvoor geen toelating moeten
  vragen aan de directie, maar om eerlijk te zijn was het wel zo dat
  de leerlingen in 7ComWeb een eigen laptop hadden, wat het natuurlijk
  makkelijker maakte. In een computerlokaal met computers van school
  kan ik natuurlijk niet zomaar zaken gaan installeren zonder
  toelating van directie. Maar dan nog, voor een practicum van
  wiskunde heb ik gebruik gemaakt van Geogebra, door gewoon gebruik te
  maken van de applet vanop http://www.geogebra.org
 Volgend schooljaar zou ik eens willen proberen om les te geven over
 Word, Excel,... (zoals ik nu doe), maar dan de toetsen te geven in
 OOo. Er is alleen één klein probleem: die pc's zijn nogal traag voor
 OOo. Mocht men er Xubuntu kunnen opdraaien, waarbij men zich kan
 aanmelden op een Windows domein, dan zou dat nog lukken, maar dat
 lijkt me praktisch niet haalbaar (ICT-coördinatie die twee systemen
 zou moeten onderhouden).
Wat ik doe is net als jij (hoe kan het ook anders) maar tijdens mijn les
heb ik van alles een print screen gemaakt in OOo en laat deze dan
vergelijken. Zo zien ze bv. dat de alinea-opmaak binnen word en OOo
Writer nogal gelijk zijn en meestal zelfs uitgebreider. Denk maar aan
het menu voor de teken-opmaak. Alles zit daar in en bij Word moet je het
ene daar zoeken en het andere daar...

Ik vrees dat als je dat zou proberen, de leerlingen nogal snel zouden
gaan klagen bij hun ouders en dat als oorzaak zouden gebruiken als ze
minder goed scoren. Je kan hen laten weten dat er een alternatief is en
als ze hier meer over wensen te weten dat je hen maar al te graag na de
les daarover wil bijleren. Ik kan zeggen van de 50 leerlingen die ik
gehad heb waren er maar 2 leerlingen die iets anders wilden gebruiken.
Het is voor de meeste al moeilijk om over te schakelen naar Mozilla
Firefox, laat staan om hun volledige Office suite te wijzigen.

Wat je wel kan doen als je een goede connectie met het internet hebt. De
office pakketten die Google aanbiedt kenbaar maken. Deze zijn ook gratis
beschikbaar en zeer gebruikersvriendelijk. (lijkt op Word en maakt
zowel .odt als .doc files etc) Momenteel enkel een spreadsheet en een
writer beschikbaar denk ik... dus zo hoef je niets te installeren en heb
je enkel een internetverbinding nodig. (Best wel kabel/adsl-verbinding.)

Op bepaalde scholen zijn de computers zodanig oud en traag dat dit echt
de enige uitweg is. Maar velen kennen dit nog niet. Er zijn enorm veel
informatica en andere leerkrachten die niet verder kijken dan hun neus
lang is. Dus moeten wij dat voor hen doen! ;-) Tegenwoordig kan je ook
zonder uitnodiging een gmail-account aanmaken. Kwestie dat ze hun
hotmail verlaten met een goede reden. ;-)
 
 Groeten
 Mattias
 
 knip /

Iedereen heeft natuurlijk zijn eigen manier van lesgeven en ik heb zeker
respect voor u dat u al moeite wil doen om OOo te integreren. Ik geef
hier nu enkele voorbeelden die ik zou gebruiken, die zijn zeker niet de
beste. Maar als we hier samen rond kunnen werken en ideeën uitwisselen
zullen we vast en zeker tot een goed resultaat komen! (Hiermee bedoel ik
dan de volledige lijst) ;-)

Mvg
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[Ubuntu-be] Request for promotional materials - BxLUG participation to the Wetenschap-expo-sciences 2007

2007-03-04 Thread Laurent Pirotte
Hi,

From the 3 to the 5 of may, the Jeunesses Scientifiques de Belgique asbl 
 Jeugd, Cultuur  Wetenschap wzw will organise a scientific fair where 
about 2000 young people from 5 to 25 years will expose various scientific 
projects. They will be visited by their families, scolar groups, teachers, 
researchers, scool directors  public.

For more info about this event see http://www.jsb.be or http://www.jcweb.be/

At bxLUG, some people are thinking that's a fantastic opportunity to promote 
the use of open-source software in the academic community but also in the 
family sphere. We would like to present the ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu 
distribution.

The JSB request that if we are present, our stand must be attractive é 
interactive. In order to meet these requirement we are looking for :

- promotional material : posters, stickers, ...  (the most important) 
free 
live cds
- people who can animate the stand during the fair (3-5 May, Brussels 
Expo-Heysel  Palis 3)
- hardware (about 5 to 10 PCs)

If you are interested to help us in any way, don't hesitate to contact me.

Regards
 

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] VLOD (Dutch)

2007-03-04 Thread Jan Claeys
On zo, 2007-03-04 at 08:01 +0100, Mattias Campe wrote:
 Er is alleen één klein probleem: die pc's zijn nogal traag voor OOo. 

Wat is traag?
Persoonlijk vind ik vooral dat het traag opstart en relatief traag
documenten opent en opslaat, maar verder heb ik er geen problemen mee
(o.a. OOo gebruikt op een AMD K6-2 met 64 MiB en Win98SE erop).


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fosdem 2007 meeting

2007-03-04 Thread Benoît Plunus
Hello all...
Sorry for this late post, but I was in exam last week...
You can find an other photo of the birthday cake at
http://picasaweb.google.com/plunus.benoit/FOSDEM2007 ;)

2007/2/28, François Schoubben [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Gerry Demaret wrote:
  François Schoubben wrote:
  Wouter Horré a écrit :
  On Tuesday 27 February 2007 16:53, Lionel Dricot wrote:
  Is there no pictures of the wonderful cake with the candle ? :-)
  I have seen one sunday. Can't remember on who's camera I saw it...
  I have one, I think Benoit P. have more.
 
  Do you have an idea of good online photo repository ? Is Flickr the
  best for now ?
  I'll try to upload them tomorrow afternoon...

 It's uploaded, but i'm definitly not an acceptable photograph :-(
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/405745366/

 Does anybody know if picasa WebAlbum is ok too ? Just wondering, it's
 been buy by google so i could use a single account and resign @flickr...

  If you have FOSDEM pictures, could you also send them to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] That way they'll be hosted on the official FOSDEM
  archive at http://fosdem.3ti.be/

 30% Sent... (uplinks is so slow ;-( )
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] VLOD (Dutch)

2007-03-04 Thread Wesley S.

Op 04-03-07 heeft Jan Claeys [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:


On zo, 2007-03-04 at 08:01 +0100, Mattias Campe wrote:
 Er is alleen één klein probleem: die pc's zijn nogal traag voor OOo.

Wat is traag?
Persoonlijk vind ik vooral dat het traag opstart en relatief traag
documenten opent en opslaat, maar verder heb ik er geen problemen mee
(o.a. OOo gebruikt op een AMD K6-2 met 64 MiB en Win98SE erop).



Bij mij is OpenOffice.org ook over het algemeen heel traag. Grafieken maken
duurt erg lang en verbruikt veel RAM. Veel tekst plakken uit een andere bron
is ook traag. Als er veel afbeeldingen in de tekst staan scrollt het
document zelfs erg traag. Maar dat zal gedeeltelijk ook wel aan mijn 256 MB
ram liggen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] VLOD (Dutch)

2007-03-04 Thread Mattias Campe

Ismael Demiddel schreef:

Op zo, 04-03-2007 te 08:01 +0100, schreef Mattias Campe:
  
Mattias Campe schreef: 


Ismael Demiddel schreef:
  

knip /


  

Om die pakketten dan te mogen realiseren zullen we toch toelating moeten
krijgen van de directie van die bepaalde school. Dus als zij niet open
denken zal het niet lukken. Leerkrachten mogen niet zomaar open source
gebruiken als zij dat willen. De school moet daarmee akkoord gaan. (maar
ik denk persoonlijk dat een school daar snel mee akkoord zal gaan als ze
horen dat het gratis is ;-) )
  


Niet noodzakelijk hoor. Zo heb ik nog les gegeven in het zevende
commercieel webverkeer waar ik gekozen had voor Photoshop aan de ene
kant (pixel), maar Inkscape (vector)aan de andere kant. Ik heb
daarbij ook nog het ene jaar Blender gegeven en het andere jaar
moesten ze Linux installeren. Ik heb daarvoor geen toelating moeten
vragen aan de directie, maar om eerlijk te zijn was het wel zo dat
de leerlingen in 7ComWeb een eigen laptop hadden, wat het natuurlijk
makkelijker maakte. In een computerlokaal met computers van school
kan ik natuurlijk niet zomaar zaken gaan installeren zonder
toelating van directie. Maar dan nog, voor een practicum van
wiskunde heb ik gebruik gemaakt van Geogebra, door gewoon gebruik te
maken van de applet vanop http://www.geogebra.org
  

Volgend schooljaar zou ik eens willen proberen om les te geven over
Word, Excel,... (zoals ik nu doe), maar dan de toetsen te geven in
OOo. Er is alleen één klein probleem: die pc's zijn nogal traag voor
OOo. Mocht men er Xubuntu kunnen opdraaien, waarbij men zich kan
aanmelden op een Windows domein, dan zou dat nog lukken, maar dat
lijkt me praktisch niet haalbaar (ICT-coördinatie die twee systemen
zou moeten onderhouden).


Wat ik doe is net als jij (hoe kan het ook anders) maar tijdens mijn les
heb ik van alles een print screen gemaakt in OOo en laat deze dan
vergelijken. Zo zien ze bv. dat de alinea-opmaak binnen word en OOo
Writer nogal gelijk zijn en meestal zelfs uitgebreider. Denk maar aan
het menu voor de teken-opmaak. Alles zit daar in en bij Word moet je het
ene daar zoeken en het andere daar...

Ik vrees dat als je dat zou proberen, de leerlingen nogal snel zouden
gaan klagen bij hun ouders en dat als oorzaak zouden gebruiken als ze
minder goed scoren. Je kan hen laten weten dat er een alternatief is en
als ze hier meer over wensen te weten dat je hen maar al te graag na de
les daarover wil bijleren. Ik kan zeggen van de 50 leerlingen die ik
gehad heb waren er maar 2 leerlingen die iets anders wilden gebruiken.
Het is voor de meeste al moeilijk om over te schakelen naar Mozilla
Firefox, laat staan om hun volledige Office suite te wijzigen.
  
Persoonlijk denk ik dat dit wel meevalt... en er is maar één goede 
manier om zoiets te weten te komen... en dat is het eens uitproberen :)!


knip /

Groeten
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Request for promotional materials - BxLUG participation to the Wetenschap-expo-sciences 2007

2007-03-04 Thread Mark Van den Borre
Hi Laurent,

2007/3/4, Laurent Pirotte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 From the 3 to the 5 of may, the Jeunesses Scientifiques de Belgique asbl
  Jeugd, Cultuur  Wetenschap wzw will organise a scientific fair where
[...]
 At bxLUG, some people are thinking that's a fantastic opportunity to promote
 the use of open-source software in the academic community but also in the
 family sphere. We would like to present the ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu
 distribution.

 The JSB request that if we are present, our stand must be attractive é
 interactive. In order to meet these requirement we are looking for :

 - promotional material : posters,
 stickers, ...  (the most important) free
 live cds
 - hardware (about 5 to 10 PCs)
Annelies, do you think you can get the conference box ready for this
event? Please also take note that we have a 140€ budget if you need to
buy anything.

 - people who can animate the stand during the fair (3-5 May, Brussels
 Expo-Heysel  Palis 3)
I am working those days, but some ubuntu-be.org volunteers will
certainly be available. Contacting the list was a good first step. For
more help finding ubuntu-be.org volunteers, please contact me again
this time next week. I'm in the middle of work on VLOD
(http://vlod.be) work right now.

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[Ubuntu-be] VLOD beurs Internet

2007-03-04 Thread François Cauwe
Hey iedereen,

Op de vlod beurs is enkel internet beschikbaar via telenet hotspots...
Deze kosten 10€ per uur voor niet telenet klanten, dus niet echt
goedkoop.
We vroegen ons af als niemand zo geen Telenet hotspot-vouchers zou
hebben? Of ons kon helpen om goedkoper internet te bezorgen?

Als er iemand is die naar de beurs komt morgen en dat muismatjes in
overschot heeft zou dit ook handig kunnen zijn.

Kan iedereen dat naar de beurs komt ook zijn GSM-nummer naar mij kunnen
doormailen?

Indien je gebruik wilt maken van 1 van de 2 parkeer kaarten bel met op
voorhand zodat we kunnen afspreken voor de parkeerkaarten.

Indien je binnen wilt op de beurs; Bel me ook: 0486 22 60 21
De beurs is dagelijks open van 9 uur tot 17 uur.

Tot dan!
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] VLOD beurs Internet

2007-03-04 Thread Cedric Janssens

http://thomer.com/howtos/nstx.html

Something like that ?

2007/3/4, François Cauwe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hey iedereen,

Op de vlod beurs is enkel internet beschikbaar via telenet hotspots...
Deze kosten 10€ per uur voor niet telenet klanten, dus niet echt
goedkoop.
We vroegen ons af als niemand zo geen Telenet hotspot-vouchers zou
hebben? Of ons kon helpen om goedkoper internet te bezorgen?

Als er iemand is die naar de beurs komt morgen en dat muismatjes in
overschot heeft zou dit ook handig kunnen zijn.

Kan iedereen dat naar de beurs komt ook zijn GSM-nummer naar mij kunnen
doormailen?

Indien je gebruik wilt maken van 1 van de 2 parkeer kaarten bel met op
voorhand zodat we kunnen afspreken voor de parkeerkaarten.

Indien je binnen wilt op de beurs; Bel me ook: 0486 22 60 21
De beurs is dagelijks open van 9 uur tot 17 uur.

Tot dan!
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] VLOD beurs Internet

2007-03-04 Thread Ismael Demiddel
Op zo, 04-03-2007 te 19:03 +0100, schreef François Cauwe:
 Hey iedereen,
 
 Op de vlod beurs is enkel internet beschikbaar via telenet hotspots...
 Deze kosten 10€ per uur voor niet telenet klanten, dus niet echt
 goedkoop.
 We vroegen ons af als niemand zo geen Telenet hotspot-vouchers zou
 hebben? Of ons kon helpen om goedkoper internet te bezorgen?
Ik heb nog enkele hotspotkaarten van telenet liggen die je gedurende een
maand kan gebruiken. Online blijven ze 20uur geldig... GRATIS! ;-) Dus
als we enkel online gaan als het echt nodig is lukt dit!
 
 Als er iemand is die naar de beurs komt morgen en dat muismatjes in
 overschot heeft zou dit ook handig kunnen zijn.
Ik heb nog 2 muismatjes die ik niet meer nodig heb. (het zijn nieuwe)
 
 Kan iedereen dat naar de beurs komt ook zijn GSM-nummer naar mij kunnen
 doormailen?
heb je al...
 
 Indien je gebruik wilt maken van 1 van de 2 parkeer kaarten bel met op
 voorhand zodat we kunnen afspreken voor de parkeerkaarten.
 
 Indien je binnen wilt op de beurs; Bel me ook: 0486 22 60 21
 De beurs is dagelijks open van 9 uur tot 17 uur.
 
 Tot dan!
 François
 
 
Ik zal morgen komen en zal rond 8u50 aan het station in Gent staan. Zijn
er nog die met de trein komen?
 

Tot dan.

Mvg
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Request for promotional materials - BxLUG participation to the Wetenschap-expo-sciences 2007

2007-03-04 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2007/3/4, Mark Van den Borre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  From the 3 to the 5 of may, the Jeunesses Scientifiques de Belgique asbl
   Jeugd, Cultuur  Wetenschap wzw will organise a scientific fair where

The event is bilingual, and we have succeeded in getting officially
invited by the JSB, the main organizers.

The Bxlug is mainly French speaking, and the JSB would really, as we
from Bxlug, appreiciate if our Dutch speaking friends of ubuntu-be
would help and come along to man the booth and give some talks.

  The JSB request that if we are present, our stand must be attractive é
  interactive. In order to meet these requirement we are looking for :
 
  - promotional material : posters,
  stickers, ...  (the most important) free
  live cds
  - hardware (about 5 to 10 PCs)
 Annelies, do you think you can get the conference box ready for this
 event? Please also take note that we have a 140€ budget if you need to
 buy anything.

  - people who can animate the stand during the fair (3-5 May, 
  Brussels
  Expo-Heysel  Palis 3)

 I am working those days, but some ubuntu-be.org volunteers will
 certainly be available. Contacting the list was a good first step. For
 more help finding ubuntu-be.org volunteers, please contact me again
 this time next week. I'm in the middle of work on VLOD
 (http://vlod.be) work right now.

Please write down some summary of the VLOD and gather some good ideas
as the public we want to reach during the Wetenschap-Exposcience will
be : students and their parents, but also teachers (especially
sciences teachers)

I have created and edited https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/WEXS_2007
(based on the VLOD_2007 page)

Thanks

Nicolas

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Request for promotional materials - BxLUG participation to the Wetenschap-expo-sciences 2007

2007-03-04 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
 The event is bilingual, and we have succeeded in getting officially
 invited by the JSB, the main organizers.

 The Bxlug is mainly French speaking, and the JSB would really, as we
 from Bxlug, appreiciate if our Dutch speaking friends of ubuntu-be
 would help and come along to man the booth and give some talks.

I forgot to add that as of today (March 3 2007) more than 1300
students for 250 projects have registered for the fair.

An idea, as they represent active students, usually interested in
technology too, would be to consider to offer, as present 1 CD per
project.

Nicolas

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fosdem 2007 meeting

2007-03-04 Thread dj
Thanks for the photos

Sorry for my cake, he is not nice but he was finished at 01.30 during 
the Friday-Saterday night
 and i can't draw  ;)

it's a 4/4 cake with apple (and somes apple for the round of the logo)

for the next FOSDEM, i will take somes test for draw better


I am very happy of the fosdem (it's my first meeting), sorry for the 
ubuntu-be meeting but i don't have the time to come.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] VLOD beurs Internet

2007-03-04 Thread Jan Claeys
On zo, 2007-03-04 at 19:03 +0100, François Cauwe wrote:
 Op de vlod beurs is enkel internet beschikbaar via telenet hotspots...
 Deze kosten 10€ per uur voor niet telenet klanten, dus niet echt
 goedkoop.
 We vroegen ons af als niemand zo geen Telenet hotspot-vouchers zou
 hebben? Of ons kon helpen om goedkoper internet te bezorgen? 

There is a promotion for 2 months free hotspots for Telenet ExpressNet,
ExpressNet Plus, Mono  Duo customers, and ExpressNet Turbo customers
can always use it for free.


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[Ubuntu-be] Antwerp fair report

2007-03-04 Thread Michel Daggelinckx
We where present at the Dipro fair in Antwerp the weekend of 24-25/02/2007.
We had allot of interested visitors at our booth.
Among them a number of representatives of local computer clubs.
Also a number of German and Dutch vendors where interested in Ubuntu.
We spread all our pressed cd's and around 170 burned cd's.
Thanks to the local computer clubs who helped us to burn cd's.

Donations where sadly very low.

Still it was a very productive fair as we had a few people who where
interested to become an Ubuntu support point.


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Antwerp fair report

2007-03-04 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
2007/3/4, Michel Daggelinckx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 We where present at the Dipro fair in Antwerp the weekend of 24-25/02/2007.

thanks for the report. Maybe it could be added to the wiki.

 We had allot of interested visitors at our booth.
 Among them a number of representatives of local computer clubs.
 Also a number of German and Dutch vendors where interested in Ubuntu.
 We spread all our pressed cd's and around 170 burned cd's.

it is sad that the people who receive these CD do not give back
something, that would show at least that they understand that someone
is paying for the CD + time to press + electricity + ...

 Still it was a very productive fair as we had a few people who where
 interested to become an Ubuntu support point.

Good.

THanks,

Nicolas
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Antwerp fair report

2007-03-04 Thread Ismael Demiddel
Op ma, 05-03-2007 te 00:05 +0100, schreef Nicolas Pettiaux:
 2007/3/4, Michel Daggelinckx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  We where present at the Dipro fair in Antwerp the weekend of 24-25/02/2007.
 
 thanks for the report. Maybe it could be added to the wiki.
 
  We had allot of interested visitors at our booth.
  Among them a number of representatives of local computer clubs.
  Also a number of German and Dutch vendors where interested in Ubuntu.
  We spread all our pressed cd's and around 170 burned cd's.
 
 it is sad that the people who receive these CD do not give back
 something, that would show at least that they understand that someone
 is paying for the CD + time to press + electricity + ...

Last time in Ghent I told almost everybody that we are doing this for
free and we need support. (and other things to get there mind to
donating like We also have to pay everything ...) and then there were a
lot of people who gave money. I guess we had around € 30. 

Ok we want the ubuntu spirit to grow, but I work for a promotion bureau
and if you compare a dipro with this I must say there aren't much
differences. I don't say people are good or bad. But when I give coca
cola for free, there aren't a lot of people who think about giving me
money.

You can say it's totally different and I can't compare this, but then
think again and think what an effort we do in persuading these people to
use Ubuntu. We need to stress more the fact that we are a non profit
organisation and we that we exist of volunteers who are giving up some
free time to explain how Ubuntu works and what it is.

And tell me who wouldn't give a symbolic euro for software as good as
Ubuntu? I doesn't have to be a symbolic euro, just ask them to donate to
support our goals. (I wonder who would dare to throw in €0,01 ?)
 
  Still it was a very productive fair as we had a few people who where
  interested to become an Ubuntu support point.
 
 Good.
 
 THanks,
 
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Re: test-тест

2007-03-04 Thread Schmuck Meuller

ага
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Re: test-тест

2007-03-04 Thread Max 'Decoy' Filenko
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 12:16 +0300, Vladimir V. Bychkov wrote:
 Кстати, какие англоязычные эхомаилы по убунте посоветуете там может
 закрытые для постинга, где тока разработчики ньюсы постят?
Приветствую!
Я читаю ubuntu-security-announce, куда пишут редко, но метко, в основном
парни из canonical.


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Re: test-тест

2007-03-04 Thread Arturs Jansons

Gmail online :)

04.03.07, Vladimir V. Bychkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] написал(а):


Кстати, какие англоязычные эхомаилы по убунте посоветуете там может
закрытые для постинга, где тока разработчики ньюсы постят?


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Установка KUbntu v.6.10

2007-03-04 Thread V . V . Popov
На машине с SATA пробовал установить 6.10 с DVD от lafox.net
на логический диск с установленной год назад KUbntu v.5.10.
При определении точек монтирования, инсталяция зацикливается
на сообщении Не указан раздел для root. Ни у кого не возникала
подобная проблема? Поделитесь решением!





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Re: Проблемы с устано вкой Ubuntu 6.06, 6.10

2007-03-04 Thread Maxim Ushakov
Такая проблема возникала при наличии ОЗУ менее 256 мегабайт.
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Re: accès à un partage samba en l dc

2007-03-04 Thread MAHORU Tsunemi
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Ouattara Oumar Aziz a écrit :
 laborde stephane a écrit :
 Salut,

 J'ai partagé des dossiers sur une machine sous windows XP. Pour ça, je 
 suis passé par Raccourcis - Se connecter à un serveur.
 Une icône a été créée sur le bureau. C'est beau et tout et tout mais je 
 trouve pas où le répertoire en question est monté. Avec un terminal, je 
 n'arrive pas à le trouver...

 Quelqu'un sait où je dois le chercher ?

 
 Il n'est pas monté, le dossier que tu vois sur le bureau n'est qu'une 
 représentation de la connection que tu établies. Je trouve que le fait 
 que le dossier ne se monte pas , comme SMB4K le fait est un manque énorme.

il faut utiliser smbfs

et comment, c'est expliquer en tapant smbfs je crois :)

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Re: accès à un partage samba en l dc

2007-03-04 Thread Ouattara Oumar Aziz
MAHORU Tsunemi a écrit :
 Ouattara Oumar Aziz a écrit :
 laborde stephane a écrit :
 Salut,

 J'ai partagé des dossiers sur une machine sous windows XP. Pour ça, je 
 suis passé par Raccourcis - Se connecter à un serveur.
 Une icône a été créée sur le bureau. C'est beau et tout et tout mais je 
 trouve pas où le répertoire en question est monté. Avec un terminal, je 
 n'arrive pas à le trouver...

 Quelqu'un sait où je dois le chercher ?

 Il n'est pas monté, le dossier que tu vois sur le bureau n'est qu'une 
 représentation de la connection que tu établies. Je trouve que le fait 
 que le dossier ne se monte pas , comme SMB4K le fait est un manque énorme.
 
 il faut utiliser smbfs
 
 et comment, c'est expliquer en tapant smbfs je crois :)
 

ça, je sais que ça existe et c'est ce que SMB4K utilise lors des
montages de partages dans des dossiers. Seulement Gnome n'intègre pas
cette capacité. C'est le manque dont je parlais .


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Re: configuration écran

2007-03-04 Thread Michel D'HOOGE
On Tuesday 27 February 2007 11:23, Boby K wrote:
 Je suis mal-voyant et utilise la combinaison de touche Alt-ctrl +/- sur
 mon PC ubuntu pour zoomer l'écran.
Tout est dans le man(uel) de xorg.conf. Par défaut (depuis maintenant un 
certain temps), cette option est maintenant désactivée dans Ubuntu... Et si 
mes souvenirs sont bons, je crois avoir réussi une fois à la réactiver.

Tu peux essayer d'ajouter la ligne suivante dans la section ServerLayout
  Option DontZoom  Off

Puis redémarrer le serveur X - quitter la session devrait suffire.

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[Bug 84616] Re: Low Audio Volume/other audio problems with Lenovo 3000 C200

2007-03-04 Thread Denes Kiss
I have the same laptop with no sound. At me even the acpi=ht does not help. The 
chip is Realtek ID 862. (Intel HDA compatible).
I tried: Ubuntu 6.06, 610, SUSE 0.2.
The alsamixer showes me only a single MASTER chanel.

I compiled the newest ALSA and the supported linux driver from Realtek. 
(Unfortunatelly the chip 862 is not found in the supported list.)
After the compilation the alsamixer showed the MASTER and PCM
chanels. But the sound does not work. (The hardware is good, because I tested 
it XP.)
Has anybody any idea, what to try yet?
Denes

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[Bug 89586] Re: partitioning fails during install (herd 5 kub alt)

2007-03-04 Thread Thomas Hotz
** Changed in: Ubuntu
   Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed

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[Bug 79490] Re: Problems with partitioning on Feisty (alternate iso)

2007-03-04 Thread sandeepss
I am seeing a similar issue in Xubuntu Herd 5. We had acyually filed a separate 
bug for it 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/89586

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[Bug 57656] Re: kppp produces an error message on startup (no /etc/resolv.conf found)

2007-03-04 Thread Paul Dufresne
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 16269
   KPPP fails to connect.

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[Bug 3498] Re: Curses box uses wrong characters when X cannot start

2007-03-04 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Still here in Feisty.

Version Information:
Ubuntu Feisty (Herd 5)
console-tools 0.2.3dbs-65ubuntu3

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[Bug 53953] Re: change 'acerhk' to use 'autowlan=1' by default

2007-03-04 Thread damagedspline
acerhk is still maintained at 
http://freshmeat.net/projects/acerhk/?branch_id=30497
current version is 0.5.35.

I've made a patch against 0.5.35 (attached) with better support for my laptop:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /var/lib/acpi-support/*-*
R01-A1I
FUJITSU SIEMENS
AMILO A1650G
-1

I've also sent a mail to acerhk's maintainer to add my patch.
I can confirm that with my patch, autowlan=1 enables/disables the wireless led 
when the button is pushed.

** Attachment added: fsca16xx.patch
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/6609159/fsca16xx.patch

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[Bug 41462] Re: Kubuntu 6.06 missing resolv.conf and kppp-options noauth

2007-03-04 Thread Paul Dufresne
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 36655 ***

** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 16269
   KPPP fails to connect.

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 36655
   pppd dies on connection

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[Bug 89616] No sound

2007-03-04 Thread Helmuth Supik
Public bug reported:

Hallo,
 
 first of all- thank You for Ubuntu !!!
 
 I have no sound.
 
 sound from Knoppix 4.0 Live CD is OK´
 sound from Ubuntu 7.0 Live CD exists but with strong scratching
 sound from Ubuntu 7.0 HD (latest updates) installation: no sound
 
 therefore i must run XP
 :-(( but i´ m sure, You will solve the problem.

 Thank You!

pl, Helmuth Supik

** Affects: Ubuntu
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 41462] Re: Kubuntu 6.06 missing resolv.conf and kppp-options noauth

2007-03-04 Thread Paul Dufresne
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 36655 ***

It help a lot to separate each thing in different bug reports.
Missing resolv.conf is a different bug than noauth option.
Made it a duplicate of bug #36655 because it is clean.
I just made an other bug about missing resolv.conf to
reappear by removing it as a dup of noauth bug. So I
know this bug about resolv.conf still exist somewhere.

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[Bug 16269] Re: KPPP fails to connect.

2007-03-04 Thread Paul Dufresne
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 36655 ***

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 36655
   pppd dies on connection

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[Bug 74733] Re: Feisty install under VMware doesn't detect hard disk

2007-03-04 Thread Mark Reitblatt
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to duplicate the issue or find out if the
issue was still experienced under Herd 2/4. If you find this problem
still exists, please reopen.

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Mark Reitblatt
   Status: Needs Info = Rejected

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[Bug 89616] Re: No sound

2007-03-04 Thread Daniel T Chen
Please attach the information requested from
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems

** Changed in: Ubuntu
Sourcepackagename: None = linux-source-2.6.20
   Importance: Undecided = Low
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Daniel T Chen
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[Bug 77952] Re: cancelling software update install causes a rescan and forgets my selection

2007-03-04 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Still here in Feisty:

Version Information:
Ubuntu Feisty (Herd 5)
update-manager 0.57.8

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[Bug 89408] Re: gcj-dbtool segfaults on hppa-linux

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gcj-4.1 (Debian)
   Status: Unknown = Confirmed

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[Bug 89403] Re: gij bus errors on hppa-linux

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gcj-4.1 (Debian)
   Status: Unknown = Confirmed

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[Bug 39669] Re: Sleep hybernate don't work with nvidia-glx-legacy on nVIDIA GeForce2 Go

2007-03-04 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
OK both sleep and hibernate actually work with my GeForce 1 with the
nvidia-glx-legacy drivers on Edgy providing I use the built in nvidia
agpgart and blacklist the default agpgart. See this page for details:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend

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[Bug 89618] Sayng no to wanna apply changes? in partitioner leads to no-exit message box

2007-03-04 Thread MikhailGusarov
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: debian-installer

Installing ubuntu herd5 alternate (qemu 0.8.2, 4G disk image, if this
matters)

Partitioning step.

Partitioning method - Guided - use entire disk and set up LVM
Select disk to partition - hda
Write the changes to disks and configure LVM? - No

You've trapped in No root file system is defined dialog box. Both Go
back and Continue buttons return you back to this dialog box again.

** Affects: debian-installer (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 88815] Re: Sluggish rendering since xorg 7.2 update

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Confirmed

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Sluggish rendering since xorg 7.2 update
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[Bug 63551] Re: X.org doesn't detect widescreen resolution

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Rejected

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[Bug 89408] Re: gcj-dbtool segfaults on hppa-linux

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gcc (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Unconfirmed

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[Bug 89403] Re: gij bus errors on hppa-linux

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gcc (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Unconfirmed

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[Bug 89421] Re: [feisty] run button's text and icon not centered in run application dialog

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-panel (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Unconfirmed

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[feisty] run button's text and icon not centered in run application dialog
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[Bug 89352] Re: open file dialog crashes when you have moved images out of the last directory files were opened from (gtk_file_info_render_icon)

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gtk (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Confirmed

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files were opened from (gtk_file_info_render_icon)
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[Bug 87299] Re: Multimedia keys not working in Feisty

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: banshee (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Unconfirmed

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[Bug 84010] Re: [apport] trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV in tracker_db_index_file()

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: tracker (upstream)
   Status: Unconfirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 67380] Re: need a restart after enabling library watching to get it used

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: rhythmbox (upstream)
   Status: Unconfirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 68488] Re: Applying saved searches does not update message list

2007-03-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: evolution (upstream)
   Status: Unconfirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 43944] Re: Resuming (from suspended state) hangs X / keyboard

2007-03-04 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
One further note: since you are using the nvidia binary drivers you may
want to use the nvidia agpgart. Details about how to try this are on
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend

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[Bug 63551] Re: X.org doesn't detect widescreen resolution

2007-03-04 Thread Timo Aaltonen
** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: xorg = xresprobe

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