Re: building the package to alter the packaging
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 12:05 +0100, Jonathan Riddell wrote: In traditional packaging I would often build the package with debuild then make some changes based on the compile (edit .install files, add .symbols files etc) then check it works with debuild -nc then tidy up with debuild -S. Is there an equivalent in UDD with bzr-builddeb? If I run bzr builddeb it will finish the compile and clean the build tree so I don't get a chance to look at the resulting tree. One messy way is to alter the changelog so it doesn't have my e-mail in it then it will complain that it can't sign the result and keep the build tree around. I can then edit that, use debuild -nc, clean it with debuild -S and copy the result back, but it's not very elegant. My guess is that something like bzr builddeb -- -nc will leave the build directory in ../build-area around for inspection. You can then manually remove it afterwards. Cheers, Jelmer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
[ubuntu-in] Rar archive bigger than the file
Just received a .rar file (rar archive) that turned out to be bigger than the pdf file contained in it. Any one has any ideas why or how it could be. Only one file was in it. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Rar archive bigger than the file
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: Just received a .rar file (rar archive) that turned out to be bigger than the pdf file contained in it. Any one has any ideas why or how it could be. Only one file was in it. Rar will add it's own overhead information. So, if the amount of data compressed rar overhead then the filesize will become bigger than the original file. That's one possibility. -- With Regards, Mehul Ved -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Rar archive bigger than the file
I have not looked at rar format yet, wondering rar just archives or it does compression as well --Original Message-- From: Mehul Ved Sender: ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com To: Ubuntu India Local Community ReplyTo: Ubuntu India Local Community Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Rar archive bigger than the file Sent: Jul 29, 2011 22:23 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: Just received a .rar file (rar archive) that turned out to be bigger than the pdf file contained in it. Any one has any ideas why or how it could be. Only one file was in it. Rar will add it's own overhead information. So, if the amount of data compressed rar overhead then the filesize will become bigger than the original file. That's one possibility. -- With Regards, Mehul Ved -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Aide pour partitionnement; réinstaller 10.10 en écrasant 11.04 sur Thinkpad : RÉSOLU ou presque
Bonjour Gérard! non, ce n'est pas ce que j'aurais préconisé au départ, ça aurait été de manipuler la 11.04 pour la rendre comme il désirait avec gnome2 et ses menus et probablement compiz et ses effets... bonne journée! :) Steve 2011/7/29 Gérard Talbot kubu...@gtalbot.org Le Ven 29 juillet 2011 9:11, Steve Nadeau a écrit : En ayant le home séparé, il est toujours assez simple d'installer une nouvelle version le temps venu. Steve, n'est-ce pas ce que Louis a fait? Je pose la question parce que je ne suis pas expérimenté avec le partitionnement. Dans l'ordre disque, la taille, le format et le point de montage des partitions sont les suivants : /dev/sda1 : primaire; NTFS; 20Go ; non-monté /dev/sda2 : étendue ; 80Go /dev/sda5 : logique; Ext4; 19Go ; point de montage : / et devant loger les répertoires du système. /dev/sda6 : logique; type ou «format» LinuxSwap ; 2,7Go /dev/sda7 : logique; Ext4 ; point de montage : /Home et logant les fichiers User; 58Go Gérard -- Tous les bogues (ou presque) des navigateurs web: http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/ Contributions to the CSS 2.1 test suite http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/css21testsuite/ Guide d'utilisateur de KompoZer http://www.gtalbot.org/NvuSection/GuideUtilisateurNvu/GuideNvuSection1.html -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Aide pour partitionnement; réinstaller 10.10 en écrasant 11.04 sur Thinkpad : RÉSOLU ou presque
Le 2011-07-28 18:21, Louis Bourque a écrit : [...] Voici cette question : Le Home contient deux dossiers visibles: .ecryptfs (1 objet), et Louis (80 objets, mais 53 objets visibles, soit mes dossiers personnels). Ces deux dossiers visibles étant tous deux occupés à 50% de leur capacité OU occupant chacun 50% du home. Je retiens la seconde interprétation. Dans ce premier dossier .ecryptfs se trouve un second dossier Louis (en occupant la totalité); ce second Louis contient deux dossier, un second .encrypts et un .Private. Ce dossier .Private contiendrait 26Go et 80 objets, tout comme le dossier Louis mentionné au niveau supérieur. Est-ce donc dire que j'ai deux répertoires contenant les mêmes effets, l'un «Louis» et l'autre «Private»? En plus d'une faille de sécurité dans l'encryptage de mon répertoire Home? L'information offerte par l'Analyseur d'utilisation du disque Ubuntu me semble contradictoire. L'Analyseur indique en entête que 29.1 Go du système de fichier accomodant 70.9 Go est occupé, laissant libre 41,8 Go. Ce qui suggère qu'un seul dossier Home contient des données personnelles. Par contre, lorsque je demande la représentation visuelle du disque (anneaux et segments), le dit dossier «Private» et le dossier «Louis» de niveau supérieur semblent contenir une quantité similaire de données mais en des secteurs différents (se recouvrant partiellement), et représentés par des couleurs différentes. Il s'agit du fonctionnement de l'encryption du répertoire personnel. Le répertoire /home/Louis est en fait un répertoire virtuel, monté sur cet emplacement qui est autrement vide (sauf pour un répertoire .private et des scripts qui permettent le montage en ligne de commande). Le répertoire .ecryptfs sous /home et son contenu sous louis contiens les véritables données encryptées. C'est ce qui explique le dédoublement des données. Pour le navigateur de fichiers, tout semble véritablement en place, mais en vérité seul /home/.ecryptfs contient vraiment les données. On peut voir le résultat avec les commandes mount et df -h, soit la liste des points de montage et la commande permettant d'afficher l'espace disponible et utilisé par point de montage. J'espère que ca répond à vos questions. N'hésitez pas à demander plus de précisions si nécessaire :) @+ -- Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com Freenode: cyphermox, Jabber: mathieu...@gmail.com 4096R/EE018C93 1967 8F7D 03A1 8F38 732E FF82 C126 33E1 EE01 8C93 -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On 29/07/11 00:12, Avi Greenbury wrote: alan c wrote: Mat It has been said *clearly* what went wrong! The chap on the [irc] who's responded to my plea for help has just given me technical jargon answers I simply don't understand and he's putting me off Ubuntu. That's not clear at all. All we know is that at some point the meaning of some answer that was given in response to some question wasn't understood by the asker. There's precisely nothing that can be done with that 'information'. Ok, but it is clear to my eyes. Perhaps I just have a lot more close up contact with very non techie Ubuntu, and formerly, Windows, users. Geek speak is utterly acceptable when appropriate. However, the inappropriate recipient will not be able to explain. The boundary of where 'technical jargon' begins is difficult to predict. We are lucky even to get feedback at this level from this situation. If 'we' caused this situation initially, then 'we' have a mindset which is probably incompatible with answers which are purely non technical - which are many times more time consuming and personalised than a normal IRC exchange. In this case 1) the recipient heard the 'answers' but rejected them from lack of understanding. It is easy to guess that the helper was not really expecting to approach the situation as if the answers may not be understood at all, to such an extent to cause cut off of contact. The recipient did not (obviously) want to declare lack of understanding, and gave up. There may be a procedural way to help to avoid this, but the range of level of support from location of the 'any key' through to fluent terminal use is vast. 2) The recipient projected, perceived, *active* 'harm' from the helper. 'He is putting me off Ubuntu'. An unspoken issue is that the *perception* is that the helper does not want the user to use Ubuntu, or the user has been tested and has failed. Close to 'I want to use Ubuntu but he is turning me away'. These type of situations are very difficult indeed to manage using IRC. Although IRC is pure magic for some exchanges and problems, it is has a robotic feel and impersonal for strangers (who may not be able to know nor visualise the helper and the unselfish motivation and effort). To discover being in an apparently alien landscape is uncomfortable, and to then admit in alienspeak, that one is truly helpless and vulnerable, (read 'unworthy') is not easy , I think, unlikely. My immediate reaction is to think of prompting phone contact, or having it as an option somehow. In this case the user reverted to direct personal contact with a person already known to them, to confide in. It can be taken that the user did not 'know' the IRC helper, and could not confide. Or at least, they felt that way. There is a suggestion in the thread that the technical problem may not be an easy one. For this to be factored in, the IRC exchange needs to feel personalised enough for the recipient to be prepared to get bad news, or be facing a possibly arduous situation. This might be challenging within telephone support, and also certainly a challenge for IRC. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 09:12 +0100, alan c wrote: My immediate reaction is to think of prompting phone contact, or having it as an option somehow. In this case the user reverted to direct personal contact with a person already known to them, to confide in. It can be taken that the user did not 'know' the IRC helper, and could not confide. Or at least, they felt that way. My only experience of internet chat before Ubuntu was that AIM stuff that my children loved but I hated - mainly because it flooded with weird strangers. I was very nervous when I started using IRC because of this, and I was also worried that I could do something wrong (don't ask me what!) and get told off (don't ask me why, or by whom!) I mainly used the forums, and always the absolute beginners - there I felt that I could ask any question, no matter how basic, and not be worried about showing my ignorance. Do we have an Ubuntu newcomers IRC channel that would be more appropriate? But I always felt IRC wasn't really the place to ask about problems - the person with the answer may not be online, and a question would pretty quickly scroll off the screen. In a forum it's there to be answered whenever the experts called in. Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 09:12 +0100, alan c wrote: and gave up. There may be a procedural way to help to avoid this, but the range of level of support from location of the 'any key' through to fluent terminal use is vast. I was very impressed by the support from Virgin broadband. I had upgraded my non-techie sister to Ubuntu and the ancient USB modem was unsupported. Virgin kindly agreed to sent a wi-fi router FOC. They sent a letter with it with setting up instructions, but we couldn't connect. The support person I spoke to was fantastic. He started giving very clear instructions in a totally non-technical and very slow way. As soon as he realised I was a bit more technical, he switched modes. I'll have to get on IRC and lurk and see if I can emulated this approach. Maybe I could write a procedure. Oh, the problem turned out to be that Virgin had written the wrong password in their letter: the correct one was the old one that we all knew. Should have had the sense to try it. And Virgin NEVER said 'we don't support Linux' Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] HLUG Open Source Schools Project
Hi I wanted to let you know what is happening here in Herefordshire. As a part of ISFD we are running an Open Source Schools Project - partially inspired by discussions here on education and open source. Herefordshire LUG contacted schools across the county and we now have around 7 schools primary, junior and secondary who are interested in taking part. We are creating a lubuntu based distro called tuxedu http://www.tuxedu.org.uk/ for use in primary schools - this is designed to run live but is locked down so it is a completely safe and secure environment. We also intend to produce a secondary version that does allow internet access. Because it is based on lubuntu it is lightweight and will run on older less high spec machines. Following our HLUG meeting on weds we now have support from the ICT consultants at the council who organise ICT across the county's schools - they are introducing us to the schools network techs - so that we can explain our project and ensure that they will allow us access to run tuxedu on the schools networks. We intend to do workshops with students at the schools and also run a session with teachers and possibly interested parents at each school - this will all take place in the autumn term. If it is successful we may be able to expand the project to other schools in the county It is a very exciting project and our hope is that it can be used as a base for similar projects in other areas. Sarah -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On 29/07/11 09:33, Dianne Reuby wrote: My only experience of internet chat before Ubuntu was that AIM stuff that my children loved but I hated - mainly because it flooded with weird strangers. I was very nervous when I started using IRC because of this, and I was also worried that I could do something wrong (don't ask me what!) and get told off (don't ask me why, or by whom!) I mainly used the forums, and always the absolute beginners - there I felt that I could ask any question, no matter how basic, and not be worried about showing my ignorance. Our IRC channel can and should be like that too (and I actually think it is) Do we have an Ubuntu newcomers IRC channel that would be more appropriate? there is an ubuntu beginners channel it is in fact #ubuntu-beginners, in the topic of that channel is a link to this rather nice guide on asking smart questions: http://is.gd/nmyFqV But I always felt IRC wasn't really the place to ask about problems - the person with the answer may not be online, and a question would pretty quickly scroll off the screen. In a forum it's there to be answered whenever the experts called in. IRC works well if you ask questions at a reasonable time of day, and hang about for a while. Many people have an IRC client connected 24/7 but sometimes we do see in the logs people connect at 3:30am ask a question, complain 2 minutes later that nobody is responding, then disconnect! The #ubuntu channel does scroll past very fast but there are a lot of people there to answer questions. Personally it makes my head spin. The #ubuntu-uk channel is much slower, and we have time to be friendly - in #ubuntu anything that is off-topic gets silenced because it gets in the way of other people asking support questions. I searched the logs for the last three months of #ubuntu-uk for the word hub and I couldn't find anything that seems related to this incident so I am really keen to find out more about what happened. askubuntu.com can also be a good place to get an answer to a question, but sometimes what you want can't be expressed in the form of a question. There are loads of communication mediums and some are more comfortable than others for different people, this is fine, but they should all be friendly and respectful. Dianne -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 09:33 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 09:12 +0100, alan c wrote: My immediate reaction is to think of prompting phone contact, or having it as an option somehow. In this case the user reverted to direct personal contact with a person already known to them, to confide in. It can be taken that the user did not 'know' the IRC helper, and could not confide. Or at least, they felt that way. My only experience of internet chat before Ubuntu was that AIM stuff that my children loved but I hated - mainly because it flooded with weird strangers. I was very nervous when I started using IRC because of this, and I was also worried that I could do something wrong (don't ask me what!) and get told off (don't ask me why, or by whom!) I mainly used the forums, and always the absolute beginners - there I felt that I could ask any question, no matter how basic, and not be worried about showing my ignorance. Do we have an Ubuntu newcomers IRC channel that would be more appropriate? But I always felt IRC wasn't really the place to ask about problems - the person with the answer may not be online, and a question would pretty quickly scroll off the screen. In a forum it's there to be answered whenever the experts called in. Dianne It does seem that Ubuntu is unprepared to meet the support needs of the type of general, every day user that it wants (I assume) to attract. If we were a commercial organisation, all the support workers would be trained and there would be a common approach. Maybe it is time Ubuntu thought a bit more about how support is given through the community. Perhaps even devise an on line training course. Looking at the Ubuntu support page, the first port of call given for support is Launchpad Answers, where I hang out giving support for Libre/OpenOffice. I prefer it to IRC because I can give a more rounded and considered answer. IRC only allows short answers so you are bound to get more of the 'sudo apt-get install whatnot' type replies which baffle the non-tech users. Even in Launchpad you still get a lot of this type of answer or a quick link to a very technical forum post. I even find the new Ask Ubuntu to be pitched at a high technical level. But, perhaps this is the way it seems as, like in many forums and IRC, all manner of issues are put into the same pot whereas Launchpad tries to separate out queries by package, and LO/OOo queries tend to be quite simple. These are my thoughts. Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
Tony Pursell wrote: It does seem that Ubuntu is unprepared to meet the support needs of the type of general, every day user that it wants (I assume) to attract. If we were a commercial organisation, all the support workers would be trained and there would be a common approach. Canonical, the commercial organisation, is configured so. I don't think you'll ever have a provided-in-free-time sort of support arrangement that matches up to the sorts of things that that the paid for ones do in terms of maintaining a low level of technical understanding - I'm generally of the opinion that a difficult answer that might need research is better than no answer at all, and that's what I'll provide if I've not got the time to explain the meaning. And sometimes you *need* some level of technical interference becasue, well, that's what's being asked for by someone who needs to compile a module for their audio chipset or whatever. In which case, IRC is not the place to explain the hows and whys, it's a place to post a link to where somebody has already published such. Maybe it is time Ubuntu thought a bit more about how support is given through the community. Perhaps even devise an on line training course. There is one: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training/course-types Looking at the Ubuntu support page, the first port of call given for support is Launchpad Answers, where I hang out giving support for Libre/OpenOffice. I prefer it to IRC because I can give a more rounded and considered answer. I find Ubuntu Answers to have a horrendous UI. In my experience, most searches for ubuntu-related problems turn up links to posts on ubuntuforums.com, so I tend to assume that's the more, er, canonical place for support. It's also got a navigable interface, which is nice. are bound to get more of the 'sudo apt-get install whatnot' type replies which baffle the non-tech users. I don't think this is a reson to stop giving such answers. I think, perhaps, we just need a page to explain all the 'simple' things that the users might come across (like these instructions) that the visitors can be linked to. Repeatedly re-explaining the basics of everything is not something that's going to happen. Even in Launchpad you still get a lot of this type of answer or a quick link to a very technical forum post. I even find the new Ask Ubuntu to be pitched at a high technical level. But, perhaps this is the way it seems as, like in many forums and IRC, all manner of issues are put into the same pot whereas Launchpad tries to separate out queries by package, and LO/OOo queries tend to be quite simple. It's support provided by technical people in their spare time. It's likely to be techincal because that's their default position, and they're not trained to assume that everybody doesn't know what they do. Rather than try to make all the answers easy to understand, I think it'd be better to concoct some way to make it such that the askers feel that they are allowed to (or should) ask for clarification. Or, perhaps rather, make it really easy to find this clarification already extant. If we just mandate that all the answers should be aimed at non-technical users, we risk alienating the more technical people who provide those answers. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
Hi Alan, While it is true the general issue has been stated, in order to properly assess what that specific user may see as technical and not technical really depends on the person. If we can get together some examples of where we have gone wrong we can assess each one and figure out how best to treat that kind of situation in the future. I'm more than happy to try and do a session at some point with interested peeps on how to deal with different levels.of technical people, but before we can quantify where the issue is we can't make that decision properly. I'm not saying there isn't a problem, I'm asking for more.information to properly assess how we can improve this situation. If it didn't come across that way I apllogise. Thanks, Matt Daubney On Jul 28, 2011 11:44 PM, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Mat It has been said *clearly* what went wrong! The chap on the [irc] who's responded to my plea for help has just given me technical jargon answers I simply don't understand and he's putting me off Ubuntu. The subject did not 'understand'. You will not see that from logs, but you will get it, and *have* got if from their own quote. FWIW I am a ferociously active supporter of Ubuntu and currently also paid up in FSF, but I have only four times used irc seriously, only once every two years on average. I use ubuntuforums very frequently, giving and receiving help (more than 1000 posts). I have a number of friends who I 'administer' ubuntu for and not a single one of them is remotely interested nor suited even to use the forums let alone irc. If they need help I use the phone or skype (spit) or teamviewer (spit). At this level I am helping users who are one step away from the 'Any key' situation. Which is ok with me, but this can get unrealistic on IRC. These are 'novice' users. But some have been using Ubuntu for three years now. I think that IRC is a quite difficult medium for beginners. And me (7 years). I also think that support of your average jack and jill user is a fairly unusual and demanding skill, and not all Ubuntu helpers possess this. On 27/07/11 12:56, Matthew Daubney wrote: Hi Paula, I don't suppose you know this persons irc nick? We can have a look in the logs and see where we went wrong. Thanks, Matt Daubney On Jul 27, 2011 12:41 PM, Paula Graham pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote: On 24/07/11 18:19, Alan Bell wrote: On 24/07/11 10:58, a.hun...@visuality-group.co.uk wrote: Hi! I'm new to all this, but been reading the discussions coming in through the emails. Is it just me, or is there some sort of petty argument going on? Am I reading it wrong? Love to all! Alex. Welcome Alex, there is indeed a long email conversation going on, I assume you are referring to the Re: [ubuntu-uk] Um, why am I blocked from #ubuntu-uk thread which actually isn't about anyone specific being blocked from the channel, it was accidentally set to only allow registered users for a few hours and is back to open access now. We generally try to keep this mailing list and the IRC channel polite and constructive at all times. This is community support, which means we all help each other, there is no dividing line between those helping and those needing help with an issue, and we all have access to the same information. Sometimes there is no immediate solution to a problem, which can cause frustration from time to time, but we do try to point people in the right direction to find a solution to their problem. Alan. Apropos - and sorry, don't want to whinge to people who're freely giving their time - but thought you'd want to know - I just got an email from one of the people we taught last week to come to the IRC channel for help because BT can't help her as they don't support Linux. This is what she said (and by forum, she means IRC): The chap on the Ubuntu forum who's responded to my plea for help has just given me technical jargon answers I simply don't understand and he's putting me off Ubuntu. This woman is by no means an idiot but she's left a larger organisation, where she had tech support, to start her own non-profit and now has to DIY - she was pretty enthusiastic about Ubuntu at the session we did and the welcome she got on IRC at the session was great - so she has gone ahead and installed her own laptop. But she's bringing the laptop back here for a Fossbox volunteer to look at. It sounds like it's a simple problem with wifi on a BT hub - but she has no prior understanding of networks so she needs simple step-by-step support. This isn't the first time someone boomerangs off Ubuntu-UK back to Fossbox wailing that they don't understand what's been said to them. I know it's often frustrating having to explain the most basic things to people and translate to plain English, but that's what it takes to get beyond the techie-sphere with Ubuntu . . . Again, don't want to carp about the fantastic work done here - I don't know if
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 11:31 +0100, Avi Greenbury wrote: Tony Pursell wrote: It does seem that Ubuntu is unprepared to meet the support needs of the type of general, every day user that it wants (I assume) to attract. If we were a commercial organisation, all the support workers would be trained and there would be a common approach. Canonical, the commercial organisation, is configured so. I don't think you'll ever have a provided-in-free-time sort of support arrangement that matches up to the sorts of things that that the paid for ones do in terms of maintaining a low level of technical But this doesn't mean we shouldn't try to improve the level of free support. understanding - I'm generally of the opinion that a difficult answer that might need research is better than no answer at all, and that's what I'll provide if I've not got the time to explain the meaning. But isn't this the way the sort of problem that started this thread arose? And sometimes you *need* some level of technical interference becasue, well, that's what's being asked for by someone who needs to compile a module for their audio chipset or whatever. In which case, IRC is not the place to explain the hows and whys, it's a place to post a link to where somebody has already published such. Agreed. If someone asks for support to compile something, then the explain how, but don't just wade in and say 'compile this' if you don't yet know the user's level of expertise. Maybe it is time Ubuntu thought a bit more about how support is given through the community. Perhaps even devise an on line training course. There is one: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training/course-types You cannot expect volunteers to pay for training. Looking at the Ubuntu support page, the first port of call given for support is Launchpad Answers, where I hang out giving support for Libre/OpenOffice. I prefer it to IRC because I can give a more rounded and considered answer. I find Ubuntu Answers to have a horrendous UI. In my experience, most searches for ubuntu-related problems turn up links to posts on ubuntuforums.com, so I tend to assume that's the more, er, canonical I do sometimes suggest a forum for some technical problems but most of the LO/OOo questions are answered in situ. Launchpad Answers has some nice features. Like I have nominated myself as a Answer contact for LO and OOo, so I get questions emailed to me. That is far more efficient than lurking in forums waiting for appropriate questions. place for support. It's also got a navigable interface, which is nice. are bound to get more of the 'sudo apt-get install whatnot' type replies which baffle the non-tech users. I don't think this is a reson to stop giving such answers. I think, perhaps, we just need a page to explain all the 'simple' things that the users might come across (like these instructions) that the visitors can be linked to. Repeatedly re-explaining the basics of everything is not something that's going to happen. In Launchpad you can create FAQs and reference to them. It is a rather under used facility but I have set up a few for common questions that need a lot of explaining (like doing labels using a spreadsheet as the data source). But simple topics like using a terminal could be covered this way. Even in Launchpad you still get a lot of this type of answer or a quick link to a very technical forum post. I even find the new Ask Ubuntu to be pitched at a high technical level. But, perhaps this is the way it seems as, like in many forums and IRC, all manner of issues are put into the same pot whereas Launchpad tries to separate out queries by package, and LO/OOo queries tend to be quite simple. It's support provided by technical people in their spare time. It's likely to be techincal because that's their default position, and they're not trained to assume that everybody doesn't know what they do. Oh dear! I think this is exactly the problem that brought this thread into existence in the first place and the reason I feel that something needs to be done about it. Rather than try to make all the answers easy to understand, I think it'd be better to concoct some way to make it such that the askers feel that they are allowed to (or should) ask for clarification. Or, perhaps rather, make it really easy to find this clarification already extant. If I think my explanation might fall short, I always invite the user to ask me for further clarification. I have already suggested how FAQs in Launchpad could provide a source of clarification. If we just mandate that all the answers should be aimed at non-technical users, we risk alienating the more technical people who provide those answers. If technical people cannot provide non-technical answers, when needed, then they should be encouraged to refrain from giving answers, otherwise you get exactly the problem that brought
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
Tony Pursell wrote: Canonical, the commercial organisation, is configured so. I don't think you'll ever have a provided-in-free-time sort of support arrangement that matches up to the sorts of things that that the paid for ones do in terms of maintaining a low level of technical But this doesn't mean we shouldn't try to improve the level of free support. Oh no. I just meant that where that's wanted, it is available at some cost. understanding - I'm generally of the opinion that a difficult answer that might need research is better than no answer at all, and that's what I'll provide if I've not got the time to explain the meaning. But isn't this the way the sort of problem that started this thread arose? Yes. But I don't think the solution is to just stop giving technical responses. Apart from anything else, there's probably more people wanting the technical sorts of answers than not by the simple fact that as time goes on and experience is gained technical answers become more appropriate. Agreed. If someone asks for support to compile something, then the explain how, but don't just wade in and say 'compile this' if you don't yet know the user's level of expertise. Equally, the user should feel free to say I've no idea what you're talking about if/when someone does say Aha, yes, you just need to build this module. There is one: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training/course-types You cannot expect volunteers to pay for training. Ah, no. I thought you meant for users. I think training everyone who's likely to be giving answers on IRC in giving answers on IRC is impractical at best. I do sometimes suggest a forum for some technical problems but most of the LO/OOo questions are answered in situ. Launchpad Answers has some nice features. Like I have nominated myself as a Answer contact for LO and OOo, so I get questions emailed to me. That is far more efficient than lurking in forums waiting for appropriate questions. I'm nto doubting it has it's benefits (though forums normally let you subscribe to sub-forums or whatever). I just really don't think it's a good interface to point new people at. On the other hand, it's been a while since I was a new person :) In Launchpad you can create FAQs and reference to them. It is a rather under used facility but I have set up a few for common questions that need a lot of explaining (like doing labels using a spreadsheet as the data source). But simple topics like using a terminal could be covered this way. Yeah, there's probably also FAQs on the forums and the ubuntu stackexchange thing and on the wiki and on each of the other innumberable ubuntu support sites. That's the problem, there's about twelve answers to each frequently asked question, two of which are probably correct and neither of those are easy to find. It's support provided by technical people in their spare time. It's likely to be techincal because that's their default position, and they're not trained to assume that everybody doesn't know what they do. Oh dear! I think this is exactly the problem that brought this thread into existence in the first place and the reason I feel that something needs to be done about it. I don't think that particular something is enforcing a lower level of technicality of the answers. You'll get a fewer technical answers that way, sure, because you'll have fewer answers. If technical people cannot provide non-technical answers, when needed, then they should be encouraged to refrain from giving answers, otherwise you get exactly the problem that brought this thread into existence in the first place. And we create a brand new one where the people who want the technical answers can't get them, go somewhere else, and never find themselves in a position to be answering questions about Ubuntu because they're using some other distro. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On 29/07/11 09:51, Barry Drake wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 09:12 +0100, alan c wrote: and gave up. There may be a procedural way to help to avoid this, but the range of level of support from location of the 'any key' through to fluent terminal use is vast. I was very impressed by the support from Virgin broadband. I had upgraded my non-techie sister to Ubuntu and the ancient USB modem was unsupported. Virgin kindly agreed to sent a wi-fi router FOC. They sent a letter with it with setting up instructions, but we couldn't connect. The support person I spoke to was fantastic. He started giving very clear instructions in a totally non-technical and very slow way. As soon as he realised I was a bit more technical, he switched modes. I'll have to get on IRC and lurk and see if I can emulated this approach. Maybe I could write a procedure. Oh, the problem turned out to be that Virgin had written the wrong password in their letter: the correct one was the old one that we all knew. Should have had the sense to try it. And Virgin NEVER said 'we don't support Linux' Regards,Barry. Agreed Barry - that's the sort of thing we always try (and don't always succeed) - she hasn't turned up this morning when she was supposed to bring in her laptop - I suspect it's a driver problem on an older laptop. If/when she does turn up, I'll get more details of when she was in the channel and what was said. Should I be sending people to the ubuntu-beginners channel instead? Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On 29/07/11 14:18, Paula Graham wrote: Agreed Barry - that's the sort of thing we always try (and don't always succeed) - she hasn't turned up this morning when she was supposed to bring in her laptop - I suspect it's a driver problem on an older laptop. If/when she does turn up, I'll get more details of when she was in the channel and what was said. Should I be sending people to the ubuntu-beginners channel instead? no, I think #ubuntu-uk is the right place to send them, although they can of course try the beginners channel if they want to. The beginners channel does not seem to be massively active, it might be more a US timezone thing. Alan -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On 29/07/11 14:18, Paula Graham wrote: Should I be sending people to the ubuntu-beginners channel instead? out of interest, how do you currently direct them, and how do you describe IRC to them? Alan -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 14:47 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: On 29/07/11 14:18, Paula Graham wrote: Should I be sending people to the ubuntu-beginners channel instead? out of interest, how do you currently direct them, and how do you describe IRC to them? Alan and do you suggest any of the following: Ubuntu Answers on Launchpad Ubuntu Forums Ask Ubuntu Mailing List [ubuntu-users|ubuntu-uk] Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On 29/07/11 12:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: Hi Alan, While it is true the general issue has been stated, in order to properly assess what that specific user may see as technical and not technical really depends on the person. If we can get together some examples of where we have gone wrong we can assess each one and figure out how best to treat that kind of situation in the future. I'm more than happy to try and do a session at some point with interested peeps on how to deal with different levels.of technical people, but before we can quantify where the issue is we can't make that decision properly. I'm not saying there isn't a problem, I'm asking for more.information to properly assess how we can improve this situation. If it didn't come across that way I apllogise. Thanks, Matt Daubney Hi Mat Thanks for being so gracious. I think I must have been in particularly controversial mood. :-) alan On Jul 28, 2011 11:44 PM, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Mat It has been said *clearly* what went wrong! The chap on the [irc] who's responded to my plea for help has just given me technical jargon answers I simply don't understand and he's putting me off Ubuntu. The subject did not 'understand'. You will not see that from logs, but you will get it, and *have* got if from their own quote. FWIW I am a ferociously active supporter of Ubuntu and currently also paid up in FSF, but I have only four times used irc seriously, only once every two years on average. I use ubuntuforums very frequently, giving and receiving help (more than 1000 posts). [...] -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] HLUG Open Source Schools Project
On 29/07/11 10:06, Sarah Chard wrote: Hi I wanted to let you know what is happening here in Herefordshire. As a part of ISFD we are running an Open Source Schools Project - partially inspired by discussions here on education and open source. Herefordshire LUG contacted schools across the county and we now have around 7 schools primary, junior and secondary who are interested in taking part. We are creating a lubuntu based distro called tuxedu http://www.tuxedu.org.uk/ for use in primary schools - this is designed to run live but is locked down so it is a completely safe and secure environment. We also intend to produce a secondary version that does allow internet access. Because it is based on lubuntu it is lightweight and will run on older less high spec machines. Following our HLUG meeting on weds we now have support from the ICT consultants at the council who organise ICT across the county's schools - they are introducing us to the schools network techs - so that we can explain our project and ensure that they will allow us access to run tuxedu on the schools networks. We intend to do workshops with students at the schools and also run a session with teachers and possibly interested parents at each school - this will all take place in the autumn term. If it is successful we may be able to expand the project to other schools in the county It is a very exciting project and our hope is that it can be used as a base for similar projects in other areas. Sarah Well Done! -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On 29 July 2011 17:28, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: On 29/07/11 12:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: Hi Alan, While it is true the general issue has been stated, in order to properly assess what that specific user may see as technical and not technical really depends on the person. If we can get together some examples of where we have gone wrong we can assess each one and figure out how best to treat that kind of situation in the future. I'm more than happy to try and do a session at some point with interested peeps on how to deal with different levels.of technical people, but before we can quantify where the issue is we can't make that decision properly. I'm not saying there isn't a problem, I'm asking for more.information to properly assess how we can improve this situation. If it didn't come across that way I apllogise. Thanks, Matt Daubney Hi Mat Thanks for being so gracious. I think I must have been in particularly controversial mood. :-) alan Hi Alan, It's ok, just highlights the point that some people understand different things :) I do see your point, and it is very frustrating on both sides of the table because this kind of problem is a _hard_ problem because it involves people. Have you seen the support guidelines we put together a little while ago? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Support_Guidelines I try to poke people when I see them going against them, but I'm not on IRC very much these days. Hopefully this will poke more people to read them and adopt them :) - Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] HLUG Open Source Schools Project
On 29/07/11 10:06, Sarah Chard wrote: Hi I wanted to let you know what is happening here in Herefordshire. As a part of ISFD we are running an Open Source Schools Project - partially inspired by discussions here on education and open source. Herefordshire LUG contacted schools across the county and we now have around 7 schools primary, junior and secondary who are interested in taking part. We are creating a lubuntu based distro called tuxedu http://www.tuxedu.org.uk/ for use in primary schools - this is designed to run live but is locked down so it is a completely safe and secure environment. We also intend to produce a secondary version that does allow internet access. Because it is based on lubuntu it is lightweight and will run on older less high spec machines. Following our HLUG meeting on weds we now have support from the ICT consultants at the council who organise ICT across the county's schools - they are introducing us to the schools network techs - so that we can explain our project and ensure that they will allow us access to run tuxedu on the schools networks. We intend to do workshops with students at the schools and also run a session with teachers and possibly interested parents at each school - this will all take place in the autumn term. If it is successful we may be able to expand the project to other schools in the county It is a very exciting project and our hope is that it can be used as a base for similar projects in other areas. Sarah That's great going, I'd certainly be interested in giving it a try. I'm currently working on a project here in Torbay to provide a couple of old laptops to a local Sure Start Centre as a sort of mobile computer suite (well 2 laptops and a printer) and maybe something like this would work well rather than me re-inventing the wheel :-) I'll be sure to forward this e-mail to my local LUG, we have a couple of people in our LUG who have some involvement with schools and nurseries so maybe of interest to them. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
On 29/07/11 09:51, Barry Drake wrote: And Virgin NEVER said 'we don't support Linux' You were lucky then - if I ever make the mistake of mentioning Linux, they tell me to phone back when I've installed windows. Dianne-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] I'm new
hi agreed, i have had the same issue with the ISP my dad has chosen, talktalk, they blindly refused to help me, and there reason was this, they couldnt trust the results, hmm. very annoyed bunny. Philip On 29 July 2011 20:21, dianne reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: -- * * On 29/07/11 09:51, Barry Drake wrote: And Virgin NEVER said 'we don't support Linux' You were lucky then - if I ever make the mistake of mentioning Linux, they tell me to phone back when I've installed windows. Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane
Sure, count me in. I wanted to organise something but I've been flat out with work the last few weeks. Hopefully I can be there the whole day, but in the worst case I'll be there from about 12:00 on (after work). I'll try to get the whole day free however. What location did you have in mind? Chris. - Original Message From: Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 1:22:01 PM Subject: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane Good afternoon Ubuntu-AU'ers, I was wondering if anyone in Brisbane would be interested in helping out with a SFD event on Saturday the 17th September. For those of you not sure what SFD is check out the link [0]. I have asked for interest on the HUMBUG list to no avail so was wondering if there was enough support from just Ubuntu-AU to go it alone in Brisbane or not. If anyone wants to organise (or join in an already organised event - see this map [1] for locations already confirmed) please feel free to start a new email thread on the list. [0] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ [1] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2011 -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane
On 29 July 2011 18:00, Chris Robinson fabricat...@yahoo.com wrote: Sure, count me in. I wanted to organise something but I've been flat out with work the last few weeks. Hopefully I can be there the whole day, but in the worst case I'll be there from about 12:00 on (after work). I'll try to get the whole day free however. What location did you have in mind? Chris. Chris, Good to see you're keen. As for the venue I had a couple of ideas but nothing solid, so far I was thinking either we could try to find a computer market, a general market, shopping centre or library to invade for the day. The problem with that is I have no idea how good the local Brisbane computer market is, does anyone have any feedback on if it's well attended? -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 65, Issue 19
Is there going to be a Software freedom day in SA.. Regards Terry On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:30 PM, ubuntu-au-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Send ubuntu-au mailing list submissions to ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-au-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-au-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ubuntu-au digest... Today's Topics: 1. Software Freedom Day - Brisbane (Jared Norris) 2. Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane (Chris Robinson) 3. Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane (Jared Norris) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:22:01 +1000 From: Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane Message-ID: caf4+eiuuzsf+8oak+ntfbojrvccdjtbt22v47y0cwbf9qhm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good afternoon Ubuntu-AU'ers, I was wondering if anyone in Brisbane would be interested in helping out with a SFD event on Saturday the 17th September. For those of you not sure what SFD is check out the link [0]. I have asked for interest on the HUMBUG list to no avail so was wondering if there was enough support from just Ubuntu-AU to go it alone in Brisbane or not. If anyone wants to organise (or join in an already organised event - see this map [1] for locations already confirmed) please feel free to start a new email thread on the list. [0] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ [1] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2011 -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:00:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Robinson fabricat...@yahoo.com To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane Message-ID: 1311926404.83003.yahoomai...@web114710.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Sure, count me in. I wanted to organise something but I've been flat out with work the last few weeks. Hopefully I can be there the whole day, but in the worst case I'll be there from about 12:00 on (after work). I'll try to get the whole day free however. What location did you have in mind? Chris. - Original Message From: Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 1:22:01 PM Subject: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane Good afternoon Ubuntu-AU'ers, I was wondering if anyone in Brisbane would be interested in helping out with a SFD event on Saturday the 17th September. For those of you not sure what SFD is check out the link [0]. I have asked for interest on the HUMBUG list to no avail so was wondering if there was enough support from just Ubuntu-AU to go it alone in Brisbane or not. If anyone wants to organise (or join in an already organised event - see this map [1] for locations already confirmed) please feel free to start a new email thread on the list. [0] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ [1] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/map/index.php?year=2011 -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:28:13 +1000 From: Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com To: Chris Robinson fabricat...@yahoo.com Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane Message-ID: caf4+eixpbpflsdu_ba8u1nm1dqwa4trxdmberisnb7wkxke...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 29 July 2011 18:00, Chris Robinson fabricat...@yahoo.com wrote: Sure, count me in. ?I wanted to organise something but I've been flat out with work the last few weeks. Hopefully I can be there the whole day, but in the worst case I'll be there from about 12:00 on (after work). ?I'll try to get the whole day free however. What location did you have in mind? Chris. Chris, Good to see you're keen. As for the venue I had a couple of ideas but nothing solid, so far I was thinking either we could try to find a computer market, a general market, shopping centre or library to invade for the day. The problem with that is I have no idea how good the local Brisbane computer market is, does anyone have any feedback on if it's well attended? -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- -- ubuntu-au mailing list
Re: Software Freedom Day - Brisbane
Hi Jared, I think the markets are on Sunday, I can't find mention of a Saturday market. It might be a bit hit-or-miss, but you'd expect at least 120-150 through the door at any of the venues, possibly a lot more. The Library idea sounds interesting. How about taking over a coffee shop for the day? Find a nice trendy one with plenty of space that wouldn't mind a bunch of geeks talking to their customers, and maybe setting up a laptop or two. The QUT open day is this Sunday, unfortunately I could not get organised in time, and it doesn't really fit into the SFD anyway... Chris Coffee shop sounds interesting, anyone on the list know of a coffee shop that has lots of space (so wiling to give us some) that has high traffic (in or near a shopping centre or similar) that might be interested in helping out? -- Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Default libjpeg-dev in oneiric
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:13:49PM -0500, Kate Stewart wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 17:54 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: CCing ubuntu-devel so people are aware of the issue Due to the accidental autosync, we pulled in a libjpeg8-dev that provides libjpeg-dev. Should we revert that one change (not provide libjpeg-dev in libjpeg8) or should we try to do the transition? There are a number of incomplete transitions ATM (libnotify, libssl, libav, boost1.4.6, and a few more with ~10 packages each). Attached are a list of rdepends affected. ...ouch. Given we'll be putting out the A3 release next week, and I don't believe this update and transition is essential, my preference would be to revert it for now, and then after A3's out, assess if if makes sense to pull it in and manage the transition, or wait until P-series for this one. Given all the stuff about to land for A3 and Feature Freeze almost upon us, it seems a bit risky to add this in, esp. with folks going on vacation right now. What do others think? I agree, best to back this out. Micah, will you upload the necessary change? (Sooner better than later, so we don't drift too much while libjpeg8-dev is the default?) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
[armel] multilib'd (softfp/hardfp) gcc available in Ubuntu oneiric
the current gcc-4.6/eglibc is now built multilib'd for -mfloat-abi=softfp|hard, including the GCC runtime libraries. I hope that the gcc cross builds will pick this up soonish, not needing to build the cross compiler twice for softfp and hard float-abi. Matthias -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Default libjpeg-dev in oneiric
On 07/29/2011 02:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:13:49PM -0500, Kate Stewart wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 17:54 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: CCing ubuntu-devel so people are aware of the issue Due to the accidental autosync, we pulled in a libjpeg8-dev that provides libjpeg-dev. Should we revert that one change (not provide libjpeg-dev in libjpeg8) or should we try to do the transition? There are a number of incomplete transitions ATM (libnotify, libssl, libav, boost1.4.6, and a few more with ~10 packages each). Attached are a list of rdepends affected. ...ouch. Given we'll be putting out the A3 release next week, and I don't believe this update and transition is essential, my preference would be to revert it for now, and then after A3's out, assess if if makes sense to pull it in and manage the transition, or wait until P-series for this one. Given all the stuff about to land for A3 and Feature Freeze almost upon us, it seems a bit risky to add this in, esp. with folks going on vacation right now. What do others think? I agree, best to back this out. Micah, will you upload the necessary change? (Sooner better than later, so we don't drift too much while libjpeg8-dev is the default?) Actually, libjpeg8-dev isn't the default ATM. Anything with libjpeg-dev as a build depend will FTBFS since 2 packages provide the same virtual libjpeg-dev package. I'll prepare an upload to fix, but I need it sponsored still. Thanks, Micah -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Default libjpeg-dev in oneiric
On 07/29/2011 10:47 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/29/2011 02:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:13:49PM -0500, Kate Stewart wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 17:54 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: CCing ubuntu-devel so people are aware of the issue Due to the accidental autosync, we pulled in a libjpeg8-dev that provides libjpeg-dev. Should we revert that one change (not provide libjpeg-dev in libjpeg8) or should we try to do the transition? There are a number of incomplete transitions ATM (libnotify, libssl, libav, boost1.4.6, and a few more with ~10 packages each). Attached are a list of rdepends affected. ...ouch. Given we'll be putting out the A3 release next week, and I don't believe this update and transition is essential, my preference would be to revert it for now, and then after A3's out, assess if if makes sense to pull it in and manage the transition, or wait until P-series for this one. Given all the stuff about to land for A3 and Feature Freeze almost upon us, it seems a bit risky to add this in, esp. with folks going on vacation right now. What do others think? I agree, best to back this out. Micah, will you upload the necessary change? (Sooner better than later, so we don't drift too much while libjpeg8-dev is the default?) Actually, libjpeg8-dev isn't the default ATM. Anything with libjpeg-dev as a build depend will FTBFS since 2 packages provide the same virtual libjpeg-dev package. I'll prepare an upload to fix, but I need it sponsored still. Thanks, Micah This has been uploaded and should be available after the next publisher run. Thanks, Micah -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Default libjpeg-dev in oneiric
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 11:27 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/29/2011 10:47 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: On 07/29/2011 02:39 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 06:13:49PM -0500, Kate Stewart wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 17:54 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: CCing ubuntu-devel so people are aware of the issue Due to the accidental autosync, we pulled in a libjpeg8-dev that provides libjpeg-dev. Should we revert that one change (not provide libjpeg-dev in libjpeg8) or should we try to do the transition? There are a number of incomplete transitions ATM (libnotify, libssl, libav, boost1.4.6, and a few more with ~10 packages each). Attached are a list of rdepends affected. ...ouch. Given we'll be putting out the A3 release next week, and I don't believe this update and transition is essential, my preference would be to revert it for now, and then after A3's out, assess if if makes sense to pull it in and manage the transition, or wait until P-series for this one. Given all the stuff about to land for A3 and Feature Freeze almost upon us, it seems a bit risky to add this in, esp. with folks going on vacation right now. What do others think? I agree, best to back this out. Micah, will you upload the necessary change? (Sooner better than later, so we don't drift too much while libjpeg8-dev is the default?) Actually, libjpeg8-dev isn't the default ATM. Anything with libjpeg-dev as a build depend will FTBFS since 2 packages provide the same virtual libjpeg-dev package. I'll prepare an upload to fix, but I need it sponsored still. Thanks, Micah This has been uploaded and should be available after the next publisher run. Thanks Micah! :) Kate -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Understanding the definitions and expectations of our membership processes
On 2011-07-27 12:55:08 -0700, Chase Douglas wrote: Imo, What we should be looking for is two-fold: Packaging: 1. Has the applicant properly worked on packages in the past? 2. Is the applicant aware of the limits of their packaging competency? 3. Does the applicant seek out guidance when confronted with packaging they are not competent with? (Note that questions 2 and 3 should be answered through endorsements.) Overall Trust: [...] 2. Do endorsements provide positive feedback about the trustworthiness of the applicant? This leads to the next question: how much do you trust the person writing the endorsement? Of course I trust endorsements from long-standing dev members with a great reputation where I trust their ability to judge the packaging skills and trustworthiness of the applicant. But should I apply the same trust to e.g. a dev member who got accepted himself a month ago? In most cases all I've got are a couple lines in a endorsement from persons I've worked with to different degrees and who have a different amount of reputation. As I've never met anyone from the dev community in person till now, it makes it harder to build up a trust relationship to them. Michael -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Welcome Philip Muškovac To kubuntu-dev
Congratulations to Philip Muškovac (yofel) who is now a Kubuntu Developer (kubuntu-dev). Since this is his first developer role in Ubuntu, it also means he has just joined the ranks of Ubuntu developers too. Scott K -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com o ubuntu
Yow! Algumas BIOS tem uma opção de warning quando não tem rede, vai lá e desativa esse aviso pra ver se muda algo.. abç -- Marlon Valério ┌─┐ Problems, lots of Problems └─┘ Em 28 de julho de 2011 23:48, Jeferson Rodrigues jefero...@gmail.comescreveu: Boa noite Cesar, E no windows? Funciona redondinho? Abraços Em 28/07/2011 18:23, Cesar Lima Caetano cesar.trabal...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 20 de julho de 2011 19:27, Zandre Bran zandreb...@ubuntu.com escreveu: 2011/7/20 Cesar Lima Caetano cesar.trabal...@gmail.com: Ôlas Cesar. [...] O problema é que eu não consigo iniciar Ubuntu sem ele estar conectado com o cabo de rede. Quando eu coloco minha senha e inicio ele para como se estivesse travado e se eu inicio com o cabo e depois retiro este o sistema trava. Eu gostaria de saber o que esta acontecendo e o que posso fazer para consertar? Na realidade, creio que ele não trave, ele fica é quem loco tentando renovar seu DNS. Enfim, como configurou esta rede? Pelo networkmanager? Ou não configurou nada, só espetou o cabo? Muito Obrigado Ass: Cesar L. -- []s -- Zandre. :: https://launchpad.net/~zandrebran :: http://www.linuxacessivel.org :: Centro de Computação - Unicamp: - Toca GNUuuu :) -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br Olha Não configurei nada soh espetei o cabo, mas por exemplo se eu inicia-lo com o cabo ele funciona, se eu tiralo ele trava tbm. O que vc acha qe pode ser? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] arquivos .run
Olha pessoal - desculpe Júlio, ainda não segui suas instruções - como pode em Drives Adicionais apareçer a informação que o drive current ou o 173, depende de qual tenha sido solicitado (tentei os dois com o mesmo resultado), e apos reiniciar o PC diz que está ativado mas não em uso e o Nvidia X Server Settings informar que o drive é o 270.41.06? De onde o bendito apareceu? Agradeço quaisquer esclarecimentos [ ]'s manold -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Player de video
Bom dia, estou com o seguinte problema: instalei o 11.04 do zero e, apos, tentei assistir um filme adquirido junto à Folha. O Banshee e o Rep. de Filmes não conseguiram exibi-lo e nada informaram. Instalei o VLC que também não conseguiu reproduzi-lo mas exibiu uma mensagem falando da proibição de copia-lo e exibi-lo em locais públicos. Achei que poderia ser defeito da mídia e oa coloquei num PC com Win7 que a reproduziu sem delongas. Alguem pode ajudar? O que pode estar acontecendo? Desde já, obrigado por qualquer ajuda. [ ]'s manold -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Player de video
Bom dia, estou com o seguinte problema: instalei o 11.04 do zero e, apos, tentei assistir um filme adquirido junto à Folha. O Banshee e o Rep. de Filmes não conseguiram exibi-lo e nada informaram. Instalei o VLC que também não conseguiu reproduzi-lo mas exibiu uma mensagem falando da proibição de copia-lo e exibi-lo em locais públicos. Achei que poderia ser defeito da mídia e oa coloquei num PC com Win7 que a reproduziu sem delongas. Alguem pode ajudar? O que pode estar acontecendo? Desde já, obrigado por qualquer ajuda. [ ]'s manold -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] arquivos .run
Bom dia Manold, O driver Current deve ser o 270. Mas o que você acha de voltarmos ao outro tópico referente a este assunto que você criou? Abraços Em 29 de julho de 2011 10:20, manold man...@uol.com.br escreveu: Olha pessoal - desculpe Júlio, ainda não segui suas instruções - como pode em Drives Adicionais apareçer a informação que o drive current ou o 173, depende de qual tenha sido solicitado (tentei os dois com o mesmo resultado), e apos reiniciar o PC diz que está ativado mas não em uso e o Nvidia X Server Settings informar que o drive é o 270.41.06? De onde o bendito apareceu? Agradeço quaisquer esclarecimentos [ ]'s manold -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/**comecehttp://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-brhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Player de video
provavelmente precisa de uma biblioteca, ou codec instala uns pacotes básicos de codec e veja se dá boa tenho um script que faz isso pra mim, só atualize a versão do SO para a sua http://ubuntuone.com/p/16tv/ abrass -- Marlon Valério ┌─┐ Problems, lots of Problems └─┘ Em 29 de julho de 2011 13:21, manold man...@uol.com.br escreveu: Bom dia, estou com o seguinte problema: instalei o 11.04 do zero e, apos, tentei assistir um filme adquirido junto à Folha. O Banshee e o Rep. de Filmes não conseguiram exibi-lo e nada informaram. Instalei o VLC que também não conseguiu reproduzi-lo mas exibiu uma mensagem falando da proibição de copia-lo e exibi-lo em locais públicos. Achei que poderia ser defeito da mídia e oa coloquei num PC com Win7 que a reproduziu sem delongas. Alguem pode ajudar? O que pode estar acontecendo? Desde já, obrigado por qualquer ajuda. [ ]'s manold -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/**comecehttp://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-brhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Duvida sobre backup Utorrent
Vou começar a usar ubuntu agora, e precisaria saber se consigo me manter como seeder mesmo trocando de SO. É possivel? Obrigado desde ja! -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Duvida sobre backup Utorrent
Yooow! meu utorrent funfa na boa pelo wine... abrass -- Marlon Valério ┌─┐ Problems, lots of Problems └─┘ Em 29 de julho de 2011 15:33, Lucas Vinicius Massoline Correa lucas.massol...@gmail.com escreveu: Vou começar a usar ubuntu agora, e precisaria saber se consigo me manter como seeder mesmo trocando de SO. É possivel? Obrigado desde ja! -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Lançamento da Versão 1.0 do Stoq - Gestão Comercial
Com muita satisfação, a Equipe Async Stoq anuncia a versão 1.0 do Stoq. Esta versão é um marco na vitoriosa história do software Stoq. Atrativos deste release: - Implementação e suporte para TEF (Transferência Eletrônica de Fundos). Com a utilização de nosso TEF IP, você não precisa de uma linha dedicada ou discada para as transações. Tudo é feito através da internet. É possível testar a funcionalidade do TEF através do LiveCD. - Implementação inicial do Aplicativo Financeiro, possibilitando cadastrar seu plano de contas, importar o arquivo ofx gerado pelo seu internet banking, suas contas bancárias, como também sua conta caixa e investimentos diversos. - Automatização no processo de envio de erros, se um problema ocorre durante a execução do Stoq, o usuário pode enviar detalhes do erro automaticamente para os desenvolvedores. - Implementação experimental de suporte para boletos bancários sem registro. - Integração do manual no Stoq. Agora o usuário pode consultar o manual do Stoq direto do menu ajuda em todos os aplicativos, bem como online. - Simplificação do processo de instalação e atualizações, além da possibilidade de remoção do modo de demonstração, para usuários que instalarem usando o LiveCD. - Implementação de melhoria na usabilidade do teclado nos aplicativos, principalmente no PDV (Ponto de Vendas), sendo possível realizar uma venda em poucos segundos. Como em versões anteriores, é suportada atualização da versão 0.9.15 para 1.0. Silvio Rangel Gerente de Produto Stoq Sobre o Stoq: Stoq é uma inovadora suíte de aplicativos para gestão comercial de empresas, mantida pela Async Open Source. O foco principal dos aplicativos são as empresas do comércio varejista. Contempla a emissão de vendas com respectiva impressão de cupom fiscal via ECF, controle de estoque, contas a pagar e a receber, compras, apuração de impostos, controle de serviços, relatórios e outros recursos, destacando-se a integração com outros periféricos como balanças, teclados multi-função e etc. Stoq na web = * Website: http://www.stoq.com.br * Características: http://www.stoq.com.br/more/features * Documentação: http://wiki.stoq.com.br * Manual: http://doc.stoq.com.br/manual/ * Downloads: http://www.stoq.com.br/download Novidades da versão 1.0 A lista completa de novidades na versão 1.0 pode ser verificada no link que se segue http://tinyurl.com/stoq-1-0 Diferenciais do produto = * Interfaces projetadas com atenção obsessiva para usabilidade. * Cada aplicação contém recursos específicos para determinado departamento ou setor de uma empresa, sendo simples de usar, com número reduzido de itens de menu, botões e informações que possam confundir o usuário. * O Stoq é um sistema flexível, podendo ser utilizado em diversos estabelecimentos do comércio varejista, destacando-se; - Supermercados - Lojas de móveis - Lojas de eletrodomésticos - Lojas de roupas - Lojas de calçados - Surfshops - Padarias - Postos de combustíveis. Agradecimentos Agradecemos a todos que contribuíram para este lançamento acontecer: Christian Robottom Reis, Gabriel Gerga, George Kussumoto, Johan Dahlin, Pedro Camargo, Pedro Zorzenon Neto, Ronaldo Maia, Silvio Rangel, Thiago Bellini. Atenciosamente. -- Silvio Rangel - Gerente de Produto Stoq Async Open Source (16) 3491-2868 / 3376-0125 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Lançamento da Versão 1.0 do Stoq - Gestão Comercial
Em 29 de julho de 2011 14:04, Silvio Rangel sil...@async.com.br escreveu: Com muita satisfação, a Equipe Async Stoq anuncia a versão 1.0 do Stoq. Esta versão é um marco na vitoriosa história do software Stoq. Interessante, mas off-topic, não é mesmo? -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Ouvindo rádio com o Stream Tuner ou outro sintonizador
Caros, no windows, utilizava muito um programa chamado Taping Radio. Por meio dele podia: 1. Sintonizar rádios de todo o mundo; 2. Gravar em mp3 o áudio das emissoras; 3. Pesquisar rádios por país, por gênero e por outras tags; 4. Agendar tarefas de gravação para determinados horários. O número de emissoras da base era muito elevado, ainda assim, segundo me consta, não tive necessidade, era possível adicionar outras rádios que não fossem encontradas na pesquisa. Deixei o Windows. No Linux, encontrei o Stream Tuner. Como sou cego, então, além de encontrar o programa de que necessito, este ainda tem de ser acessível ao leitor de telas. O Stream tuner o é. No entanto, não consegui entender o seu funcionamento. Ao abrir o Stream Tuner, deparamo-nos com diversas abas. Uma delas, refere-se às emissoras pré-selecionadas. Basta escolher e pressionar enter sobre o nome da emissora. O problema é que não consegui ouvir qualquer emissora, além das pré-selecionadas e também não consegui pesquisar por país ou mesmo encontrar por alguma outra forma uma lista de rádios do Brasil, da Itália, de notícias, de música clássica. Então, a minha primeira idéia é: por que não experimentar outros sintonizadores de rádio? Assim, pergunto-lhes: 1. Conhecem outros sintonizadores de rádio? Para mim, é importante que obtenha algumas opções porque quase certamente algumas não serão acessíveis. 2. Alguém saberia como buscar rádios por país utilizando o Stream Tuner? Luciano -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Para onde vão?
Os arquivosou aplicativos minimizados? Tanto no Nasty como no Ubuntu Clássico? Quando minimizo, NUNCA MAIS os acho. tenho que clicar no ícone do aplicativo novamente. Se for isso, acho MUITO PIOR do que antes. -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* * Atenção: Este e-mail pode conter anexos no formato ODF (Open Document Format)/ABNT (extensões odt, ods, odp, odb, odg). Antes de pedir os anexos em outro formato, você pode instalar gratuita e livremente o BrOffice ( http://www.broffice.org) ou o seguinte Plugin para Microsoft Office ( http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp). -- * []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Camara digital hp photosmart m637
Minha camera digital não está sendo reconhecida pelo Kubuntu, que tem nas suas configurações de camaras vários modelos, inclusive das Hps, menos a série que acredito que seja a correspondente do driver do meu modelo, ou seja, photosmart M630 usb. Procurei o driver no site da Hp, mas só encontrei para o windons. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Para onde vão?
Em 29 de julho de 2011 15:45, Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com escreveu: Os arquivosou aplicativos minimizados? Tanto no Nasty como no Ubuntu Clássico? Quando minimizo, NUNCA MAIS os acho. tenho que clicar no ícone do aplicativo novamente. Se for isso, acho MUITO PIOR do que antes. Eles vão para o ícone. A ideia é exatamente ter um único ícone para os aplicativos, em vez de ter um ícone para abrir e outro botão para depois que abrir. -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Camara digital hp photosmart m637
2011/7/29 Beni Prado bmpr...@gmail.com: Ôlas Beni. Minha camera digital não está sendo reconhecida pelo Kubuntu [...] Que legal, também estou usando KDE. [...] Procurei o driver no site da Hp, mas só encontrei para o windons. Já tentou usar o ndiswrapper com o driver do Windows para ver se tua cam funciona? -- []s -- Zandre. :: O projeto linuxacessivel.org está concorrendo na premiação do FRIDA. :: Precisamos de seu voto: http://premiofrida.org/por/projects/view/1527 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] arquivos .run
Oi Jeferson Este foi, exatamente, o tópico que eu criei a partir de um .run da Nvidia que eu não soube, e não sei. como iinstalar. Pode até ser que o current seja o 270 mas quando eu pedi para ativar o 173 (não carregava o Unity) e apos suposta instalação reiniciei, a pedido, o PC, deu-se a mesma coisa: drivers adicionais dizendo que o 173 esta ativado mas não em uso e o nvidia settings informando o uso do 270. E aí eu pérgunto: o Sistema não deveria carregar o 173 já que foi a minha escolha? [ ]'s manold Em 29-07-2011 11:11, Jeferson Rodrigues escreveu: Bom dia Manold, O driver Current deve ser o 270. Mas o que você acha de voltarmos ao outro tópico referente a este assunto que você criou? Abraços Em 29 de julho de 2011 10:20, manoldman...@uol.com.br escreveu: Olha pessoal - desculpe Júlio, ainda não segui suas instruções - como pode em Drives Adicionais apareçer a informação que o drive current ou o 173, depende de qual tenha sido solicitado (tentei os dois com o mesmo resultado), e apos reiniciar o PC diz que está ativado mas não em uso e o Nvidia X Server Settings informar que o drive é o 270.41.06? De onde o bendito apareceu? Agradeço quaisquer esclarecimentos [ ]'s manold -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/**comecehttp://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-brhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Player de video
Valeu Marlon [ ]'s msnold Em 29-07-2011 11:31, Marlon escreveu: provavelmente precisa de uma biblioteca, ou codec instala uns pacotes básicos de codec e veja se dá boa tenho um script que faz isso pra mim, só atualize a versão do SO para a sua http://ubuntuone.com/p/16tv/ abrass -- Marlon Valério ┌─┐ Problems, lots of Problems └─┘ Em 29 de julho de 2011 13:21, manoldman...@uol.com.br escreveu: Bom dia, estou com o seguinte problema: instalei o 11.04 do zero e, apos, tentei assistir um filme adquirido junto à Folha. O Banshee e o Rep. de Filmes não conseguiram exibi-lo e nada informaram. Instalei o VLC que também não conseguiu reproduzi-lo mas exibiu uma mensagem falando da proibição de copia-lo e exibi-lo em locais públicos. Achei que poderia ser defeito da mídia e oa coloquei num PC com Win7 que a reproduziu sem delongas. Alguem pode ajudar? O que pode estar acontecendo? Desde já, obrigado por qualquer ajuda. [ ]'s manold -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/**comecehttp://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-brhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Player de video
Oi Marlon desculpe a iignorancia mas como executo o script? Em 29-07-2011 11:31, Marlon escreveu: provavelmente precisa de uma biblioteca, ou codec instala uns pacotes básicos de codec e veja se dá boa tenho um script que faz isso pra mim, só atualize a versão do SO para a sua http://ubuntuone.com/p/16tv/ abrass -- Marlon Valério ┌─┐ Problems, lots of Problems └─┘ Em 29 de julho de 2011 13:21, manoldman...@uol.com.br escreveu: Bom dia, estou com o seguinte problema: instalei o 11.04 do zero e, apos, tentei assistir um filme adquirido junto à Folha. O Banshee e o Rep. de Filmes não conseguiram exibi-lo e nada informaram. Instalei o VLC que também não conseguiu reproduzi-lo mas exibiu uma mensagem falando da proibição de copia-lo e exibi-lo em locais públicos. Achei que poderia ser defeito da mídia e oa coloquei num PC com Win7 que a reproduziu sem delongas. Alguem pode ajudar? O que pode estar acontecendo? Desde já, obrigado por qualquer ajuda. [ ]'s manold -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/**comecehttp://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-brhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com o Ubuntu 11.04 instalado do zero em um DELL
Encomendei um Dell XPS 15, espero que a compatibilidade seja 100%. Em 15 de julho de 2011 17:15, João Sales joaosall...@gmail.com escreveu: Utilizo um Dell Vostro 3500 i3. 110% compatível com ubuntu. Tá redondinho. On 13-07-2011 21:52, Jorge Luiz wrote: Pessoal, Alguém teve problemas com a instalação do Ubuntu 11.04 em um computador Dell Vostro 260s (Processador Core i5)??? Tipo interfaces travando e etc??? Mesmo depois de um apt-get dist-upgrade. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/**comecehttp://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-brhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Para onde vão?
Se é isso, como suspeitei, achei uma PÉSSIMA IDEIA. Mas, tudo bem... Em 29 de julho de 2011 16:42, Humberto Fraga xisbe...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 29 de julho de 2011 15:45, Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com escreveu: Os arquivosou aplicativos minimizados? Tanto no Nasty como no Ubuntu Clássico? Quando minimizo, NUNCA MAIS os acho. tenho que clicar no ícone do aplicativo novamente. Se for isso, acho MUITO PIOR do que antes. Eles vão para o ícone. A ideia é exatamente ter um único ícone para os aplicativos, em vez de ter um ícone para abrir e outro botão para depois que abrir. -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Conheça meu livro Lógica de Formação de Acordes! !* *Pedidos para o endereço :* *renatoal...@renatoalvim.com* * Atenção: Este e-mail pode conter anexos no formato ODF (Open Document Format)/ABNT (extensões odt, ods, odp, odb, odg). Antes de pedir os anexos em outro formato, você pode instalar gratuita e livremente o BrOffice ( http://www.broffice.org) ou o seguinte Plugin para Microsoft Office ( http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp). -- * []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Modem ZTE MF110 - VIVO 3G - Ubuntu 11.04
Ainda não fiz novos testes, mas assim que eu realizar novos testes eu passo o feedback. Abraços, Elton Lima Elton Lima Analista de Suporte Tel: +55 21 8714-3381 E-mail: elton...@gmail.com // eltl...@yahoo.com.br Site: http://www.eltonlima.com De: Brenno Emanuel emanuel.br...@gmail.com Para: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 28 de Julho de 2011 15:53 Assunto: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Modem ZTE MF110 - VIVO 3G - Ubuntu 11.04 Semana passada usei o modelo citado com um chip vivo e depois com um tim. Funcionou normalmente em ambos os casos. A instalação ocorreu automaticamente. Fiquei surpreso quando o speedtest.net me informou que navegava a 1.2 Mb/s. Depois a velocidade caiu como já esperava. Não percebi instabilidade. Mas acho que isso vai depender da sua região. Mas, respondendo sua pergunta: o modem funcionou normalmente e sem frescura na instalação. Cordialmente Brenno Emanuel [PS] Tenho o Ubuntu 11.04 de 64 bits. Em 28 de julho de 2011 14:10, Rui Porto porto@gmail.com escreveu: Eu nunca tive problemas com este dispositivo. Em 28 de julho de 2011 12:58, Elton Lima eltl...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Olá amigos, Estou com um pequena dúvida na configuração do Modem 3G ZTE MF110 da VIVO(UBUNTU 11.04), isso tem algum mistério de instalação ou não? Abraços, Elton Lima Analista de Suporte E-mail: elton...@gmail.com // eltl...@yahoo.com.br Site: http://www.eltonlima.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Oh... what the heck... I'll do something in the Brussels Area. Don't know exactly what yet, and I guess I'll find people to hop on the wagon. Brussels Central Station seems like a good place to have a spot - I'll look in the possibilities for this. Since Brussels is quite central, if you don't have an initiative, you can join on the Brussels SFD. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 07:52 AM, Jean7491 wrote: Hi to all, Preparation of the Software Freedom Day (17/09/2011) is going on. If you intend to participate to this event and wish to organize some activity, the first step is to constitute a small team and to register the team before the 02/08/2011 (to receive a pack of goodies) . See how in the SFD emails. Regards, jean7491 Ubuntu Belgium Events Team Message original Sujet: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help Date : Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:31:19 +0800 De : Pockey Lam poc...@softwarefreedomday.org mailto:poc...@softwarefreedomday.org Répondre à : The SFD marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org Pour : The SFD marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org, sfd-discuss sfd-disc...@sf-day.org mailto:sfd-disc...@sf-day.org Dear everybody, We prepared 200 packs of goodies and we have around 140 teams registered so far. That means we still have five days to get 60 teams! In order to do that we need your help to run a SFD registration is on campaign! Would everyone try to find the contacts of all the local communities in your country and inform them about the SFD registration and ask them to organize and register a SFD event? Let's keep track of the local communities list here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/CommunityList so we can reuse it for the coming years. If you cannot edit the wiki page, please send me an email separately to tell me your wiki login name, I can add you in the MarketingGroup or feel free to send me the list so I can add it for you. I drafted an email to send to local communities, please feel free to modify, localize and send to your local communities. Blogging and microblogging would be great too. I had already contacted 100+ local communities so far and contacting more, will update on the wiki list as next step. With everybody's help, we can definitely bring SFD to more places, so let's do it! If you have other ideas of how to promote SFD to potential organizers, please share them here, we can always do better! *Email* Register your SFD2011 event now -- If you plan to organize a Software Freedom Day (SFD) event this year, but haven't registered yet, you should definitely go to register as soon as possible to get some goodies on or before August 2nd! SFD Goodies availability is subject to first come first served basis and each pack will include 3 t-shirts, 20 stickers, 10 tshirt transfer labels, 3 dvds, 20 balloons anda 2-meter long banner :-) Registration is very easy, you just need to : 1) create a wiki page of your event under wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011, and then 2) go to http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py to submit your event information. If you have any issue regarding registration, you may read our howto on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage or contact us via email: sfd-discuss(at)sf-day.org or IRC: #sfd @freenode server. If you wonder what is SFD or how to organize or participate in a SFD event? Please go to our website on http://www.softwarefreedomday.org http://softwarefreedomday.org and read our startguide on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide If you already registered your SFD event, all the best to your preparation! Please also help us to promote Software Freedom Day by placing a SFD web banner on your website / blog: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Promote and link back to your SFD event page or softwarefreedomday.org front page. Thank you! -- Pockey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOMnJXAAoJEGdmANzaWplDI1cP/2H0JQ9e1qbEP5LWs+K4AHvZ p10nNLi/FCOhfa+GfBnswf9HuqCcaRQ42jxo95cuSCshQA7E1QguSIhklEn3CdPQ l13E80/VXTJdA1rrpY91WAt8KrIQH+CT28wl3IEkcs5bW1HcwmxteV/bVG4/NVbl sQjM9BDrpIC4iAGv639wK3HLeqwTnni2E0oRs6ogWR378XI5DuB/zmy0NLo0tloc bgZziavfvDhs+lagIpG+nvTJ9BtJKkKEjOOJkb7v9Fxq9vC7TP2n1p+LYDuwCmTv blahpumLl/Cslm0zlyflZCtmffXY1kMhbDPOdkTjefF96UgP8t8sajeLRBCh5SHd NbnAo4TleqPNyGno0D2ym8QokngqyQNsO5bg1i8s41eQSYMeDgYrNB/SaKC0Wz8w OAMZuOl8ul3H1yoUorK6MvDaLiGa+CSPVbOLko0AG5KyXgBvOOyD9hvRn/+OVTkH 0WFP/IqC4GTksRBPPkkmGzAQ+wUvEHvKuRevu20HiiNozYbDIRIhkvI5czs49sqr
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help
Hey maybe we can do the railroad action again?https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReleaseActions If we can manage to get enough people, we might even be able to do Gent, Brussels, and Leuven the same day.. Or am I seeing things to big here? Grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:42:03 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Oh... what the heck... I'll do something in the Brussels Area. Don't know exactly what yet, and I guess I'll find people to hop on the wagon. Brussels Central Station seems like a good place to have a spot - I'll look in the possibilities for this. Since Brussels is quite central, if you don't have an initiative, you can join on the Brussels SFD. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 07:52 AM, Jean7491 wrote: Hi to all, Preparation of the Software Freedom Day (17/09/2011) is going on. If you intend to participate to this event and wish to organize some activity, the first step is to constitute a small team and to register the team before the 02/08/2011 (to receive a pack of goodies) . See how in the SFD emails. Regards, jean7491 Ubuntu Belgium Events Team Message original Sujet: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help Date :Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:31:19 +0800 De :Pockey Lam poc...@softwarefreedomday.org mailto:poc...@softwarefreedomday.org Répondre à : The SFD marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org Pour :The SFD marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org, sfd-discuss sfd-disc...@sf-day.org mailto:sfd-disc...@sf-day.org Dear everybody, We prepared 200 packs of goodies and we have around 140 teams registered so far. That means we still have five days to get 60 teams! In order to do that we need your help to run a SFD registration is on campaign! Would everyone try to find the contacts of all the local communities in your country and inform them about the SFD registration and ask them to organize and register a SFD event? Let's keep track of the local communities list here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/CommunityList so we can reuse it for the coming years. If you cannot edit the wiki page, please send me an email separately to tell me your wiki login name, I can add you in the MarketingGroup or feel free to send me the list so I can add it for you. I drafted an email to send to local communities, please feel free to modify, localize and send to your local communities. Blogging and microblogging would be great too. I had already contacted 100+ local communities so far and contacting more, will update on the wiki list as next step. With everybody's help, we can definitely bring SFD to more places, so let's do it! If you have other ideas of how to promote SFD to potential organizers, please share them here, we can always do better! *Email* Register your SFD2011 event now -- If you plan to organize a Software Freedom Day (SFD) event this year, but haven't registered yet, you should definitely go to register as soon as possible to get some goodies on or before August 2nd! SFD Goodies availability is subject to first come first served basis and each pack will include 3 t-shirts, 20 stickers, 10 tshirt transfer labels, 3 dvds, 20 balloons anda 2-meter long banner :-) Registration is very easy, you just need to : 1) create a wiki page of your event under wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011, and then 2) go to http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py to submit your event information. If you have any issue regarding registration, you may read our howto on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage or contact us via email: sfd-discuss(at)sf-day.org or IRC: #sfd @freenode server. If you wonder what is SFD or how to organize or participate in a SFD event? Please go to our website on http://www.softwarefreedomday.org http://softwarefreedomday.org and read our startguide on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide If you already registered your SFD event, all the best to your preparation! Please also help us to promote Software Freedom Day by placing a SFD web banner on your website / blog: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Promote and link back to your SFD event page or softwarefreedomday.org front page. Thank you! -- Pockey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help
Hey Wouter, I think it depends on the animo we can get for it. Every railway station should have its own team (so they can order their own goodie bags - supplies) I'm in Brussels, and hope to find a few more people. If you do the same in Hasselt... great idea for me. I guess you could find 1 or 2 more people to have around you there... Grtz, Jurgen On 07/29/2011 10:47 AM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote: Hey maybe we can do the railroad action again? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReleaseActions If we can manage to get enough people, we might even be able to do Gent, Brussels, and Leuven the same day.. Or am I seeing things to big here? Grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:42:03 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help Oh... what the heck... I'll do something in the Brussels Area. Don't know exactly what yet, and I guess I'll find people to hop on the wagon. Brussels Central Station seems like a good place to have a spot - I'll look in the possibilities for this. Since Brussels is quite central, if you don't have an initiative, you can join on the Brussels SFD. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 07:52 AM, Jean7491 wrote: Hi to all, Preparation of the Software Freedom Day (17/09/2011) is going on. If you intend to participate to this event and wish to organize some activity, the first step is to constitute a small team and to register the team before the 02/08/2011 (to receive a pack of goodies) . See how in the SFD emails. Regards, jean7491 Ubuntu Belgium Events Team Message original Sujet: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help Date : Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:31:19 +0800 De : Pockey Lam poc...@softwarefreedomday.org mailto:poc...@softwarefreedomday.org Répondre à : The SFD marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org Pour : The SFD marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org, sfd-discuss sfd-disc...@sf-day.org mailto:sfd-disc...@sf-day.org Dear everybody, We prepared 200 packs of goodies and we have around 140 teams registered so far. That means we still have five days to get 60 teams! In order to do that we need your help to run a SFD registration is on campaign! Would everyone try to find the contacts of all the local communities in your country and inform them about the SFD registration and ask them to organize and register a SFD event? Let's keep track of the local communities list here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/CommunityList so we can reuse it for the coming years. If you cannot edit the wiki page, please send me an email separately to tell me your wiki login name, I can add you in the MarketingGroup or feel free to send me the list so I can add it for you. I drafted an email to send to local communities, please feel free to modify, localize and send to your local communities. Blogging and microblogging would be great too. I had already contacted 100+ local communities so far and contacting more, will update on the wiki list as next step. With everybody's help, we can definitely bring SFD to more places, so let's do it! If you have other ideas of how to promote SFD to potential organizers, please share them here, we can always do better! *Email* Register your SFD2011 event now -- If you plan to organize a Software Freedom Day (SFD) event this year, but haven't registered yet, you should definitely go to register as soon as possible to get some goodies on or before August 2nd! SFD Goodies availability is subject to first come first served basis and each pack will include 3 t-shirts, 20 stickers, 10 tshirt transfer labels, 3 dvds, 20 balloons anda 2-meter long banner :-) Registration is very easy, you just need to : 1) create a wiki page of your event under wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011, and then 2) go to http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py to submit your event information. If you have any issue regarding registration, you may read our howto on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage or contact us via email: sfd-discuss(at)sf-day.org or IRC: #sfd @freenode server. If you wonder what is SFD or how to organize or participate in a SFD event? Please go to our website on http://www.softwarefreedomday.org http://softwarefreedomday.org and read our startguide on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide If you already registered your SFD event, all the best to your preparation! Please also help us to promote Software Freedom Day by placing a SFD web banner on your website / blog: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Promote and link back to your SFD event page or softwarefreedomday.org front page. Thank
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help
I hope we can manage that, but if I have to choose between Leuven or Hasselt, I think Leuven would have more impact..Possible cities:- BXL- Leuven- Gent- Hasselt- Antwerp - The Student Cities in Wallonia Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:10:55 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help Hey Wouter, I think it depends on the animo we can get for it. Every railway station should have its own team (so they can order their own goodie bags - supplies) I'm in Brussels, and hope to find a few more people. If you do the same in Hasselt... great idea for me. I guess you could find 1 or 2 more people to have around you there... Grtz, Jurgen On 07/29/2011 10:47 AM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote: Hey maybe we can do the railroad action again? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReleaseActions If we can manage to get enough people, we might even be able to do Gent, Brussels, and Leuven the same day.. Or am I seeing things to big here? Grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:42:03 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help Oh... what the heck... I'll do something in the Brussels Area. Don't know exactly what yet, and I guess I'll find people to hop on the wagon. Brussels Central Station seems like a good place to have a spot - I'll look in the possibilities for this. Since Brussels is quite central, if you don't have an initiative, you can join on the Brussels SFD. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 07:52 AM, Jean7491 wrote: Hi to all, Preparation of the Software Freedom Day (17/09/2011) is going on. If you intend to participate to this event and wish to organize some activity, the first step is to constitute a small team and to register the team before the 02/08/2011 (to receive a pack of goodies) . See how in the SFD emails. Regards, jean7491 Ubuntu Belgium Events Team Message original Sujet: [Marketing] SFD Registration is On Campaign - We need your help Date : Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:31:19 +0800 De : Pockey Lam poc...@softwarefreedomday.org mailto:poc...@softwarefreedomday.org Répondre à : The SFD marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org Pour : The SFD marketing committee list market...@sf-day.org mailto:market...@sf-day.org, sfd-discuss sfd-disc...@sf-day.org mailto:sfd-disc...@sf-day.org Dear everybody, We prepared 200 packs of goodies and we have around 140 teams registered so far. That means we still have five days to get 60 teams! In order to do that we need your help to run a SFD registration is on campaign! Would everyone try to find the contacts of all the local communities in your country and inform them about the SFD registration and ask them to organize and register a SFD event? Let's keep track of the local communities list here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/CommunityList so we can reuse it for the coming years. If you cannot edit the wiki page, please send me an email separately to tell me your wiki login name, I can add you in the MarketingGroup or feel free to send me the list so I can add it for you. I drafted an email to send to local communities, please feel free to modify, localize and send to your local communities. Blogging and microblogging would be great too. I had already contacted 100+ local communities so far and contacting more, will update on the wiki list as next step. With everybody's help, we can definitely bring SFD to more places, so let's do it! If you have other ideas of how to promote SFD to potential organizers, please share them here, we can always do better! *Email* Register your SFD2011 event now -- If you plan to organize a Software Freedom Day (SFD) event this year, but haven't registered yet, you should definitely go to register as soon as possible to get some goodies on or before August 2nd! SFD Goodies availability is subject to first come first served basis and each pack will include 3 t-shirts, 20 stickers, 10 tshirt transfer labels, 3 dvds, 20 balloons anda 2-meter long banner :-) Registration is very easy, you just need to : 1) create a wiki page of your event under wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011, and then 2) go to http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py to submit your event information. If you have any issue regarding registration, you may read our howto on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage or contact us via email: sfd-discuss(at)sf-day.org or IRC: #sfd @freenode server. If you wonder what
[Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
Hey, I just launched a SFD event in Brussels - it's as basic as it gets, but it does just what we do best: set up a booth. :) Just looking for some volunteers. So here's the date: Saturday, September 17th Here's the place: Brussel Central Station. As Wouter suggests: if there's enough interest, a similar booth could be set up in other railway stations. So if you find 3 or more people in one city/town who want to do this: give it a shot. Set up a small stand at your railway station (subscribe on the SFD website, it gives you an advantage). If you're interested to participate in Brussels: reply in this thread (and put my in cc). If you're interested in organizing it in another city: announce it here, and put it on the SFD site. Here's the list (for Belgium): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/ Grtz, Jurgen. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can put our stand down? grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:20:41 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Hey, I just launched a SFD event in Brussels - it's as basic as it gets, but it does just what we do best: set up a booth. :) Just looking for some volunteers. So here's the date: Saturday, September 17th Here's the place: Brussel Central Station. As Wouter suggests: if there's enough interest, a similar booth could be set up in other railway stations. So if you find 3 or more people in one city/town who want to do this: give it a shot. Set up a small stand at your railway station (subscribe on the SFD website, it gives you an advantage). If you're interested to participate in Brussels: reply in this thread (and put my in cc). If you're interested in organizing it in another city: announce it here, and put it on the SFD site. Here's the list (for Belgium): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/ Grtz, Jurgen. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
Maybe add a page to the wiki for this.. :s I'll tweet it and put it on FB.. :) From: wouterv...@hotmail.com To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:37:04 +0200 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can put our stand down? grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:20:41 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Hey, I just launched a SFD event in Brussels - it's as basic as it gets, but it does just what we do best: set up a booth. :) Just looking for some volunteers. So here's the date: Saturday, September 17th Here's the place: Brussel Central Station. As Wouter suggests: if there's enough interest, a similar booth could be set up in other railway stations. So if you find 3 or more people in one city/town who want to do this: give it a shot. Set up a small stand at your railway station (subscribe on the SFD website, it gives you an advantage). If you're interested to participate in Brussels: reply in this thread (and put my in cc). If you're interested in organizing it in another city: announce it here, and put it on the SFD site. Here's the list (for Belgium): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/ Grtz, Jurgen. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
I believe there were problems with the NMBS the last action in stations. If I remember correctly. Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 11:37:04 schreef wouter Vandenneucker: I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can put our stand down? grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:20:41 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Hey, I just launched a SFD event in Brussels - it's as basic as it gets, but it does just what we do best: set up a booth. :) Just looking for some volunteers. So here's the date: Saturday, September 17th Here's the place: Brussel Central Station. As Wouter suggests: if there's enough interest, a similar booth could be set up in other railway stations. So if you find 3 or more people in one city/town who want to do this: give it a shot. Set up a small stand at your railway station (subscribe on the SFD website, it gives you an advantage). If you're interested to participate in Brussels: reply in this thread (and put my in cc). If you're interested in organizing it in another city: announce it here, and put it on the SFD site. Here's the list (for Belgium): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/ Grtz, Jurgen. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu-be Digest, Vol 65, Issue 20
here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/CommunityList so we can reuse it for the coming years. If you cannot edit the wiki page, please send me an email separately to tell me your wiki login name, I can add you in the MarketingGroup or feel free to send me the list so I can add it for you. I drafted an email to send to local communities, please feel free to modify, localize and send to your local communities. Blogging and microblogging would be great too. I had already contacted 100+ local communities so far and contacting more, will update on the wiki list as next step. With everybody's help, we can definitely bring SFD to more places, so let's do it! If you have other ideas of how to promote SFD to potential organizers, please share them here, we can always do better! *Email* Register your SFD2011 event now -- If you plan to organize a Software Freedom Day (SFD) event this year, but haven't registered yet, you should definitely go to register as soon as possible to get some goodies on or before August 2nd! SFD Goodies availability is subject to first come first served basis and each pack will include 3 t-shirts, 20 stickers, 10 tshirt transfer labels, 3 dvds, 20 balloons anda 2-meter long banner :-) Registration is very easy, you just need to : 1) create a wiki page of your event under wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011, and then 2) go to http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py to submit your event information. If you have any issue regarding registration, you may read our howto on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage or contact us via email: sfd-discuss(at)sf-day.org or IRC: #sfd @freenode server. If you wonder what is SFD or how to organize or participate in a SFD event? Please go to our website on http://www.softwarefreedomday.org http://softwarefreedomday.org and read our startguide on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide If you already registered your SFD event, all the best to your preparation! Please also help us to promote Software Freedom Day by placing a SFD web banner on your website / blog: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Promote and link back to your SFD event page or softwarefreedomday.org front page. Thank you! -- Pockey -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20110729/dfda5d5f/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:20:41 +0200 From: Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Message-ID: 4e327b69.3030...@pandora.be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hey, I just launched a SFD event in Brussels - it's as basic as it gets, but it does just what we do best: set up a booth. :) Just looking for some volunteers. So here's the date: Saturday, September 17th Here's the place: Brussel Central Station. As Wouter suggests: if there's enough interest, a similar booth could be set up in other railway stations. So if you find 3 or more people in one city/town who want to do this: give it a shot. Set up a small stand at your railway station (subscribe on the SFD website, it gives you an advantage). If you're interested to participate in Brussels: reply in this thread (and put my in cc). If you're interested in organizing it in another city: announce it here, and put it on the SFD site. Here's the list (for Belgium): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/ Grtz, Jurgen. -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:37:04 +0200 From: wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Message-ID: bay157-w27cba1223898d5062c3031d9...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can put our stand down? grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:20:41 +0200 From
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
Really? Damn, that's a pity.. Any idea what the problem was? grts wouter From: g...@linux-service.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:51:50 +0200 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers I believe there were problems with the NMBS the last action in stations. If I remember correctly. Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 11:37:04 schreef wouter Vandenneucker: I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can put our stand down? grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:20:41 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Hey, I just launched a SFD event in Brussels - it's as basic as it gets, but it does just what we do best: set up a booth. :) Just looking for some volunteers. So here's the date: Saturday, September 17th Here's the place: Brussel Central Station. As Wouter suggests: if there's enough interest, a similar booth could be set up in other railway stations. So if you find 3 or more people in one city/town who want to do this: give it a shot. Set up a small stand at your railway station (subscribe on the SFD website, it gives you an advantage). If you're interested to participate in Brussels: reply in this thread (and put my in cc). If you're interested in organizing it in another city: announce it here, and put it on the SFD site. Here's the list (for Belgium): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/ Grtz, Jurgen. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu-be Digest, Vol 65, Issue 20
have five days to get 60 teams! In order to do that we need your help to run a SFD registration is on campaign! Would everyone try to find the contacts of all the local communities in your country and inform them about the SFD registration and ask them to organize and register a SFD event? Let's keep track of the local communities list here: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/MarketingCommittee/CommunityList so we can reuse it for the coming years. If you cannot edit the wiki page, please send me an email separately to tell me your wiki login name, I can add you in the MarketingGroup or feel free to send me the list so I can add it for you. I drafted an email to send to local communities, please feel free to modify, localize and send to your local communities. Blogging and microblogging would be great too. I had already contacted 100+ local communities so far and contacting more, will update on the wiki list as next step. With everybody's help, we can definitely bring SFD to more places, so let's do it! If you have other ideas of how to promote SFD to potential organizers, please share them here, we can always do better! *Email* Register your SFD2011 event now -- If you plan to organize a Software Freedom Day (SFD) event this year, but haven't registered yet, you should definitely go to register as soon as possible to get some goodies on or before August 2nd! SFD Goodies availability is subject to first come first served basis and each pack will include 3 t-shirts, 20 stickers, 10 tshirt transfer labels, 3 dvds, 20 balloons anda 2-meter long banner :-) Registration is very easy, you just need to : 1) create a wiki page of your event under wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011, and then 2) go to http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/cgi-bin/register.py to submit your event information. If you have any issue regarding registration, you may read our howto on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/CreateYourTeampage or contact us via email: sfd-discuss(at)sf-day.org or IRC: #sfd @freenode server. If you wonder what is SFD or how to organize or participate in a SFD event? Please go to our website on http://www.softwarefreedomday.org http://softwarefreedomday.org and read our startguide on http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide If you already registered your SFD event, all the best to your preparation! Please also help us to promote Software Freedom Day by placing a SFD web banner on your website / blog: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Promote and link back to your SFD event page or softwarefreedomday.org front page. Thank you! -- Pockey -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20110729/dfda5d5f/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:20:41 +0200 From: Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Message-ID: 4e327b69.3030...@pandora.be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hey, I just launched a SFD event in Brussels - it's as basic as it gets, but it does just what we do best: set up a booth. :) Just looking for some volunteers. So here's the date: Saturday, September 17th Here's the place: Brussel Central Station. As Wouter suggests: if there's enough interest, a similar booth could be set up in other railway stations. So if you find 3 or more people in one city/town who want to do this: give it a shot. Set up a small stand at your railway station (subscribe on the SFD website, it gives you an advantage). If you're interested to participate in Brussels: reply in this thread (and put my in cc). If you're interested in organizing it in another city: announce it here, and put it on the SFD site. Here's the list (for Belgium): http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Belgium/ Grtz, Jurgen. -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:37:04 +0200 From: wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Message-ID: bay157-w27cba1223898d5062c3031d9...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm going to set up
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
Apparently the problem is that you need asielrecht to organise an event in an NMBS-station. The prices are ridiculous: €600 for a booth (per day) €195 per person who hands out flyers (per day) But it's a different story if you do the same just outside the railway station - on the public road. In that case you need permission of the local authorities. To hand out flyers, that can often happen for free (f.e. in Brussels, except on a few banned places). If you want to do more (f.e. set up a booth), you'll need permission. For doing something public in Brussels like setting up a booth, you need to contact affich...@brucity.be and explain the cause/activity. That's exactly what I'm going to do now. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 11:51 AM, linux-service.be wrote: I believe there were problems with the NMBS the last action in stations. If I remember correctly. Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 11:37:04 schreef wouter Vandenneucker: I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can put our stand down? grts Wouter -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
We might try to get a booth there for free if we can convince them to see it as a sponsorship..http://www.b-rail.be/corporate/N/environment/sponsoring/index.php Samenwerking met een externe partner kan interessant zijn als:er een link is met de trein en/of met andere duurzame mobiliteit;de organisatie/het evenement een rechtsteekse of onrechtstreekse meerwaarde biedt voor onze klanten;de doelstellingen beantwoorden aan de waarden van NMBS (veiligheid, kwaliteit, betrouwbaarheid, beroepseer, creativiteit);de sponsoring in natura (vervoerbewijzen) is. Translated:Working together with an external partner can be interesting if:There is a link to trains and/or other durable mobility;The organisation/the events are a surplus for our customers;The goals merge with the values of NMBS (safety, quality, trustworthiness, Job-honor, creativity);The sponsorship is in natura (traintickets). The NMBS open up a way to be mobile, it's a freedom. SFD is about freedom as well.A FREE and SECURE OS is a surplus for their customers.The sponsorship would be 2m² for a day, that's natura.. + We aren't a commercial organisation, as a matter of fact, we aren't even a Non-profit ATM..I think we need to try 'n do it for free.. From an ethical point they can't object us.. grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:09:48 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Apparently the problem is that you need asielrecht to organise an event in an NMBS-station. The prices are ridiculous: €600 for a booth (per day) €195 per person who hands out flyers (per day) But it's a different story if you do the same just outside the railway station - on the public road. In that case you need permission of the local authorities. To hand out flyers, that can often happen for free (f.e. in Brussels, except on a few banned places). If you want to do more (f.e. set up a booth), you'll need permission. For doing something public in Brussels like setting up a booth, you need to contact affich...@brucity.be and explain the cause/activity. That's exactly what I'm going to do now. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 11:51 AM, linux-service.be wrote: I believe there were problems with the NMBS the last action in stations. If I remember correctly. Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 11:37:04 schreef wouter Vandenneucker: I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can put our stand down? grts Wouter -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
Flashmob comes to mind... happens a lot in Antwerp-Centraal :-) -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
indeed.. those things aren't payed for either.. Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:24:14 +0200 From: ste...@leeman.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Flashmob comes to mind...happens a lot in Antwerp-Centraal :-) -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
Feel free to try it. :) I'm going for public spaces, trying to get in touch with city hall. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 12:20 PM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote: We might try to get a booth there for free if we can convince them to see it as a sponsorship.. http://www.b-rail.be/corporate/N/environment/sponsoring/index.php Samenwerking met een externe partner kan interessant zijn als: * er een link is met de trein en/of met andere duurzame mobiliteit; * de organisatie/het evenement een rechtsteekse of onrechtstreekse meerwaarde biedt voor onze klanten; * de doelstellingen beantwoorden aan de waarden van NMBS (veiligheid, kwaliteit, betrouwbaarheid, beroepseer, creativiteit); * de sponsoring in natura (vervoerbewijzen) is. Translated: Working together with an external partner can be interesting if: * There is a link to trains and/or other durable mobility; * The organisation/the events are a surplus for our customers; * The goals merge with the values of NMBS (safety, quality, trustworthiness, Job-honor, creativity); * The sponsorship is in natura (traintickets). The NMBS open up a way to be mobile, it's a freedom. SFD is about freedom as well. A FREE and SECURE OS is a surplus for their customers. The sponsorship would be 2m² for a day, that's natura.. + We aren't a commercial organisation, as a matter of fact, we aren't even a Non-profit ATM.. I think we need to try 'n do it for free.. From an ethical point they can't object us.. grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:09:48 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Apparently the problem is that you need asielrecht to organise an event in an NMBS-station. The prices are ridiculous: €600 for a booth (per day) €195 per person who hands out flyers (per day) But it's a different story if you do the same just outside the railway station - on the public road. In that case you need permission of the local authorities. To hand out flyers, that can often happen for free (f.e. in Brussels, except on a few banned places). If you want to do more (f.e. set up a booth), you'll need permission. For doing something public in Brussels like setting up a booth, you need to contact affich...@brucity.be and explain the cause/activity. That's exactly what I'm going to do now. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 11:51 AM, linux-service.be wrote: I believe there were problems with the NMBS the last action in stations. If I remember correctly. Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 11:37:04 schreef wouter Vandenneucker: I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can put our stand down? grts Wouter -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers
Somebody who has a linkedIn connection to NMBS CEO? :pActually jurgen has a point.. Any public place in a city should do.. But in Leuven you'd just be yet-another-flyering-person.. Anyhow.. I'll poke around.. :)I'll keep you posted grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:29:02 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Feel free to try it. :) I'm going for public spaces, trying to get in touch with city hall. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 12:20 PM, wouter Vandenneucker wrote: We might try to get a booth there for free if we can convince them to see it as a sponsorship.. http://www.b-rail.be/corporate/N/environment/sponsoring/index.php Samenwerking met een externe partner kan interessant zijn als: * er een link is met de trein en/of met andere duurzame mobiliteit; * de organisatie/het evenement een rechtsteekse of onrechtstreekse meerwaarde biedt voor onze klanten; * de doelstellingen beantwoorden aan de waarden van NMBS (veiligheid, kwaliteit, betrouwbaarheid, beroepseer, creativiteit); * de sponsoring in natura (vervoerbewijzen) is. Translated: Working together with an external partner can be interesting if: * There is a link to trains and/or other durable mobility; * The organisation/the events are a surplus for our customers; * The goals merge with the values of NMBS (safety, quality, trustworthiness, Job-honor, creativity); * The sponsorship is in natura (traintickets). The NMBS open up a way to be mobile, it's a freedom. SFD is about freedom as well. A FREE and SECURE OS is a surplus for their customers. The sponsorship would be 2m² for a day, that's natura.. + We aren't a commercial organisation, as a matter of fact, we aren't even a Non-profit ATM.. I think we need to try 'n do it for free.. From an ethical point they can't object us.. grts Wouter Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:09:48 +0200 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Software Freedom Day - call for volunteers Apparently the problem is that you need asielrecht to organise an event in an NMBS-station. The prices are ridiculous: €600 for a booth (per day) €195 per person who hands out flyers (per day) But it's a different story if you do the same just outside the railway station - on the public road. In that case you need permission of the local authorities. To hand out flyers, that can often happen for free (f.e. in Brussels, except on a few banned places). If you want to do more (f.e. set up a booth), you'll need permission. For doing something public in Brussels like setting up a booth, you need to contact affich...@brucity.be and explain the cause/activity. That's exactly what I'm going to do now. Grtz, Jurgen. On 07/29/2011 11:51 AM, linux-service.be wrote: I believe there were problems with the NMBS the last action in stations. If I remember correctly. Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 11:37:04 schreef wouter Vandenneucker: I'm going to set up one in either Hasselt or Leuven as well.So please let me know if (and where) you can be available. I can't be at 2 places at the same time.. :DIt would even be better if someone else hosts the event in Leuven.. BTW, does anybody know if we have to ask certain people if we can put our stand down? grts Wouter -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] SFD 17 september 2011
Hello, When all the events are planned we have to make some publicity, like make a post with al the event on our facebook-page http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=87950312093 or. so that people know where they can find a ubuntu booth, presentation,. I am trying to do a couple of presentations in the library in Genk, i did a mail to ask if we can have te conferencerooms for 1 or 2 sessions. if anybody wants to help, let me know. Claudio Mammarella ubuntu-be promotor -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: Всех поздравляю с днём системного администратора!
29 июля 2011 г. 11:55 пользователь Александр Ежов csan...@bk.ru написал: *Всех! Всех! Всех! * *Поздравляю с этим замечательным праздником! * Когда компьютер вдруг завис, А принтер зажевал бумагу, И сердце рухнет камнем вниз: Неужто мы сожгли беднягу? Когда терпенья больше нет С программой разбираться нудной, Когда не грузит Интернет То, без чего работать трудно, И вирусы вползли тайком, А мы не можем сладить с ними, Тогда идем мы прямиком К всепонимающему Диме. Бывает он суров порой И может выговор нам сделать, Но знаем мы, что он горой За женщин своего отдела. С уважением, Системный администратор Ежов Александр! -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Всех поздравляю с днём системного администратора!
Ура!!! За Диму!! ;) -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Всех поздравляю с днём системного администратора!
Всех НАС с ПРАЗДНИКОМ!!! 29 июля 2011 г. 13:33 пользователь Андрей Сергеев foxmulder@gmail.comнаписал: Ура!!! За Диму!! ;) -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- С уважением, Просто Хороший Парень -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Всех поздравляю с днём системного администратора!
2011/7/29 Александр Ежов csan...@bk.ru Всех! Всех! Всех! Поздравляю с этим замечательным праздником! +1 P.S.: надеюсь гугол на меня в суд не подаст за такое... -- Serge Matveenko se...@matveenko.ru http://www.ohloh.net/accounts/lig http://ru.linkedin.com/in/sergematveenko -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Всех поздравляю с днём системного администратора!
*Всех с профессиональным праздником! С праздником Ситемного Администратора!* *Урас товарищи, это наш день =)* -- *בברכה, * *אלכס ברבר* *+9 72 54 285 952 3 * *www.linuxspace.org* http://www.linuxspace.org *--* *Best regards.* *Alex Berber* *+9 72 54 285 952 3* *www.linuxspace.org* http://www.linuxspace.org/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Всех поздравляю с днём системного администратора!
Присоединяюсь) 29 июля 2011 г. 13:36 пользователь Alan Holt berber...@gmail.com написал: *Всех с профессиональным праздником! С праздником Ситемного Администратора!* *Урас товарищи, это наш день =)* -- *בברכה, * *אלכס ברבר* *+9 72 54 285 952 3 * *www.linuxspace.org* http://www.linuxspace.org *--* *Best regards.* *Alex Berber* *+9 72 54 285 952 3* *www.linuxspace.org* http://www.linuxspace.org/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- С уважением, Корецкий Виталий Евгеньевич skype: wondertalik icq: 234378746 -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Опции монтирования ntfs
Попробуй так: defaults,umask=007,gid=46,uid=1000,locale=ru_RU.utf8 хотя у меня в убунту все из коробки работает пучком вот вывод команды mount для моего внешнего УСБ /dev/sdb1 on /media/Passport type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions) 2011/7/27 BcTpe4HbIu alluka...@gmail.com Доброго времени суток! Кто подскажет где в Убунте настроить опции авто монтирования дисков. В частности интерисуют параметры для ntfs, тк вместо русского текста получается неверная кодировка. -- С уважением, Голубков Игорь -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- *בברכה, * *אלכס ברבר* *+9 72 54 285 952 3 * *www.linuxspace.org* http://www.linuxspace.org *--* *Best regards.* *Alex Berber* *+9 72 54 285 952 3* *www.linuxspace.org* http://www.linuxspace.org/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Опции монтирования ntfs
Извиняюсь, может криво выразился, но имелись в виду опции, с которыми наутилус моунтит внешние диски. Что то типа http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112683 но для Natty... 29 июля 2011 г. 17:48 пользователь Alan Holt berber...@gmail.com написал: Попробуй так: defaults,umask=007,gid=46,uid=1000,locale=ru_RU.utf8 хотя у меня в убунту все из коробки работает пучком вот вывод команды mount для моего внешнего УСБ /dev/sdb1 on /media/Passport type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions) 2011/7/27 BcTpe4HbIu alluka...@gmail.com Доброго времени суток! Кто подскажет где в Убунте настроить опции авто монтирования дисков. В частности интерисуют параметры для ntfs, тк вместо русского текста получается неверная кодировка. -- С уважением, Голубков Игорь -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- בברכה, אלכס ברבר +9 72 54 285 952 3 www.linuxspace.org -- Best regards. Alex Berber +9 72 54 285 952 3 www.linuxspace.org -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- С уважением, Голубков Игорь -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Всех поздравляю с днём системного администратора!
-=-=-=-=-=- #!/bin/bash cat $list | while read person; do if [ $person ~= sysadmin ]; then echo Поздравляю! $person else echo Хрен тебе! $person fi exit0 -=-=-=-=-=- ) ,-[Александр Ежов, Friday 29 July 2011 11:55]: Всех! Всех! Всех! Поздравляю с этим замечательным праздником! Когда компьютер вдруг завис, А принтер зажевал бумагу, И сердце рухнет камнем вниз: Неужто мы сожгли беднягу? Когда терпенья больше нет С программой разбираться нудной, Когда не грузит Интернет То, без чего работать трудно, И вирусы вползли тайком, А мы не можем сладить с ними, Тогда идем мы прямиком К всепонимающему Диме. Бывает он суров порой И может выговор нам сделать, Но знаем мы, что он горой За женщин своего отдела. ? С уважением, Системный администратор Ежов Александр! -- __ mpd status: [playing] Black Sabbath - Children Of The Sea ** * jabber: devil_ins...@jabber.ru * * Registered linux user #450844* ** -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Опции монтирования ntfs
Про такие опции никогда не слышал, в своем gconf-editor ничег подобного не нашел но факт, что существует файл booch@alexlinux:~$ nano /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/25-ntfs-3g-policy.fdi где можно посмотреть кое-какие опции настройки. Мне кажется ты можешь сделать простой скрипт с mount или использовать fstab для монтирование, эффект должен быть тот же. еще попробуй программу: sudo apt-get install pysdm там есть настройки опций монтирования и прочие еще есть прога ntfs-config 2011/7/29 BcTpe4HbIu alluka...@gmail.com Извиняюсь, может криво выразился, но имелись в виду опции, с которыми наутилус моунтит внешние диски. Что то типа http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112683 но для Natty... 29 июля 2011 г. 17:48 пользователь Alan Holt berber...@gmail.com написал: Попробуй так: defaults,umask=007,gid=46,uid=1000,locale=ru_RU.utf8 хотя у меня в убунту все из коробки работает пучком вот вывод команды mount для моего внешнего УСБ /dev/sdb1 on /media/Passport type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions) 2011/7/27 BcTpe4HbIu alluka...@gmail.com Доброго времени суток! Кто подскажет где в Убунте настроить опции авто монтирования дисков. В частности интерисуют параметры для ntfs, тк вместо русского текста получается неверная кодировка. -- С уважением, Голубков Игорь -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- בברכה, אלכס ברבר +9 72 54 285 952 3 www.linuxspace.org -- Best regards. Alex Berber +9 72 54 285 952 3 www.linuxspace.org -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- С уважением, Голубков Игорь -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- *בברכה, * *אלכס ברבר* *+9 72 54 285 952 3 * *www.linuxspace.org* http://www.linuxspace.org *--* *Best regards.* *Alex Berber* *+9 72 54 285 952 3* *www.linuxspace.org* http://www.linuxspace.org/ -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Всех поздравляю с днём системного администратора!
Александру Ежову респект за оригинальность! И поздравляю всех! а сам сегодня до 12 ночи разбирался с машиной в аварии и страховкой( 29.07.11, -=Devil_InSide=-devil_ins...@mail.ru написал(а): -=-=-=-=-=- #!/bin/bash cat $list | while read person; do if [ $person ~= sysadmin ]; then echo Поздравляю! $person else echo Хрен тебе! $person fi exit0 -=-=-=-=-=- ) ,-[Александр Ежов, Friday 29 July 2011 11:55]: Всех! Всех! Всех! Поздравляю с этим замечательным праздником! Когда компьютер вдруг завис, А принтер зажевал бумагу, И сердце рухнет камнем вниз: Неужто мы сожгли беднягу? Когда терпенья больше нет С программой разбираться нудной, Когда не грузит Интернет То, без чего работать трудно, И вирусы вползли тайком, А мы не можем сладить с ними, Тогда идем мы прямиком К всепонимающему Диме. Бывает он суров порой И может выговор нам сделать, Но знаем мы, что он горой За женщин своего отдела. ? С уважением, Системный администратор Ежов Александр! -- __ mpd status: [playing] Black Sabbath - Children Of The Sea ** * jabber: devil_ins...@jabber.ru * * Registered linux user #450844* ** -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Всех поздравляю с днём системного администратора!
-=Devil InSide=- devil_ins...@mail.ru writes: #!/bin/bash cat $list | while read person; do UUoC. Должно быть: while read person ; do и $list после done. (Если, конечно, $list содержит имя одного файла, а не нескольких, разделенных пробелами.) if [ $person ~= sysadmin ]; then Любопытно, в каком Shell test умеет ~=? echo Поздравляю! $person Кроме того, желательно $person, чтобы избежать проблем в случае, если person содержит пробельные (согласно $IFS) символы. else echo Хрен тебе! $person Аналогично. fi Более того, $person можно «вынести» за if, подобно: if … ; then … ; else … ; fi $person Да, забыто done: done $list exit0 Пробел после exit? -- FSF associate member #7257 -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Ubuntu Russian(?) Remix
Всем здравствуйте! Хотелось бы обсудить с вами создание аналога Ubuntu Russian Remix, который, судя по всему, больше не поддерживается. Вот список целей, необходимость которых нужно решить: * Создание русскоязычной сборки Ubuntu, отличающейся от оригинальной только наличием русской локализации из каробки. * Создание расширенных DVD-изданий, содержащих необходимых набор программ. Собственно, зачем нужны подобные сборки: все просто -- возможность установить Ubuntu без интернета, но при этом снабженную необходимым набором софта и пакетов локализации из коробки. -- С уважением, Даниил. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
Re: Ubuntu Russian(?) Remix
30 июля 2011 г. 12:55 пользователь Alexandr Chernov chaldon...@gmail.comнаписал: 30 июля 2011 г. 11:41 пользователь Даниил Рыжков daniil...@gmail.comнаписал: Всем здравствуйте! Хотелось бы обсудить с вами создание аналога Ubuntu Russian Remix, который, судя по всему, больше не поддерживается. Вот список целей, необходимость которых нужно решить: * Создание русскоязычной сборки Ubuntu, отличающейся от оригинальной только наличием русской локализации из каробки. * Создание расширенных DVD-изданий, содержащих необходимых набор программ. Собственно, зачем нужны подобные сборки: все просто -- возможность установить Ubuntu без интернета, но при этом снабженную необходимым набором софта и пакетов локализации из коробки. -- С уважением, Даниил. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru Велосипед уже изобретён. Это Runtu. http://forum.runtu.org/index.php/board,29.0.html В Runtu приоритетом пользуются LTS дистрибутивы Ubuntu. Но и промежуточные релизы тоже не остаются без внимания. -- ubuntu-ru mailing list ubuntu-ru@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ru
[Bug 165184] Re: amavisd-new + spamassassin: cronjob spams root user
In fact the problem is not fixed. It's workaround that doesn't give fix the underlying problem. The real solution would be to check if use_bayes is set to 0. If it is set like that, it shouldn't run the cleaning job. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to amavisd-new in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/165184 Title: amavisd-new + spamassassin: cronjob spams root user To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/165184/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 817190] Re: other programs don't work right after installing guest machine drives
know what? I got impatient, so first I tried recompiling the kernel, then when that didn't work I just upgraded to 11.04 and right now I am actually in kde, reinstalling gnome. I'm not sure if it will still help this cause but once gnome is reinstalled, I'll try logging into it and running the bug as you say. Sorry. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/817190 Title: other programs don't work right after installing guest machine drives To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/817190/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 814819] Re: Update to antlr3 version 3.2
Is there actually any reason why jython is in main? It's rdepends appear to be in universe. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to antlr3 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/814819 Title: Update to antlr3 version 3.2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/antlr3/+bug/814819/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 165184] Re: amavisd-new + spamassassin: cronjob spams root user
/usr/sbin/amavisd-new-cronjob could be changed to check if use_bayes is set to 0: sa-clean) grep -q use_bayes 0 /etc/spamassassin/local.cf || do_amavis_cmd /usr/bin/sa-learn --sync --force-expire ;; Or it can be checked for in cron.daily/amavisd-new in a similar way. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to amavisd-new in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/165184 Title: amavisd-new + spamassassin: cronjob spams root user To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/165184/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 814819] Re: Update to antlr3 version 3.2
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 08:23 +, Andrew Ross wrote: Is there actually any reason why jython is in main? It's rdepends appear to be in universe. ant - libbsf-java - jython - liblog4j1.2-java - libmx4j-java - jython All in main (no plans to demote ant) -- James Page Ubuntu Server Developer -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to antlr3 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/814819 Title: Update to antlr3 version 3.2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/antlr3/+bug/814819/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint server-o-hadoop] Provide Cloudera Hadoop packages (CDH3)
Blueprint changed by James Page: Whiteboard changed: Packaging Review: See http://pad.ubuntu.com/cloudera-hadoop-packaging UDS-O Session Notes: first pass packaing done in ppa. needs to be checked for archive compatibility questions over quality of packaging. Target: CDH3 for 11.10 Cloudera are recommending java-[oracle|sun] Would need to be validated on OpenJDK to be in the archive CDH3 has issues running on OpenJDK (tested by fedora on openjdk6 OK, doesn't run in openjdk7) * If requirement on [oracle|sun]jdk is real and hard, then Partner or PPA repo is probably the best we can do * Else, if we can get a commitment for help getting Hadoop working on OpenJDK, then we can and should target Ubuntu Universe In order to determine if we need to work on putting CDH in Universe or main, we need to work on how we can add visibility to modules in orchestra - who controls the list? - what rules to accept new items? - how is it published? If the above allow for this list to contain stuff from ppa/partner, then the universe/main requirement would be pretty low Work items (oneiric-alpha-2): [james-page] Review packaging to date and work with iamfuzz: DONE [kirkland] Discuss with Cloudera the build/runtime dependencies with [oracle|sun]jdk: INPROGRESS Work items: - ensemble formula for deploying hadoop: TODO - orchestra recipe for deploying hadoop: TODO + [negronjl] ensemble formula for deploying hadoop: TODO -- Provide Cloudera Hadoop packages (CDH3) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-hadoop -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 782291] Re: reboot in a container gets somehow stuck
I am back to using FreeBSD jails. The initial message of the bug report says I was using lxc-create -t natty. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to lxc in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/782291 Title: reboot in a container gets somehow stuck To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/782291/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 211631] Re: Network is brought down before network filesystems are unmounted (CIFS timeout at shutdown)
found a better fix via /etc/init/dbus.conf add the pre-stop script: pre-stop script trap TERM signal TERM /bin/umount -a -t cifs -f -l trap - TERM end script It works for me and few tested notebooks and desktop PC. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 Title: Network is brought down before network filesystems are unmounted (CIFS timeout at shutdown) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/211631/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 816758] Re: Cant type some characters in readline()
http://www.thrysoee.dk/editline/ The page says UTF-8 support was added since version 0:35. Needs to be enabled with 'configure --enable-widec'. ** Also affects: php5 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to php5 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/816758 Title: Cant type some characters in readline() To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libedit/+bug/816758/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint server-o-syslog-information] Thoughts about controlling the syslog firehose for Ubuntu Server
Blueprint changed by James Page: Whiteboard changed: Work Items for oneiric-alpha-2: - File an ITP for octopussy in Debian: TODO + [james-page] File an ITP for octopussy in Debian: INPROGRESS [gandelman-a] Write puppet module for central rsyslog server: INPROGRESS [gandelman-a] Write puppet module for rsyslog client: INPROGRESS Work Items: Investigate sane defaults for central rsyslog server: TODO - Package octopussy for Ubuntu: TODO - Upload octopussy for Ubuntu: TODO - Upload octopussy for Debian: TODO + [james-page] Package octopussy for Ubuntu: INPRORESS + [james-page] Upload octopussy for Ubuntu: TODO + [james-page] Upload octopussy for Debian: TODO -- Thoughts about controlling the syslog firehose for Ubuntu Server https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-syslog-information -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
