Packaging: Project can't be compiled from svn with ubuntu-tools but from tarballs it can
Hi, I don't know if this is the right place to ask, so please give me a hint where to do so if it is not. I've recently taken over the packaging for the gnome-globalmenu team, at least until the former packager will have some more spare time again. The problem is the following: When building from svn, the package requires vala in either version 0.5.6 or 0.6.x to create a dist-tarball and/or binaries (none of the mentioned packages is officially available in one of the released ubuntu versions, jaunty includes broken 0.5.7 and vala team has already started packaging 0.7.0 which will fail, too). But once created a dist-tarball, the package will compile without vala at all. The configure script is still checking for vala, but it could be patched to stop doing so (this would cause that there won't be any dependency on valac at build-time, which should be a good thing for the build-machines, too). Because gnome-globalmenu-packaging should be in a state that would possibly allow to include it in a release jaunty+1, my question is how to deal with it. Would it be conform to the policies when building source from svn will not be possible with ubuntu provided tools? Would it be against the packaging-policies to patch the configure script to get rid of valac-dependency? If so, would a comment in debian/Readme.source be enough to clarify the problem to users who want to build svn source? Thanks in advance for Your help, regards, Gert -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
mirror moved, apt-get/aptitude barfs
Today I finally got to the bottom of why apt-get/aptitude update was failing. The owner of an Australian mirror has moved the files to a different server. Apart from updating the sources.list, and updating the bug that supplied the URL to the mirror in the first place, apt-get doesn't appear to be following a 302 redirect. Is this expected, normal behaviour, or am I seeing something unusual? Is there anything that the mirror operator has neglected to do, or something else? The ISP is Australia's largest, Telstra BigPond: The original mirror (203.46.104.10) was: * http://mirror.gamearena.com.au/ubuntu/ The new mirror (203.46.104.19) is now: * http://mirror.files.bigpond.com/ubuntu/ Comments, suggestions? -- Onno Benschop Connected via Bigpond NextG at S31°54'06 - E115°50'39 (Yokine, WA) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - o...@itmaze.com.au -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: gnome-pilot 2.0.17 released in January, Ubuntu still shipping 2.0.15
2009/3/26 Sense Hofstede se...@qense.nl: 2009/3/26 Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com: Hello Matt, Matt Davey [2009-03-05 16:27 +]: I hope this is the right list for contacting the Ubuntu gnome-pilot packager. It's pretty undermaintained in Ubuntu, I'm afraid. I'm looking into the update now, I openend https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-pilot/+bug/348940 to track it. I'd appreciate some people who could test it, since I can't, and nobody in #ubuntu-desktop has a Palm device either. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt | http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss Hello, I'm the owner of a Palm Z22. I'll see what I can do this weekend. I hope I can be of use. Are there still severe bugs in the program? I can't afford to lose the device and its data. Regards, -- Sense Hofstede http://www.qense.nl/ Hello, I've tested the program a bit and couldn't find any bugs for now. It seems fine. Regards, -- Sense Hofstede http://www.qense.nl/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Jaunty python upgrade prevents pygtk apps from working
This morning python2.6 version 2.6.1-1ubuntu5 made it in to Jaunty after being held for a few days for the freeze. Unfortunately this package contained an ABI break that meant some python extensions no longer worked, most notably pygtk. In other words if you installed this version you would see some apps fail to start with a message undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8. Most importantly update-manager was affected, making it harder to upgrade to a fixed version. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/+bug/349467/ Access to the bad packages was blocked, which is why you might have seen 403 errors if you attempted to upgrade this morning, and fixed packages have been uploaded as version 2.6.1-1ubuntu5.1. To find out if you have the bad version of the package installed you can run dpkg -l python2.6 | cat If the version is not 2.6.1-1ubuntu5 then you are unaffected, you should just be sure that you don't install that version if it is still accessible on your mirror. If you do have the bad version installed then you can upgrade using apt-get. sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade The fixed packages have only just been made available on the primary mirror, so you may need to wait a few hours before they can become available. Thanks, James -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
lxde and nm-applet situation is worse: Jaunty python upgrade prevents pygtk apps from working
Well, i'm not yet using Jaunty (still on Interpid) - and i got an annoying situation having both LXDE and Gnome installed - a dependence named lxnm, not only it's not working, as well it removes by conflict nm-applet (network-manager-gnome package), and if we insist reinstalling LXDE, we take the risk on being completelly offline (if we only have wireless access), like happened to me. I think it were a MOTU 'disaster' on marking lxnm package as conflicting with network-manager-gnome I commented it at the LXDE mailing list, and they didn't like it at all as well I hope this situation can be fixed soon - and helping people who want to use LXDE working with nm-applet (network-manager-gnome package), or having the freedom of choice - even from a larger wireless managers diversity (which may help us to know which ones are the very better) -- Another thing: i were having difficulties on booting the Jaunty live-cd on a Macbook 2,0 - got completelly blank after usplash boot - please try asap also... thanks! Paulo - On 3/27/09, James Westby james.wes...@ubuntu.com wrote: This morning python2.6 version 2.6.1-1ubuntu5 made it in to Jaunty after being held for a few days for the freeze. Unfortunately this package contained an ABI break that meant some python extensions no longer worked, most notably pygtk. In other words if you installed this version you would see some apps fail to start with a message undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8. Most importantly update-manager was affected, making it harder to upgrade to a fixed version. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/+bug/349467/ Access to the bad packages was blocked, which is why you might have seen 403 errors if you attempted to upgrade this morning, and fixed packages have been uploaded as version 2.6.1-1ubuntu5.1. To find out if you have the bad version of the package installed you can run dpkg -l python2.6 | cat If the version is not 2.6.1-1ubuntu5 then you are unaffected, you should just be sure that you don't install that version if it is still accessible on your mirror. If you do have the bad version installed then you can upgrade using apt-get. sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade The fixed packages have only just been made available on the primary mirror, so you may need to wait a few hours before they can become available. Thanks, James -- ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list ubuntu-devel-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-announce -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
problems updating lxde and gnome, both installed
Hi! i have both gnome and lxde installed, and i got problems from the last update - lxnm seems to have conflict with the package had nm-applet, and got both uninstalled, and so, i got without internet connection and since lxnm has only a script, i really don't know how conflictable is this package - i used nm-applet on lxde for a long time, and never had problems with it - and i'm all the time from gdm changing the boot between gnome and lxde, which situation got hugelly problematic when lxnm package were told to conflict with nm-applet this recalls years ago when we also couldn't have both gnome and kde installed together... i hope this situation can be fixed soon, and sorry not being able to help... cheers, Paulo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
amsn maintainer AWOL?
Hi list, I have no idea if this is the right place to send this but here goes. For months amsn has been broken, the filed bug contains a fix for the problem but it has yet to reach the users. If the amsn maintainer is indeed AWOL we the amsn users would greatly appriciate if someone could commit the fix and issue an update so that we might once again enjoy working webcam support via MSN. Being that amsn is one of few if not the only application to support this critical feature it is a big shame to see it go unloved for so long. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amsn/+bug/314805 Kind regards, David Nielsen -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Bug in libapache2-mod-python 3.3.1-3 (amd64 binary)
Hello! I wish to inform you about bug. I've installed libapache2-mod-python 3.3.1-2build1 (amd64 binary) and everything worked fine, after the upgrade to version 3.3.1-3 Apache don`t run. Crash line 185. My operation system Ubuntu 8.10 intrepid (Descktop)/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Whither Ekiga 3.2.0 in Jaunty?
Ekiga 3.2.0 sources have been uploaded to Jaunty but it isn't built yet. I am not sure what is going on there. I will check into it. --Ken On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 23:37 -0700, David Fox wrote: I've been looking to test the new 3.2.0 version of ekiga on my Jaunty installation. I upgraded to jaunty some time ago for other reasons, and I have 3.0.1 installed (plus self-compiled 3.2.0 in /usr/local). I'm eager to check out the official ubuntu version, and I've gotten the announce on jaunty-changes a few days ago, and my system is fully up to dat4, yet ekiga never got installed. I don't see any apt activity since 3.0.1 came through on the dist-upgrade from Ibex to Jaunty. All the other packages that were installable over the last few days got installed but the new ekiga, it seems. -- Ken VanDine Ubuntu - Linux for human beings | www.ubuntu.com -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Packaging Training Sessions
Just wondering whether these training sessions be available online to be
viewed at a later time?! The reason I ask is because in the time zone (US
EST) where I live most of the sessions are either early in the morning or
during working hours.
Thanks,
Anand.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Daniel Holbach
daniel.holb...@ubuntu.comwrote:
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Hello everybody,
the Ubuntu Developer Community is proud to announce the following new
initiative to help YOU find your way into developing Ubuntu.
Thursday is from now on Packaging Training day. We'll have regular
one-hour sessions in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net where we'll
have speakers who present a packaging technique and leave enough time
for all packaging related questions you might have.
For those of you who are not familiar enough with the English language,
we'll have people in #ubuntu-classroom-{de,es,...} who will help to
translate your questions.
We will rotate session times to make sure the sessions work for all
timezones. We'll follow a 1st Thursday 6:00 UTC, 2nd Thursday 12:00 UTC,
3rd Thursday 18:00 UTC, 4th Thursday 0:00 UTC (5th Thursday 6:00 UTC)
pattern. For the first month April, we're proud to announce the
following sessions:
* 2nd April, 06:00 UTC: Daniel Holbach, Fixing an Ubuntu bug
* 9th April, 12:00 UTC: James Westby, bzr builddeb –in-15-minutes
* 16th April, 18:00 UTC: Didier Roche, How-to update a package
* 23rd April, 00:00 UTC: Tutor, TBA
* 30th April, 06:00 UTC: Daniel Holbach, Getting Started with Ubuntu
Development
If you want to give a session, request a session, help out as a
translator, share your comments, help with the organisation or anything
else, please head over to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training
and let us know.
These sessions are going to be what we make of them, so let's make the
most out of them! Rock on everybody and see you on Thursday! :-)
The Packaging Training Organisation Team
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X.org glossary (Was Re: Announcing the Next Ubuntu Hug Day! - April 02 2009)
Ever wondered why your pipe-A underruns and your EQ overflows? These and other cryptic X.org error terms now have a handy glossary available from the Ubuntu-X wiki, put together with Jesse Barnes' help for all you bug triagers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Glossary See you for Hug Day Thursday! Bryce On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 03:54:25PM -0400, Pedro Villavicencio Garrido wrote: Fellow Ubuntu Triagers! This week's HugDay target is *drum roll please* xorg-server and xserver-xorg-video-intel! * 49 New bugs need a hug. * 103 Incomplete bugs need a status check. * 81 Confirmed bugs need a review. * 16 Bugs with patches that need to be reviewed. Bookmark it, add it to your calendars, turn over those egg-timers! * April 02 2009 * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090402 Can't stress it enough: everyone can help! Have some time? Triage boogz! I won't be upset if you get a headstart~ ;) Have a blog? Blog about Hugday! Have some screen space? Open #ubuntu-bugs and keep an eye out for newcomers in need. Have minions? Teach THEM to triage for you! :) Wanna be famous? Is easy! remember to use 5-A-day so if you do a good work your name could be listed at the top 5-A-Day Contributors in the Ubuntu Hall of Fame page! Make a difference; we will be in #ubuntu-bugs (FreeNode) all day and night, and will be ready to answer your questions about how to help. If you're new to all this, head to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs Have a nice day, pedro. -- ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list ubuntu-devel-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-announce -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
OSS survey
Please allow this advertisement for OSS study. Thank you! --- Dear open source developers, I am Eunyoung Chung, a Masters student working with Dr. Jensen at Oregon State University. We are currently doing a research project in collaboration with Dr. Truong and Ph.D student Koji Yatani at University of Toronto. Our goal is to understand how contributors communicate and collaborate in Open Source Software (OSS) projects, including diagramming practices. We are seeking volunteers for a quick survey on this topic. Any person who is actively working on a OSS project is eligible. The survey takes approximately 10-15 minutes, and the 5 volunteers will be picked to receive a $30 Amazon gift certificate. Your participation is anonymous (unless you consent to have us contact you) Here is the survey address. https://secure.engr.oregonstate.edu/limesurvey/58564/lang-en We really appreciate your help! -- Eunyoung Chung -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
evolution/evolution-exchagne 2.26 in 8.10
hi, (please cc to me as well in replies) Any chance and timeframe of getting evolution 2.26 in ubuntu 8.10? Specially handy for the exchange 2007 support which it supposidly is having as new feature. regards, -- drs. A. (Andor) Demarteau IT Security Consultant opensource advocate long-term linux user mobile: available upon request email: an...@nl.linux.org -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu localization issues aren't fixed for ages
Year passed already - with no results. What's the matter with Ubuntu? On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihar.hrachys...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Ubunters! I'm Ihar Hrachyshka, Belarusian Latin i18n team coordinator (GNOME, GNU tools etc.) We've made a great l10n effort on GNOME, and now our language has 72% of translated messages as of today. And the pitty thing is that the main GNOME/Linux distribution (Ubuntu it's called) ignores the existance of the translations. For now, we don't have our language in Language Selector tool (bug #146681), no locale files (bug #157654), obsolete locale for another @alternative flavor of Belarusian language (bug #119122) and, of course, no Belarusian Latin support for Launchpad (bug #29800). If some of these bugs would be fixed that would be great. Doesn't Ubuntu state on its disc boxes that it includes the very best translations... that the free software community has to offer? Please, just show us that's true :) Thanks for help. -- Free feel to contact with me through this email, Best regards, Ihar Hrachyshka aka booxter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Bug in package broffice.org_1%3a3.0.1-7ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb
Hello. I am brazilian and I don't speak English. The package broffice.org_1%3a3.0.1-7ubuntu1~intrepid1_all don't install in Ubuntu Intrepid. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Whither Ekiga 3.2.0 in Jaunty?
I've been looking to test the new 3.2.0 version of ekiga on my Jaunty installation. I upgraded to jaunty some time ago for other reasons, and I have 3.0.1 installed (plus self-compiled 3.2.0 in /usr/local). I'm eager to check out the official ubuntu version, and I've gotten the announce on jaunty-changes a few days ago, and my system is fully up to dat4, yet ekiga never got installed. I don't see any apt activity since 3.0.1 came through on the dist-upgrade from Ibex to Jaunty. All the other packages that were installable over the last few days got installed but the new ekiga, it seems. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
BUG: gcc optimizer
g++ (Ubuntu 4.3.2-2ubuntu11) 4.3.3 20090111 (prerelease)
// Check what you get to tell SUCCESS/FAILURE:
//
// SUCCESS: g++ test.cpp
// invalid cast from type 'uint16_t' to type 'uint16_t'
//
// FAILURE: g++ -O2 test.cpp
// invalid cast from type 'unsigned int' to type 'uint16_t'
// from htons ??
//
#include arpa/inet.h // for htons
void
test(uint16_t version)
{
version = reinterpret_castuint16_t(htons(version));
}
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hotkey-setup 0.1-23ubuntu10
Hello, last update for hotkey-setup is buggy. hotkey-setup script is syntacticaly not correct lacks fi. Best regards Lukasz Kurylo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Ubuntu autofs and module-init-tools contacts
Hi all, I'm constructing a list of maintainers to include in discussion about a kernel change to the autofs and autofs4 kernel modules that I expect to submit some time in the future. It has the potential to be fairly disruptive and that is the point of trying to stimulate prior discussion and awareness. Your package web pages don't have individual maintainers for the above packages. If you wish to be included in the discussion of this change please advise me of an appropriate contact. Ian Kent -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
State of Emulation on Ubuntu.
Right now, I think the state of emulators in Ubuntu is pathetic. Most of the emulators are out of date in the repositories, and most aren't even included. I'd love to start building debs for the more popular emulators (zsnes, pcsx2, psx, epsxe, vba, etc.) I'm fairly new to building deb's though, so I was hoping someone would be able to help? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Apt-urls and PackageKit
Hi All, Jef Spaleta from the Fedora Project commented on my recent apt-url blog post, noting the following: Just an FYI: Packagekit developers have developed a packagekit browser plugin which does something similar. If/when Ubuntu moves to Packagekit you should be aware of how the Packagekit browser plugin works so as to make an assessment of how to handle the migration of the wiki urls in an coordinated manner with a transition to PackageKit. And more forward looking, you might be interested in the recent discussion about how to take SuSE's one-click-install concept and apply it to the distribution-neutral PackageKit platform so that people can also easily install new repositories as well as packages from configured repositories. Something ppa creators and consumers might be interested in as a technology. I thought I should pass this along. Thanks, all. Jim -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Apt-urls and PackageKit
2009/4/9 Jim Campbell jwcampb...@ubuntu.com: [...] so that people can also easily install new repositories [...] This is provided since quite some time by apturl but is disabled because of concerns from several developers (disclaimer: I'm just explaining, no intention to start the discussion again :P). -- Siegfried-Angel Gevatter Pujals (RainCT) Ubuntu Developer. Debian Contributor. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: mirror moved, apt-get/aptitude barfs
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Onno Benschop o...@itmaze.com.au wrote: Today I finally got to the bottom of why apt-get/aptitude update was failing. The owner of an Australian mirror has moved the files to a different server. Apart from updating the sources.list, and updating the bug that supplied the URL to the mirror in the first place, apt-get doesn't appear to be following a 302 redirect. Is it really a 302 redirect? Typing http://mirror.gamearena.com.au/ubuntu/ in browser it looks like meta-refresh based redirect. Is this expected, normal behaviour, or am I seeing something unusual? Is there anything that the mirror operator has neglected to do, or something else? The ISP is Australia's largest, Telstra BigPond: The original mirror (203.46.104.10) was: http://mirror.gamearena.com.au/ubuntu/ The new mirror (203.46.104.19) is now: http://mirror.files.bigpond.com/ubuntu/ The mirror (old or new) is not listed in the official list on page - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors From where did you come to know about the mirror? Onkar -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu autofs and module-init-tools contacts
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 15:24 +0800, Ian Kent wrote: I'm constructing a list of maintainers to include in discussion about a kernel change to the autofs and autofs4 kernel modules that I expect to submit some time in the future. It has the potential to be fairly disruptive and that is the point of trying to stimulate prior discussion and awareness. Your package web pages don't have individual maintainers for the above packages. If you wish to be included in the discussion of this change please advise me of an appropriate contact. I maintain our module-init-tools packages, however we try and limit our packages to only contain the upstream source code and no option overrides (which are better done inside the modules). Scott -- Scott James Remnant sc...@canonical.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: State of Emulation on Ubuntu.
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 5:43:45 am Chris wrote: Right now, I think the state of emulators in Ubuntu is pathetic. Most of the emulators are out of date in the repositories, and most aren't even included. I'd love to start building debs for the more popular emulators (zsnes, pcsx2, psx, epsxe, vba, etc.) I'm fairly new to building deb's though, so I was hoping someone would be able to help? If you've got questions, I can try to answer them. I'm not so great at packaging yet, but if you're just updating packages, I know about that. Splitting one tarball up into a library package, a doc package, common, and the package itself, thoughthat's something I'm still learning. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: evolution/evolution-exchagne 2.26 in 8.10
On Friday 10 April 2009 10:03:49 am drs. A. Demarteau wrote: hi, (please cc to me as well in replies) Any chance and timeframe of getting evolution 2.26 in ubuntu 8.10? Specially handy for the exchange 2007 support which it supposidly is having as new feature. 2.26 is is in 9.04. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu autofs and module-init-tools contacts
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 23:25 +0800, Ian Kent wrote: The change I'm planning on proposing is to remove the autofs kernel module and rename the autofs4 module to autofs. This has implications for older modprobe code in init scripts as a MODULE_ALIAS() can't do the whole job and an alias will need to be added to the module-init-tools configuration. Of course 2.6.31 (or more probably later) is probably a long way away for many distributions, but raising awareness early can't be a bad thing. Also, knowing who to contact (blame) is a good thing too. Why can't MODULE_ALIAS do the whole job? You can do everything with MODULE_ALIAS() that you can do with an alias line in module-init-tools. We have eliminated them all, and are not really looking to put any back ;) Scott -- Scott James Remnant sc...@canonical.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: State of Emulation on Ubuntu.
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 05:43 -0400, Chris wrote: Right now, I think the state of emulators in Ubuntu is pathetic. Most of the emulators are out of date in the repositories, and most aren't even included. I'd love to start building debs for the more popular emulators (zsnes, pcsx2, psx, epsxe, vba, etc.) I'm fairly new to building deb's though, so I was hoping someone would be able to help? If you are dipping your toe into the wonderful world of packaging. You may wish to look at the wiki and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu autofs and module-init-tools contacts
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 00:31 +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
My initial testing showed that this didn't work in all cases I checked.
The only reason we need anything at all is backward compatibility.
The whole idea here is to get rid of the need to manually load the
autofs module at all.
It's especially important that any auto-loading aliases are *only* done
inside the module. We've had several bugs where auto-loading aliases
were hacked using module-init-tools options files, and they had got out
of date with the kernel, so stopped working.
(Most notably, the floppy module)
A recent audit of all of the module-init-tools options we carried ended
up revealing that the number that were still applicable could actually
be counted with single digits out of literally a hundred different
lines.
So I'd definitely suggest not considering it an option worth taking.
I know the driver core system very well, so I'd be more than happy to
help you figure out the best way to do things. In general, it's easy
though.
Each subsystem exports a MODALIAS string that matches devices found on
that subsystem, your module can gain wildcard aliases to match through
the use of the MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE macro.
In addition, there are other magic classes of aliases such as the
{char,block}-major-nnn-yyy style aliases which cause auto-loading on
device node open - these also have kernel macros (one per block) to
support them.
And if all else fails, you can always just use MODULE_ALIAS() to add
your own custom alias - which is exactly equivalent to an alias line for
modprobe (indeed they get *turned into them*).
You mention compatibility, one additional compelling reason for not
doing things in config files is actually compatibility. You say that
module names are changing, etc.
If you do things in configuration files, you have a lot of complexity to
support a system which might be running an older kernel version or the
newer one (or indeed, a system which switches between the two).
If you do things in-module, then whichever kernel the user boots *will
still work* because the in-module configuration is used *for that kernel
only*.
Scott
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Re: mirror moved, apt-get/aptitude barfs
On 14/04/09 22:40, Onkar Shinde wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Onno Benschop o...@itmaze.com.au wrote: Today I finally got to the bottom of why apt-get/aptitude update was failing. The owner of an Australian mirror has moved the files to a different server. Apart from updating the sources.list, and updating the bug that supplied the URL to the mirror in the first place, apt-get doesn't appear to be following a 302 redirect. Is it really a 302 redirect? Typing http://mirror.gamearena.com.au/ubuntu/ in browser it looks like meta-refresh based redirect. When I do an apt-get update the error returned is 302 Found - going to the URL in a web-browser was what brought the understanding that there was something else going on - and I saw the meta redirect there too. I just did another test, if I visit: http://mirror.gamearena.com.au/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz That redirects with a 302 Found to: http://mirror.gamearena.com.au/ Which has the meta redirect on it. Seems that the mirror itself is just redirecting everything to the same URL, rather than to the new location as a 302 indicates. Perhaps a 404 Not Found would be more appropriate? Is this expected, normal behaviour, or am I seeing something unusual? Is there anything that the mirror operator has neglected to do, or something else? The ISP is Australia's largest, Telstra BigPond: The original mirror (203.46.104.10) was: http://mirror.gamearena.com.au/ubuntu/ The new mirror (203.46.104.19) is now: http://mirror.files.bigpond.com/ubuntu/ The mirror (old or new) is not listed in the official list on page - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors From where did you come to know about the mirror? The mirror has been around for a while and references to it are found in various Australian forums, most notably, whirlpool. I've just posted a message to the Bigpond and Linux/BSD forums there to advise users that this mirror has changed. As for an official status, I had added it to a similar request for a NZ mirror to be added. I've just updated that to reflect the new location of the mirror. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-apt/+bug/139768 Thanks for the link to the list of mirrors. I was unaware of the mechanism of registering an official mirror and today I will contact Telstra Bigpond and see if I am able to talk to the group responsible for the mirror to see if they would like to be registered as an Australian mirror. -- Onno Benschop Connected via Bigpond NextG at S31°54'06 - E115°50'39 (Yokine, WA) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - o...@itmaze.com.au -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults
Considering some noise happening in the blog space over a Linux magazine article about security problems with Ubuntu server I think we should re-visit this topic. The article is at: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7297/2/ The key criticisms of Ubuntu server raised by Linux magazine are: 1. Default permissions of users home dirs open by default 2. Install allows for blank mysql root password 3. Allowing system accounts unnecessary shell session authority 4. Nonsensical deamons listening on the network despite other configurations servicing those needs In our previous discussion on this topic here, I introduced some personal concerns I have with Ubuntu desktop security with: 1. No firewall enabled by default 2. That AppArmor is providing a false sense of safety for users in controlling the damage zero day exploits could potentially do. AppArmor only protects one daemon, CUPS. By default it does very little. The reality is that other desktop distros such as Fedora have a far stronger set of security features than our beloved Ubuntu, I think we need to make progress on these issues. I think John previously made an excellent suggestion about using something like Plash with hooks into GTK. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:03:26AM +1000, Null Ack wrote: Considering some noise happening in the blog space over a Linux magazine article about security problems with Ubuntu server I think we should re-visit this topic. The article is at: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7297/2/ The key criticisms of Ubuntu server raised by Linux magazine are: This article and its content is already being discussed on the ubuntu-server mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2009-April/002777.html -- Mathias Gug Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults
Thanks Mathias. I note that discussion is limited to the Server build, whereas this discussion has both desktop and server build topics. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu localization issues aren't fixed for ages
Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Year passed already - with no results. What's the matter with Ubuntu? Sorry about this, I didn't see the original mail. I will follow up on the bug reports you mentioned. Cheers Arne -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:03:26 +1000 Null Ack null...@gmail.com wrote: Considering some noise happening in the blog space over a Linux magazine article about security problems with Ubuntu server I think we should re-visit this topic. The article is at: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7297/2/ The key criticisms of Ubuntu server raised by Linux magazine are: 1. Default permissions of users home dirs open by default 2. Install allows for blank mysql root password 3. Allowing system accounts unnecessary shell session authority 4. Nonsensical deamons listening on the network despite other configurations servicing those needs In our previous discussion on this topic here, I introduced some personal concerns I have with Ubuntu desktop security with: 1. No firewall enabled by default 2. That AppArmor is providing a false sense of safety for users in controlling the damage zero day exploits could potentially do. AppArmor only protects one daemon, CUPS. By default it does very little. The reality is that other desktop distros such as Fedora have a far stronger set of security features than our beloved Ubuntu, I guess I was hallucinating working on the apparmor profile for clamav-daemon and freshclam (also run as a daemon) today. I have yet to work on a customer server that was Red Hat/Fedora based where SE Linux was not disabled, so whatever theoretical advantages it might have, in practice without a well trained guru to manage it, it does no good at all. Most of the article is not terribly accurate (see the today's archives of the ubuntu-server mail list for details). Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults
I guess I was hallucinating working on the apparmor profile for clamav-daemon and freshclam (also run as a daemon) today. Thats great, though Scott please don't make the mistake of taking a strawman approach. What I said was about AppArmor defaults. I dont see my current dev build of the desktop having any profiles loaded by default other than CUPS. If the considered opinion is to continue with AppArmor then clearly getting more profiles into it is the way to go. However, if you look back into this discussion thread I think John made a very sound set of points about the limitations of AppArmor / SELInux etcetc type approaches for a desktop system and weaknesses of X security. He makes what seems to be a very sound suggestion about Plash and hooking into GTK, thus overcoming the problem of needing to in advance make determinations about what a desktop user might do and the X security problems. Regards Nullack -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
