Fwd: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-03 Thread Ali/amjjawad 
Ah, I forgot to include the link:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/109365529567157032325/+KiboComputer/posts/ZcvhoFxdzA1

About 'Brain Provoking'


*The aim or purpose behind the email I sent (the one you replied), is kind
of preparation and brain provoking [1] so everyone starts to get ready for
the next step which was:*
*https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003373.html
<https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003373.html>*


Thanks :)

-- Forwarded message --
From: Ali/amjjawad 
Date: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
To: Tim 
Cc: ubuntu-gnome 


Hi Tim and everyone else,

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Tim  wrote:

> This all seems a little lacking of purpose (or direction), Im guessing
> your coming at it from a planning perspective, but that is not even
> mentioned in the email!
>

I am really sorry, I didn't mention the obvious but guess that wasn't very
obvious and I should have mentioned it already to be extra clear. Sorry
again.

The aim or purpose behind the email I sent (the one you replied), is kind
of preparation and brain provoking [1] so everyone starts to get ready for
the next step which was:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003373.html

But again, guess that wasn't very clear.


>
> I am going to suggest that each  team leader sends a quick status report
> to this list to kick off the discussions. Including some or all of the
> following (or anything else they feel relevant)
>   - Whats been done so far this cycle?
>   - What are the plans for the rest of the cycle?
>   - Where is help needed
>   - Are there possible items, that might need to be deferred to 16.04
>
>
Yesterday, your mind was very much connected to mine :D
So, thanks for saving my time and suggesting this ;)

I am not yet done. I will send 1-3 more emails as per of my vision and
planning of this cycle. I sent one already:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003373.html

Will start working on the rest ;)

Thank you, great suggestion and I see Alfredo, despite he was so tired, he
sent his so thanks for that :)

What about you, Tim? :P
You're no exception hehe


> On 03/08/15 12:04, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy
> with the current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area
> > as a community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:
> >
> >   * Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
> >   * Acting team leaders
> >   * The active contributors of the sub-teams
> >   * And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)
> >
> > Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an
> email and I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.
> >
> > Times where I can _*not*_ be online:
> >
> >   * 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT -
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
> >   * 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT -
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
> >   * 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT -
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
> >
> > Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time
> nor date. Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015.
> > /*Sorry, I will not do anything during the _weekends_ any more unless it
> is a super critical and urgent matter.*/
> >
> > It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone
> :) I am no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list
> > discussion just to find a good time for everyone, that will never happen.
> >
> > Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason,
> I'd ask them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action
> > again. If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very
> good and valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now,
> > please! if you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already away
> from Ubuntu GNOME without letting us/me know:
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation
> >
> > Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I do
> understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love
> > to help!
> >
> > Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I
> managed to heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.
> >
> > It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that
> hopefully will be a milestone to be proud of ;) Let's see!

Re: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-03 Thread Ali/amjjawad 
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Keith I Myers 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>

Hi Keith,
Thanks for your reply :)



> I am very sorry for not being around as much as I used to be over the past
> few weeks. I have been doing a lot of traveling and came home to family
> being in town that I had to entertain while also holding down a full time
> job. They are leaving today to drive back to their house so my schedule
> should be freeing up.
>

Real life comes first. The challenge is how to contribute voluntary to
something you love and have commitment to while taking care of yourself and
do the real-life tasks. That's the real challenge here.


> I am not normally too active on IRC but will pop in tomorrow.
>

I am not an IRC type of person either ;)



> I will ping Ali with a time as soon as I know when I will be free.
>

Thanks and please, read my reply to Alfredo:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003388.html


>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Alfredo Hernández <
> aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I also prefer to send a quick report. I've been surprisingly free these
>> past days, but I'm working full-time this week helping my father to build
>> his new house, so I won't be available at a reasonable time in Australia
>> (I'm UTC - 4 or so right now, and I don't want you to stay awake late,
>> Ali).
>>
>> Right now I'm leaving to buy some construction materials and I won't be
>> home till evening probably. I'll write the report when I get home, unless I
>> return home to hear something different from this list.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alfredo
>> On 2 Aug 2015 11:56 pm, "Erick Brunzell"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim and everyone,
>>>
>>> On 08/02/2015 09:21 PM, Tim wrote:
>>>
 This all seems a little lacking of purpose (or direction), Im guessing
 your coming at it from a planning perspective, but that is not even
 mentioned in the email!

 I am going to suggest that each  team leader sends a quick status
 report to this list to kick off the discussions. Including some or all of
 the
 following (or anything else they feel relevant)
- Whats been done so far this cycle?
- What are the plans for the rest of the cycle?
- Where is help needed
- Are there possible items, that might need to be deferred to 16.04

>>>
>>> Also much nicer for me since I can't use IRC chat. I don't need (or
>>> intend) to be involved in each and every discussion but as a fairly
>>> dedicated tester I do like being kept in the loop.
>>>
>>> Lance
>>>
>>>
 On 03/08/15 12:04, Ali/amjjawad wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy
> with the current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area
> as a community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:
>
>* Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
>* Acting team leaders
>* The active contributors of the sub-teams
>* And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)
>
> Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an
> email and I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.
>
> Times where I can _*not*_ be online:
>
>* 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT -
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>* 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT -
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>* 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT -
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>
> Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time
> nor date. Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015.
> /*Sorry, I will not do anything during the _weekends_ any more unless
> it is a super critical and urgent matter.*/
>
> It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone
> :) I am no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list
> discussion just to find a good time for everyone, that will never
> happen.
>
> Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason,
> I'd ask them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action
> again. If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very
> good and valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now,
> please! if you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already
> away from Ubuntu GNOME without letting us/me know:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation
>
> Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I
> do understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love
> to help!
>
> Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I
> managed to heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.
>
> It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that
>>>

Re: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-03 Thread Ali/amjjawad 
Hi Alfredo,

Thanks for your reply :)

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Alfredo Hernández <
aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I also prefer to send a quick report.
>
Seems the best way so far.

> I've been surprisingly free these past days, but I'm working full-time
> this week helping my father to build his new house, so I won't be available
> at a reasonable time in Australia (I'm UTC - 4 or so right now, and I don't
> want you to stay awake late, Ali).
>
That's 11 hours between us. Don't worry, I am no longer staying awake for
anything no matter what :D


> Right now I'm leaving to buy some construction materials and I won't be
> home till evening probably. I'll write the report when I get home, unless I
> return home to hear something different from this list.
>

I got your email/report, thank you for that :)
I will share my notes/opinion later ;)

What I am looking for is more than just a report. As per:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003373.html

Your report will fall under "Internal Feedback" category.
Based on that, we shall come up with a plan for 15.10 cycle.

So, once we have the report/feedback which you sent, we need to set the
plan. I will share my ideas about how to do that, hopefully today (my time).


> Cheers,
> Alfredo
>

Thank you!



> On 2 Aug 2015 11:56 pm, "Erick Brunzell"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim and everyone,
>>
>> On 08/02/2015 09:21 PM, Tim wrote:
>>
>>> This all seems a little lacking of purpose (or direction), Im guessing
>>> your coming at it from a planning perspective, but that is not even
>>> mentioned in the email!
>>>
>>> I am going to suggest that each  team leader sends a quick status report
>>> to this list to kick off the discussions. Including some or all of the
>>> following (or anything else they feel relevant)
>>>- Whats been done so far this cycle?
>>>- What are the plans for the rest of the cycle?
>>>- Where is help needed
>>>- Are there possible items, that might need to be deferred to 16.04
>>>
>>
>> Also much nicer for me since I can't use IRC chat. I don't need (or
>> intend) to be involved in each and every discussion but as a fairly
>> dedicated tester I do like being kept in the loop.
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>>> On 03/08/15 12:04, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>>
 Dear all,

 This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy
 with the current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area
 as a community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:

* Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
* Acting team leaders
* The active contributors of the sub-teams
* And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)

 Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an
 email and I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.

 Times where I can _*not*_ be online:

* 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT -
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
* 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT -
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
* 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT -
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

 Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time
 nor date. Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015.
 /*Sorry, I will not do anything during the _weekends_ any more unless
 it is a super critical and urgent matter.*/

 It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone
 :) I am no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list
 discussion just to find a good time for everyone, that will never
 happen.

 Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason,
 I'd ask them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action
 again. If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very
 good and valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now,
 please! if you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already away
 from Ubuntu GNOME without letting us/me know:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation

 Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I
 do understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love
 to help!

 Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I
 managed to heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.

 It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that
 hopefully will be a milestone to be proud of ;) Let's see!

 Thank you!

 --
 Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."

 Best Regards,
 Ali/amjjawad 

 *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME <
 http://ubuntugnome.org/>



>>>
>>
>> --
>> Ubuntu

Re: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-03 Thread Ali/amjjawad 
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Erick Brunzell  wrote:

> Hi Tim and everyone,
>

Hi Lance,


>
> On 08/02/2015 09:21 PM, Tim wrote:
>
>> This all seems a little lacking of purpose (or direction), Im guessing
>> your coming at it from a planning perspective, but that is not even
>> mentioned in the email!
>>
>> I am going to suggest that each  team leader sends a quick status report
>> to this list to kick off the discussions. Including some or all of the
>> following (or anything else they feel relevant)
>>- Whats been done so far this cycle?
>>- What are the plans for the rest of the cycle?
>>- Where is help needed
>>- Are there possible items, that might need to be deferred to 16.04
>>
>
> Also much nicer for me since I can't use IRC chat. I don't need (or
> intend) to be involved in each and every discussion but as a fairly
> dedicated tester I do like being kept in the loop.
>

To me, you're one of our core members (soon, I will send a very detailed
email about this) and for sure, you're in the loop ;)

Whether you use IRC (I know you don't) or not, as long as you're following
up with this list, it is all good ;)


>
> Lance
>
>
Thank you!


>
>
>> On 03/08/15 12:04, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy
>>> with the current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area
>>> as a community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:
>>>
>>>* Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
>>>* Acting team leaders
>>>* The active contributors of the sub-teams
>>>* And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)
>>>
>>> Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an
>>> email and I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.
>>>
>>> Times where I can _*not*_ be online:
>>>
>>>* 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT -
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>>>* 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT -
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>>>* 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT -
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>>>
>>> Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time
>>> nor date. Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015.
>>> /*Sorry, I will not do anything during the _weekends_ any more unless it
>>> is a super critical and urgent matter.*/
>>>
>>> It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone
>>> :) I am no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list
>>> discussion just to find a good time for everyone, that will never happen.
>>>
>>> Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason,
>>> I'd ask them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action
>>> again. If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very
>>> good and valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now,
>>> please! if you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already away
>>> from Ubuntu GNOME without letting us/me know:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation
>>>
>>> Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I do
>>> understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love
>>> to help!
>>>
>>> Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I
>>> managed to heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.
>>>
>>> It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that
>>> hopefully will be a milestone to be proud of ;) Let's see!
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Ali/amjjawad 
>>>
>>> *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME <
>>> http://ubuntugnome.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-03 Thread Ali/amjjawad 
Hi Tim and everyone else,

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Tim  wrote:

> This all seems a little lacking of purpose (or direction), Im guessing
> your coming at it from a planning perspective, but that is not even
> mentioned in the email!
>

I am really sorry, I didn't mention the obvious but guess that wasn't very
obvious and I should have mentioned it already to be extra clear. Sorry
again.

The aim or purpose behind the email I sent (the one you replied), is kind
of preparation and brain provoking [1] so everyone starts to get ready for
the next step which was:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003373.html

But again, guess that wasn't very clear.


>
> I am going to suggest that each  team leader sends a quick status report
> to this list to kick off the discussions. Including some or all of the
> following (or anything else they feel relevant)
>   - Whats been done so far this cycle?
>   - What are the plans for the rest of the cycle?
>   - Where is help needed
>   - Are there possible items, that might need to be deferred to 16.04
>
>
Yesterday, your mind was very much connected to mine :D
So, thanks for saving my time and suggesting this ;)

I am not yet done. I will send 1-3 more emails as per of my vision and
planning of this cycle. I sent one already:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003373.html

Will start working on the rest ;)

Thank you, great suggestion and I see Alfredo, despite he was so tired, he
sent his so thanks for that :)

What about you, Tim? :P
You're no exception hehe


> On 03/08/15 12:04, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy
> with the current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area
> > as a community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:
> >
> >   * Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
> >   * Acting team leaders
> >   * The active contributors of the sub-teams
> >   * And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)
> >
> > Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an
> email and I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.
> >
> > Times where I can _*not*_ be online:
> >
> >   * 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT -
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
> >   * 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT -
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
> >   * 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT -
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
> >
> > Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time
> nor date. Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015.
> > /*Sorry, I will not do anything during the _weekends_ any more unless it
> is a super critical and urgent matter.*/
> >
> > It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone
> :) I am no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list
> > discussion just to find a good time for everyone, that will never happen.
> >
> > Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason,
> I'd ask them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action
> > again. If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very
> good and valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now,
> > please! if you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already away
> from Ubuntu GNOME without letting us/me know:
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation
> >
> > Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I do
> understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love
> > to help!
> >
> > Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I
> managed to heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.
> >
> > It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that
> hopefully will be a milestone to be proud of ;) Let's see!
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > --
> > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Ali/amjjawad 
> >
> > *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME <
> http://ubuntugnome.org/>
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-03 Thread Keith I Myers 
Hello All,
I am very sorry for not being around as much as I used to be over the past
few weeks. I have been doing a lot of traveling and came home to family
being in town that I had to entertain while also holding down a full time
job. They are leaving today to drive back to their house so my schedule
should be freeing up. I am not normally too active on IRC but will pop in
tomorrow. I will ping Ali with a time as soon as I know when I will be
free.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Alfredo Hernández <
aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I also prefer to send a quick report. I've been surprisingly free these
> past days, but I'm working full-time this week helping my father to build
> his new house, so I won't be available at a reasonable time in Australia
> (I'm UTC - 4 or so right now, and I don't want you to stay awake late,
> Ali).
>
> Right now I'm leaving to buy some construction materials and I won't be
> home till evening probably. I'll write the report when I get home, unless I
> return home to hear something different from this list.
>
> Cheers,
> Alfredo
> On 2 Aug 2015 11:56 pm, "Erick Brunzell"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim and everyone,
>>
>> On 08/02/2015 09:21 PM, Tim wrote:
>>
>>> This all seems a little lacking of purpose (or direction), Im guessing
>>> your coming at it from a planning perspective, but that is not even
>>> mentioned in the email!
>>>
>>> I am going to suggest that each  team leader sends a quick status report
>>> to this list to kick off the discussions. Including some or all of the
>>> following (or anything else they feel relevant)
>>>- Whats been done so far this cycle?
>>>- What are the plans for the rest of the cycle?
>>>- Where is help needed
>>>- Are there possible items, that might need to be deferred to 16.04
>>>
>>
>> Also much nicer for me since I can't use IRC chat. I don't need (or
>> intend) to be involved in each and every discussion but as a fairly
>> dedicated tester I do like being kept in the loop.
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>>> On 03/08/15 12:04, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>>
 Dear all,

 This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy
 with the current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area
 as a community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:

* Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
* Acting team leaders
* The active contributors of the sub-teams
* And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)

 Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an
 email and I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.

 Times where I can _*not*_ be online:

* 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT -
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
* 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT -
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
* 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT -
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

 Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time
 nor date. Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015.
 /*Sorry, I will not do anything during the _weekends_ any more unless
 it is a super critical and urgent matter.*/

 It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone
 :) I am no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list
 discussion just to find a good time for everyone, that will never
 happen.

 Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason,
 I'd ask them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action
 again. If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very
 good and valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now,
 please! if you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already away
 from Ubuntu GNOME without letting us/me know:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation

 Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I
 do understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love
 to help!

 Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I
 managed to heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.

 It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that
 hopefully will be a milestone to be proud of ;) Let's see!

 Thank you!

 --
 Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."

 Best Regards,
 Ali/amjjawad 

 *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME <
 http://ubuntugnome.org/>



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Re: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-03 Thread Alfredo Hernández 
I also prefer to send a quick report. I've been surprisingly free these
past days, but I'm working full-time this week helping my father to build
his new house, so I won't be available at a reasonable time in Australia
(I'm UTC - 4 or so right now, and I don't want you to stay awake late,
Ali).

Right now I'm leaving to buy some construction materials and I won't be
home till evening probably. I'll write the report when I get home, unless I
return home to hear something different from this list.

Cheers,
Alfredo
On 2 Aug 2015 11:56 pm, "Erick Brunzell"  wrote:

> Hi Tim and everyone,
>
> On 08/02/2015 09:21 PM, Tim wrote:
>
>> This all seems a little lacking of purpose (or direction), Im guessing
>> your coming at it from a planning perspective, but that is not even
>> mentioned in the email!
>>
>> I am going to suggest that each  team leader sends a quick status report
>> to this list to kick off the discussions. Including some or all of the
>> following (or anything else they feel relevant)
>>- Whats been done so far this cycle?
>>- What are the plans for the rest of the cycle?
>>- Where is help needed
>>- Are there possible items, that might need to be deferred to 16.04
>>
>
> Also much nicer for me since I can't use IRC chat. I don't need (or
> intend) to be involved in each and every discussion but as a fairly
> dedicated tester I do like being kept in the loop.
>
> Lance
>
>
>> On 03/08/15 12:04, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy
>>> with the current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area
>>> as a community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:
>>>
>>>* Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
>>>* Acting team leaders
>>>* The active contributors of the sub-teams
>>>* And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)
>>>
>>> Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an
>>> email and I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.
>>>
>>> Times where I can _*not*_ be online:
>>>
>>>* 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT -
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>>>* 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT -
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>>>* 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT -
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>>>
>>> Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time
>>> nor date. Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015.
>>> /*Sorry, I will not do anything during the _weekends_ any more unless it
>>> is a super critical and urgent matter.*/
>>>
>>> It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone
>>> :) I am no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list
>>> discussion just to find a good time for everyone, that will never happen.
>>>
>>> Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason,
>>> I'd ask them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action
>>> again. If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very
>>> good and valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now,
>>> please! if you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already away
>>> from Ubuntu GNOME without letting us/me know:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation
>>>
>>> Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I do
>>> understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love
>>> to help!
>>>
>>> Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I
>>> managed to heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.
>>>
>>> It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that
>>> hopefully will be a milestone to be proud of ;) Let's see!
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Ali/amjjawad 
>>>
>>> *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME <
>>> http://ubuntugnome.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-02 Thread Erick Brunzell 

Hi Tim and everyone,

On 08/02/2015 09:21 PM, Tim wrote:

This all seems a little lacking of purpose (or direction), Im guessing your 
coming at it from a planning perspective, but that is not even
mentioned in the email!

I am going to suggest that each  team leader sends a quick status report to 
this list to kick off the discussions. Including some or all of the
following (or anything else they feel relevant)
   - Whats been done so far this cycle?
   - What are the plans for the rest of the cycle?
   - Where is help needed
   - Are there possible items, that might need to be deferred to 16.04


Also much nicer for me since I can't use IRC chat. I don't need (or 
intend) to be involved in each and every discussion but as a fairly 
dedicated tester I do like being kept in the loop.


Lance



On 03/08/15 12:04, Ali/amjjawad wrote:

Dear all,

This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy with the 
current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area
as a community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:

   * Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
   * Acting team leaders
   * The active contributors of the sub-teams
   * And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)

Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an email and 
I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.

Times where I can _*not*_ be online:

   * 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT - 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
   * 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT - 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
   * 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT - 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time nor date. 
Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015.
/*Sorry, I will not do anything during the _weekends_ any more unless it is a 
super critical and urgent matter.*/

It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone :) I am 
no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list
discussion just to find a good time for everyone, that will never happen.

Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason, I'd ask 
them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action
again. If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very good and 
valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now,
please! if you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already away from 
Ubuntu GNOME without letting us/me know:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation

Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I do 
understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love
to help!

Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I managed to 
heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.

It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that hopefully 
will be a milestone to be proud of ;) Let's see!

Thank you!

--
Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."

Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad 

*http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME 








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Re: Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-02 Thread Tim 
This all seems a little lacking of purpose (or direction), Im guessing your 
coming at it from a planning perspective, but that is not even
mentioned in the email!

I am going to suggest that each  team leader sends a quick status report to 
this list to kick off the discussions. Including some or all of the
following (or anything else they feel relevant)
  - Whats been done so far this cycle?
  - What are the plans for the rest of the cycle?
  - Where is help needed
  - Are there possible items, that might need to be deferred to 16.04

On 03/08/15 12:04, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy with the 
> current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area
> as a community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:
>
>   * Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
>   * Acting team leaders
>   * The active contributors of the sub-teams
>   * And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)
>
> Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an email and 
> I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.
>
> Times where I can _*not*_ be online:
>
>   * 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT - 
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>   * 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT - 
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>   * 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT - 
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>
> Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time nor 
> date. Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015.
> /*Sorry, I will not do anything during the _weekends_ any more unless it is a 
> super critical and urgent matter.*/
>
> It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone :) I 
> am no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list
> discussion just to find a good time for everyone, that will never happen.
>
> Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason, I'd 
> ask them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action
> again. If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very good and 
> valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now,
> please! if you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already away from 
> Ubuntu GNOME without letting us/me know:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation
>
> Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I do 
> understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love
> to help!
>
> Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I managed to 
> heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.
>
> It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that hopefully 
> will be a milestone to be proud of ;) Let's see!
>
> Thank you!
>
> -- 
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>
> Best Regards,
> Ali/amjjawad 
>
> *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME 
> 
>
>


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Dedicated to the drivers/leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams

2015-08-02 Thread Ali/amjjawad 
Dear all,

This is an invite to an open week of discussion. I am not very happy with
the current direction/status of the community and sub-teams (my area as a
community lead). Therefore, I'd ask:


   - Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams
   - Acting team leaders
   - The active contributors of the sub-teams
   - And, whoever is interested to join (we have no secrets to hide)

Let's be available on IRC whenever you can. Simply, ping me with an email
and I'll login to IRC if I am not logged in already.

Times where I can *not* be online:

   - 12:00 AM - 6:00 AM  +10 GMT -
   http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
   - 8:00 AM - 9:30 AM  +10 GMT -
   http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
   - 2:00 PM - 4:00 PM  +10 GMT -
   http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

Again, this is an open week of discussion. It means, no specific time nor
date. Started already from today, until Friday 7th of August, 2015. *Sorry,
I will not do anything during the weekends any more unless it is a super
critical and urgent matter.*

It is the best way to make sure I will catch up with each and everyone :) I
am no longer interested to waste time over endless mailing list discussion
just to find a good time for everyone, that will never happen.

Those who will fail to show up this week, without a very valid reason, I'd
ask them to step down until they're 100% able to be back to action again.
If you see this now and you know you can't make it for a very good and
valid reason, please do reply me only and let me know from now, please! if
you will not reply nor show up, it means you're already away from Ubuntu
GNOME without letting us/me know:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre/Vacation

Which means, you need to step back, finish whatever is more urgent (I do
understand, no worries) and give the chance to others who would love to
help!

Yes, I managed to stay away from ALL my project for 48 hours and I managed
to heal myself and recharge my empty drained dying batteries.

It is time now to take this community to an entire new level that hopefully
will be a milestone to be proud of ;) Let's see!

Thank you!
-- 
Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."

Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad 

*http://kibo.computer * - http://torios.net - Ubuntu
GNOME 
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