Re: [ubuntu-in] New Member

2009-01-25 Thread Roshan
--- On Sun, 25/1/09, Easwar Hariharan wrote:

 #ubuntu is a very high traffic channel,it would be easier
 to use
 ##beginners-help for answers,if no answers can be found
 there,you might want
 to leap into the fast and furious #ubuntu.

I completely agree!


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Re: [ubuntu-in] New Member

2009-01-25 Thread shan chak
There is also ubuntu forum(http://www.ubuntuforums.org) and lots and lots of 
linux( and ubuntu)  forums and blogs.
REMEMBER GOLDEN RULE: No matter you want there is always GOOGLE.
Its specially true for beginners .




From: Roshan d_rosh2...@yahoo.co.in
To: Ubuntu India Local Community ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Sunday, 25 January, 2009 5:55:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] New Member

--- On Sun, 25/1/09, Easwar Hariharan wrote:

 #ubuntu is a very high traffic channel,it would be easier
 to use
 ##beginners-help for answers,if no answers can be found
 there,you might want
 to leap into the fast and furious #ubuntu.

I completely agree!


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[ubuntu-in] Ubuntu India Distribution

2009-01-25 Thread Anand Chitipothu
I'm a user of Ubuntu and I try to promote it whereever I go. Recently
I have been working with a school to covert their systems to Ubuntu
and here are some problems that I faced.

* Standard Ubuntu Distribution doesn't play mp3 files
* Doesn't come with all Indian fonts (there are some by default but
more needs to be installed)
* Adding packages is painful when there is no/slow internet connection.

Only way to overcome this problem seems to have a distribution with
most of the required software available out-of-the-box.

I looked around to see if there is anybody is doing the same. There
were some initiatives like this[1], but looks like there are not under
active development.
(Please let me know if there is any such work in progress)

[1]: https://launchpad.net/~ind-ubuntu

So, I started building a new distribution with the following.

* language support for all Indian languages (language-support-te,
language-support-kn, ...)
* all indian fonts (ttf-telugu-fonts, ttf-kannada-fonts etc.)
* A/V codecs bad and ugly
* flash plugin (from adobe)
* indic-input-extension to firefox

To save space on the CD, I removed foreign language support and some
other less important packages.

I'm also thinking of creating a companion CD with some packages to
help people with no/slow internet connection to add additional
packages easily.

If you have are interested to participate or have any
suggestions/comments, please let me know.

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[ubuntu-in] ubuntu-in.org down

2009-01-25 Thread Anand Chitipothu
ubuntu-in.org website is down.  Is it maintained by somebody in this list?
I saw there is one more website ubuntu-in.info and that is also down.

Which one of these is the official website of this group?

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Re: [ubuntu-in] ubuntu-in.org down

2009-01-25 Thread Parthan SR
Anand Chitipothu wrote:
 ubuntu-in.org website is down.  Is it maintained by somebody in this list?
 I saw there is one more website ubuntu-in.info and that is also down.

 Which one of these is the official website of this group?

   
ubuntu-in.org and ubuntu-in.info point to the same website, the former 
is an old url which we're still retaining so older links still work. 
Thanks for the information, the site is now accessible.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu India Distribution

2009-01-25 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Anand Chitipothu
anandol...@gmail.com wrote:
| I can do that, but not the target audience.
| I want people who are not used to internet start using ubuntu.
\--

Sure. I had suggested that for a system admin who would be there in
the premises.

---
| It is not practical solution in many cases. It works only if there is
| a system-admin to take care of the systems.
\--

I was under the assumption that there was one.

---
| What if an individual user wants to install ubuntu on his machine
| without internet connection?
\--

Take it from the local mirror that is setup. The local mirror can be
updated in the night with cron job -- automatically.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu India Distribution

2009-01-25 Thread Anand Chitipothu
 ---
 | What if an individual user wants to install ubuntu on his machine
 | without internet connection?
 \--

 Take it from the local mirror that is setup. The local mirror can be
 updated in the night with cron job -- automatically.

Windows popular in local community because they can get windows CD
anywhere and get all software they want by asking a vendor.
Even if you go to a mandal head quarters and you will be able to get a
copy of windows and any software that is commonly required.

For ubuntu to be popular at that scale (atleast reach people at that
level), it should be possible to use system without internet
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu India Distribution

2009-01-25 Thread Anand Chitipothu
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Parthan SR
parth.technofr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
 So, I started building a new distribution with the following.
 * A/V codecs bad and ugly
 * flash plugin (from adobe)

 Am afraid whether it is legal or illegal to package this into a CD.
 IIRC, they are from non-free portion of the repository
 which is the reason why they're not included in the Ubuntu CD.
 Neither do any other distribution distributes them in their CDs.

I have read flash plugin license and it allows you to distribute the
binaries on a CD.
However, it prohibits you from keeping it available online.

I haven't found what kind of restrictions are there in distributing
bad and ugly gstreamer plugins.
Ubuntu website just gives the following warning.
In some countries, the use of certain codecs may be prohibited by
law. You should verify that you are permitted to use them before
installing them.

Do you know what kind of restrictions are there on distributing these packages?

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu India Distribution

2009-01-25 Thread Sameep
 I'm a user of Ubuntu and I try to promote it whereever I go. Recently
 I have been working with a school to covert their systems to Ubuntu
 and here are some problems that I faced.
 
 * Standard Ubuntu Distribution doesn't play mp3 files
 * Doesn't come with all Indian fonts (there are some by default but
 more needs to be installed)
 * Adding packages is painful when there is no/slow internet connection.
 

You can try Linux Mint. It comes with all the software you want pre-installed. 
(except language support). 





 Only way to overcome this problem seems to have a distribution with
 most of the required software available out-of-the-box.
 
 I looked around to see if there is anybody is doing the same. There
 were some initiatives like this[1], but looks like there are not under
 active development.
 (Please let me know if there is any such work in progress)
 
 [1]: https://launchpad.net/~ind-ubuntu
 
 So, I started building a new distribution with the following.
 
 * language support for all Indian languages (language-support-te,
 language-support-kn, ...)
 * all indian fonts (ttf-telugu-fonts, ttf-kannada-fonts etc.)
 * A/V codecs bad and ugly
 * flash plugin (from adobe)
 * indic-input-extension to firefox
 
 To save space on the CD, I removed foreign language support and some
 other less important packages.
 
 I'm also thinking of creating a companion CD with some packages to
 help people with no/slow internet connection to add additional
 packages easily.
 
 If you have are interested to participate or have any
 suggestions/comments, please let me know.
 
 Anand
 




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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu India Distribution

2009-01-25 Thread Sameep
  I'm a user of Ubuntu and I try to promote it whereever I go. Recently
  I have been working with a school to covert their systems to Ubuntu
  and here are some problems that I faced.
  
  * Standard Ubuntu Distribution doesn't play mp3 files
  * Doesn't come with all Indian fonts (there are some by default but
  more needs to be installed)
  * Adding packages is painful when there is no/slow internet connection.
  
 


 You can try Linux Mint. It comes with all the software you want pre-installed. 
 (except language support). 

http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/linuxmint.com/stable/6/LinuxMint-6.iso


  Only way to overcome this problem seems to have a distribution with
  most of the required software available out-of-the-box.
  
  I looked around to see if there is anybody is doing the same. There
  were some initiatives like this[1], but looks like there are not under
  active development.
  (Please let me know if there is any such work in progress)


I had already done it a while ago. A person had on the ILUG Bom group had 
requested for a Customized CD with Educational Packages. 


  So, I started building a new distribution with the following.
  
  * language support for all Indian languages (language-support-te,
  language-support-kn, ...)
  * all indian fonts (ttf-telugu-fonts, ttf-kannada-fonts etc.)
  * A/V codecs bad and ugly
  * flash plugin (from adobe)
  * indic-input-extension to firefox
  
  To save space on the CD, I removed foreign language support and some
  other less important packages.
  
  I'm also thinking of creating a companion CD with some packages to
  help people with no/slow internet connection to add additional
  packages easily.


You can use apton cd for that. 


  If you have are interested to participate or have any
  suggestions/comments, please let me know.
  
  Anand
  


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Re: [ubuntu-in] New Member

2009-01-25 Thread Easwar Hariharan


 01) just please ask for volunteers to drop by at your college, and to
 conduct an install-festival, where they share their knowledge and
 assist hands-on with live installations and migrations. you could then
 migrate several dozen computers at one go.
 acharya narendra dev college, also from the delhiunversity, recently
 held such an ubuntu install-festival in the first week of january.

 regards
 niyam

Could you provide a few details/links/a contact person please.I'm interested
in holding such a fest in my college too.


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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Avez-vous remarqué...

2009-01-25 Thread maxime.maguire
Bonjour, une solution pour utiliser plusieurs systèmes d'exploitation sur
son poste de travail est d'utiliser le logiciel libre
Virtualboxhttp://www.virtualbox.org/de Sun. Je le fais depuis
plusieurs mois avec XP et FREE BSD, ça fonctionne
très bien. Je préfère de loin la virtualisation à la cohabitation. C'est mon
point de vue personnel.

2009/1/24 Donald Pinet donja...@yahoo.ca

 Bonsoir les Ubuntistes,
 Avant, je veux remercier cet aimable ubuntiste qui m'a donné les liens pour
 le Python et sa socumentation. Vraiment très gentil. Même en anglais, je
 cromprends l'écriture mais je le parle trop mal pour qu'une personne de
 langue anglaise puisse m'couter jusqu'à la fin... En anglais, je suis celui
 qui peut vider une salle de conférence si je parlais!

 Avez-vous remarqué le problème lors du dernier envoi. Hé oui. J'avais
 envoyé tout le courriel Ubuntu-Quebec par...erreur! Normal, j'avais utilisé
 un autre ordi et le clavier portable n'est pas aussi aisé que celui de
 bureau... Bon, milles excuses!

 Cependant, j'ai étudié comme un bon élève l'Orca. J'en ai profité pour le
 planter ben d'aplomb. Mais non, il a tenu le cap. Tout de même surprenant
 pour un logiciel...gratos! On s'en reparle.

 Là, je vais vous faire sursauter un peu! Figurez-vous que j'ai été porté
 mon ordinateur de bureau chez un ami techno-programmeur pour un dual boot
 (dobule amorçage). Bon. Disons qu'il a installe deux environnements:
 GNU-Linux Ubuntu et Window. Tout a été fait à merveille. Tout? Euh, disons
 que je ne voulais plus le fameux-terrifiant Vista. Je voulais le XP
 professionnel. Et, surprise! Il était impossible d'installer le XP avec mon
 ordinateur de table de HP. Car, ses drivers fournis n'utilisaient que
 le...Vista.. Malheur de malheur. Je suis encore avec le Vista.

 Prix de consolation: j'ai le Ubuntu en double amorçage (dual boot). Tant
 mieux.

 Maintenant, je me retrouve avec un portable entièrement Linux et un de
 table en duo Linux-Window.

 Pourquoi? Dans mon cas, il est plus facile de travailler avec deux
 ordianteurs. L'un pour terminer mon roman et le second pour faire de la
 programmation.

 Justement, parlant de programmation Python, n'oubliez jamais que je vais
 faire, dans un premier temps, du pythonnage et, dans un deuxième temps, du
 pythonnier.

 Pour la suggestion d'animer ou d'aller dans votre réunion, je n'y vois
 (ben oui, même les aveugles utilsient le verbe voir) aucun problème!
 Normal que je ne vois pas les problèmes dans mon cas. Vous saisissez%

 Bonne fin de semaine à vous tous Ubuntistes,
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[ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Josh Holland
Hi all.
I am preparing to upgrade my laptop's memory as 512MB is really not
enough. I'd just like to know whether something like this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-ValueRAM-533MHz-Non-ECC-SODIMM/dp/tech-data/B0006VX0CI/ref=de_a_smtd

is suitable for my Dell Inspiron 1300 running Intrepid.

Also, what would happen once the memory is in? Could I just boot up and
have the memory recognised, or would I have to fiddle around with config
files and so on?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Alan Pope
2009/1/25 Josh Holland jshholl...@googlemail.com:
 is suitable for my Dell Inspiron 1300 running Intrepid.


I usually use the crucial memory advisor to find out what would or
would not work.

http://crucial.com/uk

 Also, what would happen once the memory is in? Could I just boot up and
 have the memory recognised, or would I have to fiddle around with config
 files and so on?


On first boot the BIOS might complain that the amount of memory has
changed but just going into the bios and back out should sort that.

Linux will find the extra memory too, no problem.

The only issue is that if you're thinking of hibernating the laptop
then you might need to increase the amount of swap space you have
configured.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Josh Holland
On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 14:13 +, Alan Pope wrote:
 I usually use the crucial memory advisor to find out what would or
 would not work.
 
 http://crucial.com/uk
snip
 

Thanks for your advice.
I probably wouldn't have thought of increasing swap.

Unfortunately, crucial seem to be having some technical difficulties at
the moment, so I'll have to wait.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Kris Douglas
2009/1/25 Alan Pope a...@popey.com:
 2009/1/25 Josh Holland jshholl...@googlemail.com:
 is suitable for my Dell Inspiron 1300 running Intrepid.


 I usually use the crucial memory advisor to find out what would or
 would not work.

 http://crucial.com/uk

 Also, what would happen once the memory is in? Could I just boot up and
 have the memory recognised, or would I have to fiddle around with config
 files and so on?


 On first boot the BIOS might complain that the amount of memory has
 changed but just going into the bios and back out should sort that.

 Linux will find the extra memory too, no problem.

 The only issue is that if you're thinking of hibernating the laptop
 then you might need to increase the amount of swap space you have
 configured.

 Cheers,
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If the memory on Amazon will work, then this is cheaper:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/Laptop/Arianet+1GB+PC2-6400+SO-DIMM+?productId=33884

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Matt Jones
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Josh Holland jshholl...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi all.
 I am preparing to upgrade my laptop's memory as 512MB is really not
 enough. I'd just like to know whether something like this


 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-ValueRAM-533MHz-Non-ECC-SODIMM/dp/tech-data/B0006VX0CI/ref=de_a_smtd

 is suitable for my Dell Inspiron 1300 running Intrepid.

 Also, what would happen once the memory is in? Could I just boot up and
 have the memory recognised, or would I have to fiddle around with config
 files and so on?

 Thanks in advance.
 --
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 Find me on #ubuntu-uk

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 Intel Pentium M 1.70 GHz, 512 MB (soon to be more!)


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 IIRC the maximum you can use is 2gb on the 1300, which is plenty for
Ubuntu, and available for less than £20. The 533Mhz listed on amazon will
work, but you might as well go for
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Kris Douglas
 IIRC the maximum you can use is 2gb on the 1300, which is plenty for Ubuntu, 
 and available for less than £20. The 533Mhz listed on amazon will work, but  
 you might as well go for

Cheap 2GB stick:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/Laptop/Arianet+2GB+PC2-5300+SO-DIMM?productId=34393

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Matt Jones
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Matt Jones m...@mattjones.me.uk wrote:



 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Josh Holland 
 jshholl...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi all.
 I am preparing to upgrade my laptop's memory as 512MB is really not
 enough. I'd just like to know whether something like this


 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-ValueRAM-533MHz-Non-ECC-SODIMM/dp/tech-data/B0006VX0CI/ref=de_a_smtd

 is suitable for my Dell Inspiron 1300 running Intrepid.

 Also, what would happen once the memory is in? Could I just boot up and
 have the memory recognised, or would I have to fiddle around with config
 files and so on?

 Thanks in advance.
 --
 Josh Holland aka madmartian
 Find me on #ubuntu-uk

 My system: Dell Inspiron 1300 with fully up-to-date Intrepid
 Intel Pentium M 1.70 GHz, 512 MB (soon to be more!)


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  IIRC the maximum you can use is 2gb on the 1300, which is plenty for
 Ubuntu, and available for less than £20. The 533Mhz listed on amazon will
 work, but you might as well go for

Oops, pressed send instead of moving to the other tab!

The 667Mhz memory will work and be marginally faster for pretty much the
same price. You can get a 2gb kit from crucial delivered for aropund £20.
here is the link  to the page on crucial. You won't find much cheaper.
http://crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=Inspiron%201300

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Matt Jones
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Kris Douglas webbox...@gmail.com wrote:

  IIRC the maximum you can use is 2gb on the 1300, which is plenty for
 Ubuntu, and available for less than £20. The 533Mhz listed on amazon will
 work, but  you might as well go for

 Cheap 2GB stick:

 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/Laptop/Arianet+2GB+PC2-5300+SO-DIMM?productId=34393

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/01/2009 15:00, Kris Douglas wrote:
 Cheap 2GB stick:
 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/Laptop/Arianet+2GB+PC2-5300+SO-DIMM?productId=34393

I'd recommend the Aria memory.  I have two sticks of it in my Acer 
Aspire 2920, was well worth the purchase, cost me about £25 ish.  Other 
than that you can't go wrong with Crucial memory.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Alan Pope
2009/1/25 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
 On 25/01/2009 15:00, Kris Douglas wrote:
 Cheap 2GB stick:
 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/Laptop/Arianet+2GB+PC2-5300+SO-DIMM?productId=34393

 I'd recommend the Aria memory.  I have two sticks of it in my Acer
 Aspire 2920, was well worth the purchase, cost me about £25 ish.  Other
 than that you can't go wrong with Crucial memory.


Just to be clear, i wasnt advocating buying from Crucial (although I
have in the past, and had no problems other than them not being the
cheapest), but just suggest using their memory advisor as it seems to
be quite a comprehensive database of computer motherboards and their
respective memory requirements.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manlug

2009-01-25 Thread Tim Dobson
Simon Wears wrote:
 Firstly - my apologies! I think I sent out a blank email to the list  
 by accident.
 
 Second - I'm living in Manchester, and was thinking of going along to  
 one of the MANlug meetings. Does anyone on this list go, or know how  
 active they are?

Hiya,

I'm based near Manchester and though I've never been to a ManLUG 
meeting, I know a load of people who do and hangout on #manlug on 
irc.oftc.net (I'm tdobson - feel free to say hi)

There is actually quite a broad spectrum of tech groups in the northwest.

In Manchester;
There is ManLUG[1] - a traditional LUG focused (as far as I know) around 
technological things one can achieve with Linux and software for Linux, 
sometimes has presentations

There is Manchester Free Software Group[2] - a group to compliment 
Manchester's other tech groups which focuses more on the ideological 
side of things but frequently has talks concentrating on things that can 
be achieved with free software (or the ideology) for anyone who is 
interested. These sometimes focus on aspects of GNU/Linux but cover a 
wide range of areas - the next talk is on Drupal for instance.
(Probably not the best people to ask how to get Adobe Flash 10 running.)

[3] Manchester BSD User Group - a friendly group of '*BSD Users' who 
meet up regularly but in my experience are prone to use Darwin (OS X) 
and talk about everything except BSD, but if you wanted to know anything 
about BSD, they'd be the bunch.

There are plenty more tech orientated groups in Manchester, focusing on 
various different things, Geekup[4], DFEY-NW[5] and Manchester Geek Girl 
Dinners[6] being just a few.

Hope this helps,

Tim

Disclaimer: I am involved in the organisation and running of Manchester 
Free Software Group.

[1] http://www.manlug.org
[2] http://manchester.fsuk.org
[3] http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk/manchester/
[4] http://geekup.org
[5] http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk
[6] http://www.manchestergirlgeekdinners.co.uk/

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[ubuntu-uk] KentLUG

2009-01-25 Thread Colin McCarthy
With all these mentions of LUG, I thought I would mention Kent LUG as
a shameless plug.

Our next meeting is next Saturday 31st January from 10am to 1pm at;

Maplesden Noakes School
Buckland Hill, Buckland Road
Maidstone
Kent ME16 0TJ

We are doing an 'Install and Troubleshooting' session for people to
start, then one member (who runs a Linux business) will do a talk on
'Linux In Business'.

It should be a good meeting and all newbies welcome.  More details on
www.kentlug.org and our mailing list.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/01/2009 17:53, Alan Pope wrote:
 2009/1/25 Rob Beardr...@esdelle.co.uk:

 On 25/01/2009 15:00, Kris Douglas wrote:
  
 Cheap 2GB stick:
 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/Laptop/Arianet+2GB+PC2-5300+SO-DIMM?productId=34393


 I'd recommend the Aria memory.  I have two sticks of it in my Acer
 Aspire 2920, was well worth the purchase, cost me about £25 ish.  Other
 than that you can't go wrong with Crucial memory.

  

 Just to be clear, i wasnt advocating buying from Crucial (although I
 have in the past, and had no problems other than them not being the
 cheapest), but just suggest using their memory advisor as it seems to
 be quite a comprehensive database of computer motherboards and their
 respective memory requirements.

 Cheers,
 Al.


I'd agree about their motherboard advisor.  I've yet to find an advisor 
that is as good as Crucials.  If I'm after something specific for a 
customer I generally pay the little bit extra and get Crucial memory, 
especially considering they usually do free 2 to 3 day delivery.  I just 
went for the Aria memory as it was cheap and for my own laptop.  I have 
used other generic Aria memory in a couple of motherboards and it seems 
to work okay although I'm not sure how well it would work in maybe a 
Dell PC or something like that which may be a little bit more fussy.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Kris Douglas
2009/1/25 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
 On 25/01/2009 17:53, Alan Pope wrote:
 2009/1/25 Rob Beardr...@esdelle.co.uk:

 On 25/01/2009 15:00, Kris Douglas wrote:

 Cheap 2GB stick:
 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/Laptop/Arianet+2GB+PC2-5300+SO-DIMM?productId=34393


 I'd recommend the Aria memory.  I have two sticks of it in my Acer
 Aspire 2920, was well worth the purchase, cost me about £25 ish.  Other
 than that you can't go wrong with Crucial memory.



 Just to be clear, i wasnt advocating buying from Crucial (although I
 have in the past, and had no problems other than them not being the
 cheapest), but just suggest using their memory advisor as it seems to
 be quite a comprehensive database of computer motherboards and their
 respective memory requirements.

 Cheers,
 Al.


 I'd agree about their motherboard advisor.  I've yet to find an advisor
 that is as good as Crucials.  If I'm after something specific for a
 customer I generally pay the little bit extra and get Crucial memory,
 especially considering they usually do free 2 to 3 day delivery.  I just
 went for the Aria memory as it was cheap and for my own laptop.  I have
 used other generic Aria memory in a couple of motherboards and it seems
 to work okay although I'm not sure how well it would work in maybe a
 Dell PC or something like that which may be a little bit more fussy.

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My XPS M1530 runs with a fast 3gb set from aria, works fine... and my
desktop runs on aria ram too :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Memory upgrade

2009-01-25 Thread Matt Jones
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Kris Douglas webbox...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/1/25 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
  On 25/01/2009 17:53, Alan Pope wrote:
  2009/1/25 Rob Beardr...@esdelle.co.uk:
 
  On 25/01/2009 15:00, Kris Douglas wrote:
 
  Cheap 2GB stick:
 
 http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/Laptop/Arianet+2GB+PC2-5300+SO-DIMM?productId=34393
 
 
  I'd recommend the Aria memory.  I have two sticks of it in my Acer
  Aspire 2920, was well worth the purchase, cost me about £25 ish.  Other
  than that you can't go wrong with Crucial memory.
 
 
 
  Just to be clear, i wasnt advocating buying from Crucial (although I
  have in the past, and had no problems other than them not being the
  cheapest), but just suggest using their memory advisor as it seems to
  be quite a comprehensive database of computer motherboards and their
  respective memory requirements.
 
  Cheers,
  Al.
 
 
  I'd agree about their motherboard advisor.  I've yet to find an advisor
  that is as good as Crucials.  If I'm after something specific for a
  customer I generally pay the little bit extra and get Crucial memory,
  especially considering they usually do free 2 to 3 day delivery.  I just
  went for the Aria memory as it was cheap and for my own laptop.  I have
  used other generic Aria memory in a couple of motherboards and it seems
  to work okay although I'm not sure how well it would work in maybe a
  Dell PC or something like that which may be a little bit more fussy.
 
  Rob
 
 
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 My XPS M1530 runs with a fast 3gb set from aria, works fine... and my
 desktop runs on aria ram too :)

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The recommended memory from crucial works cheaper when aria delivery is
taken into account for. Aria would work out cheaper if the 1300 could use a
single 2GB stick, but it needs the 2*1GB version. Crucial seem to be pretty
competitive for laptop ram at the moment, the only place I could find
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Venue for London Bugjam

2009-01-25 Thread John Levin
James Thomas wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Just a note to say I have a venue in central London, next to Liverpool 
 Street station.
 Details can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam/London
 
 :)
 
 James Thomas
 (selinuxium)
 

Excellent! I was getting frustrated at drawing a blank on this.

John


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[ubuntu-uk] London hacker space

2009-01-25 Thread John Levin
In the course of trying to get a venue for the Bugjam, and getting 
frustrated at finding it so difficult to get a suitable venue, I found 
that others felt the same way, and wanted to get a hacklb going here in 
London:

http://groups.google.com/group/london-hack-space

As ever, it'll only happen if sufficient people get involved.

PS: For more on hacklabs / hacker spaces / whatever you want to call 
them, see:
http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hacker_Spaces
(There are a few dotted around the UK folk on this list might be 
interested in checking out)

John


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has anyone had this problem with 9.04

2009-01-25 Thread mike
Hi, Ok I got 9.04 to talk, but here is the problem I am having.
   If no monitor is turned on the system will not let you login. This is the 
same with the live CD. It will not login if the monitor is off. I don't use a 
monitor, and didn't try this two weeks ago when I assumed it wanted a username.
Does anyone know what is going on with this. It will be pretty bad if we have 
to have a monitor on to use ubuntu.
Mike.

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Ubuntu Studio daily CD health check

2009-01-25 Thread Colin Watson
This is a daily health check report on the Ubuntu Studio CD images.
If you have any questions, contact Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com.

No problems found!

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Re: linux hardware shops

2009-01-25 Thread Tom Sparks
we have apple shops, so why not linux shops?

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Sent: Sunday, 25 January, 2009 10:50:10 AM
Subject: Re: linux hardware shops

The problem is there isnt Linux Hardware

Almost every computer shop will sell the hardware you need, you just
need to know what brands tend to have better support.

Id recommend intel chipset, asus motherboard, an an Nvidia graphics
card. That being said, there are many other viable options.

You can do anything you set your mind to when you have vision,
determination, and and endless supply of expendable labor.

No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great
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 are there any shops in qld that only sell linux hardware?

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Re: linux hardware shops

2009-01-25 Thread Daniel Mons
 From: Matt Lye lyem...@gmail.com
 The problem is there isnt Linux Hardware

Tom Sparks wrote:
 we have apple shops, so why not linux shops?
 

There are plenty of shops that sell Linux *software*.  But as Matt
already said, there is no such thing as Linux hardware, at least not
in the typical desktop PC market.

If you want non-PC hardware with embedded Linux on it, you don't have to
look far.  DLink routers, Sony Bravia TVs and BluRay players, dozens of
commercial DVD players - they all run Linux.

If you want to buy PCs with Linux pre-loaded, there are plenty of places
that sell such combos.  Asides from the usual Netbook market that's
boomed lately, there are beige-box sellers who do the same.  I assisted
this company some years ago with setting up a low-cost, Linux-driven
product:

http://www.cheapestpc.com.au/

And there are many others around too.

As for your idea of Linux shops, the answer boils down to the fact
that at this point in time, the average Linux user is a bit more
technically savvy than your average Windws/PC user.  End result is that
high-priced, profitable PCs with Linux pre-loaded won't sell very well
to the low-end-user market (which is where the profits are made).  You
need to understand that the average beige-box retailer makes about 3%
margin in their business.  Dell pull about 5%.  It's the type of
business where you don't bother selling hardware unless it's to the 99%
Joe Sixpack user.

Most PC places selling desktop Linux are targeting the two extremes of
the market: the ultra-low-cost desktop/netbook style device, or the very
expensive specialised Linux workstation user (I have a few clients in
the film and TV business who fall into the latter).  The middle ground
isn't a viable business model right here and now, although I'm confident
that will change as the years go by.

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Re: Pulse ?

2009-01-25 Thread alex stone
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 alex stone wrote:
  I can run with Video people possibly benefiting from using Pulse (any
 more
  or less than alsa/jack? I write music to image, and jack does fine here),
  but i'm a bit lost as to how Graphics people might prefer pulse over jack
 or
  alsa or oss or anything else.
 

 Graphics folks benefit from *not* having to worry about JACK. ;)

  I don't understand your answer to the pulse latency question. You were
 quick
  enough to tell me i'm wrong, but then cited ESD as 'worse' than pulse,
  without any sort of clue as to actual latency in pulse or not. Seems like
 a
  bit of a red herring.
 

 As far as latency with Pulse *generally* goes, I've spoken with Lennart
 himself and it cannot (and maybe will not) go where JACK does. If JACK
 were in the main repo we could get the Pulse/JACK plugin compiled but
 that adds latency as well.

 I'm actually a little confused by the confusion. Starting JACK with
 JACKcontrol, Pulse should be stopped for as long as JACKcontrol is
 going. I forget but it *might* even be tied to jackd itself. Luke can
 chime in here.

  You're completely off the mark with Ubuntu ppc. It's already done, and
  works, maintained as a community project. Package selection is large (as
  large as any other ubuntu from what i can see), and one can install from
  source without a hassle. I have RG 1.7.3svn running on my G4 a.k.a.
 UBUNTU
  HARDY PPC, as well as ardour 2, AND ardour 3. All installed from source
  without any extra pain or hassle. (Only missing the RT kernel)

 If we got someone to get together the -RT kernel and testing we would
 for sure put out a PPC Studio. We've just lacked the man-power.


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(Sadly, i can't code)

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Re: Linux DAW on powerpc (was pulse?)

2009-01-25 Thread alex stone
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Khashayar Naderehvandi 
khashayar.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  You're completely off the mark with Ubuntu ppc. It's already done, and
  works, maintained as a community project. Package selection is large (as
  large as any other ubuntu from what i can see), and one can install from
  source without a hassle. I have RG 1.7.3svn running on my G4 a.k.a.
 UBUNTU
  HARDY PPC, as well as ardour 2, AND ardour 3. All installed from source
  without any extra pain or hassle. (Only missing the RT kernel)
 
 This sounds interesting.
 I have an old iBook G4 with 768M of ram, running as a sort of server
 currently. Would you recommend that machine as a Linux DAW instead? I
 always thought it would be too slow for that sort of thing.

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Khashayar,

I can't actually answer this completely, as we don't have an RT environment
with which to make a comparison. But i will say, from my own humble
experience, that Linux runs faster on my little laptop, than mac ever did.

I'll make a correction here too. I'm using KUBUNTU HARDY, as i don't know if
that makes any difference for a Ubuntu vs ? comparison.
I also have enough foolhardy bravura/courage/pick one... in me to install
and try up to date packages from source/svn/etc... and so far i've either
been clever, or extremely lucky. I built a tiny linuxsampler template of
modest gig files as a sound engine, that runs ok for playback/recording (the
G4 is 867mhz, 512mb ram, titanium version), and rosegarden ticks along
without complaint, or stalling.

One thing is for sure from my personal experience. The G4 has a new lease of
life, and when i'm traveling, it serves well as a modest musical notepad for
that moment of sudden inspiration. :)

It would be fair to say that with any sizable arrangement, this size laptop
might struggle, but that would be true (and indeed was) running mac as well.
I've got further with the linux distro install, if that gives you some
indication of the worth of such a change.

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What HW/SW do people have working?

2009-01-25 Thread Larry David
Hi - I'm a Mac user and musician.  I'm thinking of switching to Linux  
with my next laptop, and am wondering what people are using for audio/ 
MIDI interfaces, and what software - DAW, plugins, softsynths, etc.?

It looks like developers are doing lots of exciting things with Linux  
and music (at CCRMA etc.), but what is the state of things for users  
who just want to make music and not tinker with code and spend lots  
of time debugging?  Does anyone have a setup that just works?

Thanks for the info.

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Re: What HW/SW do people have working?

2009-01-25 Thread Scott
Larry David wrote:
 Hi - I'm a Mac user and musician.  I'm thinking of switching to Linux  
 with my next laptop, and am wondering what people are using for audio/ 
 MIDI interfaces, and what software - DAW, plugins, softsynths, etc.?

I have a little Dell XPS 1210 which I recently got working for my modest little 
music 
studio.  All the details were in this post to the FFADO list:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=496C1F6E.9080701%40troutpocket.orgforum_name=ffado-user

Here it is in all its posterity:

Well, I got it all working.  I wanted to share my progress with everyone by 
editing
the wiki but I don't have access to that.  Here's what I did (in a nutshell):

My Kit:
Dell XPS M1210 laptop
1GB RAM
Intel T5600 1.8GHz Core2Duo
Intel 945GM Video controller
Sigmatel 9220 internal audio controller
Internal Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
http://tinyurl.com/clr43l

EchoAudio Audiofire12
http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/FireWire/AudioFire12/index.php

Ubuntu Studio 8.10 with RT (realtime) kernel

Steps:
1. Install UbuntuStudio 8.10.

2. Install all updates via update manager

3. Install RT kernel
~$ sudo apt-get install linux-rt

4. Install ffado drivers and accompanying libraries
In Synaptic Package Manager choose Settings/Repositories.  In the 
Software
Sources window choose the Third-Party Software tab.  Add the following:
deb http://www.ffado.org/apt gutsy contrib
Reload your package manager and install the following:
ffado-dbus-server
ffado-mixer-qt4
ffado-tools
jackd-firewire-driver
libffado2
libffado2-dev (just in case)

5. Configure grub to boot RT kernel by default
~$ sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
edit the line:
default 0
to say
default 4
or whatever number (counting from 0) is your rt entry in the file.  If 
you
don't do this you have to manually choose it at boot every time.

6. Add yourself to the disk and audio groups.  If the audio group doesn't 
already
   exist you can create it with the optional first command.
~$ sudo groupadd audio (optional step if audio group doesn't exist)
~$ sudo adduser username disk
~$ sudo adduser username audio

7. Adjust limits.conf to accommodate your RT kernel.
~$ sudo su -c 'echo @audio - rtprio 99  /etc/security/limits.conf'
~$ sudo su -c 'echo @audio - nice -19  /etc/security/limits.conf'
~$ sudo su -c 'echo @audio - memlock unlimited  
/etc/security/limits.conf'

8. Reboot to your RT kernel!

After you system is up and running you'll have to start jackd.  I recommend 
using
qjackctl to do this as it has a patchbay manager.  Make sure everything is 
plugged in
and running then start qjackctl (found in Sound  Video/Audio Production/JACK 
Control)

9. You must install the raw1394 kernel module. Unfortunately my ability to 
get this
   to stick hasn't worked.  No problem, just run the following short 
command after
   each boot:
~$ sudo modprobe raw1394

10. Here are the changes I made to the default jackd config by clicking 
Setup:
Driver = firewire
Realtime (checked)
Priority = 70
Frames/Period = 64
Sample Rate = 48000
Periods/Buffer = 3
Port Maximum = 128
Interface = hw:0
Start Delay = 2

11. Click the Patchbay button.  Click the New button and let it discover 
your
port configurations itself.  Mine showed System with 12 capture ports 
listed
under Output and it showed System with 12 playback ports under Input.  
Select
System in both windows and choose Connect.  You may have to click the 
Activate
though I don't really know exactly what that does.

Click the start button and pray for no xruns.  Following these exact steps I've 
been
able to successfully record in Ardour for 30ish minutes without xruns or program
errors.  It may go longer but I haven't bothered trying yet.

The big hurdle I encountered was outdated information on many websites.  First 
of all,
the Ricoh 1394 controller does not work with 8.04.1 RT kernel.  It is working
wonderfully with my 8.10 RT kernel.  I hope someone can update the page at:

http://subversion.ffado.org/wiki/HostControllers

to show that success has been had with the Ricoh R5C832 1394 controller and 
perhaps
reference this guide.

Guides from which I shamelessly ripped off information:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
http://www.ffado.org/?q=release/apt

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Re: Pulse ?

2009-01-25 Thread Hartmut Noack
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Eric Hedekar schrieb:
 On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM, alex stone compos...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Why can't we make pulse optional in UBStudio?

 I understand UBS as an audio specific distro that focuses on
 audio/multimedia production. We use RT, Jack, etc, knowing precisely what
 UBS is designed for.


 Alex.


 Next, I think it's good to point out in this argument, that UBStudio is NOT
 an audio specific distribution - it's a multimedia specific distribution.
 Audio users may make up a large portion of the user base,  but they're not
 the only cats in town.  Graphics and Video people benefit greatly from
 Pulse.

Everything, I repeat: everything Video/Graphics people can possibly want
from a Linux Distro, is in the standard (K)(X)UBUNTU. It would be
marketing at best to provide a whatsoever special distro for people,
that only want to cut some movies and design graphics.
The one and only relevant reason for a special distro like UBS, CCRMA or
 JAD is in fact the RT-capability including am optimized Kernel and a
proper automagic to configure the system to work with it (limits.conf,
timer resolution and firewire-setup).
If the latter is not a must-have, UBS would be nothing but a theme(many
people dislike) and a set of preinstalled apps (everybody can install
with a few clicks in synaptic).

 Graphics and Video people benefit greatly from
 Pulse.

If this is so (I doubt it is...) may it be: there are a lot of UBS-users
like me, that prefer XFCE or KDE, Fluxbox etc. instead of GNOME and we
all still accept, that GNOME is the standard-desktop for UBS. We simply
install whatever DE we like and use the apps and have the benefit of the
RT-optimisation as well.
But pulse interferes with audio and so it should be removed from UBS, it
would be OK with me, if it is installed but I would like to have a
simple way to get rid of it. Ubuntu Studio Control should have a switch
for that: disable pulseaudio, click, done

The situation could be different if only the available jackd-plugin for
pulse would be installable, the same situation for xinelib.

There is NO sane reason not to have these plugins in universe and there
is absolutely not the slightest reason not to install these plugins with
UBS.
Cory has pointed out later on in this thread, that the core-devs do not
want  the jackd-plugin in pulse, because jackd is not in main - they
don't want to cope with that, because they do not care for audio-users,
I'd say. The UBS-team should not accept such politics lightly...

Anyway I have a Suse11.1 up and running now and thanks to jengelh with
the best RT-support I have seen since 64Studio 2.0. I run jackd all the
time with 8ms latency, no xruns on a machine on which the recent UBS
does not run jackd with less then 40ms.
And yes: of course you can install pulse and xinelib with proper
jackd-support with a few mouseclicks in Suse.
So I will see, how 9.04 improves the situation...

best regs
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Re: Pulse ?

2009-01-25 Thread Hartmut Noack
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 A more effective color management system would be needed prior to
 making the claim that EVERYTHING needed for graphics was present.

Yeah - right. But this is linked to licensing-issues, so I would not
blame a Linux-Distro for being imperfect in that...



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Re: Pulse ?

2009-01-25 Thread Billy C
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 Yeah - right. But this is linked to licensing-issues, so I would not
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The pieces are already present, were they packaged for easier
installation/included in the distro, that would make the
all-inclusive multimedia package a more valid claim, as color
management is ESSENTIAL to billable hours for graphic arts or
photography concerns.
As one of the audio users mentioned earlier, some of us would rather
spend the time with billable hours projects than tweaking and
debugging software.

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Re: dumb midi questions

2009-01-25 Thread simone-www.io-lab.org
...can you solder an smd chip?

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Atom Smasher a...@smasher.org wrote:
 brief introduction: i've been playing with hardware synths for ~15 years,
 and i've been running freeBSD on my desktop for almost that long. i have
 ideological reasons for not using closed-source OSes.

 i recently installed ubuntu-studio on a desktop, and it seems like a step
 in the right direction for integrating my hardware synths with a (mostly)
 FOSS environment.

 i've got a very solid understanding of midi in the hardware world, but the
 software is new to me and i'm not sure where to start. i'm having a hard
 time finding any recent how-to guides and it seems like a steep learning
 curve to sort out alsa, dssi, vst, ladspa, jack, etc, and how they all fit
 in together... if anyone can point me to some current doco on all that
 stuff...?

 and i recently bought what seems to be the worlds cheapest usb-midi
 adapter. when i connect it to my pc1600x, i have to add 40uS delay per
 byte, or else amidi doesn't get to see all of what's coming in. at least,
 a delay of 40uS/byte lets the computer receive a complete sysex dump
 (~19K), but i'm still loosing a lot of CC info when i move sliders on the
 pc1600x (verified with a few different midi monitors). this seems like a
 problem with the usb-midi adapter having too small a buffer... even using
 amidi to monitor the input from the usb adapter (pc1600x -- usb adapter),
 and using the pc1600x just to send control change messages, a lot of it is
 not getting past the adapter. if i use the usb port on my controller
 keyboard (bypassing the cheap usb-midi adapter), and turn a knob,
 EVERYTHING comes through. so, what should i be looking for in a
 low-end/entry-level usb-midi adapter that can handle large sysex dumps and
 plays well with linux?

 thanks...


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Re: dumb midi questions

2009-01-25 Thread Atom Smasher
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, simone-www.io-lab.org wrote:

 ...can you solder an smd chip?
===

if i have to. why?


 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Atom Smasher a...@smasher.org wrote:
 brief introduction: i've been playing with hardware synths for ~15 years,
 and i've been running freeBSD on my desktop for almost that long. i have
 ideological reasons for not using closed-source OSes.

 i recently installed ubuntu-studio on a desktop, and it seems like a step
 in the right direction for integrating my hardware synths with a (mostly)
 FOSS environment.

 i've got a very solid understanding of midi in the hardware world, but the
 software is new to me and i'm not sure where to start. i'm having a hard
 time finding any recent how-to guides and it seems like a steep learning
 curve to sort out alsa, dssi, vst, ladspa, jack, etc, and how they all fit
 in together... if anyone can point me to some current doco on all that
 stuff...?

 and i recently bought what seems to be the worlds cheapest usb-midi
 adapter. when i connect it to my pc1600x, i have to add 40uS delay per
 byte, or else amidi doesn't get to see all of what's coming in. at least,
 a delay of 40uS/byte lets the computer receive a complete sysex dump
 (~19K), but i'm still loosing a lot of CC info when i move sliders on the
 pc1600x (verified with a few different midi monitors). this seems like a
 problem with the usb-midi adapter having too small a buffer... even using
 amidi to monitor the input from the usb adapter (pc1600x -- usb adapter),
 and using the pc1600x just to send control change messages, a lot of it is
 not getting past the adapter. if i use the usb port on my controller
 keyboard (bypassing the cheap usb-midi adapter), and turn a knob,
 EVERYTHING comes through. so, what should i be looking for in a
 low-end/entry-level usb-midi adapter that can handle large sysex dumps and
 plays well with linux?

 thanks...


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Re: What HW/SW do people have working?

2009-01-25 Thread Scott
There was definitely no programming skill involved.  All I did was install some 
packages from the repo.  If you started with a blank mac or windows machine 
you'd go 
through similar steps to get it up and running.  My command line stuff can all 
be done 
in the GUI if cli isn't your bag.

It's definitely worth doing in Linux for the RT kernel capabilities.  Anyway, 
the 
entire process took about 10 minutes with a fast download connection.

-Scott

Larry David wrote:
 Thanks Scott.  I've gotten the impression that using audio/MIDI  
 hardware on a Linux machine is sort of the opposite of plug-and-play;  
 and if your experience is typical, then that is an understatement.   
 So is this kind of sleuthing and experimenting typical to get a Linux  
 machine to do music?  I'm not a programmer and don't have time to  
 figure all this stuff out - I like the FOSS philosophy, and really  
 hope Linux keeps growing - but it sounds like it may be a bit early  
 for the humble user to try doing music with it.  Am I wrong?
 
 Thanks again,
 ld
 
 
 On Jan 25, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Scott wrote:
 
 Larry David wrote:
 Hi - I'm a Mac user and musician.  I'm thinking of switching to Linux
 with my next laptop, and am wondering what people are using for  
 audio/
 MIDI interfaces, and what software - DAW, plugins, softsynths, etc.?
 I have a little Dell XPS 1210 which I recently got working for my  
 modest little music
 studio.  All the details were in this post to the FFADO list:

 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=496C1F6E. 
 9080701%40troutpocket.orgforum_name=ffado-user

 Here it is in all its posterity:

 Well, I got it all working.  I wanted to share my progress with  
 everyone by editing
 the wiki but I don't have access to that.  Here's what I did (in a  
 nutshell):

 My Kit:
 Dell XPS M1210 laptop
  1GB RAM
  Intel T5600 1.8GHz Core2Duo
  Intel 945GM Video controller
  Sigmatel 9220 internal audio controller
  Internal Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
  http://tinyurl.com/clr43l

 EchoAudio Audiofire12
  http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/FireWire/AudioFire12/index.php

 Ubuntu Studio 8.10 with RT (realtime) kernel

 Steps:
 1. Install UbuntuStudio 8.10.

 2. Install all updates via update manager

 3. Install RT kernel
  ~$ sudo apt-get install linux-rt

 4. Install ffado drivers and accompanying libraries
  In Synaptic Package Manager choose Settings/Repositories.  In the  
 Software
  Sources window choose the Third-Party Software tab.  Add the  
 following:
  deb http://www.ffado.org/apt gutsy contrib
  Reload your package manager and install the following:
  ffado-dbus-server
  ffado-mixer-qt4
  ffado-tools
  jackd-firewire-driver
  libffado2
  libffado2-dev (just in case)

 5. Configure grub to boot RT kernel by default
  ~$ sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
  edit the line:
  default 0
  to say
  default 4
  or whatever number (counting from 0) is your rt entry in the  
 file.  If you
  don't do this you have to manually choose it at boot every time.

 6. Add yourself to the disk and audio groups.  If the audio  
 group doesn't already
exist you can create it with the optional first command.
  ~$ sudo groupadd audio (optional step if audio group doesn't exist)
  ~$ sudo adduser username disk
  ~$ sudo adduser username audio

 7. Adjust limits.conf to accommodate your RT kernel.
  ~$ sudo su -c 'echo @audio - rtprio 99  /etc/security/limits.conf'
  ~$ sudo su -c 'echo @audio - nice -19  /etc/security/limits.conf'
  ~$ sudo su -c 'echo @audio - memlock unlimited  /etc/security/ 
 limits.conf'

 8. Reboot to your RT kernel!

 After you system is up and running you'll have to start jackd.  I  
 recommend using
 qjackctl to do this as it has a patchbay manager.  Make sure  
 everything is plugged in
 and running then start qjackctl (found in Sound  Video/Audio  
 Production/JACK Control)

 9. You must install the raw1394 kernel module. Unfortunately my  
 ability to get this
to stick hasn't worked.  No problem, just run the following  
 short command after
each boot:
  ~$ sudo modprobe raw1394

 10. Here are the changes I made to the default jackd config by  
 clicking Setup:
  Driver = firewire
  Realtime (checked)
  Priority = 70
  Frames/Period = 64
  Sample Rate = 48000
  Periods/Buffer = 3
  Port Maximum = 128
  Interface = hw:0
  Start Delay = 2

 11. Click the Patchbay button.  Click the New button and let it  
 discover your
 port configurations itself.  Mine showed System with 12  
 capture ports listed
 under Output and it showed System with 12 playback ports  
 under Input.  Select
 System in both windows and choose Connect.  You may have 

Re: What HW/SW do people have working?

2009-01-25 Thread Thomas Fisher
On Sunday 25 January 2009 09:21:19 am Larry David wrote:
 Hi - I'm a Mac user and musician.  I'm thinking of switching to Linux
 with my next laptop, and am wondering what people are using for audio/
 MIDI interfaces, and what software - DAW, plugins, softsynths, etc.?

 It looks like developers are doing lots of exciting things with Linux
 and music (at CCRMA etc.), but what is the state of things for users
 who just want to make music and not tinker with code and spend lots
 of time debugging?  Does anyone have a setup that just works?

 Thanks for the info.

 ld
Check out the LAU {Linux Audio Users} list. Very active list. 
http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/lau.html

the archive is a treasure trove
http://lalists.stanford.edu/

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Re: What HW/SW do people have working?

2009-01-25 Thread Larry David

On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Scott wrote:

 Larry David wrote:
 Are you using a Linux machine regularly to do audio/MIDI and finding
 it solid and useable, or is this still mostly an experiment to see
 what you can get running and for how long?

 I'm not doing any MIDI, just audio recording 12 tracks in Ardour.   
 It's working 100%
 with no xruns or crashes.  My longest continuous session was 45  
 minutes before I
 stopped it to save.  I'm actually a little surprised it's working  
 so well in 8.10
 considering it was complete trash in 8.04.

I see, that's very interesting.  Please forgive my complete ignorance  
of all things Linux, but what's an xrun?  Do you know why Ardour  
works for you in 8.10 and didn't in 8.04?  I mean did you figure  
something out or did you do everything the same and it just worked  
differently?


 About 5 years ago I had an old DAW that ran in NT4 and used a PCI  
 audio capture card.
   It crashed about 1 in 5 times and both the hardware and software  
 folks claimed that
 was normal.  There was no win2k or newer support and it suffered  
 from a 1/2 second
 recording delay.  That was the biggest pain because it required  
 tons of
 post-production editing.

I think Windows machines crash more and are generally not as good for  
music apps as Macs - I know that's a generalization and I'm not  
trying to be a snob - but Mac has always catered more to multimedia,  
and Windows to business.  The fact that Mac OS only runs on Apple  
machines, and MOTU hardware and software is developed and tested on  
the exact same machines that users have, makes it run a lot more  
smoothly than Windows DAWs.  There are still problems occasionally of  
course, but like I said before, Mac+MOTU just plain works 99.9% of  
the time.


 RT provides for only a 2ms delay which is a dream... I just hit  
 record and can punch
 in/out at will then export to an audio file.  Even a Mac or PC  
 can't match that.  If
 it wasn't for RT capability I wouldn't have bothered with Linux.   
 The fact that my day
 to day work takes place in the context of Linux helps, but it  
 wasn't the deciding
 factor in choosing an OS to host my audio tools.  I'd use a  
 Nintendo if the quality
 and applications were as awesome as those available to Linux :^).

Now this is very interesting.  RT means real time, right?  Is there  
some real time capability that Linux has for processing audio that  
Mac does not?  Does the Mac CoreAudio or whatever it is not provide  
the same functionality?  I've never heard it claimed that Linux was  
*better* than Macs (or anything else) for music/audio, but if that's  
true, that would be a big deal for me.  And you say the apps are  
awesome - I know about Ardour; is it really as good or better than  
say Digital Performer or Logic or Protools (which I understand it is  
trying to emulate)?  What other music/audio apps are so great?

I really want to be convinced that Linux is the way to go - cheaper  
machine and free SW - can't beat that with a stick.  But I'm very  
skeptical - you get what you pay for and all that...  But maybe the  
FOSS movement/whatever can change that, at least with regards to SW.

ld


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Re: What HW/SW do people have working?

2009-01-25 Thread Scott
Larry David wrote:
 On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Scott wrote:
 
 Larry David wrote:
 Are you using a Linux machine regularly to do audio/MIDI and finding it 
 solid
 and useable, or is this still mostly an experiment to see what you can get
 running and for how long?
 I'm not doing any MIDI, just audio recording 12 tracks in Ardour. It's 
 working
 100% with no xruns or crashes.  My longest continuous session was 45 minutes
 before I stopped it to save.  I'm actually a little surprised it's working so
 well in 8.10 considering it was complete trash in 8.04.
 
 I see, that's very interesting.  Please forgive my complete ignorance of all 
 things
 Linux, but what's an xrun?  Do you know why Ardour works for you in 8.10 and 
 didn't
 in 8.04?  I mean did you figure something out or did you do everything the 
 same and
 it just worked differently?

I did everything in 8.10 as I did it in 8.04.  I honestly don't know what's 
different
since I'm just a user, not a programmer.  This may answer your questions about 
xruns, 
latency, etc.

http://subversion.ffado.org/wiki/SomeNotesOnLatency

Pay attention to the section titled So why is the latency higher than on OS 
XYZ?  In 
any case,

 Now this is very interesting.  RT means real time, right?  Is there some 
 real
 time capability that Linux has for processing audio that Mac does not?

I don't know.  I can run Linux on commodity hardware but a Mac costs bank.  A 
recent 
email thread on the ffado-users list (or was it this list?) discussed why Apple 
and 
Microsoft wouldn't devote the resources to making an RT version of their OS 
because 
the proaudio community is too small to bother supporting, or perhaps they just 
can't 
do it.  Again... I'm not a kernel hacker, I'm just good at following directions.

 I really want to be convinced that Linux is the way to go - cheaper machine 
 and
 free SW - can't beat that with a stick.  But I'm very skeptical - you get 
 what you
 pay for and all that... 

You can always contribute to the cause.  Donate buttons are on the right side 
of the 
page at http://ardour.org.

 ld

BTW, I loved Curb Your Enthusiasm. :^)

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[ubuntu-ec] Ultimas decisiones comunitarias acordadas

2009-01-25 Thread Gerencia Técnica FB SISTEMAS
Estimados miembros de la comunidad:
Pongo en su conocimiento, las ultimas decisiones tomadas por la 
comunidad, en la reunion del dia domingo 18 de enero del 2009.
- Hemos tomado muy en cuenta las sugerencias y pedidos de 
nuestro compañero Hubuntu, por lo cual se llego en concenso a los 
siguiente:
1) Se define como grupo administrador y mantenedor del portal 
comunitario GNU/Linux Ubuntu Ecuador, a los compañeros Ecubuntu, 
Bitfrost , y Hubuntu. Si alguien necesita hacer aportes, tiene ideas 
sobre el portal, o desea ayudar en su manutencion, estas son las 
personas indicadas. Solicitamos comedidamente a nuestro 
companero Hubuntu ceder las claves de administracion y accesos 
respectivos para que estos companeros puedan colaborar con su 
conocimiento y tiempo.
2)Presencia activa en el Flisol 2009, todas las comunidades 
ubunteras locales de Ecuador, son llamadas a colaborar con el flisol, 
como evento de difusion inter-comunitaria del software libre, todos 
son beinvenidos, sin importar que distribución sea la mayoritaria en 
instalarse o usarse, lo importante es colaborar como la gran familia 
del software libre que somos. Es uno de los puntos filosoficos fuertes 
de la comunidad ubuntera: -La solidaridad-. Por parte de la 
comunidad se esta gestionando la recepcion de dos conference-
pack, esta en tramite el poder evitar que las aduanas nos cobren 
aranceles, siendo este material, una donacion comunitaria y no 
comercial.
Tomar muy en cuenta, que tendremos la oportunidad de poner un 
stand comunitario para presentar la imagen comunitaria, hacer 
talleres en vivo, y realizar ponencias de cualesquier indole, que 
atañen a GNU/Linux Ubuntu.
3)Podemos dar presencia activa y formal, a mas de promocionar 
nuestra distro en el ciberesapcio con una tienda virtual en la cual se 
pueden vender articulos comunitarios con logotipos localizados de 
ubuntu Ecuador. Esto es camisetas, llaveros, vasos, gorras, 
memorias flash, etc; la idea es que con poca inversion monetaria , 
poder tener un retorno de inversion, lo cual nos permita solventar 
gastos comunitarios como el hosting, el registro del website, hacer 
propagandas propias, etc.
4)Se solicitara una contribucion de 50 USD al año, o 5 USD 
mensuales a aquellas empresas que deseen estar en el apartado de 
soporte comercial, se ha prestado ese espacio por casi dos años, 
ahora les solicitamos que apoyen a la comunidad con esta pequeña 
colaboracion monetaria.
5)De igual forma los compañeros que deseen hacer alguna donacion 
para ayudar a solventar gastos comunitarios, es posible hacerlo a 
traves del portal comunitario, en la seccion donaciones que pronto se 
implementara.
6)Se designa a Gina Brito como la procuradora (tesorera) de la 
comunidad, la cual velara por los fondos recolectados, los gastos 
sufragados y responsablemente presentara un informe detallado 
trimestral del uso de esos fondos; cualesquier duda o inquietud, ella 
estara gustosa de atenderles.
7)La responsabilidad de ser la cara visible en Ecuador y contacto de 
la comunidad recayo en este humilde servidor, Pedro Franco. 
8)Para tratar temas de importancia, que atañen a la comunidad por 
parte de los responsables designados (concejo comunitario) se 
necesita crear una lista propia en el mailman de ubuntu-ec.
Ahora una sugerencia, para las comuidades; creo necesario este año 
dar apoyo presencial a las comunidades locales, por lo cual, de ser 
posible, si colaboran en eventos programados, puedo visitarles y dar 
una que otra ponencia, asi aprovechamos y conversamos de los 
planes de la comunidad, enrtre otras cosas. La voluntad esta, solo 
queda en ustedes que nos organicemos.
Asi mismo, no se olviden que el ministerio de educacion, ha 
empezado a mirar el software libre como herramienta didactica, seria 
bueno que trabajemos en el Ubuntec, que es el evento educativos 
macro, que no se pudo realizar el año pasado, esperemos que este 
año se haga realidad.
Convoco a los compañeros a reunirnos mas fluidamente y 
contactarnos por via chat el proximo sabado a las 15H00 de Ecuador 
Continental; les esperamos.
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[ubuntu-ec] Eliminar mi cuenta de la LISTA

2009-01-25 Thread ubuntu
Señores Ubuntu.ec solicito eliminar mi mail de la lista los correos de
ml...@seven.ec y ubu...@seven.ec
ya que hasta HOY solo leo las quejas de Alex Montenegro hacia Rubén Romero y 
Cordero,

1. Rubén ha hecho lo que NADIE ha hecho por ECUADOR EN UBUNTU
2. Prefiero continuar destinando el esfuerzo y dinero de Seven Studio al 
servicio de la comunidad con UBUNTU fuera de esta lista como desde hace 1 año.

3. Felicitaciones!  Rubén por el ORDEN y hacer lo que haces por ECUADOR con 
UBUNTU.

ATT.
Mauricio Luna
Gerente de Tecnología
Seven Studio.



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[Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu i686

2009-01-25 Thread Flávio Barros
Por que a Canonical  http://www.ubuntu.com/news/us-based-shopnão
disponibiliza compilações i868 do Ubuntu tipo como o  Gentoo faz ?

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[Ubuntu-BR] Firefox com a cara do Chrome

2009-01-25 Thread Flávio Barros
Tem como deixar o firefox com a aparência do Chrome ? pelo menos com aquela
página inicial onde aparecem os sites mais visitados, adicionados
recentemente no bookmark, etc.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Firefox com a cara do Chrome

2009-01-25 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
Já tem chrome para Linux? Onde encontro?

CR


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 Tem como deixar o firefox com a aparência do Chrome ? pelo menos com aquela
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] driver vesa

2009-01-25 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
Penso diferente: toda evolução implica avanço, melhoria. O problema que está
acontecendo agora é que ainda não sabemos como corrigir os erros (eu também
estou com essa dificuldade) como fazíamos antes. Não vai demorar muito para
termos outra ferramenta, possivelmente melhor, para resolver isso.

CR

2009/1/24 José Geraldo Gouvêa jggou...@gmail.com

 Em Sáb, 2009-01-24 às 09:27 -0200, Zandre Bran escreveu:
  2009/1/23 José Geraldo Gouvêa jggou...@gmail.com:
 
  Ôlas Gouvêa :)
 
  [...] A própria Canonical descontinuou o displayconfig-gtk no Intrepid
 porque
   segundo a turma de desenolvimento, editar o xorg.conf é mais fácil do
   que usar esse programa que traz mais novos problemas do que novas
   soluções para antigos problemas.
 
  Que saiba iste foi mais devido ao avanço do X. Gosto muito deste
 artigo:

 Pois eu não gosto não Zandre. O meu sistema aqui só funcionou quando eu
 pus lá um xorg.conf com as opções certas para o OpenChrome. E aí? Que
 opções eu tinha?

 Tudo está muito bem enquanto funciona, mas jogar fora a caixa de
 ferramentas não me parece uma boa idéia.

 Ainda bem que o xorg.conf ainda é honrado pelo X. No dia em que não for
 mais, aí se o LInux der pau no vídeo então o remédio vai ser fazer o
 que? Voltar pro Windows?



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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Firefox com a cara do Chrome

2009-01-25 Thread Evandro Begati
Aqueles sites mais visitados, tente o Fast Dial
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5721

Para deixar com aparência de Chrome, use o Chromifox:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8782




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 Já tem chrome para Linux? Onde encontro?

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 2009/1/25 Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.com

  Tem como deixar o firefox com a aparência do Chrome ? pelo menos com
 aquela
  página inicial onde aparecem os sites mais visitados, adicionados
  recentemente no bookmark, etc.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] O Peso da Interface

2009-01-25 Thread José Geraldo Gouvêa
Hoje, enquanto tentava habilitar as teclas multimídia no Rhythmbox,
descobri que as configurações de teclado mudaram entre as versões 8.04 e
8.10. Apaguei a pasta .gconf/.../peripherals e reiniciei o X. Com isso
verifiquei que o sistema está MUITO mais rápido do que antes. Vou até
experimentar apagar algumas outras pastas para ver no que dá.

Detalhe que este erro não teria sido evitado com uma instalação limpa
a menos que fosse recriado o diretório $HOME -- o que não é algo
necessário e nem aconselhável, visto que o diretório de cada usuário é
onde ficam armazenados os seus documentos.




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Reativar swap.

2009-01-25 Thread Salles
Em Sex, 2009-01-23 às 18:48 -0200, Alexandre Martani escreveu:
 sudo gedit /etc/fstab

Alexandre,

Ok, a partição passou a ativa, mas não observei qualquer uso dela no
monitor de sistema (consta o tamanho, mas uso zero).
Pergunto: no mount point da sda5 consta none, teria que alterar
para /swap?

Segue o resultado após a alteração do UUID:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
# /dev/sda1
UUID=1e00829f-f855-4987-86ed-3dd46bc8e225 /   ext3
relatime,errors=remount-ro 0   1
# /dev/sda5
UUID=c3c0ac89-b39b-446f-8f62-61c7ddbc2381 noneswapsw
0   0

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Reativar swap.

2009-01-25 Thread Alexandre Martani
Não, tem que ficar assim mesmo.. Swap não é montada em nenhum diretório.

Onde vc viu que a partição está ativa? Ela passa a funcionar
corretamente se vc ativá-la com o swapon, como o colega disse?

sudo swapon /dev/sda5

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2009/1/25 Salles salles@gmail.com:
 Em Sex, 2009-01-23 às 18:48 -0200, Alexandre Martani escreveu:
 sudo gedit /etc/fstab

 Alexandre,

 Ok, a partição passou a ativa, mas não observei qualquer uso dela no
 monitor de sistema (consta o tamanho, mas uso zero).
 Pergunto: no mount point da sda5 consta none, teria que alterar
 para /swap?

 Segue o resultado após a alteração do UUID:
 # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
 # file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
 proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
 # /dev/sda1
 UUID=1e00829f-f855-4987-86ed-3dd46bc8e225 /   ext3
 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0   1
 # /dev/sda5
 UUID=c3c0ac89-b39b-446f-8f62-61c7ddbc2381 noneswapsw
 0   0

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Reativar swap.

2009-01-25 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
Pergunto: no mount point da sda5 consta none, teria que alterar
para /swap?

Não. Teu fstab está correto. O uso so swap depende do uso do sistema e da
quantidade de memória RAM. Dependendo desses itens o swap até pode ser
dispensado.

CR

2009/1/25 Salles salles@gmail.com

 Em Sex, 2009-01-23 às 18:48 -0200, Alexandre Martani escreveu:
  sudo gedit /etc/fstab

 Alexandre,

 Ok, a partição passou a ativa, mas não observei qualquer uso dela no
 monitor de sistema (consta o tamanho, mas uso zero).
 Pergunto: no mount point da sda5 consta none, teria que alterar
 para /swap?

 Segue o resultado após a alteração do UUID:
 # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
 # file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
 proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
 # /dev/sda1
 UUID=1e00829f-f855-4987-86ed-3dd46bc8e225 /   ext3
 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0   1
 # /dev/sda5
 UUID=c3c0ac89-b39b-446f-8f62-61c7ddbc2381 noneswapsw
 0   0

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Reativar swap.

2009-01-25 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
Prefiro usar o comando free. Veja o resultado abaixo

k4rib...@ubuntu8041:~$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   10269241013200  13724  0  36320 324920
-/+ buffers/cache: 651960 374964
Swap:  1052216  398081012408

CR

2009/1/25 Alexandre Martani
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 Não, tem que ficar assim mesmo.. Swap não é montada em nenhum diretório.

 Onde vc viu que a partição está ativa? Ela passa a funcionar
 corretamente se vc ativá-la com o swapon, como o colega disse?

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 2009/1/25 Salles salles@gmail.com:
  Em Sex, 2009-01-23 às 18:48 -0200, Alexandre Martani escreveu:
  sudo gedit /etc/fstab
 
  Alexandre,
 
  Ok, a partição passou a ativa, mas não observei qualquer uso dela no
  monitor de sistema (consta o tamanho, mas uso zero).
  Pergunto: no mount point da sda5 consta none, teria que alterar
  para /swap?
 
  Segue o resultado após a alteração do UUID:
  # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
  # file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
  proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
  # /dev/sda1
  UUID=1e00829f-f855-4987-86ed-3dd46bc8e225 /   ext3
  relatime,errors=remount-ro 0   1
  # /dev/sda5
  UUID=c3c0ac89-b39b-446f-8f62-61c7ddbc2381 noneswapsw
  0   0
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Reativar swap.

2009-01-25 Thread Salles
Em Dom, 2009-01-25 às 15:28 -0200, Alexandre Martani escreveu:
 Não, tem que ficar assim mesmo.. Swap não é montada em nenhum diretório.
 Onde vc viu que a partição está ativa? Ela passa a funcionar
 corretamente se vc ativá-la com o swapon, como o colega disse?
 sudo swapon /dev/sda5

Vi que está ativa pelo monitor de sistema e pelo gparted.
Pode ser que nenhum processo ainda a utilizou, constam os Mbs de tamanho
e zero de uso.
Também executei o swapon agora e me informa que o dispositivo ou recurso
está ocupado, logo, está ativo.

Vou observar quando estiver em um download, pois só ví o swap sendo
usado quando o sistema utiliza mais de 50% da ram. Como estou muito
abaixo disto, o swap está zerinho.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Reativar swap.

2009-01-25 Thread Salles
Em Dom, 2009-01-25 às 14:28 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro escreveu:
 Pergunto: no mount point da sda5 consta none, teria que alterar
 para /swap?
 
 Não. Teu fstab está correto. O uso so swap depende do uso do sistema e da
 quantidade de memória RAM. Dependendo desses itens o swap até pode ser
 dispensado.

Blz, Carlos.

Estava na dúvida mas já entendi isto. 
Meu consumo de memória está baixo mesmo, por isto o swap não está sendo
utilizado.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Reativar swap.

2009-01-25 Thread Salles
Em Dom, 2009-01-25 às 14:34 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro escreveu:
 Prefiro usar o comando free. Veja o resultado abaixo
 k4rib...@ubuntu8041:~$ free
  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
 Mem:   10269241013200  13724  0  36320 324920
 -/+ buffers/cache: 651960 374964
 Swap:  1052216  398081012408

Legal, gostei para informação instantânea porque é bem detalhado, mas
para monitoramento em tempo (quase) real...

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu i686

2009-01-25 Thread Tadeu Cruz
Ola,

Sempre achei que Ubuntu perde muita performace por compilar tudo em 
i386, deve ser questao de compatibilidade com maquinas antigas. Porem 
como maquinas com dual core esta ficando padrao acho que o futuro é o 64.

Infelizmente tem um grande diferença de performace entre Distro 
compiladas em i386 para i686 e acho dificil vermos um ubuntu i686.

http://www.guiadohardware.net/faq/linux-sl/i386-i468-i586-i686-qual-diferenca.html

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Em 25-01-2009 09:46, Flávio Barros escreveu:
 Por que a Canonicalhttp://www.ubuntu.com/news/us-based-shopnão
 disponibiliza compilações i868 do Ubuntu tipo como o  Gentoo faz ?



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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu i686

2009-01-25 Thread Flávio Barros
Com certeza deve ser por compatibilidade mesmo.
Mas acho que eles poderiam fazer uma compilação em paralelo.

Abracos,

2009/1/25 Tadeu Cruz tadeuc...@tadeucruz.com

 Ola,

 Sempre achei que Ubuntu perde muita performace por compilar tudo em
 i386, deve ser questao de compatibilidade com maquinas antigas. Porem
 como maquinas com dual core esta ficando padrao acho que o futuro é o 64.

 Infelizmente tem um grande diferença de performace entre Distro
 compiladas em i386 para i686 e acho dificil vermos um ubuntu i686.


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софт для составления плейли стов

2009-01-25 Thread Dima Spodarets
Всем привет.
Кто какой софт знает для составления плейлистов, для дальнейшего
воспроизведения его на Icecast2 ???
Может у кого-то уже работает интернет радио... Поделитесь опытом его
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Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread Егор Вавилов
Если качать торрент через Deluge, то он занимает весь канал и ничего не
оставляет браузеру ( следствием является очень долга загрузка страниц ).
Можно ли понизить приоритет для Deluge так, чтобы интернет-канал в первую
очередь раздавался браузеру ( огнелису ), а что останется - торрент-клиенту.

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Re: Запись DL дисков

2009-01-25 Thread Егор Вавилов
25 января 2009 г. 12:40 пользователь Ilya Novikov
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 Коллеги, расскажите, кто чем пишет двухслойные диски в Убунте?

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Re: Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread Евсюков Денис
Можно по тупому ограничить полосу пропускания торрентов в самом
deluge, качать будет медленнее, но при работе можно сносно
пользоваться инетом.
Другой вариант - настраивать приоритеты трафика по портам. Странички
смотрим в основном по 80 порту, а торрент обычно на 6881... Более
подробно лучше смотреть в инете. У меня роутер сам этим занимается...

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 Если качать торрент через Deluge, то он занимает весь канал и ничего не
 оставляет браузеру ( следствием является очень долга загрузка страниц ).
 Можно ли понизить приоритет для Deluge так, чтобы интернет-канал в первую
 очередь раздавался браузеру ( огнелису ), а что останется - торрент-клиенту.

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Re: Запись DL дисков

2009-01-25 Thread Евсюков Денис
Да, brasero... Пока лучшая программа... =)

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 25 января 2009 г. 12:40 пользователь Ilya Novikov novikov.i...@gmail.com
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 Коллеги, расскажите, кто чем пишет двухслойные диски в Убунте?
 Лучший вариант - это, конечно, k3b. Но я, очистив систему от kde-библиотек,
 перешёл на стандартный brasero. Пару дисков нормально записал.

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Re: Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread Егор Вавилов
25 января 2009 г. 13:27 пользователь Евсюков Денис denis.evsyu...@gmail.com
 написал:

 Можно по тупому ограничить полосу пропускания торрентов в самом
 deluge, качать будет медленнее, но при работе можно сносно
 пользоваться инетом.
 Другой вариант - настраивать приоритеты трафика по портам. Странички
 смотрим в основном по 80 порту, а торрент обычно на 6881... Более
 подробно лучше смотреть в инете. У меня роутер сам этим занимается...


Хотелось бы узнать про второй вариант.
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Re: Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread Евсюков Денис
Делаем поиск в гугле по сочетанию linux полоса пропускания и
получаем кучу документов, и с примерами...

25 января 2009 г. 14:38 пользователь Егор Вавилов shec...@gmail.com написал:
 25 января 2009 г. 13:27 пользователь Евсюков Денис
 denis.evsyu...@gmail.com написал:
 Можно по тупому ограничить полосу пропускания торрентов в самом
 deluge, качать будет медленнее, но при работе можно сносно
 пользоваться инетом.
 Другой вариант - настраивать приоритеты трафика по портам. Странички
 смотрим в основном по 80 порту, а торрент обычно на 6881... Более
 подробно лучше смотреть в инете. У меня роутер сам этим занимается...
 Хотелось бы узнать про второй вариант.

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Re: Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread cryptosonbian
Устанавливайте wondershaper.

On Sunday 25 January 2009 11:43:44 Егор Вавилов wrote:
 Если качать торрент через Deluge, то он занимает весь канал и ничего не
 оставляет браузеру ( следствием является очень долга загрузка страниц ).
 Можно ли понизить приоритет для Deluge так, чтобы интернет-канал в первую
 очередь раздавался браузеру ( огнелису ), а что останется -
 торрент-клиенту.


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Re: Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
2009/1/25 cryptosonbian cryptosonb...@ukr.net:
 Устанавливайте wondershaper.

Или trickle.

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Re: Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread Stepanov Maxim

Dmitry Mityugov пишет:

2009/1/25 cryptosonbian cryptosonb...@ukr.net:
  

Устанавливайте wondershaper.



Или trickle.

  
Да, давайте изобретем велосипед... Может человеку еще линк на скрипты 
типа htb.init дадите? в делюге есть встроенный ограничитель, и он вполне 
справляется с данной задачей.
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Re: Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
2009/1/25 Stepanov Maxim r...@sudouser.com:
 Dmitry Mityugov пишет:

 2009/1/25 cryptosonbian cryptosonb...@ukr.net:


 Устанавливайте wondershaper.


 Или trickle.



 Да, давайте изобретем велосипед... Может человеку еще линк на скрипты типа
 htb.init дадите? в делюге есть встроенный ограничитель, и он вполне
 справляется с данной задачей.

Да, в Deluge есть встроенный ограничитель, но он ограничивает полосу
пропускания так, что даже если ресурсы канала не используются, Deluge
всё-равно будет качать на меньшей скорости. Встроенный ограничитель с
данной задачей - не справляется. И с версии 0.5.9 из Deluge был
выброшен шедуллер, который позволял хоть как-то обойти эту проблему.

Так что про велосипед - не надо.

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Re: Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread Alex Kahirin
Через какое оборудование сидишь в инете? У многих роутеров есть
встроенный шейпер трафика.
Как правило прще на нем настроить динамичский шейпинг.

25 января 2009 г. 23:39 пользователь Dmitry Mityugov
dmitry.mityu...@gmail.com написал:
 2009/1/25 Stepanov Maxim r...@sudouser.com:
 Dmitry Mityugov пишет:

 2009/1/25 cryptosonbian cryptosonb...@ukr.net:


 Устанавливайте wondershaper.


 Или trickle.



 Да, давайте изобретем велосипед... Может человеку еще линк на скрипты типа
 htb.init дадите? в делюге есть встроенный ограничитель, и он вполне
 справляется с данной задачей.

 Да, в Deluge есть встроенный ограничитель, но он ограничивает полосу
 пропускания так, что даже если ресурсы канала не используются, Deluge
 всё-равно будет качать на меньшей скорости. Встроенный ограничитель с
 данной задачей - не справляется. И с версии 0.5.9 из Deluge был
 выброшен шедуллер, который позволял хоть как-то обойти эту проблему.

 Так что про велосипед - не надо.

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Re: Deluge занимает весь канал

2009-01-25 Thread Егор Вавилов
26 января 2009 г. 0:28 пользователь Alex Kahirin kahirin1...@gmail.comнаписал:

 Через какое оборудование сидишь в инете? У многих роутеров есть
 встроенный шейпер трафика.
 Как правило прще на нем настроить динамичский шейпинг.

ADSL-модем ZyXEL P-600 series
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[Bug 321091] [NEW] Probleme de dependance

2009-01-25 Thread Phil
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: bacula

Préconfiguration des paquets...
Sélection du paquet bacula-common précédemment désélectionné.
(Lecture de la base de données... 293299 fichiers et répertoires déjà 
installés.)
Dépaquetage de bacula-common (à partir de 
.../bacula-common_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Adding user 'bacula'... Ok.
Sélection du paquet bacula-console précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de bacula-console (à partir de 
.../bacula-console_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Traitement des « déclenchements (triggers) » pour « man-db »...
Paramétrage de bacula-common (2.4.2-1ubuntu6) ...

Sélection du paquet bacula-director-common précédemment désélectionné.
(Lecture de la base de données... 293423 fichiers et répertoires déjà 
installés.)
Dépaquetage de bacula-director-common (à partir de 
.../bacula-director-common_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet libnet-daemon-perl précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de libnet-daemon-perl (à partir de 
.../libnet-daemon-perl_0.38-1.1_all.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet libplrpc-perl précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de libplrpc-perl (à partir de .../libplrpc-perl_0.2017-1.1_all.deb) 
...
Sélection du paquet libdbi-perl précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de libdbi-perl (à partir de .../libdbi-perl_1.605-1_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet libdbd-mysql-perl précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de libdbd-mysql-perl (à partir de 
.../libdbd-mysql-perl_4.007-1build1_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet mysql-client-5.0 précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de mysql-client-5.0 (à partir de 
.../mysql-client-5.0_5.0.67-0ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet mysql-client précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de mysql-client (à partir de 
.../mysql-client_5.0.67-0ubuntu6_all.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet bacula-director-mysql précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de bacula-director-mysql (à partir de 
.../bacula-director-mysql_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet bacula-sd précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de bacula-sd (à partir de .../bacula-sd_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet mysql-server-5.0 précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de mysql-server-5.0 (à partir de 
.../mysql-server-5.0_5.0.67-0ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet libhtml-template-perl précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de libhtml-template-perl (à partir de 
.../libhtml-template-perl_2.9-1_all.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet bacula-sd-mysql précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de bacula-sd-mysql (à partir de 
.../bacula-sd-mysql_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet bacula-server précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de bacula-server (à partir de 
.../bacula-server_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_all.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet bacula-fd précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de bacula-fd (à partir de .../bacula-fd_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet bacula-client précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de bacula-client (à partir de 
.../bacula-client_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_all.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet bacula précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de bacula (à partir de .../bacula_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_all.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet bacula-traymonitor précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de bacula-traymonitor (à partir de 
.../bacula-traymonitor_2.4.2-1ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
Sélection du paquet mysql-server précédemment désélectionné.
Dépaquetage de mysql-server (à partir de 
.../mysql-server_5.0.67-0ubuntu6_all.deb) ...
Traitement des « déclenchements (triggers) » pour « man-db »...
Paramétrage de bacula-console (2.4.2-1ubuntu6) ...

Paramétrage de bacula-director-common (2.4.2-1ubuntu6) ...

Paramétrage de libnet-daemon-perl (0.38-1.1) ...
Paramétrage de libplrpc-perl (0.2017-1.1) ...
Paramétrage de libdbi-perl (1.605-1) ...
Paramétrage de libdbd-mysql-perl (4.007-1build1) ...
Paramétrage de mysql-client-5.0 (5.0.67-0ubuntu6) ...
Paramétrage de mysql-client (5.0.67-0ubuntu6) ...
Paramétrage de bacula-director-mysql (2.4.2-1ubuntu6) ...
 * Stopping Bacula Director: 
   ...done.
 * Starting Bacula Director:
25-jan 11:11 bacula-dir: ERROR TERMINATION at parse_conf.c:829
Erreur de config : Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier de configuration 
« /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf » : Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type

   ...fail!
dpkg : erreur de traitement de bacula-director-mysql (--configure) :
 le sous-processus post-installation script a retourné une erreur de sortie 
d'état 1
Paramétrage de bacula-sd (2.4.2-1ubuntu6) ...

Paramétrage de mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.67-0ubuntu6) ...
 * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld
   ...done.
Reloading AppArmor profiles : done.
 * Starting MySQL database server mysqld
   ...done.
 * Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.

Paramétrage de libhtml-template-perl (2.9-1) ...
Paramétrage de bacula-sd-mysql (2.4.2-1ubuntu6) ...
dpkg : des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de 
bacula-server :
 bacula-server dépend de bacula-director-mysql 

[Bug 321091] Re: Probleme de dependance

2009-01-25 Thread Phil

** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21613864/Dependencies.txt

** Attachment added: DpkgTerminalLog.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21613865/DpkgTerminalLog.txt

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[Bug 292548] Re: nmbd -D uses 95% processor when there is not lan conection.

2009-01-25 Thread jbradi
I have achieved to reproduce the error again.
If I am connected in a wireless network and I swich off the card from the 
laptop, nmbd -D process takes 90-98% of processor use.
As long as I have wireless network allways connected, it is not a problem for 
me, but the problem with nmbd is still there.
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[Bug 321091] Re: Probleme de dependance

2009-01-25 Thread Andreas Olsson
I can confirm this.

It happens when you install bacula without having a previously installed
mysql server. The problem is that bacula-director-mysql tries its run
its configuration before the new mysql server has been started.

Workarounds:
pre-install) Make sure you have a mysql installed before you install bacula
post-install) purge and reinstall the packages becula and bacula-director-mysql

** Changed in: bacula (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 320777] Re: package samba-common 2:3.2.3-1ubuntu3.5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2009-01-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 314318 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/314318

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 314318
   Samba update crashed

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[Bug 320212] Re: cannot access samba share after mount.cifs

2009-01-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = New

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[Bug 321185] [NEW] Package mysql-server-5.1 failed to install: tried to ovewrite `/usr/sbin/mysqld', witch is already in package mysql-server-core-5.0

2009-01-25 Thread Roope Kuisma
Public bug reported:

Package mysql-server-5.1 failed to install: tried to ovewrite
`/usr/sbin/mysqld', witch is already in package mysql-server-core-5.0

Ubuntu release: Jaunty 9.04 alpha 3

ProblemType: Package
Architecture: i386
Dependencies:
 
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.04
ErrorMessage: yritetty ylikirjoittaa `/usr/sbin/mysqld', joka on myös paketissa 
mysql-server-core-5.0
Package: mysql-server-5.1 None [modified: 
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.1.list]
SourcePackage: mysql-dfsg-5.1
Title: package mysql-server-5.1 None [modified: 
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.1.list] failed to install/upgrade: yritetty 
ylikirjoittaa `/usr/sbin/mysqld', joka on myös paketissa mysql-server-core-5.0
Uname: Linux 2.6.28-5-generic i686

** Affects: mysql-dfsg-5.1 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: apport-package

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[Bug 321185] Re: Package mysql-server-5.1 failed to install: tried to ovewrite `/usr/sbin/mysqld', witch is already in package mysql-server-core-5.0

2009-01-25 Thread Roope Kuisma

** Attachment added: DpkgTerminalLog.gz
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21621591/DpkgTerminalLog.gz

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[Bug 320810] Re: package mysql-server-5.1 None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.1.lis t] failed to install/upgrade: prøver å skriv e over «/usr/sbin/mysqld», som også finne s i pakken mys

2009-01-25 Thread Andreas Olsson
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 321185 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/321185

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 321185
   Package mysql-server-5.1 failed to install: tried to ovewrite 
`/usr/sbin/mysqld', witch is already in package mysql-server-core-5.0

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[Bug 321185] Re: Package mysql-server-5.1 failed to install: tried to ovewrite `/usr/sbin/mysqld', witch is already in package mysql-server-core-5.0

2009-01-25 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package mysql-dfsg-5.1 - 5.1.30-2ubuntu4

---
mysql-dfsg-5.1 (5.1.30-2ubuntu4) jaunty; urgency=low

  [ Jonathan Riddell ]
  * Move data files to /usr/share/mysql-5.1 with
--datadir=/usr/share/mysql-5.1 to make them co-installable with mysql 5.0
  * Update debian/rules for the above change
  * Split out /usr/share/mysql-5.1 into new mysql-server-data-5.1 package.
These files are needed for embedded use of mysql (e.g. by Amarok).
  * Make mysql-server-5.1 conflict on mysql-server-core-5.0 (LP: #321185)

  [ Harald Sitter ]
  * Update all remaining references of usr/share/mysql/
  * Conflicts for the Kubuntu Intrepid deployment (subject for upgrade testing):
+ libmysqlclient16 replaces  conflicts amarok-libmysqlclient16
+ libmysqlclient16.dev replaces  conflicts amarok-libmysqlclient-dev
+ mysql-data-5.1 replaces  conflicts amarok-mysql-data
  * Link /usr/share/mysql-5.1/aclocal/mysql.m4 to /usr/share/aclocal/

 -- Harald Sitter apachelog...@ubuntu.com   Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:43:46
+0100

** Changed in: mysql-dfsg-5.1 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Fix Released

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[Bug 296952] Re: mysqlhotcopy failed on table with hyphen in name

2009-01-25 Thread Andreas Olsson
I'm attaching a debdiff which builds mysql-dfsg-5.0 without using the 56
-mysqlhotcopy-invalid-dbtable.dpatch

The resulting mysqlhotcopy seems to fix this bug without causing any
other problems.

These are the tests I've (successfully) tried.

# mysqlhotcopy --allowold foo-bar
# mysqlhotcopy --allowold mysql
# mysqlhotcopy --allowold foo-bar mysql /root/dump/
# mysqlhotcopy --allowold mysql./o/ /root/dump/

** Attachment added: debdiff to build mysql without 
56-mysqlhotcopy-invalid-dbtable.dpatch
   
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21623848/mysql-dfsg-5.0_5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.5.debdiff

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[Bug 296952] Re: mysqlhotcopy failed on table with hyphen in name

2009-01-25 Thread Andreas Olsson
I'm also attaching a modified mysqlhotcopy, which is the result of a
build using recently posted debdiff.

** Attachment added: modified mysqlhotcopy
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[Bug 321233] [NEW] Failed to install upgrade package

2009-01-25 Thread GregerL
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: bind9-host

Failed to insall or upgrade bind9-host1:9.5.0.dfsg.P2-1ubuntu3.1

ProblemType: Package
Architecture: i386
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.10
ErrorMessage: paketet console-setup är redan installerat och konfigurerat
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
Package: console-setup 1.25ubuntu4
PackageArchitecture: all
SourcePackage: console-setup
Title: package console-setup 1.25ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: paketet 
console-setup är redan installerat och konfigurerat
Uname: Linux 2.6.27-9-generic i686

** Affects: bind9 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: apport-package

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[Bug 321233] Re: Failed to install upgrade package

2009-01-25 Thread GregerL

** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21624860/Dependencies.txt

** Attachment added: DpkgTerminalLog.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21624861/DpkgTerminalLog.txt

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[Bug 306168] Re: Unable to connect network drive SAMBA Share

2009-01-25 Thread Dommo
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 264943 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264943

i was getting same error in intrepid x86

dmesg

 2305.421739] gvfsd-smb[8613]: segfault at 0 ip b79252c3 sp b739bc9c error 4 in 
libc-2.8.90.so[b78ae000+158000]
[ 2737.75] CE: hpet increasing min_delta_ns to 15000 nsec
[ 3132.683629] gvfsd-smb[9220]: segfault at 0 ip b79a92c3 sp b741fc9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b7932000+158000]
[ 3135.466598] gvfsd-smb[9226]: segfault at 0 ip b79262c3 sp b739cc9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b78af000+158000]
[ 3137.079947] gvfsd-smb[9234]: segfault at 0 ip b79a72c3 sp b741dc9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b793+158000]
[ 3138.551219] gvfsd-smb[9240]: segfault at 0 ip b78a62c3 sp b731cc9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b782f000+158000]
[ 3139.963568] gvfsd-smb[9247]: segfault at 0 ip b789d2c3 sp b7313c9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b7826000+158000]
[ 3141.428323] gvfsd-smb[9251]: segfault at 0 ip b79932c3 sp b7409c9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b791c000+158000]
[ 3143.037154] gvfsd-smb[9261]: segfault at 0 ip b78a02c3 sp b7316c9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b7829000+158000]
[ 3190.498049] gvfsd-smb[9316]: segfault at 0 ip b790f2c3 sp b7385c9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b7898000+158000]
[ 3204.607946] gvfsd-smb[9345]: segfault at 0 ip b79a92c3 sp b741fc9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b7932000+158000]



then i added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tcarrez/ubuntu intrepid main as a 
source repo, updated

dmesg still shows an error but i can connect to my nas just fine now.

here's the error:

[ 7348.824717] gvfsd-smb[14003]: segfault at 0 ip b792a2c3 sp b73a0c9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b78b3000+158000]
[ 7985.970395] gvfsd-smb[14606]: segfault at 0 ip b79d82c3 sp b744ec9c error 4 
in libc-2.8.90.so[b7961000+158000]

thanks for the fix...

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[Bug 316957] Re: package mysql-server-5.1 5.1 .30-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: 子 进程 post-installation script 返回了 错误号 1

2009-01-25 Thread Adomas Bosanova
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 316849 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316849

r...@pirate:~# mysqld
mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibvl92PS' (Errcode: 13)
090126  0:23:52  InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file; errno: 13
090126  0:23:52 [ERROR] Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: No such file 
or directory
090126  0:23:52 [ERROR] Do you already have another mysqld server running on 
socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ?
090126  0:23:52 [ERROR] Aborting

090126  0:23:52 [Note] mysqld: Shutdown complete

r...@pirate:~#

Any solutions?

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[Bug 250847] Re: Apache predefined script in redhat-cluster-suite is not properly setup for Ubuntu

2009-01-25 Thread Steve Langasek
It's my understanding that this is resolved in intrepid and above, where
the apache2 init script does provide a 'status' action.  Marking this
bug as invalid for rhcs, since no changes were required to that package.

** Changed in: redhat-cluster-suite (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

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[Bug 227848] Re: boot order wrong for iscsi

2009-01-25 Thread Steve Langasek
** Changed in: open-iscsi (Ubuntu Hardy)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Mathias Gug (mathiaz)

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Re: carte graphique Intel

2009-01-25 Thread Videl
Aucune idée, mais j'ai une carte Intel, et Compiz fonctionne aussi.
Comment ont fait pour avoir plus de détail ?
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clawsnake (pê resolu)

2009-01-25 Thread spir
Bonjour,

Il y a quelques jours j'ai lancé un fil sur le thème suivant:
*après* récupération des messages (la pop-up dit: terminé), clawsmail se 
suspendait durant une période de 15 à 30 s à vue de nez. Je me demandais si 
cela pouvait venir du filtrage, ou encore de l'anti-spam.
Comme il y a deux extensions anti-spam possibles sur claws mail, je suis passé 
de spam-assassin à bogofilter et tout va bien.
* Ca met donc hors de cause le filtrage (au sens d'aiguillage des nouveaux 
message dans les sous-dossiers)
* Voir si ça reste rapide avec bogofilter, car il me semble que spamassassin 
n'était pas lent au début (ce sont des logiciels au règles évolutives, qui 
apprennent).
* Le module spamassassin de claws lui est spécifique (pas le même paquet). 
Peut-être y a-t-il un bug dans leur version?

Denis

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double son

2009-01-25 Thread spir
Bonjour,

J'ai toujours ce problème de son depuis le passage à la  8.10:
il sort à la fois sur le HP de l'ordi et sur la sortie externe.
J'utilise ALSA comme contrôleur. Les réglagent agissent chacun soit sur les 2 
sorties, soit sur aucune. Le son ordi est horrible et malheureusement 
l'équilibre entre les deux sorties est tel que pour avoir du son externe je 
suis obligé de l'avoir audible sur l'ordi. Résultat, je bosse sans musique 
depuis lors.

Quelqu'un a une idée?
denis
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Re: pb imprimante

2009-01-25 Thread Patrick LASSERONT
Patrick BOUCHERIE a écrit :
 bonjour,
 quelqu'un peut il me donner le moyen de telecharger un driver pour une 
 imprimante canon i550,sous linux.
 merci.
 patrick 
salut,

voir http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/imprimante_canon_i250

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Re: pour une fois!!

2009-01-25 Thread Michel Leunen
jacques wrote:
 la communauté reunionnaise Ubuntu (600 menbres) serait tres contente de
 vous recevoir également.

C'est gentil, ça.
600 membres? Eh ben, vous êtes actifs là-bas! Félicitation.

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Fond d'écran parasite

2009-01-25 Thread Gourdon
Bonjour à tous,
J'ai transité sur ubuntu 6-10 pour quitter les problèmes générés le 
logiciel de bill.
Depuis hardy, tout me semblait parfait, petit réseau de 2 postes plus 
l'imprimante, avec un disque dur externe, des clés usb et l'accès à mes 
archives Windows sur un petit disque de mon plus vieil ordinateur.
Tout cela sans avoir pratiqué la moindre ligne de commande sur console.
Hélas les bonnes choses ont eu une fin hier, lorsque sur mon vieux poste 
est bizarrement apparu un écran bleu orné d'une magnifique fleur jaune 
orangée(rubbeckia) et un logo noir de gnome avec une fenêtre me 
demandant mon identifiant et le mot de passe!
le problème c'est que jamais auparavent, un identifiant n'a été créé?
Je ne peux plus accéder à mon écran habituel, ni à mes fichiers très 
nombreux et importants pour moi qui suis engagé dans plusieurs associations.
Qui peut me sortir de cette impasse§
Merci d'avance,
Gaby

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