[Ubuntu-ch] Marché attribué à Microsoft
Hello all, Just saw the news that the appeal of open source software companies against the decision of the Confederation to use MS-Products has been rejected: http://www.news.admin.ch/message/?lang=frmsg-id=34195 Strangly enough, the communique doesn't mention why the open source companies are considered as not admitted for an appeal by the judges. Also, the conclusion of the federal office that it respects the legal regulations seams to be a bit strange, since the judged did not decide on that but only decided whether the open source companies were admitted to make an appeal or not. Does anyone understand more of this? Or know a source that has more details? Regards Simon -- -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu bad for Scribus?
Hello all, As a occasional user of Scribus on Ubuntu (currently 9.10, but also used on previous versions), I have never had much difficulties. I recently designed a brochure using Scribus 1.3.5 and can't remember any crash. So maybe it would be an option to indeed change from Kubuntu to Ubuntu. But probably this also depends on the complexity of your layout work (not being a professional, mine is usually rather simple. Simon Theo Schmidt wrote: Hello list, In our office we started to use Scribus in Kubuntu 8.04 LTS. Constant crashes with version 1.3.4, which was recommended to us. Unfortunately the users have become accustomed to the features of 1.3.4, which are roughly those in 1.3.5 and 1.3.6, so going back to the stable version 1.3.3 is not a willing option. However 1.3.5 and 6 require QT4, which doesn't seem availble for Kubuntu 8.04. Unfortunately the users need to work right now and not wait for Kubuntu 10.04 LTS. I can bridge this gap until April/May with a separate PC just for Scribus, but the question arises what to do afterwards and indeed whether to continue to use Kubuntu. A Scribus developer (partially quoted below in German) claims that Ubuntu is the worst distribution for Scribus because Canonical manipulates the QT libraries. As Scribus is a must-have for our office this question is rather important to us. Does anybody here know if this cristicism will still have any basis in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? Or is it possible to use original QT libraries instead of those from Canonical, presumably from Debian? Best regards, Theo PS Although this is a kind of support question, I'm bringing it here because of the implications against Ubuntu's version of QT. Quote: Was die von Ihrer Grafikerin verwendete Version 1.3.4 angeht, muß ich jedoch warnen: Sie ist nicht nur etwas instabil, sondern geradzu katastrophal instabil, und sie ist auch niemals als stabil deklariert worden. ... Empfehlenswert ist also entweder wirklich die stabile Version 1.3.3.14 oder eben 1.3.6, das in den nächsten Tagen oder Wochen veröffentlicht werden wird. Qt3 und Qt4 lassen sich problemlos nebeneinander verwenden, wobei man allerdings sagen muß, daß Ubuntu für Scribus die denkbar ungeeignetste Plattform ist (selbst Windows oder gar das alte OS/2 sind hier besser!), weil Canonical die Bibliotheken derart manipuliert, daß zumindest reine Qt-Anwendungen haufenweise unerklärliche Fehler aufweisen, die nicht den Anwendungsprogrammierern, sondern der Ubuntu-Version von Qt (3 und 4) anzulasten sind. -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
[Ubuntu-ch] Page and date format in US-installation
Hello all, I have just updated my computer from Ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 (actually did a clean install and then copied my files back on my computer). One thing that I have never managed to configure properly is the standard page and date format. Since my installation is in US-en, page format is always Letter, and the date is MM/DD/ instead of DD.MM.. I just wondered whether there is any switch to easily change this once and for all and for all programmes without affecting the language settings. Thanks for any help. Simon -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
[ubuntu-marketing] Stop it - start now
Hi all, It's about two weeks that I'm on this mailinglist. I don't want to and can't judge about the debate that is going on. For me, it's just clear that I'll turn away if things do not change to more soon. I joined this list because I wanted to help with marketing. I don't mind if there is no leadership (although leaders can do a marveouls job of coordinating things), nor if there is no clear goal/mission/strategy. I think there are plenty of things we can do even without that. My proposition would be to create a marketing strategy mailinglist, where all the debate about mission, structure, leadership can be discussed and leave the present mailinglist for those who would like to focus on the operational part of ubuntu marketing. Discussion about strategy is indeed important and has to take place. It's just, for now I have the impression that the whole debate prevents those who want to DO something from getting active. So please, tell what you think about the idea of creating a separate mailinglist for strategy questions and if there is enough agreement, create such a list as soon as possible so that there is a place where we can focus on action. Simon PS: Otherwise it would of course be possible to do it the other way round: create a mailinglist for marketing-operation. -- --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Fwd: Guide for release party
Hello Rubén, Could you already set up a wiki site? I'd then progressively move over the text so that we can work together at it. As for the other references: I guess that organising a repository that contains all the marketing docs for the Locos will probably not be an easy task, but definitively a task that has a high priority. Thanks Simon PS: I very much like that note on http://flisol.info/ Este sitio no ve bien con Internet Explorer ;-) --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- Rubén Hubuntu a écrit : Forgot the Reply-all thing... -- Forwarded message -- From: *Rubén Hubuntu* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Guide for release party To: Simon Schneebeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Simon Schneebeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, It was nice to talk to all at the IRC chat today. Being about to fall asleep makes me leave before the chat ends. According to what has been discussed and with notes I've taken earlier, I've started a very first draft (still very early alpha stage) of a guide for release party organisers. Probably it would be best to set up a wiki-page for that. Unlukily I have no idea on how to do this. I hope that there is anyone who can help with this and a lot of community members who can help completing this with your own ideas and experiences. Input is most welcome. Regards Simon It looks good. I can give you a hand with the wiki, but you need to help me with a different layout of the document (point to point) to make it more accesible and easier to understand (and, nonetheless, put in the wiki ;) So.. Remind to self: While I am at it: I have compiled some marketing material in Spanish which I need to organize Organizing an InstallFest: http://installfest.info/FLISOL2008/InstallfestOrganizacion A guide to create a localserver to aid installation of FLOSS in events: http://installfest.info/FLISOL2008/ServidorLocal An ubuntu centric guide for this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EcuadorTeam/ConferenceAppearances/FLISOL/ServidorLocal A set of presentations in Spanish: http://flisol.info/FLISOL2008/Presentaciones And more presentations here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EcuadorTeam/MaterialPOP/Presentaciones Sorry for this, but in that way the resources are visible to more people and easier to organize by others than just Simon and me ;) Cheers, R, https://launchpad.net/~huayra https://launchpad.net/%7Ehuayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Fwd: Guide for release party
Hello Rubén, Thanks for your comments. I saw the resources that are already available. According to Saturday's discussion, I underline much more the outside marketing component of a release party which is not at all present at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleaseParty But maybe we can keep both of them, since for a small release party (community only) the above is rather sufficient. Being pretty busy this week, I'm not sure whether I'll have time to continue working on the new draft for a release party. Help on completing the new draft would be welcome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleasePartyDraft Regards Simon (glad to see that things are moving and not just discussing ;-) --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- Rubén Hubuntu a écrit : On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Simon Schneebeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Rubén, Could you already set up a wiki site? I'd then progressively move over the text so that we can work together at it. As for the other references: I guess that organising a repository that contains all the marketing docs for the Locos will probably not be an easy task, but definitively a task that has a high priority. Thanks Simon PS: I very much like that note on http://flisol.info/ Este sitio no ve bien con Internet Explorer ;-) --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- Hi Simon, We can use the Ubuntu Wiki for that. There is a guide there already we could improve: * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleaseParty I put a raw dump of your work here: * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleasePartyDraft I have to stress that it is better to collaborate in what is done already, rather than doing it all over again! Related pages: * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Resources * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConferenceTopTips * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseParty * https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-event-planners * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Campaigns/HardyRelease R. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Guide for release party
Hi all, It was nice to talk to all at the IRC chat today. Being about to fall asleep makes me leave before the chat ends. According to what has been discussed and with notes I've taken earlier, I've started a very first draft (still very early alpha stage) of a guide for release party organisers. Probably it would be best to set up a wiki-page for that. Unlukily I have no idea on how to do this. I hope that there is anyone who can help with this and a lot of community members who can help completing this with your own ideas and experiences. Input is most welcome. Regards Simon -- --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- Guide_Release_party_v1a2.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed (Mike Feravolo)
Alan Pope wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 18:31 +0200, Simon Schneebeli wrote: It looks like 8pm CMT this Saturday is a moment that suits well for It's probably better to quote times in UTC, as most other teams do. It makes it a lot easier for people to translate because most people know their timezone relative to UTC. Sorry about that. I have do admet that I had until now no idea what UTC means. That's why I gave the link to the webpage http://doodle.ch/csunnbdekfr7c345 So as it looks, we'll have the chance to chat together this saturday, June 7 at 21h UTC. Regards Simon -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed (Mike
Hi all, This here may help you choose a date and time that suits best. http://doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=csunnbdekfr7c345 Regards Simon --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- Bruno Barrera Yever wrote: How about 20:00 UTC on a saturday? On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 5:53 PM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're in the same time zone, and yes 7 am is early especially on a Saturday, but we have a 13 hour range of time zones on this list and we are on the early end. For those on the late end, noon UTC is 8 pm. Even a two hour meeting, which I feel would be a short one, makes it 10 pm for those peope. That's why I suggested Saturday, since, going on normal working hours, we don't have to worry about anyone having to get up early the next morning. On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 17:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for Saturday or Sunday preferably Sunday 12:00 here is 7 which I would consider too early, but if that's all right with everyone else its not a problem. On 5/31/08, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't know how accurate that is either. That's why I am asking. As far as my suggesting Saturday, I was under the impression that most people have a day job, which pretty much eliminates weekdays. I figured a Saturday would not interfer with things like work or sleep :-) and the 1200 UTC means it is not too early for those in the USA or too late for those in AU or the Far East. On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 16:27 -0500, Bruno Barrera Yever wrote: Well, according to the Meetings page [1] that wouldn't be convenient to most people Though, I don't know if that list is active. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 9:37 AM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that my original suggested time of 12:00 or 13:00 UTC for a start time will fit pretty much eveyone in terms of time zones. How is everyone feel about a Saturday meeting? Do we want to do this NEXT Saturday the 7th or Saturay the 14th? -- Peace! John You do have choice on what operating system you use: http://www.ubuntu.com/ I am an Ubuntu user! My profile: https://launchpad.net/~jbotscharow My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow -- Read my blog: http://hbotscharow.com John Botscharow: Reflections on Religion, Politics Life -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- Peace! John You do have choice on what operating system you use: http://www.ubuntu.com/ I am an Ubuntu user! My profile: https://launchpad.net/~jbotscharow My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow -- Read my blog: http://hbotscharow.com John Botscharow: Reflections on Religion, Politics Life -- Peace! John You do have choice on what operating system you use: http://www.ubuntu.com/ I am an Ubuntu user! My profile: https://launchpad.net/~jbotscharow My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow -- Read my blog: http://hbotscharow.com John Botscharow: Reflections on Religion, Politics Life -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu marketing?
Hello all, I'm now to this list. Just joined it after having done some help for a recent ubuntu release party where the marketing component was kind of not too bad but still with a potential to improve. That's why I started searching for information on ubuntu marketing and I hope I'm at the right place. To be honest, I'm kind of astonished that there is not more information about ubuntu or canonical's marketing strategy. I guess that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam should be the central place for information on that subject. Right? But already here it starts: Goal no 1: Increase market share. ... ... And then, some lines further down: Our target market is the existing Ubuntu Community, and LoCo's and Ubuntu-Team's to start with. This looks somehow strange to me. I want to say: how will it be possible to increase market share if the target market consist of those who already use Ubuntu? I don't want to devaluate your work, but is there any more precise marketing strategy than what is written on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam Thanks in advance for any complementary information Simon (interested in helping out) -- --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu marketing?
Actually, since this release party last month, I have the idea in my head to write something like a guide on how to organise a perfect release party. Instead of reinventing anything from scratch I thought I'd first look on what's going. I don't want to digg into this organisational problem and I'm not sure whether I have enought time to read all of your e-mail exchange. I just need some up do date information on the ubuntu marketing strategy. Is there any webpage or document that contains anything usable? Simon --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- John Botscharow wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 00:06 +0200, Simon Schneebeli wrote: That page needs some serious updating. But until we resolve our organizational issue, I don't expect there will be much updating done. My suggestion is follow what goes on here. Hello all, I'm now to this list. Just joined it after having done some help for a recent ubuntu release party where the marketing component was kind of not too bad but still with a potential to improve. That's why I started searching for information on ubuntu marketing and I hope I'm at the right place. To be honest, I'm kind of astonished that there is not more information about ubuntu or canonical's marketing strategy. I guess that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam should be the central place for information on that subject. Right? But already here it starts: Goal no 1: Increase market share. ... ... And then, some lines further down: Our target market is the existing Ubuntu Community, and LoCo's and Ubuntu-Team's to start with. This looks somehow strange to me. I want to say: how will it be possible to increase market share if the target market consist of those who already use Ubuntu? I don't want to devaluate your work, but is there any more precise marketing strategy than what is written on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam Thanks in advance for any complementary information Simon (interested in helping out) -- --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
