Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
-inline: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: Great work!! Thanks. I may try it myself-- if it doesn't look too tough after I review your posts. Easy as pie. And by the way: Does everything work? Sound, cursor movement and control, are all the basic as well as ancillary features of the computer working? Is the system stable? Is it buggy? Please let me know. everything works. system has no bugs. even more stable than 9.04. dual-booting into mac osx 10.8.x and ubuntu 12.04. the mac partition also mounts in read-only when i want it to. all sensors work. all systems go. so just install it. regards n Once again: great work!! Regards, Swarup On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 04:21 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: Dear All, So finally, here are the steps I've taken to first get Ubuntu 12.04 working in LiveCD-mode on my Apple MacBook Pro 5,1 and then the further steps taken to dual-boot with Mac OSX and ubuntu 12.04 in native modes. Am typing this from Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12233119#post12233119 the steps are in posts 1, 8, and 14 of the thread. regards niyam On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Have taken the discussion, with my fierce determination and my battle-to-death-to-install-ubuntu here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12225981 Regards niyam Gnu/Gladiator -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
-in-line On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Swarup, Niyam Have been following you trials and tribulations so far and am happy that something has worked Am sure you have been asked this before. But am asking anyway - Why are you installing Ubuntu on a Mac ? Am assuming you'll bought the very expensive machine for reasons other then the hardware ! i work a great deal with sound and video. so far (in the last 14 years of using linux and foss) sound and video codecs and professional-grade apps are still buggy and a huge problem with linux and its distros. they don't cut it. plus, most of the PC off-the-shelf hardware available is crap, as in, suffers from electrical noise, or poor workmanship, or other bugs. in contrast, apple's hardware is geared for audio and video. with no noise or signal problems. no interferences. in fact, apple's hardware is a marvel of engineering. their OS is impressive in what it can do for audio and video. their integration with their apps, even home stuff such as garageband and iMove and iDVD, is legendary. so after struggling for a decade to get the same level of execution with non-apple hardware/software, i just gave up and moved *back* to apple, only for those. for all else, there is ubuntu. so to answer your question. i use ubuntu as my primary OS and for all my work. i even handle a lot of work through audacity, and various other linux-apps, but when i have specific features i want i boot into mac osx. so it's the other way around for me. And a question with a wink wink - are'nt you afraid that aple (no mistake here) will come after you for violating some small light grey font print on light grey paper on some thing saying you cannot install anyother os on your mac - and that all your base are belong to apple oh yeah? show me the fine print. apple has no problems with my installing ubuntu on my hardware. they would have a problem if i did a hackintosh, or installed macosx on a non-apple hardware. Am not going into the sam has sung debate as yet but if sam's song was on itunes he would not own it see - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2197248/Bruce-Willis-fights-leave-iPod-tunes-family-Actor-considering-legal-action-Apple-battle-owns-songs-downloaded-iTunes.html that, is an urban myth. a great publicity stunt. looking forward to what you think, specially some peaceful insights from Niyam :-) hehe. nothing peaceful here. just tech talk. regards niyam ram [snip] -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 14:05 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: I may try it myself-- if it doesn't look too tough after I review your posts. Easy as pie. And by the way: Does everything work? Sound, cursor movement and control, are all the basic as well as ancillary features of the computer working? Is the system stable? Is it buggy? Please let me know. everything works. system has no bugs. even more stable than 9.04. dual-booting into mac osx 10.8.x and ubuntu 12.04. the mac partition also mounts in read-only when i want it to. all sensors work. all systems go. so just install it. Wonderful! I'll definitely do it. Been waiting years. Now, did you stick with the new-style default desktop Ubuntu is providing, or did you revert it to the optional gnome desktop? I guess once you've got it installed, it would be easy to switch as desired? I'm just a bit hesitant about the new style without the drop-down menus of gnome. And I like having all the open applications on the bottom panel so I can easily see what is there and switch back and forth. (But if the new one really is better, then perhaps I'd just need to get used to it.) Thanks and regards, Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 14:14 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Swarup, Niyam Have been following you trials and tribulations so far and am happy that something has worked Am sure you have been asked this before. But am asking anyway - Why are you installing Ubuntu on a Mac ? Am assuming you'll bought the very expensive machine for reasons other then the hardware ! i work a great deal with sound and video. so far (in the last 14 years of using linux and foss) sound and video codecs and professional-grade apps are still buggy and a huge problem with linux and its distros. they don't cut it. plus, most of the PC off-the-shelf hardware available is crap, as in, suffers from electrical noise, or poor workmanship, or other bugs. in contrast, apple's hardware is geared for audio and video. with no noise or signal problems. no interferences. in fact, apple's hardware is a marvel of engineering. their OS is impressive in what it can do for audio and video. their integration with their apps, even home stuff such as garageband and iMove and iDVD, is legendary. so after struggling for a decade to get the same level of execution with non-apple hardware/software, i just gave up and moved *back* to apple, only for those. for all else, there is ubuntu. so to answer your question. i use ubuntu as my primary OS and for all my work. i even handle a lot of work through audacity, and various other linux-apps, but when i have specific features i want i boot into mac osx. so it's the other way around for me. Sorry-- I didn't see this question when it was originally sent. When I got the apple, it was actually purely for the hardware. I had no issues at all with the Ubuntu software for any of my needs. But I do a massive amount of typing in Hindi, and I needed two features: (1) a keyboard that would not destroy my fingers. That is, keys should be ergonimically placed and easy to press. (2) Computer should be silent. I didn't want to spend all day listening to loud fans or other mechanisms. After testing many computers, the apple MBP was the only one that fit. The keyboard is perfect, and especially with a flashdrive for the hard drive, it is silent. The HD is obviously silent, and with the MBP if it is not working hard, the computer is totally silent. You can't even tell it is on. So it was perfect for me-- and it still is, after all these years. Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
Great work!! I may try it myself-- if it doesn't look too tough after I review your posts. And by the way: Does everything work? Sound, cursor movement and control, are all the basic as well as ancillary features of the computer working? Is the system stable? Is it buggy? Please let me know. Once again: great work!! Regards, Swarup On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 04:21 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: Dear All, So finally, here are the steps I've taken to first get Ubuntu 12.04 working in LiveCD-mode on my Apple MacBook Pro 5,1 and then the further steps taken to dual-boot with Mac OSX and ubuntu 12.04 in native modes. Am typing this from Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12233119#post12233119 the steps are in posts 1, 8, and 14 of the thread. regards niyam On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Have taken the discussion, with my fierce determination and my battle-to-death-to-install-ubuntu here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12225981 Regards niyam Gnu/Gladiator -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
Hi Swarup, Niyam Have been following you trials and tribulations so far and am happy that something has worked Am sure you have been asked this before. But am asking anyway - Why are you installing Ubuntu on a Mac ? Am assuming you'll bought the very expensive machine for reasons other then the hardware ! And a question with a wink wink - are'nt you afraid that aple (no mistake here) will come after you for violating some small light grey font print on light grey paper on some thing saying you cannot install anyother os on your mac - and that all your base are belong to apple Am not going into the sam has sung debate as yet but if sam's song was on itunes he would not own it see - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2197248/Bruce-Willis-fights-leave-iPod-tunes-family-Actor-considering-legal-action-Apple-battle-owns-songs-downloaded-iTunes.html looking forward to what you think, specially some peaceful insights from Niyam :-) ram On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: Great work!! I may try it myself-- if it doesn't look too tough after I review your posts. And by the way: Does everything work? Sound, cursor movement and control, are all the basic as well as ancillary features of the computer working? Is the system stable? Is it buggy? Please let me know. Once again: great work!! Regards, Swarup On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 04:21 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: Dear All, So finally, here are the steps I've taken to first get Ubuntu 12.04 working in LiveCD-mode on my Apple MacBook Pro 5,1 and then the further steps taken to dual-boot with Mac OSX and ubuntu 12.04 in native modes. Am typing this from Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12233119#post12233119 the steps are in posts 1, 8, and 14 of the thread. regards niyam On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Have taken the discussion, with my fierce determination and my battle-to-death-to-install-ubuntu here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12225981 Regards niyam Gnu/Gladiator -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Ram _http://www.munsiari.com Amazing Indians: Transforming lives in the hillshttp://www.timesnow.tv/Amazing-Indians-Transforming-lives-in-the-hills/videoshow/4383022.cms -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
Dear all, Have taken the discussion, with my fierce determination and my battle-to-death-to-install-ubuntu here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12225981 Regards niyam Gnu/Gladiator -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 18:05 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 13:07 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: I'm still struggling to install Ubuntu 12.04, which is supposed to be supported for 5 years. I have a MBP 5,2, and am hesitating to even attempt the 12.04 installation for the same reason. But I have recently gotten a new imac for our home office, and installed Parallels on it. You may already be familiar with Parallels-- it is probably the most widely used software these days for running operating systems virtually in OSX. I am using both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 virtually on OSX, via Parallels. [snip] i am aware of parallels and other virtualization technologies. i need low-latency, native install, dual-boot. should have mentioned that. I am currently using that very setup on my MBP 5,2 (dual boot, OSX Ubuntu). I use Ubuntu 9.04 and it works great! When something works great, then what is the need to change. If you are having trouble installing 12.04, then just install an old version of Ubuntu. Mine is 9.04; it is Ubuntu and it works fantastic. You could put a slightly newer version if you wish; after all, they are all Ubuntu and they all offer the same essential features. Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
I'm still struggling to install Ubuntu 12.04, which is supposed to be supported for 5 years. in brief: machine: my macbook pro 5,1 which i've recently upgraded to mac osx Mountain Lion, after upgrading the internal HDD. the optical disc is damaged or for whatever random reason, consistently spits out failed discs while reading or writing. so am not replacing that. hence i've taken the route of trying to install 12.04 using a usb-stick and/or from a separate partition on my hdd. for this, i spent about 7 days researching into all issues. the two best methods are mentioned here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1329407 and http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/ubuntu-on-macbook-air.htm note: none of these are specific to my MacBook Pro 5,1 but the concepts are applicable. my status: 1. used gparted to add dos partition tables to a usb-stick. 2. used Unetbootin to install the mac-alternative.iso of 12.04 to the usb-stick. 3. created several partitions on my mac hdd, and in the fourth partition, used the powerful 'dd' command to install the image on the usb-stick to the internal hdd. at this stage, the first problem occured, my terminal just hung, though the image was copied. 4. restarted and synced rEFIT. 4.clicking on the 'tux' option in rEFIT i got the unetbootin option, but instead of booting a live version it just went into installing. so i did. several errors of installing software, and of failure to install grub, occured. 5. on the restart, the tux logo shows up next to the mac os logo. clicking on it just leads to a black screen. 6. holding down the option key, and rebooting, i get the boot from 'windows legacy' option. clicking on that i seem to get into loading, but the 'missing operating system' error pops up. for sure, apple has made it extremely tough and challenging to install linux on their laptops. i've never experienced so much suffering in trying to install linux in the 14 years i've used it. the documentation on the ubuntu site also has nothing on how to install on the macbookpro 5,1 without an optical disc. frustrated. regards niyam On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Ninad Pundalik ninadsp16...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, hit the send button too soon. :s Does this help you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryMac thanks Ninad, had already seen that. it does not mention macbookpro 5,1 for 12.04. n Ninad -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- niyam bhushan -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 13:07 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: I'm still struggling to install Ubuntu 12.04, which is supposed to be supported for 5 years. I have a MBP 5,2, and am hesitating to even attempt the 12.04 installation for the same reason. But I have recently gotten a new imac for our home office, and installed Parallels on it. You may already be familiar with Parallels-- it is probably the most widely used software these days for running operating systems virtually in OSX. I am using both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 virtually on OSX, via Parallels. It works great, and offers tremendous advantages. Just imagine: all the benefits of three OS's (OSX, Win 7, Ubuntu 12.04) at the same time with no rebooting! (I should emphasize here that I am a long-time Ubuntu user, and of the three OS's, for many reasons prefer Ubuntu. But there are still today some tasks that are best addressed in Win, for example relational databases in MS Access-- still no comparison anywhere else. I am waiting and very much looking forward to the day when good relational DB software is available in Ubuntu :-) ) So this is just one option for you. If you install Parallels on OSX, then 12.04 will install in Parallels without any issue at all. You'll have your 12.04 installed and running in 20 minutes. Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
Parallels is virtual box? where it is available for download. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 13:07 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: I'm still struggling to install Ubuntu 12.04, which is supposed to be supported for 5 years. I have a MBP 5,2, and am hesitating to even attempt the 12.04 installation for the same reason. But I have recently gotten a new imac for our home office, and installed Parallels on it. You may already be familiar with Parallels-- it is probably the most widely used software these days for running operating systems virtually in OSX. I am using both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 virtually on OSX, via Parallels. It works great, and offers tremendous advantages. Just imagine: all the benefits of three OS's (OSX, Win 7, Ubuntu 12.04) at the same time with no rebooting! (I should emphasize here that I am a long-time Ubuntu user, and of the three OS's, for many reasons prefer Ubuntu. But there are still today some tasks that are best addressed in Win, for example relational databases in MS Access-- still no comparison anywhere else. I am waiting and very much looking forward to the day when good relational DB software is available in Ubuntu :-) ) So this is just one option for you. If you install Parallels on OSX, then 12.04 will install in Parallels without any issue at all. You'll have your 12.04 installed and running in 20 minutes. Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 16:50 +0530, Sriranga(78yrsold) wrote: Parallels is virtual box? where it is available for download. As far as I know, Parallels is only for use on Apple machines. So if you don't use Apple, this software is not for you. But if you wish to know more, just google Parallels. You'll get it right away. Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
Thanks for the kind clarification, Swarup. i am using Winxp and not Apple machines. In fact, I wanted to have hands on experience OS used on Apple machines by using on my Dell machine - but I dont know how to do With choicest blessings, -sriranga(79yrs) On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 16:50 +0530, Sriranga(78yrsold) wrote: Parallels is virtual box? where it is available for download. As far as I know, Parallels is only for use on Apple machines. So if you don't use Apple, this software is not for you. But if you wish to know more, just google Parallels. You'll get it right away. Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
I wouldn't be at all familiar with how to do that. But then, you've got Ubuntu :-) -- so I'd say no need for OSX. If you do ever want to try OSX though, probably the only really good way to do it is on an Apple machine. On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 17:11 +0530, Sriranga(78yrsold) wrote: Thanks for the kind clarification, Swarup. i am using Winxp and not Apple machines. In fact, I wanted to have hands on experience OS used on Apple machines by using on my Dell machine - but I dont know how to do With choicest blessings, -sriranga(79yrs) On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 16:50 +0530, Sriranga(78yrsold) wrote: Parallels is virtual box? where it is available for download. As far as I know, Parallels is only for use on Apple machines. So if you don't use Apple, this software is not for you. But if you wish to know more, just google Parallels. You'll get it right away. Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 13:07 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: I'm still struggling to install Ubuntu 12.04, which is supposed to be supported for 5 years. I have a MBP 5,2, and am hesitating to even attempt the 12.04 installation for the same reason. But I have recently gotten a new imac for our home office, and installed Parallels on it. You may already be familiar with Parallels-- it is probably the most widely used software these days for running operating systems virtually in OSX. I am using both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 virtually on OSX, via Parallels. [snip] i am aware of parallels and other virtualization technologies. i need low-latency, native install, dual-boot. should have mentioned that. regards n -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
How about buying a real computer instead of trying to run a state of the art OS on a shiny toy... Choice is yours always ;) -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
hey, i am newbie Will you please eloborate about parallels? I am confused whether it is OS of linux or brand of computer or Virtual box etc. since I have not heard about parallels. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Vivek Khurana hiddenharm...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: Hey, that is great news. My brother has been doing the same i.e. using Parallels-- and having some issues with slow-down of Ubuntu-- but I think that is because of the version of Thunderbird that is running in it. A lot of people are having problems with that version of TB. We're going to update TB to the latest version available through TB itself, and then I think Ubuntu will probably run fine just as you report. Swarup How about buying a real computer instead of trying to run a state of the art OS on a shiny toy... regards Vivek -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Vivek Khurana hiddenharm...@gmail.com wrote: How about buying a real computer instead of trying to run a state of the art OS on a shiny toy... While I continue to wait even after 7 years for the otherwise state-of-the-art OS to catch up, that shiny toy can run garageband and that to record without machine electrical interference, and can transcode video without drop frames and jarring, ugly artefacts. So think of it as a stop-gap arrangement, and here's hoping not for the rest of my life, as 7 years is already too much in a computing life. Before others helpfully pitch in. LMMS, audacity, ardour, ubuntustudio etc etc ain't garageband, much less Logic pro. And ffmpeg, gstreamer, and other valiant attempts aren't quite there either. Plus that hardware engineering that cuts out electrical noise, or even gives me zero sound for Mic recordings, that's priceless. No fiddling around to get things working. By the easy, have already installed Ubuntu 12.04 on the other laptop. It is the best Ubuntu I've used so far. Thanks Regards Niyam regards Vivek -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Vivek Khurana hiddenharm...@gmail.com wrote: How about buying a real computer instead of trying to run a state of the art OS on a shiny toy... While I continue to wait even after 7 years for the otherwise state-of-the-art OS to catch up, that shiny toy can run garageband and that to record without machine electrical interference, and can transcode video without drop frames and jarring, ugly artefacts. So think of it as a stop-gap arrangement, and here's hoping not for the rest of my life, as 7 years is already too much in a computing life. That is because what you are looking for is not a priority for any of the devs in Linux world. Given the closed spec, patent infiltrated field of media industry, unhelpful professional, Linux is never expected to catch up. It is a glass ceiling created by media industry to prevent the spread of free software... Before others helpfully pitch in. LMMS, audacity, ardour, ubuntustudio etc etc ain't garageband, much less Logic pro. And ffmpeg, gstreamer, and other valiant attempts aren't quite there either. The problem is people stand up and speak how crappy are open source alternatives, but no one is willing to write down what is not working. No professional will bother to file a bug report for the specific problems being faced with the software. Bug filing is and requirement specification, is the only price you have to pay for using free software. Go ahead and file 1 bugs and if those bugs dont get fixed over a period of time, then say things are not catching up... The developer never has full deep understanding of user actions. But when someone pays $$$ for buying a software, they will shout at the top of the pitch to get a feature added or bug fixed. But when it is free software, the same person will use the software once and then rant for rest of his life... For those who have specific cases of things not working, do you have a publicly available list of things which are missing ? Plus that hardware engineering that cuts out electrical noise, or even gives me zero sound for Mic recordings, that's priceless. No fiddling around to get things working. If you want to use a shiny toy, use the OS that comes with it... :) By the easy, have already installed Ubuntu 12.04 on the other laptop. It is the best Ubuntu I've used so far. Some good news at the end... regards Vivek -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On 17 June 2012 02:15, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: want to install it on my macbook pro 5,1 (2008/2009) model. alas! the ubuntu documentation has no specific install-documentation and what works/does not work, on this model. Does this help you Ninad S. Pundalik GPG Key Fingerprint: 2DF7 B856 C75E C9F9 0504 C0EF D456 1946 7C45 2C69 -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
Sorry, hit the send button too soon. :s Does this help you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryMac Ninad -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
anyways, i've decided to wait till mac osx lion is released. then will buy a new HD, and dual-boot with the two. n On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Vellala Hari Hara Prasad vhp...@gmail.com wrote: Oh! dears, I have not read the mail fullly. It was on my laptop acer-aspire, with windows xp. not the other os On 17 June 2012 22:55, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: That is bad news. If it is really unstable, a better alternative may be installing it as a virtual OS on top of OSX. -Original Message- From: Vellala Hari Hara Prasad Sent: Jun 17, 2012 1:08 PM To: Ubuntu India Local Community Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1 lots of crashes. daily crashes n crashes On 17 June 2012 06:01, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: Hi there niyam, I've got a MBP 5,2 (2009 model)-- i.e. quite similar to yours. Several years ago set up a dual boot with OSX/Ubuntu 9.04. Still running strong! For that reason I have avoided trying to install a new one. But 12.04 is an LTS version, and I have a lot of interest in trying it out. If you install it--or find out any more information about using it on MBP 5,1 or 5,2 please report back here. Regards Swarup On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 02:15 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, waited awhile to see the overall response on ubuntu 12.04, and unlike its recent predecessors this one looks good. want to install it on my macbook pro 5,1 (2008/2009) model. alas! the ubuntu documentation has no specific install-documentation and what works/does not work, on this model. anyone here with some experience? please share. thanks regards n -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- V. Hari Hara Prasad (prasad.v) -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- V. Hari Hara Prasad (prasad.v) -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
I use Parallels and ubuntu works brilliant mac + parallels. -Original Message- From: Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com Sender: ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:25:01 -0400 (GMT-04:00) To: Ubuntu India Local Communityubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com, Ubuntu India Local Community ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1 -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 02:44 +, Sreekandh Balakrishnan wrote: I use Parallels and ubuntu works brilliant mac + parallels. -Original Message- From: Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com Sender: ubuntu-in-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:25:01 -0400 (GMT-04:00) To: Ubuntu India Local Communityubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com, Ubuntu India Local Community ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1 Hey, that is great news. My brother has been doing the same i.e. using Parallels-- and having some issues with slow-down of Ubuntu-- but I think that is because of the version of Thunderbird that is running in it. A lot of people are having problems with that version of TB. We're going to update TB to the latest version available through TB itself, and then I think Ubuntu will probably run fine just as you report. Swarup -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: Hey, that is great news. My brother has been doing the same i.e. using Parallels-- and having some issues with slow-down of Ubuntu-- but I think that is because of the version of Thunderbird that is running in it. A lot of people are having problems with that version of TB. We're going to update TB to the latest version available through TB itself, and then I think Ubuntu will probably run fine just as you report. Swarup How about buying a real computer instead of trying to run a state of the art OS on a shiny toy... regards Vivek -- The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
lots of crashes. daily crashes n crashes On 17 June 2012 06:01, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: Hi there niyam, I've got a MBP 5,2 (2009 model)-- i.e. quite similar to yours. Several years ago set up a dual boot with OSX/Ubuntu 9.04. Still running strong! For that reason I have avoided trying to install a new one. But 12.04 is an LTS version, and I have a lot of interest in trying it out. If you install it--or find out any more information about using it on MBP 5,1 or 5,2 please report back here. Regards Swarup On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 02:15 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, waited awhile to see the overall response on ubuntu 12.04, and unlike its recent predecessors this one looks good. want to install it on my macbook pro 5,1 (2008/2009) model. alas! the ubuntu documentation has no specific install-documentation and what works/does not work, on this model. anyone here with some experience? please share. thanks regards n -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- V. Hari Hara Prasad (prasad.v) -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
That is bad news. If it is really unstable, a better alternative may be installing it as a virtual OS on top of OSX. -Original Message- From: Vellala Hari Hara Prasad <vhp...@gmail.com>Sent: Jun 17, 2012 1:08 PM To: Ubuntu India Local Community <UBUNTU-IN@LISTS.UBUNTU.COM>Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1 lots of crashes. daily crashes n crashes On 17 June 2012 06:01, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: Hi there niyam,I've got a MBP 5,2 (2009 model)-- i.e. quite similar to yours. Severalyears ago set up a dual boot with OSX/Ubuntu 9.04. Still running strong!For that reason I have avoided trying to install a new one. But 12.04 isan LTS version, and I have a lot of interest in trying it out. If youinstall it--or find out any more information about using it on MBP 5,1or 5,2 please report back here.RegardsSwarup On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 02:15 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, waited awhile to see the overall response on ubuntu 12.04, and unlike its recent predecessors this one looks good. want to install it on my macbook pro 5,1 (2008/2009) model. alas! the ubuntu documentation has no specific install-documentation and what works/does not work, on this model. anyone here with some experience? please share. thanks regards n -- niyam bhushan--ubuntu-in mailing listubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in-- V. Hari Hara Prasad(prasad.v) -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
Oh! dears, I have not read the mail fullly. It was on my laptop acer-aspire, with windows xp. not the other os On 17 June 2012 22:55, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: That is bad news. If it is really unstable, a better alternative may be installing it as a virtual OS on top of OSX. -Original Message- From: Vellala Hari Hara Prasad ** Sent: Jun 17, 2012 1:08 PM To: Ubuntu India Local Community ** Subject: Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1 lots of crashes. daily crashes n crashes On 17 June 2012 06:01, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote: Hi there niyam, I've got a MBP 5,2 (2009 model)-- i.e. quite similar to yours. Several years ago set up a dual boot with OSX/Ubuntu 9.04. Still running strong! For that reason I have avoided trying to install a new one. But 12.04 is an LTS version, and I have a lot of interest in trying it out. If you install it--or find out any more information about using it on MBP 5,1 or 5,2 please report back here. Regards Swarup On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 02:15 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, waited awhile to see the overall response on ubuntu 12.04, and unlike its recent predecessors this one looks good. want to install it on my macbook pro 5,1 (2008/2009) model. alas! the ubuntu documentation has no specific install-documentation and what works/does not work, on this model. anyone here with some experience? please share. thanks regards n -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- V. Hari Hara Prasad (prasad.v) -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- V. Hari Hara Prasad (prasad.v) -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Pro 5,1
Hi there niyam, I've got a MBP 5,2 (2009 model)-- i.e. quite similar to yours. Several years ago set up a dual boot with OSX/Ubuntu 9.04. Still running strong! For that reason I have avoided trying to install a new one. But 12.04 is an LTS version, and I have a lot of interest in trying it out. If you install it--or find out any more information about using it on MBP 5,1 or 5,2 please report back here. Regards Swarup On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 02:15 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, waited awhile to see the overall response on ubuntu 12.04, and unlike its recent predecessors this one looks good. want to install it on my macbook pro 5,1 (2008/2009) model. alas! the ubuntu documentation has no specific install-documentation and what works/does not work, on this model. anyone here with some experience? please share. thanks regards n -- niyam bhushan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
