Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[James Tait]

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Paolo Sammicheli wrote:
> Or else. What about making both meeeting: one session in IRC and the week 
> following UDS track with remote partecipation? In both session we will not 
> vote or decide leaders, just focus on what to do. :)

Now that's sounding like a plan.  Unfortunately I won't be at UDS, but I
should be able to get on IRC for about an hour at that time.  What I
have to contribute, I don't know.  I have no track record to speak of.
But let's see what comes out of the discussions and maybe we'll all have
a trick up our sleeves.

JT
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Spread Ubuntu

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Matthew East wrote:
> 2009/11/4 Martin Owens :
>> So far I see it as our best focus point for the Ubuntu Marketing group.
> 
> +1
> 
> All nice ideas for features.
> 
+1 from me too.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Community Marketing at UDS (Was Reviving the Marketing Team...)

[John Vilsack]

I guess I'm not sure what I said no to, exactly?

I said "I think we should still do the meeting on the 11th/12th" and
then "I agree we should do all the UDS stuff because its important
too".

So let me be clear:

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 to doing stuff at UDS
+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 to meeting after UDS
+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 to meeting on the 11th/12th because nobody is going to
miss anything

Better?  I can't say how little I want to be or to see anyone else as
a "leader" in this group.  If you want to meet or do something, that's
entirely your choice.  The community will decide whether or not to
follow any initiative. But in regards to your idea, I think its a
great one and would gladly help to promote it!







2009/11/4 Rubén Romero y Cordero :
> I think that John propossed that we can arrange a meeting the 12th, be
> part of the UDS meeting AND have a meeting after the UDS meeting.
>
> If not I think it is a good idea to do all those 3 meetings and get
> this team rolling.
>
> I vote for all the proposal combined :-)
>
> R.
> https://launchpad.net/~huayra
>
> 2009/11/4, Paolo Sammicheli :
>> Alle 17:46 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
>>> I definitely think another meeting after the UDS is needed for sure.
>>> Like Fred mentioned, keeping it simple is the most important thing to
>>> do, and we need to move in small steps in order to accomplish the
>>> bigger goal.
>>>
>>> When you all get back from UDS, we should definitely have a "hardcore"
>>> meeting about what you all discovered, and how we can convert some of
>>> that into projects?  It might be a perfect time to develop some ideas
>>> that allow us to build call to actions for the volunteers to help out
>>> with.
>>
>> I get this answer like a -1 to my proposal to organize a track during UDS
>> for
>> community Marketing. Ehm, wait. If this should be a -1 you would implicity
>> say
>> "I don't agree but I'm available to listen other's opinion". This is not a
>> -1,
>> this is a polite "No". And you still haven't explained why you don't agree
>> my
>> proposal. In each your answer explainations are proficiently avoid.
>>
>> Since you're not our leader you cannot just say *No* to the proposal of a
>> Member.
>>
>> I call a vote on this topic: Can I organize a track during UDS about
>> Community
>> Marketing? Who would remotely partecipate and who will not?
>>
>> Please vote my proposal answering to this thread.
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Community Marketing at UDS (Was Reviving the Marketing Team...)

[Rubén Romero y Cordero]

I think that John propossed that we can arrange a meeting the 12th, be
part of the UDS meeting AND have a meeting after the UDS meeting.

If not I think it is a good idea to do all those 3 meetings and get
this team rolling.

I vote for all the proposal combined :-)

R.
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2009/11/4, Paolo Sammicheli :
> Alle 17:46 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
>> I definitely think another meeting after the UDS is needed for sure.
>> Like Fred mentioned, keeping it simple is the most important thing to
>> do, and we need to move in small steps in order to accomplish the
>> bigger goal.
>>
>> When you all get back from UDS, we should definitely have a "hardcore"
>> meeting about what you all discovered, and how we can convert some of
>> that into projects?  It might be a perfect time to develop some ideas
>> that allow us to build call to actions for the volunteers to help out
>> with.
>
> I get this answer like a -1 to my proposal to organize a track during UDS
> for
> community Marketing. Ehm, wait. If this should be a -1 you would implicity
> say
> "I don't agree but I'm available to listen other's opinion". This is not a
> -1,
> this is a polite "No". And you still haven't explained why you don't agree
> my
> proposal. In each your answer explainations are proficiently avoid.
>
> Since you're not our leader you cannot just say *No* to the proposal of a
> Member.
>
> I call a vote on this topic: Can I organize a track during UDS about
> Community
> Marketing? Who would remotely partecipate and who will not?
>
> Please vote my proposal answering to this thread.
>
> Ciao
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[ubuntu-marketing] Community Marketing at UDS (Was Reviving the Marketing Team...)

[Paolo Sammicheli]

Alle 17:46 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
> I definitely think another meeting after the UDS is needed for sure.
> Like Fred mentioned, keeping it simple is the most important thing to
> do, and we need to move in small steps in order to accomplish the
> bigger goal.
> 
> When you all get back from UDS, we should definitely have a "hardcore"
> meeting about what you all discovered, and how we can convert some of
> that into projects?  It might be a perfect time to develop some ideas
> that allow us to build call to actions for the volunteers to help out
> with.

I get this answer like a -1 to my proposal to organize a track during UDS for 
community Marketing. Ehm, wait. If this should be a -1 you would implicity say 
"I don't agree but I'm available to listen other's opinion". This is not a -1, 
this is a polite "No". And you still haven't explained why you don't agree my 
proposal. In each your answer explainations are proficiently avoid. 

Since you're not our leader you cannot just say *No* to the proposal of a 
Member. 

I call a vote on this topic: Can I organize a track during UDS about Community 
Marketing? Who would remotely partecipate and who will not?

Please vote my proposal answering to this thread.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] ubuntu-marketing Digest, Vol 47, Issue 9

[Mouahed Nahali]

Hello,
One of our Tunisian LoCo is now in Canada to continue his studies. He was an
active member in our LoCo and now he want to do the same in Canada. He's
looking for help and support. Here is his mail :

Hello Canadian Ubuntero,
My name is Mouahed and I am a student who is a member of Ubuntu Tunisian
LoCo and a representative of my Mozilla Firefox College CCNB. I participated
in several Ubuntu conferences in universities or colleges, I am a member in
two other Mozilla campus reps for the Advancement of Mozilla Firefox and a
Tunisian association for the promotion of free software. I'm here in Moncton
for almost a month exactly to the city of Dieppe, I study Marketing but my
real passion is the 'computer and it has long been a dream that I make an
event at the college where I am studying at CCNB has devoted Mozilla Firefox
and Ubuntu first, I started contacting the head of my department but one day
my teacher is a passionate computer asked me to help replace Windowss xp or
vista because it has made a puddle of days not free it from what I'm talking
all the time in general especially of Linux with my friends who are studying
in multimedia or web. I would like to have your help and support all members
of Ubuntu here in Canada are welcome, the problem is that the department
head asked me three questions which I could not answer now because there are
many things to do before it is mainly to have contact with the Ubuntu
community here, in all cases the head of department is delighted by the idea
if he told me he has a contract with Microsoft and its products, but I want
it to target all the world teachers and students there are many preparations
to do before that's why I need your help any help is welcome and thank you
in advance for replying will be celebrated the next version of the Ubuntu
9.10 as it should.
Best regards
Mouahed
PS: For more information you can add me on facebook: mouahed elnahali;
Skype: mouahed.nahali; gmail: mouahed.elnahali
my cell phone number, 506 961 2135; my Blog dedicated to Ubuntu;
http://mouhabuntu.blogspot.com

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[ubuntu-marketing] I found a great link for advocating ubuntu...

[Yosef Karo]

Hi,

I found a great link for advocating ubuntu especially to IT professionals:

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/03/french-police-saves-millions-of-euros-by-adopting-ubuntu.ars

I hope that this link will be of use to you.


-Yos
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Simplifying Why We Join

[John Vilsack]

I received three personal emails about chooseubuntu.com.  Its not a
real website, but I just thought maybe something like that would be a
good tool for IT folks to show businesses about the benefits of
Ubuntu.

Just to be clear :)

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Simplifying Why We Join

[John Vilsack]

Ruben you are thinking exactly the same thing as I am.

It would be great to provide simple distribution kits for people to
get started.  I also thought it would be great to have a "meeting
points" for Meetups to have monthly, so people have something to talk
about.  Sort of a flyer that each host gets that says:

   Information and a printable flyer about one or two features that
month in Ubuntu the meetings focus on.
Focus on an article from the Ubuntu Magazine and discuss it
Talk about the next version and emphasize the focus of that
release so people can talk about it.

We did this sort of thing in the Howard Dean campaign (2004 for US
President) by organizing meetings throughout the country at coffee
shops, restaurants, and other public places to just get out there and
start talking.  You would have been shocked how many people just come
closer to hear what others were talking about.

I really like the idea of building easy to get to packets that people
could simply click and have access to.  Kind of like First Aid kits
for your computer :)




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2009/11/4 Rubén Romero y Cordero :
> Hei to you all!
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, John Vilsack  wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>> Are there any other areas anyone can think of that should have that
>> "top-level" sort of focus that newcomers should see when they first
>> come to join our team?
>>
>
> Simplicity is what we need. Empowering excited users of ubuntu as fast as we
> possibly can is the goal. A quick win is what engages people and keeps them
> contributing!
>
> I have written some ideas on how some of the things you are propossing can
> be achieved here:
>
> *
> 
>
> Me and others have written *a lot more* (see the links below). But first you
> need to understand this: Spread Ubuntu is about two things:
>
>  * The LoCo/user site that can give you a Marketing kit in your face right
> NOW! and that's supposed to be the ultimate resource for LoCo teams, ubuntu
> marketeers and newcomers alike (Yet to be implemented as such, but the
> underlying technology is there, part of it is up laready and lots of
> materials are available as of today)
>  * The Do-It-Yourself part of the site that makes it easy for people to
> share/get/translate material for local use (which is nearly done and what
> has been our focus this far)
>
> And yes, we need more thinking put into this. But, as mentioned above, we
> have already put a lot of thought into this. Those interested can read the
> following links:
>
> Project status since the summer of 2008 until now and meeting logs:
>  * 
>
> Definition of the Site part:
>  * 
>
> Definition of the DIY part:
>  * 
>
> Lots more in our Idea pool (sort of where we start our blueprints):
> * 
>
>
> I am copying this to the Spread Ubuntu list and Evan Boldt (echowarp), who
> is actually the man behind this awesomeness, the technical lead of the
> project (I am really just the guy marketing SU and acting as Project
> Manager/Driver/Beta tester/bug triager once in a while).
>
> This is getting really exciting :-)
>
> R.
> https://launchpad.net/~huayra
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Simplifying Why We Join

[Rubén Romero y Cordero]

Hei to you all!

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, John Vilsack  wrote:

> [...]
> Are there any other areas anyone can think of that should have that
> "top-level" sort of focus that newcomers should see when they first
> come to join our team?
>
>
Simplicity is what we need. Empowering excited users of ubuntu as fast as we
possibly can is the goal. A quick win is what engages people and keeps them
contributing!

I have written some ideas on how some of the things you are propossing can
be achieved here:

* <
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/SpreadUbuntu/IdeaPool#Making%20SpreadUbuntu%20more%20accesible%20in%20the%20FrontPage
>

Me and others have written *a lot more* (see the links below). But first you
need to understand this: Spread Ubuntu is about two things:

 * The LoCo/user site that can give you a Marketing kit in your face right
NOW! and that's supposed to be the ultimate resource for LoCo teams, ubuntu
marketeers and newcomers alike (Yet to be implemented as such, but the
underlying technology is there, part of it is up laready and lots of
materials are available as of today)
 * The Do-It-Yourself part of the site that makes it easy for people to
share/get/translate material for local use (which is nearly done and what
has been our focus this far)

And yes, we need more thinking put into this. But, as mentioned above, we
have already put a lot of thought into this. Those interested can read the
following links:

Project status since the summer of 2008 until now and meeting logs:
 * 

Definition of the Site part:
 * 

Definition of the DIY part:
 * 

Lots more in our Idea pool (sort of where we start our blueprints):
* 


I am copying this to the Spread Ubuntu list and Evan Boldt (echowarp), who
is actually the man behind this awesomeness, the technical lead of the
project (I am really just the guy marketing SU and acting as Project
Manager/Driver/Beta tester/bug triager once in a while).

This is getting really exciting :-)

R.
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[John Vilsack]

I definitely think another meeting after the UDS is needed for sure.
Like Fred mentioned, keeping it simple is the most important thing to
do, and we need to move in small steps in order to accomplish the
bigger goal.

When you all get back from UDS, we should definitely have a "hardcore"
meeting about what you all discovered, and how we can convert some of
that into projects?  It might be a perfect time to develop some ideas
that allow us to build call to actions for the volunteers to help out
with.




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2009/11/4 Rubén Romero y Cordero :
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Paolo Sammicheli  wrote:
>>
>> Alle 16:52 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
>> [...]
>> Or else. What about making both meeeting: one session in IRC and the week
>> following UDS track with remote partecipation? In both session we will not
>> vote or decide leaders, just focus on what to do. :)
>> [...]
>
> +1
>
> Two meetings can really help us out.
>
>
>>
>> Paolo Sammicheli
>> EMail: xdatap1(at)ubuntu.com
>> https://launchpad.net/~xdatap1
>> - Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
>>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[Rubén Romero y Cordero]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Paolo Sammicheli  wrote:

> Alle 16:52 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
> [...]
>
> Or else. What about making both meeeting: one session in IRC and the week
> following UDS track with remote partecipation? In both session we will not
> vote or decide leaders, just focus on what to do. :)
> [...]
>
> +1

Two meetings can really help us out.



> Paolo Sammicheli
> EMail: xdatap1(at)ubuntu.com
> https://launchpad.net/~xdatap1 
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>
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[Paolo Sammicheli]

Alle 16:52 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
> Forgive me if I wasn't clear in the meeting message:  The meeting
> itself is really not a big deal.

Ok, now understand. 

But, please, now listen to me: The week next the day you proposed, I mean from 
Monday 16th November until Friday 20th November, there will be Ubuntu 
Developer Summit in Dallas, Texas. If you're not aware of this event go take a 
look on the wiki page (1).

Don't be confused by the name "Developer Summit" it's not only about 
Development, it has also a "Community Track" leaded by Jono Bacon where people 
from all LoCos discuss about Community topic: partecipation, translation, 
events and so on.

I think that reserving a session of an hour where discuss about Community 
Marketing it's a grat chance to move things forward.

Few people from this list will be present in person: Me, Alan Pope, Martin 
Owens and maybe somebody else.

But there will be people, probably not in this list, leading their LoCo Team 
that can help very much. Take a look here (2).

Each Session in UDS can be followed by IRC and streamed by audio. We take 
notes of each session with Gobby. It's a great opportunity to move things 
faster! :)

> We do ourselves a disservice if we count out any person in the
> process.  Its all about including as many people as we can.

I agree perfectly with you. :)

> If people can't make the meeting, it will be absolutely fine.  I just
> want to make sure we are doing the right things to get better
> organized, and a deadline like the meeting date is a good way to keep
> us focused.

Or else. What about making both meeeting: one session in IRC and the week 
following UDS track with remote partecipation? In both session we will not 
vote or decide leaders, just focus on what to do. :)
 
(1) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-L
(2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-L/Attendees

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[Fred Roller]

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/11/4 Paolo Sammicheli :
>   
>> Alle 16:19 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
>> 
>>> I'm here.  I'm offering to help.  That's all that matters.
>>>   
>> Me too. I'm here offering to help.
>>
>> Now explain me why we can't find a Day good for both for this IRC Meeting.
>>
>> 
>
> I guess John just wanted to get things moving by nominating a date.
> I'd be happy for it to move to UDS week to as I'll also be there, but
> I am equally happy to fit around those who have done more in Ubuntu
> Marketing, and have more experience than I.
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>   
John, thanks for taking the initiative.  Lot of fire here.  My .02 is 
that it sounds like a lot is trying to be accomplished in one shot; 
could be wrong.  As some one who has several years with the military 
KISS (Keep It Simple and Stupid) always worked best for getting from 
point a to b.

May I suggest the the 12 Nov date stand as is for a simple primer.  
Objective would be to focus the group and leave with the following 
accomplished:

Purpose
Direction
Motivation
Assets (that we have here today)

Who fills what role will come through as the need arises.  John, you are 
doing well to lead this charge and I have no probs with this 
continuing.  Ruben seems to have volunteered the technical aspect via 
Spread Ubuntu (Nice site).

12 Nov. with a simple agenda is a good start.  If another, more in depth 
meeting needs to be scheduled for UDS(?) which I have no idea (sorry for 
my ignorance), is necessary then so be it.  A regular meeting schedule 
too will settle into place.  Until then as many meetings at what ever 
time is necessary.  All I ask is advance notice.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[John Vilsack]

Forgive me if I wasn't clear in the meeting message:  The meeting
itself is really not a big deal.

If you look at the agenda, the agenda is really vague for a reason:
We can never pick one time for everyone to make it, so its almost
pointless to have one.

I wanted to set the date because its a time and a date people can look
forward to.  Something to give them hope that things are getting done.

The meeting will be just like the emails:  A place people can come and
voice their opinions or volunteer to do things.  Some people just work
better in a real-time environment.

I would never ask that people MUST be in one place at one time on the
Internet.  Its simply impossible and impolite.

What I'd like to see is exactly what is already happening:  People
talking about making things easier. People getting involved in
SpreadUbuntu publicly and talking about how we can make things easier
and more simple.

I'll be there to moderate, but I can promise you that because I don't
think that there should be a "vote" about leadership or appointing
leaders, any discussions about our next steps will come back to the
mailing list.

We do ourselves a disservice if we count out any person in the
process.  Its all about including as many people as we can.

If people can't make the meeting, it will be absolutely fine.  I just
want to make sure we are doing the right things to get better
organized, and a deadline like the meeting date is a good way to keep
us focused.

Please let me know if anything I say is confusing.  I know I am
speaking with people who do not use English as their first language,
and in order to make myself clear sometimes I type too much :)

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[ubuntu-marketing] Simplifying Why We Join

[John Vilsack]

The first step to making Ubuntu Marketing more accessible is to
determine WHY people are interested in Ubuntu Marketing in the first
place. From that point, we can begin creating a more simple structure
to getting people who want to help into the appropriate place faster.

If people come to Ubuntu Marketing, they generally want to do one of a
few things:

1. Help develop marketing materials and promotions.
2. Join or create local Ubuntu communities and groups in their area
3. Get the word out about Ubuntu to their friends, family, and anyone
that will listen.

Am I missing any points here?

While each point is a discussion unto itself, the more simple we make
these "top level" points, the easier it is for new people to get to
what they want.

Point one, developing materials, is the project side of what we do.
The biggest hurdle there is getting people introduced to projects and
getting them to feel like they can seek out a task they can begin
contributing to.  Many people have just a few minutes to a few hours a
week to contribute, and we don't want them to have to waste their time
finding something to do.

The second point, about Ubuntu Communities, is definitely something
the Marketing Team should point people to the LoCos for.  Personally,
I think we can do more as a team to help support this active part of
the community, and the SpreadUbuntu site is doing a fantastic job at
that!

The final point is more about promotion.  Some people get so fired up
about Ubuntu that they want to tell everyone, but they are unsure how.
 THey come to the Marketing Team because they want to market it on a
grassroots level.  They may not need to pour over all the other
materials we have all created, so instead maybe a simple bullet point
list of how to introduce someone that is new to Ubuntu is appropriate.

Instead of the walls of text we have all over the wiki, maybe boiling
it down to these points at the very top would help point people in the
right direction.  I just want to help simplify things.

Are there any other areas anyone can think of that should have that
"top-level" sort of focus that newcomers should see when they first
come to join our team?

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[Alan Pope]

2009/11/4 Paolo Sammicheli :
> Alle 16:19 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
>> I'm here.  I'm offering to help.  That's all that matters.
>
> Me too. I'm here offering to help.
>
> Now explain me why we can't find a Day good for both for this IRC Meeting.
>

I guess John just wanted to get things moving by nominating a date.
I'd be happy for it to move to UDS week to as I'll also be there, but
I am equally happy to fit around those who have done more in Ubuntu
Marketing, and have more experience than I.

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[Paolo Sammicheli]

Alle 16:19 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
> I'm here.  I'm offering to help.  That's all that matters.  

Me too. I'm here offering to help.

Now explain me why we can't find a Day good for both for this IRC Meeting.

Please, reconsider the idea to organize it during UDS so I can partecipate, 
and can also people involved in it. Jono Bacon called in his blog for 
blueprint registration today, we're still in time.

If I seems rude, forgive me. This is not my native language.

Ciao
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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[John Vilsack]

> What I didn't understood is who you are? While other poster in this thread are
> well know Ubuntu members with some kind of contribution this is not you.
> Please forgive me and present yourself. Your Launchpad profile lack of
> informations.

Since when does anyone need to prove themselves to you or anyone else
to try and help out?  I'm not interviewing to be your buddy, your
friend, your coworker, your boss, or anything of the sort.

Volunteering is about people who are willing to step up and make a
difference, and its this EXACT attitude that has caused me to try and
step in to help out.

The cult of elitism that exists in small pockets like this hurts
everyone.  New people feel like they have to climb a mountain just to
be able to sit at the cool kids table.

I'm here.  I'm offering to help.  That's all that matters.  I don't
need the flak, I don't need to feel like I have to justify myself to
you or anyone else.  I'm not asking to change the world, I just want
to see this place become more accessible to newcomers.

Don't worry, if you keep poking me hard enough, I'll leave like
everyone else has.

Unbelievable...

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Spread Ubuntu

[Rubén Romero y Cordero]

The projects has many ideas left to be implemented (see our Idea Pool
in the wiki) and we have all along had a LoCo based approach in
mind... It's just that things take time ;)

I want to kindly ask you to visit our wiki and put your thoughts in
our 'Idea Pool':

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpreadUbuntu

Or I will do so when I get time :-)

Regards,

Rubén R.

2009/11/4, Martin Owens :
> Dear Rubén,
>
> Would it be possible to grow spread ubuntu into a more community based
> website now that we have the basics of uploading media?
>
> There are a couple of things I may post into launchpad feature requests
> for spread ubuntu:
>
>  * Quality of Publish scoring - A score out of 5 starts to be calculated
> by the computer comprising the published quality. It's metrics such as
> DPI (90DPI too low, 300DPI just right), formats (pdf+10, png+5, jpegs-10
> etc)
>  * Quality of Source scoring - A score for the source material, xcfs
> should be scored less than svgs, no source or other formats should
> recieve very low scores. Raster images to take into account DPI.
>  * Mashup recognition - I've derived a number of works from the work
> done by others (I admit I had to redraw everything in SVG, but I guess
> most arts aren't up to speed on media source formats) I'd like to be
> able for my works to link back.
> * Group profiles - Have a place for LoCo groups to register an account
> as a consumer of materials. This allows us to say what materials we've
> used and what we've liked.
>  * Requests - Allow consumers of marketing media to request new works
> for specific events or ideas. allow the selection of existing works as
> the kind of styles to use. All works to be uploaded.
>  * Commenting on works.
>
> What we want really is to make the spread ubuntu site not just a
> resource that random people put things into, but a resource that EVERY
> single LoCo should be joining and getting involved in. That was if
> artists do come along to a LoCo, they're automatically involved in the
> marketing system.
>
>  * Marketing Campains - the ability to message all LoCo contacts with
> memberships and/or the LoCo contacts mailing list to get people involved
> with initalitives in certain parts of the world to coordinate the same
> marketing message. This may include twiting/denting or putting up 10
> posters per joiner, but the feature should allow for people to commit
> themselves to doing it and perhaps even for certain areas to organise
> mass print runs.
>
> We can talk about any of these things at UDS is anyone else is going.
> More community involvement, better tools, more reasons for visiting and
> contributing to the spread ubutnu website.
>
> So far I see it as our best focus point for the Ubuntu Marketing group.
>
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
>
>> 2009/11/3 Rubén Romero y Cordero :
>> > Go John!
>> >
>> > I for one have been here so long that playing a new game in the sandbox
>> > might be fun for us all, and not only that but might be exactly what we
>> > need!
>> >
>> > As I have worked in projects I totally agree with new structure in this
>> > team. We really need that and I am sick and tired of us not making this
>> > team
>> > suck less.
>> >
>> > I have decided to support your initiative. The worse that can happens is
>> > that we succeed! :-)
>> >
>> > So, please go forward whether people is there or not.
>> >
>> > I will try my best to be at the meeting and If I don't I promise to read
>> > the
>> > log!
>> >
>> > I send this only to you, because I want you to know this. I am tired to
>> > being too vocal, I like action and you seem to be a guy of action
>> > yourself.
>> >
>> > Let's do this!
>> >
>> > R.
>> >
>
>

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

[Paolo Sammicheli]

Alle 01:11 del 4/11/2009, John Vilsack ha scritto:
> While I appreciate all this newfound enthusiasm about planning,
> planning to plan, voting to meet, meeting to vote, and planning to
> plan a plan about voting to vote to meet if we need to vote on a
> meeting, I'm going to proceed with the meeting on November 11/12.

You decided, nobody else seems against your decision so ok, I will read the 
IRC log later.

What I didn't understood is who you are? While other poster in this thread are 
well know Ubuntu members with some kind of contribution this is not you. 
Please forgive me and present yourself. Your Launchpad profile lack of 
informations.

> The idea about organizing the Ubuntu Community Marketing Team is not
> new, and people have had more than enough opportunity to take this
> proverbial bull by the horns and help get things started here.  To see
> that it only begins to happen when someone else tries to first,
> saddens me.

It saddens me too, but I didn't stand up with sentences like "I decided" and 
"I'm going to proceed".

I posted an objection about the day you decided: I will be travelling outside 
my country that day, at my expenses, for the biggest event in Ubuntu 
community: Ubuntu Developer Summit. Why my request of reconsidering the day of 
the meeting isn't reasonable? Why to set up a meeting during UDS, with people 
from many LoCos, isn't a good idea?

> I'm not attempting to usurp anyone's position or claim one for myself.

Neither do I. So let's play with community rules. I asked to move the day of 
the IRC meeting. Please, answer me why not.

>  I'm offering the benefits of similar experience to help create a
> foundation others here can use.

Could you please show it to us these experiences. Maybe I miss a mail with it, 
I'm so sorry.

> In the meantime, I politely bow out of this thread of the discussion,
> and will focus on the future and not your past.

I'm pretty new in this list. I posted here few times after last UDS. I'm not 
aware about the past and why this team lack of activities. I would like to 
focus on future too so give me the chance to partecipate in this thing.

Ciao
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