Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Tux500
On Wednesday 11 April 2007, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: [snip] | This is wrong in so many ways I am shocked it even made it here. Well it did, and just so happens they are trying to market Linux at the worlds largest 1 day venue. | The amount of money is already quite ridiculous, without mentioning | the kind of event / industry it would go to. Actually 350k sounds low to me truthfully considering the cars themselves cost upwards of a million dollars not including running and testing them. Sponsorship doesn't come easy. | Gas. Noise. Speed. Pollution. Money spending. *COOL ?* Is that how we | want Linux promoted ? Gas, they will be running greener now with an environmental friendly ethanol mixture. Pollution see Gas. Noise, you hear it everyday, get used to it, many people go to Indy every year just for the noise and the excitement, and the next topic. Speed, if you have an issue with it, go back to 9800 baud modem then :) Didn't think so ;p | I don't think so. Well it will be interesting. I remember Firefox either trying the same or doing the same. My only problem with this is what happens if they don't raise all of the money? Who gets that entire amount? Oh, and I just read, $350k doesn't even guarantee the amount of sponsorship they are displaying either. So, if they get lucky and find some poor sap who can't drive worth a damn (AJ Foyt Jr.), well I can already hear the well Linux crashes and burns in turn 3. They are going about it all wrong I think. So they have 1 month to come up with 350k...OK, I keep reading and they are answering my questions...so I will stop with that. I don't trust it, especially since there were fielded cars last year w/o a main sponsor. And what happened to them? Oh they either crashed or their car was built like an old Ford and didn't start. :) -- Rich Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x2E2C0124 pgpiDMRqsULqB.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Meeting
On Wednesday 21 March 2007, Corey Burger wrote: [snip] | I propose we meet on the 31st of March at 20:00 UTC. This means it is | really early morning for the aussies, late evening for the europeans | and midday for the north americans. Does that work for everybody? Works here just fine. -- Rich Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x2E2C0124 pgpGxhcvXY6Br.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Kubuntu Shipit Pack text error?
On Thursday 21 September 2006 12:31, alan c wrote: Am I correct in noticing that the Kubuntu Shipit pack includes instructions for installation such as 'double click on the Install Icon'. It is just that for a user who has never used linux before in any way, and has come to follow the windows way of carefully expecting to follow instructions blindly, an obedient 'double click' in kde at this point may cause lack of confidence just at the stage that a newbie first commits to an installation. When I try it myself now, it causes the installer to open twice, with first an apparent good installer startup, followed by an installer Crash window. Even as an existing linux user, if I were unfamiliar with the Kubuntu distro I would be concerned about an installer crash if I had not *noticed* the typo. I do actually now recall having this very problem at first(!) but I persisted, and am a committed user now). I add here that the shipit pack text generally is absolutely excellent, and I congratulate the authors. -- alan c Yes you are correct. It is a known bug I guess you could say. -- Richard Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com online everywhere as nixternal pgpTDNqfzLm3s.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Run
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 12:37, Chris Socha wrote: Hey Guys, This is just an inicla thought but setting up a 10 kilometer run or something could be good for ubuntu publicity. This could mean that we work in conjunction with another charity (effectively joining forces) or could set up our our own runs all over the world. While i appreciate that the logistics of such a scheme are huge beyond belief, if sucessful, it could product a lot of publicity (and possibly some money which would go to the Ubuntu Foundations). Again, this is just a first idea; what do people think? the_french_canadian (sorry if this is in the wrong place, i've never suscribed to a mailing list before - lol) _ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-49 11fb2b2e6d I hate running! But this is a great idea. I know in Chicago that all the run-a-thons like this get huge publicity no matter the cause. It seems not only is Chicago the fattest city in the world, but also the running'nest city in the world, it don't make sense to me at all. But really, I like your idea, and the funds could be contributed to various charities and what not. Great idea! -- Richard Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com online everywhere as nixternal pgpIFs2IWdsd1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Fedora marketing team chatting about Fedora, Ubuntu and Apple
I see im not the only spy ;) They have a lot of good hidden information as well throughout their wiki - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing -- Richard Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com online everywhere as nixternal pgpIAQYk5IIdV.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] formating of weekly newsletter [Was: Ubuntu Weekly News #10]
On Monday 21 August 2006 08:07, John Little wrote: [snip] Good points. Part of it is my fault. This was my first time working on UWN and in the rush to get it out I forgot to send it as plain text. My apologies to you and everyone who had issues with that. Not your fault the least bit John, as we have been sending them out the same way since day one. Martin brings up a good point and that it should be easier to read via email. I use text based email, and I am guessing that a majority of us are, so formatting would be out of the question possibly, however a clearer format is always possible for the email. Martin, thank you for the compliments as well as the suggestions. I think we can eventually implement some if not all of your suggestions, as each one of them is very valid in the case of the UWN being emailed out. Martin, also note that you are more than welcome to join us in #ubuntu-marketing during the week and assist us with creating and presenting the UWN to the community. Your help would be greatly appreciated, and would be a great way to help contribute to Ubuntu. Thanks again for the email, and we look forward to seeing you help Ubuntu! Take care. -- Richard Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com online everywhere as nixternal pgptzDm1UUYcK.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Weekly News - Issue 10
On Thursday 17 August 2006 09:38, Matthew Revell wrote: Hi all, I'm working Ubuntu Weekly News issue 10. However, my Dad's been taken ill, so I'm going to struggle to complete it on my own. This is actually a pretty cool opportunity for people to get involved. Take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue10 and feel free to start filling it out. Here are some ideas for what you could do: - Write up a feature of the week. - Contribute community news. -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk Matthew, I am sorry to hear that about your father. I will keep you and your family in my prayers, and pray for the best. I am familiar with the UWN as it stands, so if you guys need help, ping me, I am available. Matthew, tend to the family buddy, as we can help out where needed. Good luck and Godspeed! -- Richard Johnson ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com buntudot.org online everywhere as nixternal pgp3b5miv5yvm.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Powered by Stickers
I just wanted to let everyone know, that I created some sample Powered by SVG files for anyone and everyone to use. I did them quick, so if you can make them better, go ahead and do so and update the wiki page, or just add a version to the wiki page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PoweredBy I created them in a 2 inch by 3 inch format, and being svg's you can pretty much scale them to whatever, however you need to make sure you don't distort the logo by stretching it. You can ungroup the image to make changes to each item on the page. You need the Ubuntu Title and MSTT core fonts packages. The following explains the process: Enable Universe and Multiverse repositories - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories Use Adept, Synaptic, Aptitude, or apt-get. sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title msttcorefonts Enjoy! p.s. to open/edit svg files, you need to: sudo apt-get install inkscape -- Richard Johnson ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com buntudot.org online everywhere as nixternal pgpKMpim5ACyH.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Step down considerately
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 14:55, John Baer wrote: Team, I was speaking not long ago with an Information Officer for an organization in the Midwest (US) with supports about 30,000 Windows desktops. I poised the question, have you or would you ever consider deploying a linux desktop? She smiled and responded by saying the only Information Officer she was aware of to attempt this is now seeking employment. Why is this? 1. The status quo is hard to change. Argue in what ever manner you please but Microsoft is serving millions of customers. 2. Computing is serious business. Canonical, for example, lives or dies by its ability to manage data and I am sure everyone who works for Canonical takes computing seriously. I do not know the intended message for the new branding of Ubuntu. To me Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Long Term Support) said I am serious and ready to do business. IMHO you can not follow that statement with bug #1 and I am embarrassed by the message. Regrettably, I am at a lost as to how to add value (excellence) and must take leave of Ubuntu. Good luck and best wishes to all, John Alright, time has come to let it be known. I recently, Microsoft to persue bigger and better things. I worked for them for quite a few years, and actually got to spend time in and around the major teams within the organization. To be honest, Ubuntu isn't the only one that has a bug #1, it truthfully isn't original, but that doesn't matter, it is a way for the Developers to have a little fun. Just so you know, Microsoft has Linux Torvalds as the biggest bug Microsoft has to face, the developers that is. Their developers also have blogs, and a community just like ours. You want to know the difference? WE ARE OPEN, THEY AREN'T! The proof is in the pudding, the expression goes. Google the developer blogs for Microsoft. I have read through quite a few of them, and truthfully it reminds me of old Al Gore campaign commercials, BORING and ROBOTIC like. Ignorance is the reason that guy is looking for employment. It seems as if he tried to deploy something, or had the idea of doing so, but didn't know how to carry through with it. Myself, and quite a few others on Ubuntu Chicago have been working with companies in the Chicago land area on getting them to switch, and we have even been trying to provide some free support to them as well during the initial phase. Granted we aren't switching 30k people, but then again what person does? Usually that is a team that would even recommend such a feat. John, I am sorry to see you go truthfully as your creative design and marketing detail was a welcome. There is a big difference between conventional marketing and open source marketing. I am having a hard time myself trying to grasp this concept. Every concept I learned going for my MBA was totally different then what is going on here, but I know well that some of those concepts will work. I am used to a Marketing Plan, and following and adding to the plan as you go. Here there is no plan, it is all go! Hard to get used to I know. John, take care and the best of wishes to you as well! Godspeed! -- Richard Johnson ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com buntudot.org online everywhere as nixternal pgpD27ckXDGdG.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] if you want an objective for the marketing team this should be it
On Monday 14 August 2006 02:40, Matthew Revell wrote: [snip] What goes on this? Anything that has changed since Dapper. This includes new GNOME, tomboy and f-spot on the desktop, etc. Any chance of a description of how people find out what has changed since Dapper? I use the Mailing lists and #kubuntu-devel for the Kubuntu Release notes. It is very tedious, as you have to sort through and see what is major or edgy in the changes. Daniel T. Chen, aka crimsun, seems to know everything that goes on in the community as well. I ask a question, he is pretty much guaranteed to know the answer ;) -- Richard Johnson ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com buntudot.org online everywhere as nixternal pgp2yH79uy6M5.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Community metrics - how OpenSolaris does it
On Friday 11 August 2006 16:17, Matthew Revell wrote: Each month, the OpenSolaris project's marketing guy (Patrick Finch) posts a page of stats. They show what's going on in the OpenSolaris world and how people come across OpenSolaris. Now, OpenSolaris has the advantage that Sun pays a number of people, including Patrick, to work either full time or part time on the project's marketing. However, I'm pretty certain we could get at least some of this data for Ubuntu. When you say ..some of this data, you mean pick his brain for ideas? Question is: do we want it and, if so, how would we use it? If you are picking his brain for ideas, then I say go for it. We can determine how to use once we have it. We may not even need it or it doesn't pertain to the way Ubuntu should be marketed. However, I am pretty sure you can probably get some clever information concerning marketing goals for open source software. Even if you get information that pertains to Sun, you can always try and work it into Ubuntu marketing. To much information is a good thing, to little information and you have a marketing team lost in the dark ;) -- Richard Johnson ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com buntudot.org online everywhere as nixternal pgpXwavTqD34n.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The Fridge needs you!
On Tuesday 25 July 2006 14:44, Matthew Revell wrote: Hello all, I've just joined the team of editors at The Fridge (fridge.ubuntu.com). Daniel Robitaille and Jorge O Castro have been asked to take The Fridge in hand and open it up to the community! Who could be better than the Ubuntu Marketing team? For now, it's business as usual. However, the future of The Fridge is in the community's hands. Reply to this thread if you're interested in getting involved! Also, it might be interesting to discuss what The Fridge's purpose should be and how it fits in with plans for Ubuntu Magazine. Look forward to hearing from you. -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk Matthew, AWESOME!!! Yesterday, myself and Jordan Mantha (LaserJock) were discussing the Fridge and how to make it better. Jordan and myself came up with many great ideas. If you would like to further discuss this with myself, or Jordan, we are always online, and Jordan is usually in #ubuntu-doc or #ubuntu-motu 99.9% of the time. I am very interested in helping out big time! -- Richard Johnson ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com kubuntu.com edubuntu.com xubuntu.com chi.ubuntu-us.com buntudot.org online everywhere as nixternal pgpwxJDO3d2vL.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Hello and introduction
On Saturday 22 July 2006 07:59, Nestor Diaz wrote: Hi everyone: I am landing on this project, reading forums, mailing-lists archives and wikis. As soon as I finnish I will start working. My profile is creative with web design knowledge (css,xhtml) but I can manage to communicate my ideas (and other's ;) ) in almost any visual art support (vector, 3d, oil-painting, photo, watercolours, pencil, charcoal, ink,...). Video and audio still scape from my knowledge :( My two design workstations are Kubuntu Dapper with the best of breed OS design software plus Adobe Acrobat Reader to check final art. One of my jobs is Art Director at GrupoIkusnet, a Spanish network of 10 small companies that provide I+D services and solutions with Open Source Software. We use Ubuntu for Live CDs and Desktops and we are starting to use it for Servers. I'm very happy to work with all of you to make Ubuntu one of the most polished open source projects from the image and communication point of view. Thanks! -- Néstor Díaz --- Diseño y Comunicación www.grupoikusnet.com --- C/ Santiago 5, 3o.B 47001 Valladolid Nestor, Rockin' Man!!! Glad to have you aboard to help out. I was impressed by the design you did, and I think with a little bit of tweaking you will really have something!!! Thanks for your work and dedication, as it is greatly appreciated among the community. -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgp1ThKfSLUxj.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Re: Switching from Windows
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 23:02, Derek Morton wrote: Hey everyone, I'm pretty new to the marketing team, and I hope that I'm doing this right, but I found a pretty extensive list herehttp://www.libervis.com/mediawiki%2520index.title%2520Table_of_Equival ent_Software%2520style%2520m.htmof linux to Windows equivalent software. Its a pretty good list that we could probably base our own off of if we wanted to. Happy to be here, Derek Morton [snip] Derek, I am currently planning and creating content for an upcoming 'Switching From Windows' guide for the Kubuntu operating system. This list is great and very helpful. Thanks so much for posting it!! -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgpzp317wc4QO.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Members Skill Set List
On Friday 14 July 2006 08:03, Eric Krichinsky wrote: what is the page on the wiki? [snip] Hasn't been created yet. I wanted to get as much information as possible to see if the wiki was going to be feasible, or if I needed something stronger. -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgprIdcsMytlJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] MT Wiki Page Recontruction Ideas*
On Saturday 08 July 2006 13:00, John Vivirito wrote: [snip] ok I like the ideas as stated but i think the first/front page is gonna be what people see and judge first. so a little flashy i dont think will hurt. what i mean by little flashy is like ubuntu.com page the 3 small pictures or somethign to grab someones att: -- GnomeFreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Johnvivirito https://launchpad.net/people/gnomefreak http://freewebs.com/ubuntufreak Linux User# 414246 John, I like the idea of some pics. If you guys have anything in mind that would say Ubuntu, yet remain clean and blend in, lets have them. If we get enough we can vote on the final ones. Thanks for the suggestions!!! -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgp4eJLYAuVTD.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] MT Wiki Page Recontruction Ideas - Comments Needed
Hey team, Alright, I have been tasked with doing some wiki redesign for the team. Right now, my biggest task is a new front page for the marketing team. Since we are new in the sense we have just gone through a major rebuilding, jenda as well as a few others, including myself, agreed on a new wiki front page for us during the last meeting. What I am interested in gathering from all of you is the following: 1. First thing on the page is a Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team, and under that intro, would be a quick 2 or 3 sentence opening as an introduction to the team. Ideas please!!! 2. The front page should be simple and to the point. We can use subpages for everything else. We don't need to have all the members on the front page, all the projects on the front page. The following is a pretty brief example of what I am trying to get at: a.) intro - 2 or 3 brief sentences about the mt b.) how to join - 2 or 3 brief sentences letting them know how to join, unless there is more info needed to join. link to the launchpad/+join c.) communications - list ways to communicate with the team (i.e., ML, IRC) d.) help wanted - 2 or 3 brief sentences about the type of help needed. e.) Public Relations/Press - 2 or 3 brief sentences about PR and a link to a subpage. f.) main projects - list the names and link to a subpage g.) meetings/agenda - link to MT/Meetings wiki w/ a brief intro h.) members/contributors - a brief intro about what this means, and a link to the launchpad 3. If you have a layout idea, place it here. I am by no means a layout guy/designer at all. Post you ideas here also for anything else you would like to see or think is a good idea. This whole thing is just about redesigning what is already in place. Thanks everyone, and continue to Spread Ubuntu!!! Take care. -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgpmZ6biU5qep.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Rrequest for Information
On Friday 07 July 2006 12:06, John Baer wrote: Marketing Team, I come to this distribution list via invitation from Sara Vasquez when I responded to her request for help with the Ubuntu magazine project as posted in the Art Talk forum. I saw value to such an endeavor and easily concluded Ubuntu should have a publication to stand with others like Red Hat in the Linux community. In an effort to measure current activity to determine how I might contribute, I began exploring the Marketing Team, Ubuntu Magazine, and Spread Ubuntu wiki's in addition to other related sites. The result of this exercise left my hands empty of the information I sought to gather. What I am looking for is a project or team charter. In addition, is there a project or marketing plan for some of the efforts underway? Thank you, John Hi John I will just add my quick note here, as I am sure some of the veterans will probably provide more valuable information. You came at a time of restructuring kind of. The past couple of weeks have been hectic, but very productive. It is nice to see the action taking place. You are correct however to notice the lack of information. That is because it is currently either being reconstructed, or being constructed from the ground up. We should hopefully have all the information you are searching for posted soon on the wiki. In the mean time, you have come to the right location for this information. There are others who have been with this team longer then I have and understand some of the aspects you are searching for far better then I. I have worked with Sara and the others with the brainstorming aspect of the magazine, and like you, I have the same feelings towards it. I hope this email helps you out a little on understanding our current situation. I know it doesn't provide you the information you seek, as I am hoping some of the others can provide you with that information. Thanks for the comments and support. Take care!!! -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Next Meeting
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 01:04, Jan Vancura wrote: Joey Stanford wrote: 13:30 during a work day for me. Despite working for a linux friendly company, I'm not able to break free. Jan Vancura wrote: I propose the next MT meeting to be at 19:00 UTC, Thursday, July the 13th, 2006 on IRC in #ubuntu-meeting. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings for details, a-jenda, preferred meeting times etc. Open to discussion... Jenda That makes three protests against the hour. However, it is the hour that fits best according to the wiki. Be sure to sign up there and add your value to the meeting time list. Jenda anytime is good for me. if it is 4am, i will set my alarm for 3:30am then ;) the time you picked works for me, however make sure the other's are comfortable with the time if possible!!! -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgpTmsmqjsutC.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Logo?
On Monday 03 July 2006 10:57, Matthew Revell wrote: On 03/07/06, Jane Silber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to admit that I question whether the marketing team needs a logo. What are you trying to achieve with it? Nixternal - Adam mentioned that you'd started this discussion on the IRC channel. What were your reasons for looking into a logo for the team? For your consideration, please consider what other community teams have done in this regard, e.g., https://art.ubuntu.com/ https://help.ubuntu.com/ If we had a need for our own pages - i.e. outside the main wiki - what the art and doc teams have looks like the simplest solution. -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk It was a suggestion per Jenda that brought the entire issue up. However, after listening to the points made by everyone, I tend to agree with the everyone and that there really is no need for a logo. We have the Ubuntu logo, which holds a great definition, story, and history. I don't think we need anything more then that if you ask me. -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgp75gxAm12Wp.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Re: Contact point for Ubuntu Marketing team
On Monday 03 July 2006 06:02, Matthew Revell wrote: Howdy Rich, On 30/06/06, Rich Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I stated in a previous message is that for Canonical contact I believe we should have a POC for them. I can see the benefit to this: * the guys at Canonical are busy, so one contact point could save them from having to filter too much * if we agree a stance or whatever on the ML or in meetings, the POC would present those and Canonical would know what we'd agreed * inevitably some marketing stuff may be commercially sensitive - Canonical may appreciate someone they know will respect embargoes etc. On the other hand: * you say we should have a POC for Canonical - do you mean only for Canonical? If so, why only Canonical? * it could give the impression of a hierarchy that doesn't exist * may discourage people's creativity/entrepreneurial spirit, if they feel they have to go through an ordained channel * POC may become unavailable, so we'd need to a back-up plan. This is just off the top of my 'ead but it'd be good to hear other people's views on why, if at all, we should have one POC for Canonical-related activity. I can also see that it could make it appear that there is a heirarchy within the team that doesn't really exist. That could be the biggest problem, so we'd need to put in place other measures to ensure we remain as open and flat as possible - e.g. make sure new people are always replied to, have wiki pages that reflect our open nature, etc. It could also be that, after discussion, we decide the benefits of a POC outweigh the perceived hierarchy problem. -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk Matthew, Good points Matthew, as it seems the chose POC is currently away. Matthew I do feel everyone on this list, and everyone on this team has proving that they have the ability to communicate well. With that in mind I think any and all of us should probably communicate with Canonical. However, there will be those who do not communicate as well. I am looking at the situation with an open mind, and I think whatever the best possible solution is, we should go with it. Another thing is that, yes, we do not have any type of hierarchy, which is very popular among the Ubuntu communities, however, I think that w/o some sort of Chain-of-Command or hierarchy, some people may not possess the drive to dive into a job w/o some sort of guidance. OK, that was my 2 cents, however bad it was I apologize in advance. Thanks everyone!!! -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgpEahwHeVZQw.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Logo?
On Monday 03 July 2006 23:18, David Symons wrote: On 7/4/06, Karl Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice to have one for the LP team Here's my suggestion: http://www.liberatedcomputing.net/ubuntu/MarketingTeamLogoIdea ** :P Cheers, Dave. That is awesome, I know exactly what he is referring too with the glasses!!! And it has Ubuntu colors, how perfect!!! LOL to funny. -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgpJlZNrvexHs.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Re: Contact point for Ubuntu Marketing team
On Friday 30 June 2006 10:59, Matthew Revell wrote: What do people think? -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk I would have to agree that maybe for the time being our POC should be this mailing list. However, I think that prior to a member answering or fielding anything in here, should have read and singed a copy of the Code of Conduct. I am pretty sure that all our members are, I just don't know about all who have signed up for this list. I do however think we need a single point of contact for lets say, Canonical. I think the way Jenda has been communicating with them is good enough, just as long as it gets passed on to the team. I am on the documentation team, and let me just tell you it is the smoothest team by far. Matthew East and Jonathan Jesse are looked at as leaders, but they don't take the role. They are more of a mentor then anything else and that is what I trueally appreciate with that team. I noticed everyone works as a team in there. It would be great for the marketing team to eventually get that kind of structure and communication. And there is a always a buzz in the channel. The Marketing Team is off to a great re-start. I will say that in the past, I was some what ashamed of the way things in the community were going. I had voiced my opinion and got barked out, but I stuck with it, doing what I could to Spread Ubuntu. Now it looks like there is a bright future ahead with the team and it is exciting. Marketing is by far the most intense task a team could ever get involved in. Just remember, everytime you say the word Ubuntu you are marketing! That is great. Alright everyone, that is my quick two cents. I am here to help out any of you, any way that I can. I have a decent amount of time to provide the Ubuntu community, so feel free to take advantage of it, but not me ;) Thanks everyone, and thanks to Matthew East for his comments and suggestions, as he is a great person to receive that type of support from!! Until next time... -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgpoG62e6ikZW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Re: Contact point for Ubuntu Marketing team
On Friday 30 June 2006 11:23, Lance Means wrote: I think that having at least an initial point of contact would be good. I joined the list a couple days ago and I am not sure what exactly I can do to help. I am not a marketing person, but I would really like to help promote Ubuntu because I think it is a great os. Having someone to ask, someone that could tell me, for example, that Matthew Revell is looking for someone to proofread a document or we need someone to test the new SpreadUbuntu page, I believe would be helpful. On the other hand, the team might easily feel that a contact person could be helpful from the beginning, I don't know. Let's see how this thread develops. What do people think? Lance, Thank you for the response and the support. We would love to have you onboard offering a hand to the team. Everyone is a marketer, they just might not know it. I think that if you had a question, wanted some help with a task, or was looking for some work, I think a simple email to the marketing-list would suffice for the time being. Right now the team is small, and restructuring, so involving everyone tends to build unity as they don't feel they are less then anyone else and that they to have the power to answer a question, field a task and so on. Like I stated in a previous message is that for Canonical contact I believe we should have a POC for them. Anyways, thank you Lance for the support and the interest that you show. Take care! Until next time... -- Rich Johnson (nixternal) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nixternal https://launchpad.net/people/nixternal The best thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid. pgpSiu9gTAZvn.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
