Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
You might be surprised how much you can do with the command line only. You can play music and browse the web even using cli programs :-) If I had a machine that resource constrained, I would probably install ubuntu server on it and potentially X and a basic window manager (fluxbox perhaps) if I really felt the need. Most of the time, cli would be the best bet. As far as being too old to boot from usb, if you wish you can use a cd to load the usb drive. A quick google showed me this page: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/category/usb-boot-cds/ I can't speak to it, but I have done similar things in the past. The internet is your friend here. Nothing is impossible, but consider your time investment ;-) Nicholas -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
I tested nearly distribution you can imagine, and I found Vector Linux to be the best option for very old machines. Old computers go at the speed of light with it, and no other operating system with graphic interface had shown to be more speedy for me than it. Regards El 08/01/14 16:06, Nicholas Skaggs escribió: You might be surprised how much you can do with the command line only. You can play music and browse the web even using cli programs :-) If I had a machine that resource constrained, I would probably install ubuntu server on it and potentially X and a basic window manager (fluxbox perhaps) if I really felt the need. Most of the time, cli would be the best bet. As far as being too old to boot from usb, if you wish you can use a cd to load the usb drive. A quick google showed me this page: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/category/usb-boot-cds/ I can't speak to it, but I have done similar things in the past. The internet is your friend here. Nothing is impossible, but consider your time investment ;-) Nicholas smime.p7s Description: Firma criptográfica S/MIME -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
Hi Andrew, The iso is too big for a CD, so it need a DVD disk as well as drive to work. But standard Ubuntu 13.10 is too heavy anyway for old computers, and I recommend a flavour with a lighter desktop environment, Lubuntu or Xubuntu for such computers. I think the file system is ISO 9660, but the partitioning is special, which might create problems in some environments. And there are advantages with the partitioning: a. It is a hybrid iso file, that works in a DVD drive as well as cloned in a USB drive b. The 64-bit system (not the 32-bit system) can detect and adjust to the BIOS/UEFI setting, run live and install into new computers. -o- 1. There is a Lubuntu 'live CD' iso file, a desktop installer small enough to run from a CD drive. 2. If the computer is old or has too little RAM (512 MB or less) I would recommend 2a. the Lubuntu alternate iso file or 2b. the One Button Installer instead of the desktop (graphical user interface) installer. The One Button Installer installs from USB (but can be helped via Plop in really old computers). There are extra difficulties with Mac systems, PowerPC as well as Intel based Macs. I have no such computer and know little about it, so I hope someone else can give you advice that is relevant for Macs. Best regards Nio 2014-01-07 21:15, Andrew Moore skrev: There were a few issues. First of all, the ISO was downloaded with OS X, which is not able to mount the image. Evidently it is not in ISO 9660 format (which is readable by any OS)? Secondly, the SHA256 checksum was verified, but the resulting DVD could not be booted by the laptop (an Inspiron 8200), and the laptop is not able (i.e., too old) to boot from USB device. DVD can be read once the laptop is booted with Centos 6.5. Is it possible that just as OS X is unable to mount the DVD, an older laptop may be unable to boot it? The long and the short of it is that Ubuntu 13.10 cannot be easily installed onto this laptop, which is unfortunate because it’s a great machine. Any plans for a LiveCD? Any other routes to installing? Thank you! -AM On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-01-02 17:44, Ali Linx (amjjawad) skrev: On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Moore slew...@icloud.com mailto:slew...@icloud.com wrote: Anyone try ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso? I downloaded from Ubuntu.com and via torrent. Both appear to be corrupt. Can someone confirm this? Thank you! -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality Hi, Have you done this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM -- Remember: All of us are smarter than any one of us. Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad Areas of Involvement https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement My Projects https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects Hi Andrew, A few minutes ago, I downloaded the file from the official website http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and it matches the md5sum: md5check ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 calculated md5sum=d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 should be md5sum=d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 /home/sudodus/bin/md5check indicates SUCCESSFUL download :-) There was probably some temporary error. Best regards Nio -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
There were a few issues. First of all, the ISO was downloaded with OS X, which is not able to mount the image. Evidently it is not in ISO 9660 format (which is readable by any OS)? Secondly, the SHA256 checksum was verified, but the resulting DVD could not be booted by the laptop (an Inspiron 8200), and the laptop is not able (i.e., too old) to boot from USB device. DVD can be read once the laptop is booted with Centos 6.5. Is it possible that just as OS X is unable to mount the DVD, an older laptop may be unable to boot it? The long and the short of it is that Ubuntu 13.10 cannot be easily installed onto this laptop, which is unfortunate because it’s a great machine. Any plans for a LiveCD? Any other routes to installing? Thank you! -AM On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-01-02 17:44, Ali Linx (amjjawad) skrev: On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Moore slew...@icloud.com mailto:slew...@icloud.com wrote: Anyone try ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso? I downloaded from Ubuntu.com and via torrent. Both appear to be corrupt. Can someone confirm this? Thank you! -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality Hi, Have you done this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM -- Remember: All of us are smarter than any one of us. Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad Areas of Involvement https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement My Projects https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects Hi Andrew, A few minutes ago, I downloaded the file from the official website http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and it matches the md5sum: md5check ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 calculated md5sum=d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 should be md5sum=d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 /home/sudodus/bin/md5check indicates SUCCESSFUL download :-) There was probably some temporary error. Best regards Nio -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
Andrew and list On Jan 7, 2014 6:16 PM, Andrew Moore slew...@icloud.com wrote: There were a few issues. First of all, the ISO was downloaded with OS X, which is not able to mount the image. Evidently it is not in ISO 9660 format (which is readable by any OS)? Secondly, the SHA256 checksum was verified, but the resulting DVD could not be booted by the laptop (an Inspiron 8200), and the laptop is not able (i.e., too old) to boot from USB device. DVD can be read once the laptop is booted with Centos 6.5. Is it possible that just as OS X is unable to mount the DVD, an older laptop may be unable to boot it? The long and the short of it is that Ubuntu 13.10 cannot be easily installed onto this laptop, which is unfortunate because it’s a great machine. Any plans for a LiveCD? Any other routes to installing? Thank you! -AM I took a look at this machine on a few computer magazine reviews, which show a typical config of 128mb RAM and a 40gb hard drive, as well as a 1.6ghz processor. In my experience, this won't run Ubuntu; there is far too little RAM. you may be able to get Lubuntu going on it but I would not count on it. If you want to try Lubuntu it should fit on a bootable CD-ROM. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
You guys and gals drive me mad!!! Can you please try to agree on what can be supported as a community spin of non-pae kernel. Yes, that is the topic here 13.10 with non-pae as a trial for a rebuild for 14.04 LTS that lubuntu could possibly support. Instructions are needed, etc. Regards, Phill. On 7 January 2014 23:15, Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, The iso is too big for a CD, so it need a DVD disk as well as drive to work. But standard Ubuntu 13.10 is too heavy anyway for old computers, and I recommend a flavour with a lighter desktop environment, Lubuntu or Xubuntu for such computers. I think the file system is ISO 9660, but the partitioning is special, which might create problems in some environments. And there are advantages with the partitioning: a. It is a hybrid iso file, that works in a DVD drive as well as cloned in a USB drive b. The 64-bit system (not the 32-bit system) can detect and adjust to the BIOS/UEFI setting, run live and install into new computers. -o- 1. There is a Lubuntu 'live CD' iso file, a desktop installer small enough to run from a CD drive. 2. If the computer is old or has too little RAM (512 MB or less) I would recommend 2a. the Lubuntu alternate iso file or 2b. the One Button Installer instead of the desktop (graphical user interface) installer. The One Button Installer installs from USB (but can be helped via Plop in really old computers). There are extra difficulties with Mac systems, PowerPC as well as Intel based Macs. I have no such computer and know little about it, so I hope someone else can give you advice that is relevant for Macs. Best regards Nio 2014-01-07 21:15, Andrew Moore skrev: There were a few issues. First of all, the ISO was downloaded with OS X, which is not able to mount the image. Evidently it is not in ISO 9660 format (which is readable by any OS)? Secondly, the SHA256 checksum was verified, but the resulting DVD could not be booted by the laptop (an Inspiron 8200), and the laptop is not able (i.e., too old) to boot from USB device. DVD can be read once the laptop is booted with Centos 6.5. Is it possible that just as OS X is unable to mount the DVD, an older laptop may be unable to boot it? The long and the short of it is that Ubuntu 13.10 cannot be easily installed onto this laptop, which is unfortunate because it’s a great machine. Any plans for a LiveCD? Any other routes to installing? Thank you! -AM On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-01-02 17:44, Ali Linx (amjjawad) skrev: On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Moore slew...@icloud.com mailto:slew...@icloud.com wrote: Anyone try ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso? I downloaded from Ubuntu.com and via torrent. Both appear to be corrupt. Can someone confirm this? Thank you! -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com mailto: Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality Hi, Have you done this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM -- Remember: All of us are smarter than any one of us. Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad Areas of Involvement https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement My Projects https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects Hi Andrew, A few minutes ago, I downloaded the file from the official website http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and it matches the md5sum: md5check ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 calculated md5sum=d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 should be md5sum=d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 /home/sudodus/bin/md5check indicates SUCCESSFUL download :-) There was probably some temporary error. Best regards Nio -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
lubuntu would struggle at 128 RAM, Yes, it is possible if you use core and a minimal browser, Let me point you to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614page=16p=11832431#post11832431 Regards, Phill. On 8 January 2014 03:18, chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew and list On Jan 7, 2014 6:16 PM, Andrew Moore slew...@icloud.com wrote: There were a few issues. First of all, the ISO was downloaded with OS X, which is not able to mount the image. Evidently it is not in ISO 9660 format (which is readable by any OS)? Secondly, the SHA256 checksum was verified, but the resulting DVD could not be booted by the laptop (an Inspiron 8200), and the laptop is not able (i.e., too old) to boot from USB device. DVD can be read once the laptop is booted with Centos 6.5. Is it possible that just as OS X is unable to mount the DVD, an older laptop may be unable to boot it? The long and the short of it is that Ubuntu 13.10 cannot be easily installed onto this laptop, which is unfortunate because it’s a great machine. Any plans for a LiveCD? Any other routes to installing? Thank you! -AM I took a look at this machine on a few computer magazine reviews, which show a typical config of 128mb RAM and a 40gb hard drive, as well as a 1.6ghz processor. In my experience, this won't run Ubuntu; there is far too little RAM. you may be able to get Lubuntu going on it but I would not count on it. If you want to try Lubuntu it should fit on a bootable CD-ROM. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
Hi again, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: lubuntu would struggle at 128 RAM, Yes, it is possible if you use core and a minimal browser, Let me point you to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614page=16p=11832431#post11832431 Indeed Phill, that was my personal experience +3 years ago :D And Yes, you can indeed install Lubuntu on 128MB RAM with the Mini ISO + the core package - see: http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/06/mini-lubuntu-part-2.html But then, what will you do with that system? browsing? you will sure have hard time as we all know Lubuntu is not super lightweight (not Lubuntu's fault but from experience Ubuntu based systems are not super lightweight). I have talked to many friends with very low hardware. They managed to use Facebook but definitely not YouTube :) In 2010, the machine that you referred to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590614 had the very minimum that can handle Ubuntu Core (Mini ISO). In 2010, the websites were not as heavy and fully loaded as now. On that time, I couldn't open any website :) But as I mentioned on my previous reply, if it is going to be for non-web tasks, or a machine for experiment and/or learning, he is good to go :) Regards, Phill. Thank you! On 8 January 2014 03:18, chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew and list On Jan 7, 2014 6:16 PM, Andrew Moore slew...@icloud.com wrote: There were a few issues. First of all, the ISO was downloaded with OS X, which is not able to mount the image. Evidently it is not in ISO 9660 format (which is readable by any OS)? Secondly, the SHA256 checksum was verified, but the resulting DVD could not be booted by the laptop (an Inspiron 8200), and the laptop is not able (i.e., too old) to boot from USB device. DVD can be read once the laptop is booted with Centos 6.5. Is it possible that just as OS X is unable to mount the DVD, an older laptop may be unable to boot it? The long and the short of it is that Ubuntu 13.10 cannot be easily installed onto this laptop, which is unfortunate because it’s a great machine. Any plans for a LiveCD? Any other routes to installing? Thank you! -AM I took a look at this machine on a few computer magazine reviews, which show a typical config of 128mb RAM and a 40gb hard drive, as well as a 1.6ghz processor. In my experience, this won't run Ubuntu; there is far too little RAM. you may be able to get Lubuntu going on it but I would not count on it. If you want to try Lubuntu it should fit on a bootable CD-ROM. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Remember: All of us are smarter than any one of us. Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad Areas of Involvement https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement My Projects https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Moore slew...@icloud.com wrote: Anyone try ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso? I downloaded from Ubuntu.com and via torrent. Both appear to be corrupt. Can someone confirm this? Thank you! -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality Hi, Have you done this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM -- Remember: All of us are smarter than any one of us. Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad Areas of Involvement https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement My Projects https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
Re: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso: no mountable filesystem
2014-01-02 17:44, Ali Linx (amjjawad) skrev: On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Moore slew...@icloud.com mailto:slew...@icloud.com wrote: Anyone try ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso? I downloaded from Ubuntu.com and via torrent. Both appear to be corrupt. Can someone confirm this? Thank you! -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality Hi, Have you done this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM -- Remember: All of us are smarter than any one of us. Best Regards, amjjawad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad Areas of Involvement https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement My Projects https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects Hi Andrew, A few minutes ago, I downloaded the file from the official website http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and it matches the md5sum: md5check ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 calculated md5sum=d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 should be md5sum=d0508f909c2c71d96aeac5efb0329b33 /home/sudodus/bin/md5check indicates SUCCESSFUL download :-) There was probably some temporary error. Best regards Nio -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
