Re: ubuntustudio contributors meeting

2011-06-04 Thread C K
Just a note to this, Scott and I will be getting together ~12:00 UTC
(5hrs before the meeting) to do some hacking, chatting and generally
hanging out. Not sure how long it will go but there should be some
activity.

I'm sure we'll touch on art, the website, packaging, what will be in
the new -desktop seeds etc. Hopefully it will be a productive day. We
*have* to get some things settled before we can start to build proper
disks again.



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Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Oneiric artwork brainstorming/discussion

2011-05-29 Thread C K
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Scott Lavender
scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote:
 If that was 5:00 am CST time then I'm afraid I missed it already :(

 I'm used to seeing UTC rather than GMT and assumed that it was close to EST,
 CST, or PCT.

Naa... Should be like 4pm our time Scott. 9pm for you Izo?

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Oneiric artwork brainstorming/discussion

2011-05-26 Thread C K
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Izo designby...@gmail.com wrote:
 Right, think I'm about done with this now. This is how I, potentially at
 least, see the Ubuntu Studio Oneiric desktop. PLEASE NOTE: this isn't
 prescriptive, I'm not saying, This is DEFINITELY how the desktop should
 look, GET ON IT, I'm saying, in terms of an overarching look and feel,
 perhaps something like this is the way forward.
 By all means, give me your opinions and whatnot.

Maybe you missed some details I laid out in previous emails.

Generally, I wouldn't ship a wallpaper with branding. Especially one
with it so central. Something subtle would possibly work.

The UI is set. Working toward using only AWN at the bottom, or it
doesn't work out, a single panel across the top copying our GNOME
layout.

I do still need to add some details to the wiki but between that and
emails I thought things were clearer.

I am open to the GTK theme ideas. Do you do any tinkering there Izo?

In terms of over-arching look and feel, the plymouth, LightDM and
wallpaper images are the things I'm looking to tie into the website
really.

I'm hoping for various revisions/ideas for the wallpaper. From that,
many ideas can come. For instance: We could use the same base image
for the LightDM and wallpaper, but the LightDM has branding and the
desktop does not. So it appears to fade away.

Based on this etched idea, I'll come up with some concepts. I'm off
for the next 4 days. ;) Izo: Can you send me the source for the
wallpaper?

How's 20:00GMT for that meeting on Sunday? Scott?

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Oneiric artwork brainstorming/discussion

2011-05-25 Thread C K
So without any alternative thematic ideas, Izo, let's move forward
with developing this etched concept.

@Izo: Do you want to set up a time to do some real-time chat on IRC?
Along with website and wallpaper, images for LightDM will have to be
developed. Would you like me to do the research into what's needed or
would you like to look into it and design something?

I did have a thought. Studio is planning to ship AWN by default. I was
thinking that it would be cool to develop a dock bg/theme that makes
the icons look as if their in a convex recess scalloped into the
wallpaper.  Yea/nay?


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Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Oneiric artwork brainstorming/discussion

2011-05-25 Thread C K
Or, take that etched out look you did to the logo, and use it for the
AWN bg. http://imageshack.us/m/683/6924/ubuntustudiowallpaperdr.jpg

Instead of our logo sitting there, it would be icons.

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Future Ubuntu Studio website

2011-05-24 Thread C K
While the art discussion is ongoing I feel that the website structure
needs some more development. Features, hosting and all that. Art can
be dropped in any time.

@Scott: Maybe start a wiki page for the website development? Might be
one already and I missed it. If there is or you create one, just make
it the last line in your posts to this thread or something.


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Re: UbuStu Art

2011-05-24 Thread C K
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:58 AM, red honki pdi...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi
 thank you.
 because ubuntu studio is to long,
 it is hard to design logo.
 can we have short name?

/Officially/ Ubuntu Studio is the approved form and the current
logos are all that will be supported. /Unofficially/ folks can do what
they like.


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Re: UbuStu Themes

2011-05-23 Thread C K
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Seattle Chaz seattlec...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings All:

 Might I
 request/suggest that the final UbuStu theme provide a choice between
 dark and light similar to the Ambiance and Radiance themes available in
 plain vanilla Ubuntu?

If there's time that's the plan.



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Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Oneiric artwork brainstorming/discussion

2011-05-23 Thread C K
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Ralf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 Less is more, but also for supposed simplicity. I'm sure that most
 people like today's common desktop vogue. And as I've written before,
 the layout is good, but OTOH, why not doing something that isn't the
 current whim of trend? Not for Oneiric, but e.g. for the release that
 will follow.

I've always had plans to do something very out there. Thing is, far
out ideas tend to appeal to a very narrow audience.

The current plan, while Mac-like in that it uses AWN will tend to be
even more minimal. But still very productive. I have been testing the
proposed layout on 3 other family members and they adapted very
quickly. I detest the idea of moving the menu items away from the
focused window. To me, it doesn't make sense as it tends to make for
more mouse travel instead of moving within the currently focused
window.

All that aside, Ralf, after this release I think Scott would welcome
anyone who could plan and implement (-this being key) something far
out yet productive. :)

So does anyone have a counter idea to this etched look? Should we
just let Izo loose? :)


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Re: Artwork FYI

2011-05-21 Thread C K
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jorge G. Mare jorge.g.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 I appreciate your candidness. In the same spirit of candidness, I will
 have to say that if this is the case, then my interest and with it my
 motivation dwindles.

I know that my approach to this is opaque at the moment. It isn't
meant as a snub. It's to simply cut down on the signal to noise.

I want to take us from having no direction, to a general heading. I'm
hoping to get a couple of options from Izo then bring in a few others
to get opinions then. There's 1 art director, me. I take many steps to
build consensus but ultimately I'll make the call.

Here's what I'll do. Right now our list is pretty low-traffic and art
focused anyway so I'll ask Izo to join. It's a 50/50 shot.

If he joins I'll start a new thread for intros and to bring everyone
up to speed. If not, I'll be CC'ing Jorge and Scott once there's
something to look at.


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Re: Artwork FYI

2011-05-20 Thread C K
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Jorge G. Mare jorge.g.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Cory,

 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:42 PM, C K coryis...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Jorge G. Mare jorge.g.m...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Howdy,

 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:25 PM, C K coryis...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am currently working with guys at The Shimmer project
 (http://shimmerproject.org) and Izo (www.design-by-izo.com) for our
 new art.

 I will CC the relevant folks once more info/ideas start to com into
 focus. (it will most likely be for website stuff as the GTK theme work
 will be more of a refresh/update of the current theme)

 It is great to see creative and apparently very talented people
 involved in this. But, can you please make this process more open and
 inclusive, so that those of us who will be affected by this initiative
 (i.e., myself with regards to the new website) can have a chance to
 provide input and influence the outcome before the fact?

 Hmm... Well, that's what I felt I said by sending this email in the
 1st place. :(

 Your message indicates that you are already working on the new art
 elsewhere with this other people, and that the rest of us will be
 informed at some point in the future. But if I misread your email, my
 apologies. :)

I am currently in the very early stages (like 2 or 3 emails worth) of
working out thematic ideas.

Once there's something to show, I'll CC some folks. (as said in my 1st email)

I would ask them to join our list but the past has shown me that it's
never as useful as hoped and they never want our other email. Most
folks I've asked don't want to be bothered.

The GTK and XFWM/Metacity themes I will be taking care of with the
Shimmer folks without input from others.

The wallpaper, LightDM, Plymouth and images for the website will all
have a consistent message and will come from Izo. Once he and I have
some sort of a direction I'll CC Scott and Jorge.

@Jorge: Honestly, I'm not looking for many opinions as to the thematic
elements that will represent Ubuntu Studio so my plan is to bring you
in once we have some images. I know you'll need particular sizes for
things, as well as come up with ideas after seeing some early images.
Things won't be set in stone but somewhat of a path will be chosen by
Scott and I once Izo has had some time to be creative.


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New icon set to use?

2011-05-19 Thread C K
So with the new UI we'll be using a new icon set. Suggestions? It must
already be packaged.

I'm leaning toward Forenza (sp?) if its packaged. It's nice and
orderly. Once a base set is picked, we'll develop our own add-on
icons. (folders and such)

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Re: New icon set to use?

2011-05-19 Thread C K
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Ronan Jouchet ro...@jouchet.fr wrote:
 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Ronan Jouchet ro...@jouchet.fr wrote:
 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:26 AM, C K coryis...@gmail.com wrote:
 So with the new UI we'll be using a new icon set. Suggestions? It must
 already be packaged.

 I'm leaning toward Forenza (sp?) if its packaged. It's nice and
 orderly. Once a base set is picked, we'll develop our own add-on
 icons. (folders and such)

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 Hi Cory.

 I guess you meant Faenza. Love it too.
 For those who haven't heard of it, it is a very complete and, indeed,
 orderly icon set, see
 http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Faenza?content=128143

 Cheers,
 Ronan

 Regard packaging of Faenza, tiheum maintains a PPA. I included him in
 the discussion, maybe he can give us some help/hints.
 Address of his PPA is https://launchpad.net/~tiheum/+archive/equinox

 Regards, and sorry everybody for the double-mail
 Ronan



It will have to either be a packaged set, or get into the official
repos ASAP to use it.

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Re: New icon set to use?

2011-05-19 Thread C K
Very much a work in progress. (look near the bottom)

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/OfficialOneiric

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Re: New icon set to use?

2011-05-19 Thread C K
I realize this is all very subjective and can't please everyone.

Plan is, Faenza if packaged and most likely Elementary as a backup. We
will develop our own folders and whatnot as they come in. That set
will inherit whatever becomes our new base set.

The current Tango-based set will made available. In what for will be
determined later.

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PulseAudio and Ubuntu Studio 11.10

2011-05-13 Thread C K
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:16 PM, David Henningsson
david.hennings...@canonical.com wrote:
 Will PulseAudio still be a part of Ubuntu Studio?

As it is so tightly woven into Ubuntu, I suspect it will. We are
however looking to better integrate JACK with PA. (seems like we've
been trying this forever)

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Re: Social Media Team Website development

2011-05-09 Thread C K
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Louie Queral louiethecu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi friends,
 My name is Luis Queral and I'm a 20 year old social-media consultant at
 Webconnection, a baltimore-based web design/development firm. I'm curious as
 to if Ubuntu Studio currently has a social-media strategy, and if not, how
 we could plan and initiate one. I have a fairly good idea of a marketing
 concept for us (as an open-source team), and really think it would benefit
 Ubuntu Studio especially with the new web-site redesign.
 Also, if you would be interested (assuming there isn't a specific set of
 social-media goals), please feel free to respond with your input and ideas.
 -Luis

Yo! I'm from P.G. County. :) But I live in Raleigh now and miss
D.C./Baltimore alot.

Anyway, this is exactly the subject that I wanted to touch on later
tonight. (im about to go to work) It's what Scott and i feel is the
next step for Studio. Getting the distro together is really pretty
straight-forward. WHat to do with the website besides a refresh is
more, up-in-the-air and needs some brainstorming.


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Re: US website theme RFC request for screenshots

2011-05-08 Thread C K
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Jorge G. Mare jorge.g.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy,

 Although this is still very much work in progress, I thought I would
 put the new website in it's current state on a staging URL so that you
 guys can play with it:

 http://www.myhaiku.org

 There is still quite a bit left to wrap up the theme, so I will
 continue to work on my local copy as it is much faster. Feel free to
 use the staging site online and provide feedback on this thread, but
 please do not expect changes to it right away; instead, I will upload
 updated iterations of the site periodically so that you can see the
 progress.

 Long story short, this is still very much work in progress, so be nice. ;)


@Jorge. Thank you very much for this stellar work. It will surely make
the 11.10 release that much stronger.

A few questions. On the logo text, are you using the ubuntu font or
our SVG logo? Reason I ask is because the kerning is different between
the two, Its tighter on the SVG. Also, the tagline under the logo is
not our official Let Your Creativity Fly or ... damn there was
another. :P Anyway, a new tagline is totally up for discussion. :)

Good on you man. :)


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Re: Re: Ubuntu Studio Developer Meeting

2011-05-07 Thread C K
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 7:59 AM,  scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote:
 *** IMPORTANT ***

 Due to various conflicting schedule for many people we will be pushing the
 meeting until the following weekend.

 Therefore the meeting will be on Sunday, May 15th @ 14:00 UTC for the
 meeting. Again, the time convertor [1] is included for your convenience.

 The location remains the same, i.e. #ubuntustudio-devel on freenode.net IRC.


Gotcha.

You and I should still get together on Sunday. I think the archive is
open so I can upload. We can also brainstorm about the XFCE change
announcement.

Anyone else who wants to hang out is welcome.

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Re: US website theme RFC request for screenshots

2011-05-01 Thread C K
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Jorge G. Mare jorge.g.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy,

 Just wanted to let you know that I have not vanished from the map. :)
 Real life (mostly work) has been hectic lately, but I hope to have
 some time to resume work on the new website theme towards the end of
 this coming week. Keep you guys posted.

Thanx Jorge. I think we all know you have other things to do as well. :)

I personally feel that things will be slow until the 11.10 repo opens
up. I'm doing mostly investigative work 'till then. My plan is slowly
taking shape. :)

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Re: Studio's 11.10 Roadmap

2011-05-01 Thread C K
So, nobody can get something together? We have no new person on this
list who wants to jump on this? Such a low entry barrier. It's just a
wiki page and maybe some basic formatting. Just copy some other page
layouts.

I came back to help for this release but can't nor won't do it all.

(note im looking for someone new to step upon this)

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Re: Design concepts for Ubuntu Studio 11.10

2011-04-24 Thread C K
So in tinkering a bit this weekend it looks as though AWN brings ALOT
of depends. I'll look into what is actually needed. (ie if i can just
pull actual depends and not recommends and file any depends that
actually aren't needed) Also, there's no currently
functioning/packaged network manager applet.

Docky doesn't accomplish as much of the panel replacement requirements as AWN.

So, going forward in the coming weeks I will simply try to copy our
GNOME UI using XFCE.

This will get me more familiar with how XFCE packaging settings work.
We will still look toward a new custom UI.

I intend on calling for artwork and reaching out toward the
Xubuntu-devs in the next week or so.

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Re: Studio's 11.10 Roadmap

2011-04-24 Thread C K
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Scott Lavender
scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:04 AM, C K coryis...@gmail.com wrote:

 I feel we need to set some development milestones.

 While I could start a wiki page with some basic structure I'd like to
 get some others involved.

 Any takers?

 Coincidentally I was just talking with holstein on IRC about this.

 Now that we have established XFCE as the new DE, I would like to have the
 new UI defined during the next month if possible.

 Other than that I don't have any specifics at this point on other
 milestone.

Have art done by... Testing for...Launch website... Just think of
everything we'd need for this next release.

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Re: US website theme RFC request for screenshots

2011-04-15 Thread C K
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Benjamin Turner b.g.tur...@gmail.comwrote:


  News post

 https://picasaweb.google.com/jorge.g.mare/UbuntuStudioArtwork#5595278554459506242

 User profile

 https://picasaweb.google.com/jorge.g.mare/UbuntuStudioArtwork#5595278554875022562

 Blog post

 https://picasaweb.google.com/jorge.g.mare/UbuntuStudioArtwork#5595284881897234786


 Jorge

 Jorge -
 I think that this theme is coming along wonderfully.  There are a few
 things that you may still be working on, but I thought I would give my 2
 cents. The main elements of page adhere to a pretty good grid system (the
 green lines in the link below). There are some things that don't really
 follow the grid that you are beginning to establish (red lines).
 It seems that perhaps these elements are part of the 'main content' or
 something like that, and that they are structured more like a directory tree
 - great for viewing files - but somewhat breaking from your design grid.

 Overall, I think that your font choices are doing their jobs - I can tell
 that 'UbuntuStudio Live Recording' is the title of the article, and that the
 'view edit unpublish' are navigational. However the 'Home' from the main
 menu and the 'home' in the content area feels a little redundant, or perhaps
 unclear as to what each instance does. Perhaps if you are trying to
 establish where the user is, you could hi-light the 'home' in the menu area?

 I've uploaded a screenshot with a few annotations to hopefully clarify what
 I mean:


 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9k0EVSEZ-UoHpjegBBjN-iHR1PMKhI6HfAFTAPr0k3A?feat=directlink

 Thanks for all the great work you're doing!
 - Benjamin



I wanted to point out that this is a perfect example of critique. Very clear
and well thought out.

We need more of this.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE and Studio users workflow.

2011-04-15 Thread C K
So since no competing proposals against using XFCE have been put forth I'll
consider it a done deal. We're going with XFCE.

Over the next few weeks I'll be studying the technical aspects of making
this happen. Setting themes, working on a default UI, (I'll just use
Xubuntu's for now) making new packages and testing upgrade paths. I worry
this will break existing Studio users setups. Or at least add alot of cruft.
I'll also be reaching out to the Xubuntu folks.

I hope to set up a PPA that can be added on top of a base CLI install for
testing.

Any interesting ideas from other XFCE distros are welcome.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE and Studio users workflow.

2011-04-15 Thread C K
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Scott Lavender
scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:52 AM, C K coryis...@gmail.com wrote:

 So since no competing proposals against using XFCE have been put forth I'll 
 consider it a done deal. We're going with XFCE.
 Over the next few weeks I'll be studying the technical aspects of making 
 this happen. Setting themes, working on a default UI, (I'll just use 
 Xubuntu's for now) making new packages and testing upgrade paths. I worry 
 this will break existing Studio users setups. Or at least add alot of cruft. 
 I'll also be reaching out to the Xubuntu folks.
 I hope to set up a PPA that can be added on top of a base CLI install for 
 testing.
 Any interesting ideas from other XFCE distros are welcome.

 Cory,

 Do have an idea of which dock you are considering.  I would really like to 
 talk to the developer (whomever it is) about my idea of a context area for 
 work flows.

 My idea is pretty simple but slightly hard to explain.

 The dock would be  divide into a left static section and a right dynamic 
 or contextual work flow section.

 The left side would contain all non-work flow launchers that would remain 
 there always visible.  For example, these might include Firefox, Gedit, 
 Terminal, Nautilus.

 The first launcher on the right side would contain a context or work flow 
 selection launcher..more of a pick list really.  You pick which work flow you 
 want and this controls what other launchers on the right side are visible.

 For example, if you wanted to record audio then you pick the record audio 
 work flow from the selector and qjackctl, Ardour, Hydrogen, Rakarrack, and 
 guitarix launchers might be visible.  If you were to pick mastering then 
 perhaps qjackctl, ardour, and jamin would be visible.

 We could ship a sane default of both work flow selections and applications 
 for each selection.  However, users should be able to easily modify them and 
 add new ones.

 The upshot to all of this is that you will not need to drill down menus, nor 
 even need menus.  Well, conventional menus.  Additionally, you will not load 
 up your dock with a bagillion launchers and have to try to sort through 
 them.  When you wish to perform a certain task, you adjust the selection on 
 the right side of the dock and only those launchers that support your 
 workflow are visible.  Add to that that users can modify or add or remove 
 both selections and applications and I think this is a win.

 Whew.  Not that I said all that, Cory do you have a feeling which dock you 
 are considering?



AWN (avant-window-navigator) is the only one I mentioned. Though
really, whatever best replaces a panel, actually, whatever is the best
balance for us is what we should use.
I use AWN and Docky on different systems. AWN works nicer without
compositing IMO.
I also wanted to look into stacking applets. (awn has one:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tSxyVygKnu0/TT-8DRg0wlI/AUQ/PEsFN3eVdDQ/s320/stack_applet.png)
See if its something we can populate with task focused apps. Like we
do with the Studio menus.
Anyone else have ideas here?

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE and Studiousers workflow.

2011-04-15 Thread C K
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 1:45 PM,  louiethecu...@gmail.com wrote:
 rocket dock is also very nice. also really light

I'm sorry but you do realize Rocket Dock is for windows. Unless they
have some release I haven't seen?

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Re: Design concepts for Ubuntu Studio 11.10

2011-04-15 Thread C K
As we're now talking about design/UI elements I'm splitting this chat off.

Examples of my AWN idea and the stack app.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3413/56996319.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7092/59658841.jpg

I would want to be able to set a static icon and maybe some other tweeks.

I encourage others to tinker and post screenshots.

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Re: US website theme RFC request for screenshots

2011-04-14 Thread C K
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Louie Queral louiethecu...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is fabulous, great job!
 Curious though, what are your plans for the header? I feel like we've had
 some Ubuntu Studio logo work done before, and we could possibly resurrect
 that unless you have the logo under control.
 Again, this is awesome.
 -luis

Yes. The new logo will be used. I'm sure the website will change a bit
once we flesh the art direction.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio Advertisement

2011-04-13 Thread C K
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:13 AM, ricardo lafuente boll...@sollec.org wrote:
 We're lurking and reading, trying to figure out where we can
 begin work without clashing with existing aesthetic perspectives. As I
 mentioned to Scott, we'd probably like to start by customising the UI of
 Inkscape and Gimp to begin with, in order to make them look smooth inside
 the UbS general UI direction.

I'm unsure that we want to start messing with application UI's.
Packaging-wise, it can be a real pain. Also, I'm unsure how upstream
would feel about it.

Personally, the way I read things was there might be a possibility of
you guys helping with art. US11.10 will need a concept and artist to
execute said vision. This is where I would like help. Getting together
a cohesive look to the desktop and website.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 11.10 UI discussion. GNOME3, Unity, XFCE and Studio users workflow.

2011-04-12 Thread C K
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Eric Hedekar aftertheb...@gmail.com wrote:
 XFCE does not seem like it has anything to offer other than old/reliable
 code.

That's a pretty strong reason for choosing it actually. That, and the
fact that it uses GTK will make it a less jarring switch than GNOME
shell or Canonical's Unity.

It's resource intensiveness is not a factor as it's equal to or less
than current GNOME2.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio Advertisement

2011-04-12 Thread C K
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Jorge G. Mare jorge.g.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Once you confirm the actual deadline I will let you know if I can
 produce something or not.

Dude, I love that you use the word howdy. :)

Anyway, I think the deadline would be quite a ways off. Say, a month
or so before 11.10's release. But don't make it live 'till release.

Along with a deadline, you'll need to be in on the theming chat that
we hopefully get together w/the Libre graphics guys as per Ricardo's
suggestion. We'll need to have a overarching concept/direction that is
cohesive.

@Scott - Can you head up scheduling a meeting with these guys on IRC?
Just something to brainstorm on concepts.  Hell, we still need to find
out if they are even interested.

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Re: Ubuntu Studio Advertisement

2011-04-11 Thread C K
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Scott Lavender
scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello All,

 Recently, I have been having some talks with the editors of Libre Graphics
 Magazine [1] about helping Ubuntu Studio developing a more comprehensive and
 documented graphical applications set.  A side result was that we were
 generously offered a full-page (A4) advertisement for Ubuntu Studio :)

 I would expect that Mr. MacInnis would be involved in this, but is anyone
 interested in helping develop an ad?

 We will need to develop a concept for the ad and also create the graphics
 for it.  I don't know any requirements from the Libre Graphics folks at this
 time, I am aware that they work with .svg files so I would expect Inkscape
 to be a perfectly acceptable medium to create the artwork.

I would ask about size and DPI requirements. Proper dimensions even
when working with SVGs is important.

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Re: The audio group

2010-09-08 Thread C K
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Brian David beej...@gmail.com wrote:
 The RT kernel tends to be unpredictable (which is why
 it is no longer the standard Ubuntu Studio kernel)

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Incorrect. It has to do with our inability to maintain the RT kernel
to Ubuntu propers liking. A lot of it stems from miscommunication
along with upstream RT not patching for a current upstream (or what
ever Ubuntu uses) kernel. Resulting in us shipping a slightly older
kernel.


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Fwd: (re)Developing the Ubuntu Studio Site

2010-09-01 Thread C K
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Chris Jones chrisjo...@comcen.com.au wrote:
 Well like I said. Your request was very vague and could have been read
 many different ways.

It was not. I even linked to the requests.

 Hire someone... lol. Sorry mate, but I think you're forgetting this is
 volunteer work. And if you think you can push your weight around with
 people who are clearly trying to help out, you have another think
 coming.
 Like I said, I am offering my services for free. If it's not wanted,
 speak up because I have enough paid work to keep me busy.

 If you're not happy with the current mockups Scott and myself have
 proposed, how about you throw some input in yourself on your own ideas.
 I am yet to hear your thoughts!...

Trust me, out of *anyone*, *anyone* here I know this is volunteer.
Asking for examples of your work is completely justified. If you think
that simply volunteering for something means that the resulting output
of the effort should be accepted, then no. This is not the project for
you. There's standards even in Free Software.

And note: *You* have shown no _graphical_ mockups. Only general
positioning ones. Scott is the only one who has and he's said that
wouldn't cut it.

Here's a direct question Chris: Is your artistic/design skills as good
or better than what the site currently is? If they are, it's not
unreasonable to be asked to prove it.

I'm sorry, but this has become just a mess over a simple question.

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Re: (re)Developing the Ubuntu Studio Site

2010-09-01 Thread C K
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Chris Jones chrisjo...@comcen.com.au wrote:
 For the record, I run my own photographic imaging business which covers
 photo, graphic and web work. I wouldn't be doing it if I was not worthy
 of it, that's not how the digital imaging and design sector works, which
 clearly you have no understanding of, to make the assumption you
 have/do.

You're the one clearly making assumptions. I could assume that your
graphic skills are nill but no. I asked a *simple* question. You have
no clue about me, or what I do, sport. ;)

I /can/ however demonstrate that I have a /somewhat/ artistic bone in
my body since, hell, all my stuff is actually /in/ Ubuntu Studio.

You're worthy? (your words) Fine. Prove it. Post some links to art.
Digital or otherwise. Is that so unreasonable a question? (one you
still haven't even attempted to answer and looks like you're just
evading) You gonna get a tattoo without knowing what the artists style
it?

Volunteer or not, you should prove you can do a task just like you
were hired to do it.

You're also working without defining an audience. How the hell can you
design for people you don't know? (judging by the layout examples they
have problems seeing) And after that, what are the thematic elements
or style you're going for? The answers of course are up to Scott.

So, continue to evade all you like. I'm sure there's someone else that
can answer a simple question. This has worn thin become a waste of my
time.


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Re: Nightly testing PPA

2010-08-31 Thread C K
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Andrew Hunter and...@aehunter.net wrote:
 Hey Everyone,

 I just want to announce that I've set up a ppa for nightly builds of
 FFmpeg, x264 and (soon) blender. Currently it supports Lucid, but if
 there are any maverick testers out there, it is simple to add support
 for that too.

 The url is ppa:rexbron/rexbron-nightly

 Please test it out and let me know how it works!

Hey Andrew. You wanna do this as part of Studio? make a sub-team under
*-dev maybe? *-testing or *-nightly or something?


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Re: (re)Developing the Ubuntu Studio Site

2010-08-30 Thread C K
I'm sorry if I missed it Chris, (i looked back but musta missed it)
but can you send links of sites you've done?

I wanna see what you can do graphically.


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Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork proposal

2010-06-19 Thread C K
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Brian David beej...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I know, the new Ubuntu font is not yet available.

 Here's my contribution.  I tried my best to imitate the Lucid font, and even
 added a bit of the Lucid purple in there.  There are three pics: a fancy
 color version; a simple color version; and a gray one similar to the Mac
 image linked above.  I've also added a link to the tar.gz file that has the
 Inkscape svgs, in case anyone cares to mess around around with them:

 http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_fancy.png
 http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_simple.png
 http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_gray.png
 http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio.tar.gz

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I've been trying to stay away from putting my 2 cents so things can
just develop. I gotta say a little bit now. ;)

I can most likely get the letters to make our logo text from the guys
@ Canonical. The font is still under development. *If* it is decided
that the new font is used for our text as well, I believe our COF will
need a more angular revamp to fit this new type style.

The effort around the Made with Ubuntu idea is cool, but I wanna say
it would be nice to see someone step up and revamp the studio art.


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Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork proposal

2010-06-19 Thread C K
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Brian David beej...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's a another one, with reflections, since people seem to like those:

 http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_reflect.png

 Good to hear from you again, Cory.

 I would love to revamp the studio artwork.  Do you have any links to some
 documentation on creating a theme, particularly with Plymouth?  I can Google
 it, and probably will, but it might save me some time if you point me in the
 right direction.

Honestly, Plymouth is something I'd have to dig into myself as well.
IIRC, there's a good bit of info out there though.

 It would be awesome to get a hold of the current Lucid font, because I think
 it looks good.  I'd disagree with changing the COF to fit the font, though.
 I'm fond of the Ubuntu Studio COF.  Of course, if people prefer that it'd be
 changed, then so be it.

For me, the angularity of the new font vs. the COF is very striking.
Might work better if we do something like the Ubuntu COF where it's a
negative/cutout/whatever. Using out blue.

 I'm new to this type of thing, so how would be the best way to go about it?
 Should I start by submitting some sketches/mock-ups and see if the community
 approves?

I'm sure you can make a page with ideas under out artwork section on the wiki.

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Re: Plymouth Splash for Lucid

2010-03-07 Thread C K
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Fritz Meissner meissner.fr...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 March 2010 03:15, Louie Queral louiethecu...@gmail.com wrote:
  What do you guys think of the gnome theme we have currently? Do you think
 it
  deserves a make over?
 
 One thing I notice in Studio 9.04 (not sure if this is still the same
 in 9.10) is that the maximise/minimise/close title bar buttons are
 almost anonymous (I think that the ^ and x markings are there inside
 them but they're all but invisible). I can navigate them quite happily
 by instinct, but I see that in some of the recent builds the title bar
 buttons have been moved around ( see Ars Technica

 http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/03/hands-on-a-close-look-at-ubuntus-new-non-brown-theme.ars
 ); if this happens, then their functions are going to have to be very
 clearly visible.


I'll test this tomorrow. I'd bet Studio was effected by this change. If so,
we need to fix it in our -settings package. Should be simple enough.


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