Re: Dual Boot Problem SOLVED

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 20:40 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> On 11/09/2010 11:24 AM, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> > Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 15:19 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >>
> >>  
> >>> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:06 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  I've gone ahead and installed Grub2, did a reboot and still no sign of
>  10.04.
> 
>   
> >>> Hi Mischa :)
> >>>
> >>> open a terminal emulation and run
> >>>
> >>> sudo update-grub
> >>>
> >>> then reboot. Are there any new entries?
> >>>
> >>> Hth,
> >>>
> >>> Ralf
> >>>
> >>>
> >> PS:
> >>
> >> Oops, for hardy you might need to compile GRUB2, the package GRUB2 seem
> >> not to include GRUB2.
> >>
> >> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/grub2/filelist
> >>
> >> But if you reinstall GRUB(1) there seem to be a script update-grub for
> >> it too.
> >>
> >> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/grub/filelist
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> > I could be misunderstanding, but if I've installed GRUB2, why would I
> > need to compile it?

Because GRUB2 isn't in the file list. Perhaps a dummy package for the
name GRUB2, while GRUB2 for Hardy might be in another package, that I
couldn't find with the package search.

> >
> > M.
> >
> >
> What I ended up doing was to update/grade the Xubuntu, then apt-get 
> install ubuntustudio-audio/video. Works like it should...
> 
> Mischa
> 

This are good news. I guess some package did run update-grub.

Cheers!

Ralf



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Re: Dual Boot Problem SOLVED

[mischa falkenburg]

On 11/09/2010 11:24 AM, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 15:19 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:06 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
>>>
>>>
 I've gone ahead and installed Grub2, did a reboot and still no sign of
 10.04.

  
>>> Hi Mischa :)
>>>
>>> open a terminal emulation and run
>>>
>>> sudo update-grub
>>>
>>> then reboot. Are there any new entries?
>>>
>>> Hth,
>>>
>>> Ralf
>>>
>>>
>> PS:
>>
>> Oops, for hardy you might need to compile GRUB2, the package GRUB2 seem
>> not to include GRUB2.
>>
>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/grub2/filelist
>>
>> But if you reinstall GRUB(1) there seem to be a script update-grub for
>> it too.
>>
>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/grub/filelist
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
> I could be misunderstanding, but if I've installed GRUB2, why would I
> need to compile it?
>
> M.
>
>
What I ended up doing was to update/grade the Xubuntu, then apt-get 
install ubuntustudio-audio/video. Works like it should...

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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[mischa falkenburg]

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:06 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
>   
>> I've gone ahead and installed Grub2, did a reboot and still no sign of 
>> 10.04.
>> 
>
> Hi Mischa :)
>
> open a terminal emulation and run
>
> sudo update-grub
>
> then reboot. Are there any new entries?
>
> Hth,
>
> Ralf
>
>
>
>   
No change.

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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[mischa falkenburg]

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 15:19 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>   
>> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:06 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
>> 
>>> I've gone ahead and installed Grub2, did a reboot and still no sign of 
>>> 10.04.
>>>   
>> Hi Mischa :)
>>
>> open a terminal emulation and run
>>
>> sudo update-grub
>>
>> then reboot. Are there any new entries?
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Ralf
>> 
>
> PS:
>
> Oops, for hardy you might need to compile GRUB2, the package GRUB2 seem
> not to include GRUB2.
>
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/grub2/filelist
>
> But if you reinstall GRUB(1) there seem to be a script update-grub for
> it too.
>
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/grub/filelist
>
>
>
>   
I could be misunderstanding, but if I've installed GRUB2, why would I 
need to compile it?

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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 15:19 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:06 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> > I've gone ahead and installed Grub2, did a reboot and still no sign of 
> > 10.04.
> 
> Hi Mischa :)
> 
> open a terminal emulation and run
> 
> sudo update-grub
> 
> then reboot. Are there any new entries?
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Ralf

PS:

Oops, for hardy you might need to compile GRUB2, the package GRUB2 seem
not to include GRUB2.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/grub2/filelist

But if you reinstall GRUB(1) there seem to be a script update-grub for
it too.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/grub/filelist



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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 11:06 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> I've gone ahead and installed Grub2, did a reboot and still no sign of 
> 10.04.

Hi Mischa :)

open a terminal emulation and run

sudo update-grub

then reboot. Are there any new entries?

Hth,

Ralf



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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[mischa falkenburg]

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> [snip]
>   
>> > (copying the info from ...grub isn't "behaving", but
>> just from
>> > my
>> > looking at .../menu.lst, all that's listed are two
>> different
>> > 8.04 LTS
>> > kernels:
>> >
>> > 2.6.24-28-generic
>> > &
>> > 2.6.24-19-generic
>> >
>> > Nothing in the file about 10.04...,
>> >
>> > I also don't see a file for .../menu.cfg , is that
>> supposed to
>> > be in the
>> > Grub folder?
>> >
>> > Mischa
>> 
> [snip]
>   
>>  grub1 was installed with the 8.04 version... then, GRUB2 is installed
>> with the 10.04 version.. SO basically what i am assuming is currently
>> installed on the computer is this configuration, a 10.04 GRUB2 install
>> that is not finding the 8.04 version and booting it... is this
>> correct??
>> 
>
> IIUC he just looked at the /boot/grub/menu.lst of his outdated GRUB, he
> might or might not have a /boot/grub/menu.cfg on another partition, but 
> obviously he gets those Xubuntu 8.04 kernels when pressing Esc.
>
> @ Mischa, usually there is just a menu.lst or just a menu.cfg in the
> path /boot/grub. You might have more, but one partition ;).
>
>
>
>   
I've gone ahead and installed Grub2, did a reboot and still no sign of 
10.04.
I guess it's time to re-install. Should I go through the 9.__'s, or just 
make the jump to 10.04?

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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

[snip]
> > (copying the info from ...grub isn't "behaving", but
> just from
> > my
> > looking at .../menu.lst, all that's listed are two
> different
> > 8.04 LTS
> > kernels:
> >
> > 2.6.24-28-generic
> > &
> > 2.6.24-19-generic
> >
> > Nothing in the file about 10.04...,
> >
> > I also don't see a file for .../menu.cfg , is that
> supposed to
> > be in the
> > Grub folder?
> >
> > Mischa
[snip]
>  grub1 was installed with the 8.04 version... then, GRUB2 is installed
> with the 10.04 version.. SO basically what i am assuming is currently
> installed on the computer is this configuration, a 10.04 GRUB2 install
> that is not finding the 8.04 version and booting it... is this
> correct??

IIUC he just looked at the /boot/grub/menu.lst of his outdated GRUB, he
might or might not have a /boot/grub/menu.cfg on another partition, but 
obviously he gets those Xubuntu 8.04 kernels when pressing Esc.

@ Mischa, usually there is just a menu.lst or just a menu.cfg in the
path /boot/grub. You might have more, but one partition ;).



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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[mischa falkenburg]

Mike Holstein wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Ralf Mardorf 
> mailto:ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net>> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 09:53 -0500, Mike Holstein wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:37 AM, mischa falkenburg
> >  > wrote:
> >
> > Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 07:28 -0500, mischa falkenburg
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 09:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  PS:
> > 
> >  For GRUB there should be a line
> > 
> >  timeout 8
> > 
> >  and for GRUB2 there should be the lines
> > 
> >  if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
> >    set timeout=-1
> >  else
> >    set timeout=10
> >  fi
> > 
> >  or similar.
> > 
> >  AFAIK the numbers for the timeouts are seconds.
> > 
> >  Hth,
> > 
> >  Ralf
> > 
> > 
> > >>> PS, pardon:
> > >>>
> > >>> You might use GRUB2 and you perhaps has got an issue
> > regarding to a
> > >>> recordfail.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> HI Ralf, thanks for your many responses.
> > >>
> > >> As you can see from what I've written Ronan, there may be
> > more going on
> > >> here rather than not seeing anything (initially).
> > >> Did the install of UbuStu 10.04 happen or not?
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts?
> > >>
> > >> Mischa
> > >>
> > >
> > > With a live cd or from the Linux that can be booted copy
> > >
> > > /boot/grub/menu.lst
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > /boot/grub/menu.cfg
> > >
> > > to an email to the list. I guess just the menu entries are
> > missing.
> > >
> > > Take a look at all partitions. If there are folders
> /boot on
> > some
> > > partitions there should be the kernels. For any kernel
> there
> > has to be
> > > an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, for
> /boot/grub/menu.cfg it
> > can be a
> > > little bit complicated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > (copying the info from ...grub isn't "behaving", but
> just from
> > my
> > looking at .../menu.lst, all that's listed are two different
> > 8.04 LTS
> > kernels:
> >
> > 2.6.24-28-generic
> > &
> > 2.6.24-19-generic
> >
> > Nothing in the file about 10.04...,
> >
> > I also don't see a file for .../menu.cfg , is that
> supposed to
> > be in the
> > Grub folder?
> >
> > Mischa
> >
> >
> >
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> > i think it would have been a good idea to get the older install
> (8.04)
> > up to GRUB2, then install the 10.04 (with GRUB2). i would try
> reading
> > over the GRUB2 wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 ,
> > also maybe
> > this
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
> >
> >
> > i have used http://gag.sourceforge.net/ in the past, you could
> try it
> > or another 3rd party bootloader and see if you can find your OS's...
> > good luck
>
> Hm? I guess we could help him with GRUB too, anyway, GRUB2 isn't that
> bad for such a situation.
>
> After installing GRUB2 it's always possible to
> run /usr/sbin/update-grub, which will execute grub-mkconfig, hence a
> menu list with every possible kernel will be generated, if wanted or
> unwanted ;). It's still possible that some entries are bad, but at
> least
> everything is added.
>
> Maybe a good idea to switch to GRUB2, because it's the default
> bootloader for newer Ubuntu.
>
> - Ralf
>
>
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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Mike Holstein]

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 09:53 -0500, Mike Holstein wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:37 AM, mischa falkenburg
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 07:28 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 09:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  PS:
> > 
> >  For GRUB there should be a line
> > 
> >  timeout 8
> > 
> >  and for GRUB2 there should be the lines
> > 
> >  if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
> >    set timeout=-1
> >  else
> >    set timeout=10
> >  fi
> > 
> >  or similar.
> > 
> >  AFAIK the numbers for the timeouts are seconds.
> > 
> >  Hth,
> > 
> >  Ralf
> > 
> > 
> > >>> PS, pardon:
> > >>>
> > >>> You might use GRUB2 and you perhaps has got an issue
> > regarding to a
> > >>> recordfail.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> HI Ralf, thanks for your many responses.
> > >>
> > >> As you can see from what I've written Ronan, there may be
> > more going on
> > >> here rather than not seeing anything (initially).
> > >> Did the install of UbuStu 10.04 happen or not?
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts?
> > >>
> > >> Mischa
> > >>
> > >
> > > With a live cd or from the Linux that can be booted copy
> > >
> > > /boot/grub/menu.lst
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > /boot/grub/menu.cfg
> > >
> > > to an email to the list. I guess just the menu entries are
> > missing.
> > >
> > > Take a look at all partitions. If there are folders /boot on
> > some
> > > partitions there should be the kernels. For any kernel there
> > has to be
> > > an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, for /boot/grub/menu.cfg it
> > can be a
> > > little bit complicated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > (copying the info from ...grub isn't "behaving", but just from
> > my
> > looking at .../menu.lst, all that's listed are two different
> > 8.04 LTS
> > kernels:
> >
> > 2.6.24-28-generic
> > &
> > 2.6.24-19-generic
> >
> > Nothing in the file about 10.04...,
> >
> > I also don't see a file for .../menu.cfg , is that supposed to
> > be in the
> > Grub folder?
> >
> > Mischa
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > i think it would have been a good idea to get the older install (8.04)
> > up to GRUB2, then install the 10.04 (with GRUB2). i would try reading
> > over the GRUB2 wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 ,
> > also maybe
> > this
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
> >
> >
> > i have used http://gag.sourceforge.net/ in the past, you could try it
> > or another 3rd party bootloader and see if you can find your OS's...
> > good luck
>
> Hm? I guess we could help him with GRUB too, anyway, GRUB2 isn't that
> bad for such a situation.
>
> After installing GRUB2 it's always possible to
> run /usr/sbin/update-grub, which will execute grub-mkconfig, hence a
> menu list with every possible kernel will be generated, if wanted or
> unwanted ;). It's still possible that some entries are bad, but at least
> everything is added.
>
> Maybe a good idea to switch to GRUB2, because it's the default
> bootloader for newer Ubuntu.
>
> - Ralf
>
>
>
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im not suggesting that we wont help with grub1, what im saying is... grub1
was installed with the 8.04 version... then, GRUB2 is installed with the
10.04 version.. SO basically what i am assuming is currently installed on
the computer is this configuration, a 10.04 GRUB2 install that is not
finding the 8.04 version and booting it... is this correct??

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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 09:53 -0500, Mike Holstein wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:37 AM, mischa falkenburg
>  wrote:
> 
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 07:28 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> >
> >> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 09:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  PS:
> 
>  For GRUB there should be a line
> 
>  timeout 8
> 
>  and for GRUB2 there should be the lines
> 
>  if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
>    set timeout=-1
>  else
>    set timeout=10
>  fi
> 
>  or similar.
> 
>  AFAIK the numbers for the timeouts are seconds.
> 
>  Hth,
> 
>  Ralf
> 
> 
> >>> PS, pardon:
> >>>
> >>> You might use GRUB2 and you perhaps has got an issue
> regarding to a
> >>> recordfail.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> HI Ralf, thanks for your many responses.
> >>
> >> As you can see from what I've written Ronan, there may be
> more going on
> >> here rather than not seeing anything (initially).
> >> Did the install of UbuStu 10.04 happen or not?
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Mischa
> >>
> >
> > With a live cd or from the Linux that can be booted copy
> >
> > /boot/grub/menu.lst
> >
> > or
> >
> > /boot/grub/menu.cfg
> >
> > to an email to the list. I guess just the menu entries are
> missing.
> >
> > Take a look at all partitions. If there are folders /boot on
> some
> > partitions there should be the kernels. For any kernel there
> has to be
> > an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, for /boot/grub/menu.cfg it
> can be a
> > little bit complicated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> (copying the info from ...grub isn't "behaving", but just from
> my
> looking at .../menu.lst, all that's listed are two different
> 8.04 LTS
> kernels:
> 
> 2.6.24-28-generic
> &
> 2.6.24-19-generic
> 
> Nothing in the file about 10.04...,
> 
> I also don't see a file for .../menu.cfg , is that supposed to
> be in the
> Grub folder?
> 
> Mischa
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> i think it would have been a good idea to get the older install (8.04)
> up to GRUB2, then install the 10.04 (with GRUB2). i would try reading
> over the GRUB2 wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 ,
> also maybe
> this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows 
> 
> 
> i have used http://gag.sourceforge.net/ in the past, you could try it
> or another 3rd party bootloader and see if you can find your OS's...
> good luck

Hm? I guess we could help him with GRUB too, anyway, GRUB2 isn't that
bad for such a situation.

After installing GRUB2 it's always possible to
run /usr/sbin/update-grub, which will execute grub-mkconfig, hence a
menu list with every possible kernel will be generated, if wanted or
unwanted ;). It's still possible that some entries are bad, but at least
everything is added.

Maybe a good idea to switch to GRUB2, because it's the default
bootloader for newer Ubuntu.

- Ralf



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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Mike Holstein]

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:37 AM, mischa falkenburg <
because_producti...@myfairpoint.net> wrote:

> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 07:28 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> >
> >> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 09:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  PS:
> 
>  For GRUB there should be a line
> 
>  timeout 8
> 
>  and for GRUB2 there should be the lines
> 
>  if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
>    set timeout=-1
>  else
>    set timeout=10
>  fi
> 
>  or similar.
> 
>  AFAIK the numbers for the timeouts are seconds.
> 
>  Hth,
> 
>  Ralf
> 
> 
> >>> PS, pardon:
> >>>
> >>> You might use GRUB2 and you perhaps has got an issue regarding to a
> >>> recordfail.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> HI Ralf, thanks for your many responses.
> >>
> >> As you can see from what I've written Ronan, there may be more going on
> >> here rather than not seeing anything (initially).
> >> Did the install of UbuStu 10.04 happen or not?
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Mischa
> >>
> >
> > With a live cd or from the Linux that can be booted copy
> >
> > /boot/grub/menu.lst
> >
> > or
> >
> > /boot/grub/menu.cfg
> >
> > to an email to the list. I guess just the menu entries are missing.
> >
> > Take a look at all partitions. If there are folders /boot on some
> > partitions there should be the kernels. For any kernel there has to be
> > an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, for /boot/grub/menu.cfg it can be a
> > little bit complicated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> (copying the info from ...grub isn't "behaving", but just from my
> looking at .../menu.lst, all that's listed are two different 8.04 LTS
> kernels:
>
> 2.6.24-28-generic
> &
> 2.6.24-19-generic
>
> Nothing in the file about 10.04...,
>
> I also don't see a file for .../menu.cfg , is that supposed to be in the
> Grub folder?
>
> Mischa
>
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i think it would have been a good idea to get the older install (8.04) up to
GRUB2, then install the 10.04 (with GRUB2). i would try reading over the
GRUB2 wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 , also maybe this
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows

i have used http://gag.sourceforge.net/ in the past, you could try it or
another 3rd party bootloader and see if you can find your OS's... good luck

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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[mischa falkenburg]

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 07:28 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
>   
>> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 09:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 PS:

 For GRUB there should be a line

 timeout 8

 and for GRUB2 there should be the lines

 if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
   set timeout=-1
 else
   set timeout=10
 fi

 or similar.

 AFAIK the numbers for the timeouts are seconds.

 Hth,

 Ralf
 
 
>>> PS, pardon:
>>>
>>> You might use GRUB2 and you perhaps has got an issue regarding to a
>>> recordfail.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> HI Ralf, thanks for your many responses.
>>
>> As you can see from what I've written Ronan, there may be more going on 
>> here rather than not seeing anything (initially).
>> Did the install of UbuStu 10.04 happen or not?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Mischa
>> 
>
> With a live cd or from the Linux that can be booted copy
>
> /boot/grub/menu.lst
>
> or
>
> /boot/grub/menu.cfg
>
> to an email to the list. I guess just the menu entries are missing.
>
> Take a look at all partitions. If there are folders /boot on some
> partitions there should be the kernels. For any kernel there has to be
> an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, for /boot/grub/menu.cfg it can be a
> little bit complicated.
>
>
>
>   
(copying the info from ...grub isn't "behaving", but just from my 
looking at .../menu.lst, all that's listed are two different 8.04 LTS 
kernels:

2.6.24-28-generic
&
2.6.24-19-generic

Nothing in the file about 10.04...,

I also don't see a file for .../menu.cfg , is that supposed to be in the 
Grub folder?

Mischa


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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 07:28 -0500, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 09:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >   
> >> PS:
> >>
> >> For GRUB there should be a line
> >>
> >> timeout 8
> >>
> >> and for GRUB2 there should be the lines
> >>
> >> if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
> >>   set timeout=-1
> >> else
> >>   set timeout=10
> >> fi
> >>
> >> or similar.
> >>
> >> AFAIK the numbers for the timeouts are seconds.
> >>
> >> Hth,
> >>
> >> Ralf
> >> 
> >
> > PS, pardon:
> >
> > You might use GRUB2 and you perhaps has got an issue regarding to a
> > recordfail.
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> HI Ralf, thanks for your many responses.
> 
> As you can see from what I've written Ronan, there may be more going on 
> here rather than not seeing anything (initially).
> Did the install of UbuStu 10.04 happen or not?
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Mischa

With a live cd or from the Linux that can be booted copy

/boot/grub/menu.lst

or

/boot/grub/menu.cfg

to an email to the list. I guess just the menu entries are missing.

Take a look at all partitions. If there are folders /boot on some
partitions there should be the kernels. For any kernel there has to be
an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, for /boot/grub/menu.cfg it can be a
little bit complicated.



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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[mischa falkenburg]

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 09:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>   
>> PS:
>>
>> For GRUB there should be a line
>>
>> timeout 8
>>
>> and for GRUB2 there should be the lines
>>
>> if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
>>   set timeout=-1
>> else
>>   set timeout=10
>> fi
>>
>> or similar.
>>
>> AFAIK the numbers for the timeouts are seconds.
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>> Ralf
>> 
>
> PS, pardon:
>
> You might use GRUB2 and you perhaps has got an issue regarding to a
> recordfail.
>
>
>
>   
HI Ralf, thanks for your many responses.

As you can see from what I've written Ronan, there may be more going on 
here rather than not seeing anything (initially).
Did the install of UbuStu 10.04 happen or not?

Thoughts?

Mischa

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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[mischa falkenburg]

Ronan Jouchet wrote:
> Hello Mischa,
>
> The menu may be hidden. Try hitting/holding shift during the boot 
> process, this could make the GRUB menu appear.
>
> Then, to solve the problem and change which system booted by default,
>   1. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto and 
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 . From your description, you 
> should have Grub1, but be sure of it.
>   2. Then depending on your Grub version you'll have to adjust a 
> menu.lst or a grub.cfg and run some grub-update like commands. Again, 
> see the wiki which has detailed instructions.
>
> Tell us whether this helped and if you have additional questions. Also 
> for such issues, IRC can be a great place for more interactive help, in 
> #ubuntu or #ubuntustudio on irc.freenode.net . Good luck!
>
> Ronan
>
> On 10-11-05 08:27 AM, mischa falkenburg wrote:
>   
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I had a "cobbled together" box that has been running Xubuntu 8.04.1 just
>> fine.
>> The hard drive is large enough that I tried to install UbuStu 10.04
>> .iso...install went "flawlessly", meaning that 10.04 detected the 8.04
>> system and that there should be no problem with the MBR.
>> Upon reboot Grub initializes but goes directly to the 8.04 instead of
>> showing my a choice between the two.
>> Is there some file I need to modify, or what?
>>
>> Thanks-in-advance,
>>
>> Mischa
>>
>> 
>
>   
Hi Ronan, thanks for your response.
The shift key didn't do it, but the ESC key did.
To my surprise, all that showed were 2 different kernals for 
Xubuntu...no sign of Studio.
Is it possible for me to "see" if it's really there (doesn't show up 
under Places) other than using System Rescue disk?

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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 09:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> PS:
> 
> For GRUB there should be a line
> 
> timeout 8
> 
> and for GRUB2 there should be the lines
> 
> if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
>   set timeout=-1
> else
>   set timeout=10
> fi
> 
> or similar.
> 
> AFAIK the numbers for the timeouts are seconds.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Ralf

PS, pardon:

You might use GRUB2 and you perhaps has got an issue regarding to a
recordfail.



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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 20:16 -0400, Ronan Jouchet wrote:
> and run some grub-update

PPS: Oops, of cause, you also need the correct entries to boot the
kernels, but I'm not fine with this automation, because it will add
outdated menus too, resp. it will add backups too.


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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

PS:

For GRUB there should be a line

timeout 8

and for GRUB2 there should be the lines

if [ ${recordfail} = 1 ]; then
  set timeout=-1
else
  set timeout=10
fi

or similar.

AFAIK the numbers for the timeouts are seconds.

Hth,

Ralf


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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 20:16 -0400, Ronan Jouchet wrote:

> Hello Mischa,
> 
> The menu may be hidden. Try hitting/holding shift during the boot 
> process, this could make the GRUB menu appear.
> 
> Then, to solve the problem and change which system booted by default,
>   1. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto and 
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 . From your description, you 
> should have Grub1, but be sure of it.
>   2. Then depending on your Grub version you'll have to adjust a 
> menu.lst or a grub.cfg and run some grub-update like commands. Again, 
> see the wiki which has detailed instructions.
> 
> Tell us whether this helped and if you have additional questions. Also 
> for such issues, IRC can be a great place for more interactive help, in 
> #ubuntu or #ubuntustudio on irc.freenode.net . Good luck!
> 
> Ronan


IOW take a look at the path '/boot/grub/'. There should be a menu.lst or
a grub.cfg.


If you're using GRUB2, as I unfortunately do, you should change 
/usr/sbin/update-grub to (something similar) as ...


#!/bin/sh -e
exec grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg_$(date +"%b-%d-%Y_%H-%M-%S")
"$@"

... if you don't do it, resp. you try to follow the idea of GRUB2 to use
all those 'special' files, you won't be able to configure and keep your
personal, customised menu.

Please post your /boot/grub/menu.lst or your /boot/grub/grub.cfg.

2 Cents,

Ralf


> 
> On 10-11-05 08:27 AM, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I had a "cobbled together" box that has been running Xubuntu 8.04.1 just
> > fine.
> > The hard drive is large enough that I tried to install UbuStu 10.04
> > .iso...install went "flawlessly", meaning that 10.04 detected the 8.04
> > system and that there should be no problem with the MBR.
> > Upon reboot Grub initializes but goes directly to the 8.04 instead of
> > showing my a choice between the two.
> > Is there some file I need to modify, or what?
> >
> > Thanks-in-advance,
> >
> > Mischa
> >
> 


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Re: Dual Boot Problem

[Ronan Jouchet]

Hello Mischa,

The menu may be hidden. Try hitting/holding shift during the boot 
process, this could make the GRUB menu appear.

Then, to solve the problem and change which system booted by default,
  1. Have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto and 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 . From your description, you 
should have Grub1, but be sure of it.
  2. Then depending on your Grub version you'll have to adjust a 
menu.lst or a grub.cfg and run some grub-update like commands. Again, 
see the wiki which has detailed instructions.

Tell us whether this helped and if you have additional questions. Also 
for such issues, IRC can be a great place for more interactive help, in 
#ubuntu or #ubuntustudio on irc.freenode.net . Good luck!

Ronan

On 10-11-05 08:27 AM, mischa falkenburg wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I had a "cobbled together" box that has been running Xubuntu 8.04.1 just
> fine.
> The hard drive is large enough that I tried to install UbuStu 10.04
> .iso...install went "flawlessly", meaning that 10.04 detected the 8.04
> system and that there should be no problem with the MBR.
> Upon reboot Grub initializes but goes directly to the 8.04 instead of
> showing my a choice between the two.
> Is there some file I need to modify, or what?
>
> Thanks-in-advance,
>
> Mischa
>

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