Re: [ubuntu-uk] NFS and NetworkManager
Peter Lewis wrote: snip So far as I can tell, my network connection is brought up when I log in to my Kubuntu box, through the network manager tray icon. This connects me to my wireless network. However, I have a couple of NFS shares, which are listed in fstab. They never get brought up automatically though, since during booting, the network is not up yet. I then have to do a 'sudo mount -a' to get them to come up *after* I've logged in. I'm sure it's not supposed to work like this. How do I get the network up earlier so that this isn't an issue? Pete Does your /etc/fstab refer to these shares by their full IP address on the LAN or by a share name? I use the LAN IP addresses, and my shares mount automatically when the wireless network is up. (Tho' I use Gnome rather than KDE). Don't know if the form of the addressing matters, but if it's a factor, it may be worth a quick test. I should say that the mounting of network shares (I use CIFS) is not perfect: it sometimes takes a while for them to mount; and sometimes they don't, and, like you, I need to do a sudo mount -a to get them up. But mostly they do come up when the wireless network becomes available. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NFS and NetworkManager
Pete, Peter Lewis wrote: Hi all, I've been living with this for a while, but it's starting to annoy me a little. I wonder if anyone can help. So far as I can tell, my network connection is brought up when I log in to my Kubuntu box, through the network manager tray icon. This connects me to my wireless network. However, I have a couple of NFS shares, which are listed in fstab. They never get brought up automatically though, since during booting, the network is not up yet. I then have to do a 'sudo mount -a' to get them to come up *after* I've logged in. I'm sure it's not supposed to work like this. How do I get the network up earlier so that this isn't an issue? Is this a desktop that always connects to the same Wireless Access Point? if so, you could manually configure the wireless (click on the network manager icon and select manual configuration). The wireless connection should come up at boot time then. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NFS and NetworkManager
On Sunday 02 December 2007 15:21:34 Tony Arnold wrote: Peter Lewis wrote: I've been living with this for a while, but it's starting to annoy me a little. I wonder if anyone can help. So far as I can tell, my network connection is brought up when I log in to my Kubuntu box, through the network manager tray icon. This connects me to my wireless network. However, I have a couple of NFS shares, which are listed in fstab. They never get brought up automatically though, since during booting, the network is not up yet. I then have to do a 'sudo mount -a' to get them to come up *after* I've logged in. I'm sure it's not supposed to work like this. How do I get the network up earlier so that this isn't an issue? Is this a desktop that always connects to the same Wireless Access Point? if so, you could manually configure the wireless (click on the network manager icon and select manual configuration). The wireless connection should come up at boot time then. Another good suggestion, thanks Tony. I've switched it over to a manual configuration (i.e. in /etc/network/interfaces) now, so will do a reboot and see what happens... Cheers, Pete. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NFS and NetworkManager
Hi Mac, On Sunday 02 December 2007 14:55:30 Mac wrote: Peter Lewis wrote: snip So far as I can tell, my network connection is brought up when I log in to my Kubuntu box, through the network manager tray icon. This connects me to my wireless network. However, I have a couple of NFS shares, which are listed in fstab. They never get brought up automatically though, since during booting, the network is not up yet. I then have to do a 'sudo mount -a' to get them to come up *after* I've logged in. I'm sure it's not supposed to work like this. How do I get the network up earlier so that this isn't an issue? Pete Does your /etc/fstab refer to these shares by their full IP address on the LAN or by a share name? I use the LAN IP addresses, and my shares mount automatically when the wireless network is up. (Tho' I use Gnome rather than KDE). Don't know if the form of the addressing matters, but if it's a factor, it may be worth a quick test. They're listed in /etc/fstab using a hostname, but the hostname is directly listed in /etc/hosts, (it's only a small home network). So, I'm assuming that this is functionally equivalent to the IP itself being listed...? I should say that the mounting of network shares (I use CIFS) is not perfect: it sometimes takes a while for them to mount; and sometimes they don't, and, like you, I need to do a sudo mount -a to get them up. But mostly they do come up when the wireless network becomes available. I was using CIFS for a while, but realised when I did a reinstall of my server box that I don't use Windows any more, so switched to NFS (which seemed to handle permissions a little better from my perspective). It seems though that the choice of NFS vs CIFS wouldn't impact upon this. Your comment about them taking a while to mount made me think about time-outs a bit, so will try an experiment or two... and get back. Thanks! Cheers, Pete. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NFS and NetworkManager
Hi again folks, On Sunday 02 December 2007 14:55:30 Mac wrote: Pete Does your /etc/fstab refer to these shares by their full IP address on the LAN or by a share name? I use the LAN IP addresses, and my shares mount automatically when the wireless network is up. (Tho' I use Gnome rather than KDE). Don't know if the form of the addressing matters, but if it's a factor, it may be worth a quick test. I replied: Your comment about them taking a while to mount made me think about time-outs a bit, so will try an experiment or two... and get back. Thanks! On Sunday 02 December 2007 15:21:34 Tony Arnold wrote: Is this a desktop that always connects to the same Wireless Access Point? if so, you could manually configure the wireless (click on the network manager icon and select manual configuration). The wireless connection should come up at boot time then. I replied: Another good suggestion, thanks Tony. I've switched it over to a manual configuration (i.e. in /etc/network/interfaces) now, so will do a reboot and see what happens... Well, a combination of both seems to have fixed it. In summary, I switched the network to manual configuration, meaning that it got brought up during boot rather than at the behest of the tray icon once I'd logged in. I was also suffering I think since I was trying to mount three shares at once, and the server couldn't reply quick enough so that none of the three would time out. From what I've read NFS clients time out after a fixed period and then attempt to try again. I've increased the timout from 1.4 seconds to 3 seconds, and it seems to have done the trick. It took the last share a couple of minutes to become available, but did so by the time I logged in. Thanks for the thoughts! Pete. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to fix Gnome problem
Tom Bamford wrote: Mac wrote: Daniel Thanks for your reassuring advice. I've now tried the reconfig. Sad to say, I still get the 'Your session has been saved' message when I click the log out button; the proper log out screen does not appear; instead, the shutdown wav file plays, the screen clears to the desktop image, and then the log on screen reappears. Groundhog day! I have to do a Ctrl+Alt+F1, and issue the sudo shutdown 0 command to get to a point where I can turn the computer off. I think a reinstall may be the only solution. :-( Mac Before you nuke your system, have you tried adding a new user account and logging in and out with that? The problem may lie in your home directory files rather than 'in the system' somewhere. Regards, Tom Thanks for the suggestion. I confess I didn't get to try it, as was already having a go with Debian. Sadly, the install did not go smoothly, and I abandoned the project. But, prompted by Pete's suggestion, I looked again at Gutsy. I did a very careful, entirely-from-scratch download of the current iso, and was delighted to discover that the CD drive problem I'd experienced before on this Dell Inspiron 8200 had been resolved. So I've just installed Gutsy, which configured the Netgear WG511T wireless card instantly, and I'm now up and running again just fine. Thanks to everyone for giving their time and thought. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] no start up screen
When I switch my computer on the first thing I expect to see is a screen about Intel and from which, if I so wish, I can access the bios set up. Since installing Edubuntu this does not happen. All I get is a blank screen plus an error message complaining about the video support. This eventually changes to the usual signing on screen and there are no more complaints. When I boot using Windows XP I get the Intel screen as expected. I know that Edubuntu performs as it should and there are no complaints but I do like things to be correct. What can I do to try to identify the problem and then put it right? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] no start up screen
snip How odd, an edubuntu install shouldnt touch the bios... -- What makes you think the bios has been affected? The machine is set up to dual boot, boot from Windows, no problem, boot from Edubuntu, problem. For a time, this machine was Edubuntu only and the problem was there then. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] no start up screen
On 02/12/2007, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I switch my computer on the first thing I expect to see is a screen about Intel and from which, if I so wish, I can access the bios set up. Since installing Edubuntu this does not happen. All I get is a blank screen plus an error message complaining about the video support. This eventually changes to the usual signing on screen and there are no more complaints. When I boot using Windows XP I get the Intel screen as expected. I know that Edubuntu performs as it should and there are no complaints but I do like things to be correct. What can I do to try to identify the problem and then put it right? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ How odd, an edubuntu install shouldnt touch the bios... -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] no start up screen
norman wrote: When I switch my computer on the first thing I expect to see is a screen about Intel and from which, if I so wish, I can access the bios set up. Since installing Edubuntu this does not happen. All I get is a blank screen plus an error message complaining about the video support. This eventually changes to the usual signing on screen and there are no more complaints. When I boot using Windows XP I get the Intel screen as expected. I know that Edubuntu performs as it should and there are no complaints but I do like things to be correct. What can I do to try to identify the problem and then put it right? Norman If this after you select the OS from the Grub boot loader? I've seen something that might be similar on a Dell system with both on-board graphics and an ATI video card. If you plugged the monitor into the on-board graphics, it would come up with a message about not being connected to the right graphics card. Not sure if something like this is happening? Does the machine have on-board graphics? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] no start up screen
norman wrote: When I switch my computer on the first thing I expect to see is a screen about Intel and from which, if I so wish, I can access the bios set up. Since installing Edubuntu this does not happen. All I get is a blank screen plus an error message complaining about the video support. This eventually changes to the usual signing on screen and there are no more complaints. When I boot using Windows XP I get the Intel screen as expected. I know that Edubuntu performs as it should and there are no complaints but I do like things to be correct. What can I do to try to identify the problem and then put it right? Norman The symptoms you describe are strange in that the bios splash is affected, but a blank screen between booting and login could be down to usplash using an incorrect resolution. It should be set to the same as your X screen resolution at install time but I've had occasions where it's been set to something way beyond the graphics card and monitor capabilities on laptops and desktops. The setting is in /etc/usplash.conf. If you change it, you must run 'sudo update-initramfs -u' (no quotes) for it to take effect. Hope this helps Tom -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ham Radio Fldigi
Morning All, I have down loaded the Fldigi program from a web site. This is a digital radio decoder for radio hams. The file is a bin.tar.gz file, now resident on my desktop. I have unzipped it using the tar -xvzf filename bin tar .gz I have used the cd filename and the ./configure, make , sudo make install, mostly the response is this is not a directory. I am sorry for not giving you the actual response as the computer is in the radio shack at another location and there is no printer attached. My desktop is [EMAIL PROTECTED]/Desktop, obviously I am not entering the correct file string. Can some one help me with the dialogue I need to enter. I have also downloaded some amateur radio stuff using synaptic, now I cannot find the downloads. What do I have to do to install and create a desktop icon ? I am sorry to be so demanding but this is the area I do not understand properly. Many thanks for any help, John Davis -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
