Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
I'll second the powerline option. Haven't tried it myself but a friend has and works brilliant. I (living in Germany now) have a 32M cable internet connection. I was connected over wireless due to inconveniently located cable modem, but recently got off my read-end and wired a cable through the wall. My average download speed more than doubled (from 1.5MB/s to 3.3MB/s). Wireless is great, but if you can avoid it, then definitely do so! On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 23:47 +, Simon Wears wrote: I never thought about the powerline option. Running a cable to my room is a bit out the question though unfortunately. Powerline networking is something that would work nicely though, as from looking into wireless solutions a bit more I found that most wireless routers don't support network bridging. the Apple Airport extreme I was recommended seems to do everything I need, it's just quite pricey. Thanks for pointing that out, you may have saved me a small fortune! Simon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Or you could get a wireless router that can be flashed with a custom firmware; then you can use it as a network bridge. (the wireless acts as a client of the homehub and you bridge the wired segment with the wireless one) -- Robert Dorrian On 17 Dec 2008, at 23:47, Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com wrote: I never thought about the powerline option. Running a cable to my room is a bit out the question though unfortunately. Powerline networking is something that would work nicely though, as from looking into wireless solutions a bit more I found that most wireless routers don't support network bridging. the Apple Airport extreme I was recommended seems to do everything I need, it's just quite pricey. Thanks for pointing that out, you may have saved me a small fortune! Simon 2008/12/17 Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk On 17 Dec 2008 at 21:08, Simon Wears wrote: Hey all! I've been thinking about what I'm going to do network-wise when I get home from university, since I was the only one still using a wired connection in the house, when I left they got a BT homehub so the house is now fully wireless. This is a problem for me - I used to have a phone line in my room for the internet (it was deemed necessary when we were on dial-up, I was never off the net), but the hub is now on our 'home' line, with the only socket being downstairs. So, it can't be moved upstairs for me - and running a cable upstairs isn't an option either. I have too many networked devices to upgrade them all to wireless (plus I prefer wired stuff), so I'm looking for a router that has both wireless N and gigabit ethernet ports. The catch is, it needs to be able to connect to the homehub, so the router acts as a wired router in my room, but also has a wireless link to the homehub, and the interweb. Anyone know of anything which may be able to help? A friend suggested Apple's Airport extreme base station ( http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MB053?mco=Mjg4NjM1Mw) but I though I'd ask if anyone knew of anything that may be able to fix my problem better. This isn't too much of an issue at the moment, since I'm living in university accommodation, and MMU network administers seem to frown upon having multiple PC's connected. I'm just thinking ahead a few months. Cheers, Simon. Possible solution is to use Powerline (or similar) adapters to carry the network across the mains from a point near the Home Hub (all versions have at least 2 ethernet ports) to a point in your bedroom, then have a cheap router to connect all your kit in the bedroom. Or, if it's possible, just run ethernet cable from the Home Hub to your room. Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Michael Holloway wrote: I'll second the powerline option. Haven't tried it myself but a friend has and works brilliant. I (living in Germany now) have a 32M cable internet connection. I was connected over wireless due to inconveniently located cable modem, but recently got off my read-end and wired a cable through the wall. My average download speed more than doubled (from 1.5MB/s to 3.3MB/s). Wireless is great, but if you can avoid it, then definitely do so! A friend of mine has the 85MBit powerline ethernet, cost about £30 for a pair of adaptors from eBay and it works lovely with his Virgin broadband (his router is at the top of the house and his modem is in the dining room at the bottom of the house). He only actually gets something like 15Mbit/sec usable speed through it but his broadband is only 2 Meg anyway. He's going to get another couple of adaptors for his XBOX and kids PC. Not sure about the 200Mbit powerline ethernet adaptors, I'd presume you'd get nearer to 50Mbit/sec out of them. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyone know of anything which may be able to help? A friend suggested Apple's Airport extreme base station ( http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MB053?mco=Mjg4NjM1Mw) but I though I'd ask if anyone knew of anything that may be able to fix my problem better. Do you need a full-on router? (ie. firewall, NAT, built in switch etc) If not, an Apple Express base station would do the job if all you need to do is bridge the wireless back to wired. Not sure if you'd be able to configure either from Ubuntu though (there's no web interface). Another alternative would be the ethernet-over-mains boxes. IME (Zyxel PLA-401) they work very well. This isn't too much of an issue at the moment, since I'm living in university accommodation, and MMU network administers seem to frown upon having multiple PC's connected. I'm just thinking ahead a few months. Which I guess means NAT would be useful...? HTH, Jim -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Personally I'd do the power line - it's simple. Amazon sell them at £39.99 if you don't trust e-bay. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Highspeed-Professional-Powerline-Compliant-Playstation/dp/B001AM7NYI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1229601329sr=8-3 Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
2008/12/18 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: Personally I'd do the power line - it's simple. Another +1 for powerline. I actually use mine in two ways with 4 develo devices although of course you can use 2 as a minimum. I have one attached to the switch near the cable modem. Another is in the kitchen attached to a laptop which has no wireless adapter. A third is in the lounge attached to a Fon wifi access point so that I get a really good signal in that part of the house. The last is a 'spare' one that I sometimes use with my laptop when I have large files to transfer but can't be arsed to walk to the den :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Sean, Sean Miller wrote: Personally I'd do the power line - it's simple. Amazon sell them at £39.99 if you don't trust e-bay. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Highspeed-Professional-Powerline-Compliant-Playstation/dp/B001AM7NYI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1229601329sr=8-3 Do these things only work in pairs? Can you add more later on? Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Alan, Alan Pope wrote: 2008/12/18 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: Personally I'd do the power line - it's simple. Another +1 for powerline. I actually use mine in two ways with 4 develo devices although of course you can use 2 as a minimum. I have one attached to the switch near the cable modem. Another is in the kitchen attached to a laptop which has no wireless adapter. A third is in the lounge attached to a Fon wifi access point so that I get a really good signal in that part of the house. The last is a 'spare' one that I sometimes use with my laptop when I have large files to transfer but can't be arsed to walk to the den :) That's answered my question to Sean, but you seem to have to buy these things in pairs. Is that the case? Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Tony Arnold wrote: Alan, Alan Pope wrote: 2008/12/18 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: Personally I'd do the power line - it's simple. Another +1 for powerline. I actually use mine in two ways with 4 develo devices although of course you can use 2 as a minimum. I have one attached to the switch near the cable modem. Another is in the kitchen attached to a laptop which has no wireless adapter. A third is in the lounge attached to a Fon wifi access point so that I get a really good signal in that part of the house. The last is a 'spare' one that I sometimes use with my laptop when I have large files to transfer but can't be arsed to walk to the den :) That's answered my question to Sean, but you seem to have to buy these things in pairs. Is that the case? Regards, Tony. You should be able to buy them in single units, possibly from online e-tailers such as eBuyer or Aria.co.uk. My friend who got a pair got them from eBay but they were also available as single units too (although you'd need the minimum of 2 to start with to make the network). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: That's answered my question to Sean, but you seem to have to buy these things in pairs. Is that the case? No. But to start they're obviously better value in pairs!! Try this link... http://www.faculty-x.net/homeplugs%20at%20a%20glance.htm?gclid=CLPP9PahypcCFQKKMAodpneBRw Some options there :-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
Afternoon all, We have a server (off site) at work that was intially set up with a single user (root). We've created a day-to-day user for logging into the machine, which we do over ssh. My question is, the new user doesn't seem to have any of the 'basics', e.g. tab completion, or arrow keys to navigate history. Any ideas why this may be? TIA Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
Quoting Stephen Garton sheepeating...@gmail.com: Afternoon all, We have a server (off site) at work that was intially set up with a single user (root). We've created a day-to-day user for logging into the machine, which we do over ssh. My question is, the new user doesn't seem to have any of the 'basics', e.g. tab completion, or arrow keys to navigate history. Any ideas why this may be? Generally an issue with either /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc If you edit the versions of .bash_profile and .bashrc in /etc/skel then any new users will be given the functionality. Edit the current .bash_profile and .bashrc for the user you're having issues with and you should see the same result! HTH, M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
Stephen Garton wrote: SNIP the new user doesn't seem to have any of the 'basics', e.g. tab completion, or arrow keys to navigate history. Any ideas why this may be? SNIP Hi Stephen, The most obvious reason I can think that would cause this, is adding a new user using useradd rather than the more useful adduser. Can you confirm how the user was added? Kind Regards, Dave Walker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
2008/12/18 Dave Walker davewal...@ubuntu.com: snip The most obvious reason I can think that would cause this, is adding a new user using useradd rather than the more useful adduser. Can you confirm how the user was added? Dave, I'm afraid I can't at the moment, the person who set it up has gone away for christmas! cheers Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
2008/12/18 Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk: Generally an issue with either /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc If you edit the versions of .bash_profile and .bashrc in /etc/skel then any new users will be given the functionality. Edit the current .bash_profile and .bashrc for the user you're having issues with and you should see the same result! HTH, M. -- Cheers, it would appear on inspection that the user *doesn't have* a .bash_profile or .bashrc! Would there be any issues if I just scp'd my laptops versions of these files into the remote users ~/? Cheers Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
2008/12/18 Stephen Garton sheepeating...@gmail.com: 2008/12/18 Dave Walker davewal...@ubuntu.com: snip The most obvious reason I can think that would cause this, is adding a new user using useradd rather than the more useful adduser. Can you confirm how the user was added? Dave, I'm afraid I can't at the moment, the person who set it up has gone away for christmas! To see if this was the problem (and maybe fix it) you could do: $ cp -r /etc/skel/* ~ as the user in question. That will copy the contents of /etc/skel, such as .bashrc, across into the user's home directory. If Daviey was right about this source of the problem this may solve it. -- Graham Binns | PGP Key: 4DAD18FA -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
2008/12/18 Stephen Garton sheepeating...@gmail.com: 2008/12/18 Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk: Generally an issue with either /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc If you edit the versions of .bash_profile and .bashrc in /etc/skel then any new users will be given the functionality. Edit the current .bash_profile and .bashrc for the user you're having issues with and you should see the same result! HTH, M. -- Cheers, it would appear on inspection that the user *doesn't have* a .bash_profile or .bashrc! Would there be any issues if I just scp'd my laptops versions of these files into the remote users ~/? Argh! Messages crossed in the air. My cp -r /etc/skel/* was wrong, too, since it won't copy the .files you need. However, you can get the default versions of .bashrc and .bash_profile from /etc/skel, rather than scp-ing your own to the server. -- Graham Binns | PGP Key: 4DAD18FA -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
Quoting Stephen Garton sheepeating...@gmail.com: 2008/12/18 Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk: Generally an issue with either /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc If you edit the versions of .bash_profile and .bashrc in /etc/skel then any new users will be given the functionality. Edit the current .bash_profile and .bashrc for the user you're having issues with and you should see the same result! HTH, M. -- Cheers, it would appear on inspection that the user *doesn't have* a .bash_profile or .bashrc! Would there be any issues if I just scp'd my laptops versions of these files into the remote users ~/? I can't see why that wouldn't work - just check there's no machine-specific stuff in the copies on your laptop (session variables etc) and go for it. Failing that, just copy from /etc/skel to ~ on the server (assuming that the files exist in /etc/skel!) M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [ubuntu-marketing] marketing ubuntu in Nigeria
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Adewunmi Adebolatan aaadewu...@yahoo.comwrote: Nigeria is an emerging Market with a lot of potentials. I have started to market the Operating System here in Nigeria. I will be needing some financial assistance to enable me reach a wider audience. Is there any help I can get here? Adebolatan Adewunmi; B.sc,CCNP,MCP www.opensourcenet.com.ng In a strange co-incidence I also received another email from Nigeria today asking for financial assistance. It was from a lady who wanted me to hold on to a few million pounds for her. She had to escape from the country due to a set of unfortunate circumstances. She said in return that she would give me a million pounds! I'm still pondering it ;-) If you are being serious though, there isn't really a 'pot of cash' for people to dip into to promote open source software, but Ruben has given you some great pointers to take away with you. If you are thinking of setting up Nigeria's first Ubuntu LoCo then the very best of luck to you, and please write back to us so that we know how you're getting along, so that we can help you all we can! Good luck. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Sean, Sean Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: That's answered my question to Sean, but you seem to have to buy these things in pairs. Is that the case? No. But to start they're obviously better value in pairs!! Try this link... http://www.faculty-x.net/homeplugs%20at%20a%20glance.htm?gclid=CLPP9PahypcCFQKKMAodpneBRw Some options there :-) What a great site! Thanks. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
Thanks for all the help so far! the user now has a .bashrc and a .profile (copied from /etc/skel) 2008/12/18 Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk: As well as the advice about bashrc etc., I would also check that the user has the right shell. Login and type 'echo $SHELL' and make sure that is bash or dash. It would appear that the user is setup wrong, as this returns /bin/sh. I do also have root access, and logging in as root (which has a 'normal' activity) returns /bin/bash. How does one change this? You also want to see what the terminal type is set to. Type 'echo $TERM'. If that is set to something like 'dumb' then you may not get some of the nice features you are looking for. both user and root return xterm BTW, what do you get echoed when you press the arrow keys? Nothing or some random text? Up arrow gives ^[[A, down ^[[B Thanks again! Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
Steve, Stephen Garton wrote: Thanks for all the help so far! the user now has a .bashrc and a .profile (copied from /etc/skel) 2008/12/18 Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk: As well as the advice about bashrc etc., I would also check that the user has the right shell. Login and type 'echo $SHELL' and make sure that is bash or dash. It would appear that the user is setup wrong, as this returns /bin/sh. I do also have root access, and logging in as root (which has a 'normal' activity) returns /bin/bash. How does one change this? That would explain the lack of history recall etc. As root use the chsh command. Check the man page before proceeding, but 'chsh username' will then prompt you to choose a suitable shell. You also want to see what the terminal type is set to. Type 'echo $TERM'. If that is set to something like 'dumb' then you may not get some of the nice features you are looking for. both user and root return xterm That's fine. BTW, what do you get echoed when you press the arrow keys? Nothing or some random text? Up arrow gives ^[[A, down ^[[B Changing the shell should fix this. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Get me off this list please! My mailbox can't cope! -Original Message- From: Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk Sent: 18 December 2008 12:24 To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers Sean, Sean Miller wrote: Personally I'd do the power line - it's simple. Amazon sell them at £39.99 if you don't trust e-bay. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Highspeed-Professional-Powerline-Compliant-Playstation/dp/B001AM7NYI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1229601329sr=8-3 Do these things only work in pairs? Can you add more later on? Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
2008/12/18 Sean Farley s...@seanfarley.biz: Get me off this list please! My mailbox can't cope! There is a link at the bottom of every mail (including this one) detailing where you go to unsubscribe. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server interface
2008/12/18 Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk: Steve, Stephen Garton wrote: Thanks for all the help so far! the user now has a .bashrc and a .profile (copied from /etc/skel) 2008/12/18 Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk: As well as the advice about bashrc etc., I would also check that the user has the right shell. Login and type 'echo $SHELL' and make sure that is bash or dash. It would appear that the user is setup wrong, as this returns /bin/sh. I do also have root access, and logging in as root (which has a 'normal' activity) returns /bin/bash. How does one change this? That would explain the lack of history recall etc. As root use the chsh command. Check the man page before proceeding, but 'chsh username' will then prompt you to choose a suitable shell. You also want to see what the terminal type is set to. Type 'echo $TERM'. If that is set to something like 'dumb' then you may not get some of the nice features you are looking for. both user and root return xterm That's fine. BTW, what do you get echoed when you press the arrow keys? Nothing or some random text? Up arrow gives ^[[A, down ^[[B Changing the shell should fix this. Regards, Tony. Thanks very much to all, works like a charm, and I learnt something new. It has been a good day! Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Gents Although I agree that the idea of PowerLine adapters is a great one and can be a boon may I put in a word of caution? As the majority of homes do not have any type of filtering on the mains that comes into the house, the PowerLine will end up broadcasting back into the local domestic mains feeds. Generally speaking this is not a problem as the signal degrades before it can either be tapped into or cause interference, but if you live in, let's say a communual block of flats, and someone else also uses PowerLine adapters, there is a fair chance that persons outside of your home may gain access to your network. Personal case in point - brother lived in a flat and regularly got interference coming through his mains and affecting his TV and most notably radio. He got so desperate in the end that he got mains filters and hey presto all became crystal clear again. He subsequently found out that his next door neighbour was using these adapters and with some co-operation he found out that the interference disappeared when the PowerLine adapters were powered off. So be careful out there! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Tony Arnold Sent: 18 December 2008 14:17 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers Sean, Sean Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: That's answered my question to Sean, but you seem to have to buy these things in pairs. Is that the case? No. But to start they're obviously better value in pairs!! Try this link... http://www.faculty-x.net/homeplugs%20at%20a%20glance.htm?gclid=CLPP9PahypcCF QKKMAodpneBRw Some options there :-) What a great site! Thanks. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] BBC Iplayer download on Linux
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/install/bbc_iplayer_desktop Requires Flash and Adobe Air. Have fun :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
For powerline adapters to work, they need to run on the same electrical ring main. As each house will have it's own fuse box ring main, leakage to outside of the home is not going to be an issue. Most vendors offer some sort of vendor security for privacy anyways. If you're really concerned, use IPSec Transport mode. Jake 2008/12/18 Ian Pascoe softy.lofty@btinternet.com Gents Although I agree that the idea of PowerLine adapters is a great one and can be a boon may I put in a word of caution? As the majority of homes do not have any type of filtering on the mains that comes into the house, the PowerLine will end up broadcasting back into the local domestic mains feeds. Generally speaking this is not a problem as the signal degrades before it can either be tapped into or cause interference, but if you live in, let's say a communual block of flats, and someone else also uses PowerLine adapters, there is a fair chance that persons outside of your home may gain access to your network. Personal case in point - brother lived in a flat and regularly got interference coming through his mains and affecting his TV and most notably radio. He got so desperate in the end that he got mains filters and hey presto all became crystal clear again. He subsequently found out that his next door neighbour was using these adapters and with some co-operation he found out that the interference disappeared when the PowerLine adapters were powered off. So be careful out there! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Tony Arnold Sent: 18 December 2008 14:17 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers Sean, Sean Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: That's answered my question to Sean, but you seem to have to buy these things in pairs. Is that the case? No. But to start they're obviously better value in pairs!! Try this link... http://www.faculty-x.net/homeplugs%20at%20a%20glance.htm?gclid=CLPP9PahypcCF QKKMAodpneBRw Some options there :-) What a great site! Thanks. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
2008/12/18 Ian Pascoe softy.lofty@btinternet.com: Gents Although I agree that the idea of PowerLine adapters is a great one and can be a boon may I put in a word of caution? The ones I have include encryption over the power line which is configurable using a linux utility. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
2008/12/18 Jake Bunce jakebu...@googlemail.com: For powerline adapters to work, they need to run on the same electrical ring main. As each house will have it's own fuse box ring main, leakage to outside of the home is not going to be an issue. Not true, there's no filter on your consumer unit to stop it 'leaking' out. You could be sharing your network with someone a couple of doors down (on the same phase as your house). Most vendors offer some sort of vendor security for privacy anyways. http://www.devolo.co.uk/uk_EN/produkte/dLAN/dlan200aveasysk-817.html Those are the ones I have:- dLAN 200 AVeasy guarantees maximum data security thanks to the powerful 128-bit AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) encryption at the touch of a button - no additional software is required. The data in your network is thus optimally protected against unauthorized access. Well, other than the tool used to setup the encryption in the first place :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Iplayer download on Linux
Alan Pope wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/install/bbc_iplayer_desktop Requires Flash and Adobe Air. I've been trying to get this to work all evening, with download links not showing up on many of the programmes. Only just found out that it is quite a limited selection of programmes available to download atm. At least Nevermind the Buzzcocks is available to test with :) Great to see this downloader from the BBC!! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Iplayer download on Linux
Good to see as well on that webpage that Linux is first in the System Requirements section, followed by Mac, then Windows last. Just the right order for how great each OS is :-) David King Alan Pope wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/install/bbc_iplayer_desktop Requires Flash and Adobe Air. Have fun :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
