[ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
You may have spotted this Reg headline: * Tories put toes on Linux bandwagon Free software's cheaper, right? http://go.theregister.com/news/http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/tory_linux_push/ Oh, dear. Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory??? Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mac wrote: | Oh, dear. Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory??? The Tories are so 1980s. - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: sq...@thefloatingfrog.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAEjkACgkQJ+Auntu1v4RKwgCdHp9+l9sGSyzHWy7eTLCMrwHd 1+0AoITF2e4pj3VC5+O73WRWmhB6uhq/ =sfQN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] ATX power supply seems to have lost it's X-factor
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Roger Lancefield rlancefi...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/28 Roger Lancefield rlancefi...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: I'm swinging towards an Xilence 480W PSU [1] from aria for £26, but not sure if it's (a) worth the extra money for a quieter PSU, and (b) if 480W will be sufficient for stability? 480W is way over-powered to keep that lot working to be honest. Do go for something quiet - nothing worse than a cheap PSU whining away. Thanks for all the information :-) looks like spending the little bit extra is worth it. --Michael _ Michael Fletcher Visit my website here - http://www.mgfletcher.com/blog Interested in Linux? Then visit - http://www.ilovemylinux.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
mac wrote: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/tory_linux_push/ I've got quite a few contacts in the Conservative party, so I'll see what I can dig out. The proposals for more open standards and a more modular approach to government IT projects seems sound to me. I fail to see what this has got to do with Linux, though. The BSI provide thousands of open standards, only a handful of which are anything to do with Linux. Rather, I think the policy focus is on open standards such as XML. -- Andrew Oakley _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. _ This outgoing email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. _ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
On 28/01/2009 08:00, mac wrote: You may have spotted this Reg headline: * Tories put toes on Linux bandwagon Free software's cheaper, right? http://go.theregister.com/news/http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/tory_linux_push/ Oh, dear. Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory??? Mac Can't be much worse than voting for NuLabour. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Oh, dear. Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory??? Mac Can't be much worse than voting for NuLabour. Given their antediluvian view of Internet freedom, their conniving with Big Content to turn our digital devices into proprietary media players, their assumption that the state has a right to view and/or control any and all digital data created within national borders (including video recorded within your own bedroom), their regular attempts to seed the nation with the idea that blogs and personal web sites should be regulated, and their determination to reduce personal liberty in general amen to that! But hey, lest the discussion turn political... ;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Quoting Roger Lancefield rlancefi...@gmail.com: Oh, dear. Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory??? Mac Can't be much worse than voting for NuLabour. Given their antediluvian view of Internet freedom, their conniving with Big Content to turn our digital devices into proprietary media players, their assumption that the state has a right to view and/or control any and all digital data created within national borders (including video recorded within your own bedroom), their regular attempts to seed the nation with the idea that blogs and personal web sites should be regulated, and their determination to reduce personal liberty in general amen to that! But hey, lest the discussion turn political... ;) I invoke Godwins Law... [0] M. [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this subject before someone uses the N word... :oP -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: | [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this | subject before someone uses the N word... :oP Novell? - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: sq...@thefloatingfrog.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAM5UACgkQJ+Auntu1v4QNUQCfbl4hxs9MzK3om5/aVd50EVbt J6EAn3w+7ojxTnZMJwN5FSSHe3avwE6y =NpRZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Stephen O'Neill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: | [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this | subject before someone uses the N word... :oP Novell? Hello, Stephen. Let's not forget that Ubuntu *IS* political by nature: We should be glad to hear that people of *ALL* political persuasions are now interested in using Ubuntu and, I hope, that embracing the philosophy of 'humanity' to others in their computing will also influence their view of the world. Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Travis wrote: | Stephen O'Neill wrote: | Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: | | [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this | | subject before someone uses the N word... :oP | | | Novell? | [snip] | We should be glad | to hear that people of *ALL* political persuasions are now interested in | using Ubuntu Oh of course, absolutely agreed - I don't think that my being facetious carried particularly well over email. - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: sq...@thefloatingfrog.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAQacACgkQJ+Auntu1v4QFtwCeIw0XZdVo16uoj5SrhdnXu5Vg sqUAmwf/GBvtOpLXHvch7rv/fhGAr2f7 =H7Rk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Oh of course, absolutely agreed - I don't think that my being facetious carried particularly well over email. Well, if it's any consolation, your 'Novell' quip caused me to have a coffee, meet sinuses moment :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Ubuntu Pocket Guide and Reference -- now available]
On 27/01/2009 17:13, mike daniels wrote: John, sincere thanks for access to your PDF download, my Ubuntu Dell notebook arived today, what a nice feeling to feel released from the Microsoft stranglehold of the computer market. Dell just mention XP and Vista in their user manual, strange for a pre-loaded Ubuntu machine. I am sure that your book will assist with any problems encountered, I was brought-up on Windows 3.1, DOS 6...remember those days? Reading the help requests impresses me, an army of users willing to help at all times, my Ubuntu mail folder is my largest, thanks again and to those of you in the business who give your time to help to promote Ubuntu, maybe I too will be able to help others in the future. Thanks all, Michael, Wales UK It does mention on the web site that it's available to buy in bulk for a discount. I just wondered if there was any interest in this at all? I've downloaded the PDF and had a look through it and I'm quite impressed. I certainly think that my local LUG might benefit from getting a couple of copies for loaning out to newbies. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Any political party that is interested in the free software world, in particular Linux, is a candidate for using Ubuntu. This list is about using Ubuntu, not political parties. So it is great to hear that a mainstream party would be willing to embrace Linux, and maybe Ubuntu. But there should not be any bias for or against any political party on this list. If the Conservatives are going to use Ubuntu, let us encourage them. It may also set a precedent amongst all the political parties to champion Linux over Windows, then whatever party you support will start using Linux. As for voting for any particular party in politics, there is more than just what OS they use to consider. But all other things being equal, if one party chooses Linux, and the others want to use Windows, then the Linux-using party gets my vote. David King Stephen O'Neill wrote: | We should be glad | to hear that people of *ALL* political persuasions are now interested in | using Ubuntu Oh of course, absolutely agreed - I don't think that my being facetious carried particularly well over email. - -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Any political party that is interested in the free software world, in particular Linux, is a candidate for using Ubuntu. Despite the attention grabbing strap-line of 'Tories put toes on Linux bandwagon' that el' Reg seem to have used; I'm not sure that the 'Tories are necessarily advocating Linux over Windows operating systems to be fair. I'd be willing to bet that they were talking about stuff like.. - Open Office instead of Microsoft Office - MySQL/PostgreSQL instead of MSSQL - Sendmail/Postfix etc instead of Exchange - SugarCRM instead of proprietary CRM etc, etc, etc. Still, it's all good, and hopefully it'll help spurn on a greater usage of Linux in the public sector. I imagine at the moment though it'll be on the server rather than the desktop Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Dialup from Ubuntu
I recently had a problem with my broadband connection, it just stopped working one night. Works okay again now though. But it meant that I had to try dialup for the first time in years. I still have an external serial modem (Zoom V.92) which I connected, but I could not get connected to the Internet with it. I had great difficulty in finding any kind of installed software in Ubuntu that would allow me to dial up any ISP through the modem. It was very easy in Windows, but why is it that a default Ubuntu installation contains no easy way of using dialup? I have since downloaded GnomePPP which is what I was looking for, something very much like the dialup program in the old Windows that I was used to. It is great for broadband users to install Ubuntu and then just get online and get updates, etc., but when broadband is broken, there is no easy way to get connected. And without the internet connection, no way to search online for an answer. Ubuntu needs to have GnomePPP installed by default. I did find a CLI program called wvdial that was installed, and I set a phone number for an ISP and username and password, into the conf file for it. But the number was old and no longer in use, so it would not connect. Then I found some info that should work, put that into the conf file, but after dialling that from wvdial, it just disconnected and then tried to redial using the original number that I put in but had deleted. So why did it remember the old number that was removed? I also put the dial up details into the Network Connections dialog (by clicking on the network icon near the clock) and entering dialup details in there, but from that dialog there is no button to click to actually dial. However, I noticed that a few minutes later Ubuntu was dialling something without displaying any kind of status as to what it was doing. It did this, then disconnected, and again later, seemingly at random. I did check the phone when it had dialled out, and heard the usual modem data sounds, so it was connecting to the ISP, but not staying connected. Even though most people now use broadband, Canonical really need to include proper dial up software in Ubuntu for those without broadband, and for those whose broadband temporarily goes offline. Up until this incident I thought that Ubuntu was pretty much the ideal OS to install from the CD, but it seems that once installed, if you have no broadband, getting online is nearly impossible. Canonical need to fix this asap, if they have not done so already. I am using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, and being an LTS edition, it should have the dialup software like GnomePPP preinstalled. Maybe it has been fixed in 8.10, but the LTS users must be catered for too. David King -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dialup from Ubuntu
David King wrote: I recently had a problem with my broadband connection, it just stopped working one night. Works okay again now though. But it meant that I had to try dialup for the first time in years. I still have an external serial modem (Zoom V.92) which I connected, but I could not get connected to the Internet with it. I had great difficulty in finding any kind of installed software in Ubuntu that would allow me to dial up any ISP through the modem. It was very easy in Windows, but why is it that a default Ubuntu installation contains no easy way of using dialup? I have since downloaded GnomePPP which is what I was looking for, something very much like the dialup program in the old Windows that I was used to. It is great for broadband users to install Ubuntu and then just get online and get updates, etc., but when broadband is broken, there is no easy way to get connected. And without the internet connection, no way to search online for an answer. Ubuntu needs to have GnomePPP installed by default. I did find a CLI program called wvdial that was installed, and I set a phone number for an ISP and username and password, into the conf file for it. But the number was old and no longer in use, so it would not connect. Then I found some info that should work, put that into the conf file, but after dialling that from wvdial, it just disconnected and then tried to redial using the original number that I put in but had deleted. So why did it remember the old number that was removed? I also put the dial up details into the Network Connections dialog (by clicking on the network icon near the clock) and entering dialup details in there, but from that dialog there is no button to click to actually dial. However, I noticed that a few minutes later Ubuntu was dialling something without displaying any kind of status as to what it was doing. It did this, then disconnected, and again later, seemingly at random. I did check the phone when it had dialled out, and heard the usual modem data sounds, so it was connecting to the ISP, but not staying connected. Even though most people now use broadband, Canonical really need to include proper dial up software in Ubuntu for those without broadband, and for those whose broadband temporarily goes offline. Up until this incident I thought that Ubuntu was pretty much the ideal OS to install from the CD, but it seems that once installed, if you have no broadband, getting online is nearly impossible. Canonical need to fix this asap, if they have not done so already. I am using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, and being an LTS edition, it should have the dialup software like GnomePPP preinstalled. Maybe it has been fixed in 8.10, but the LTS users must be catered for too. David King A bit late yes, but this may be useful http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html paul -- Paul Sutton www.zleap.net Support Open and ISO standard file formats ISO 26300 odf http://www.odfalliance.org Next Linux User Group meet : Feb 7th : 3pm (TBC), Shoreline Cafe Paignton -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dialup from Ubuntu
Paul Sutton wrote: David King wrote: I recently had a problem with my broadband connection, it just stopped working one night. Works okay again now though. But it meant that I had to try dialup for the first time in years. I still have an external serial modem (Zoom V.92) which I connected, but I could not get connected to the Internet with it. I had great difficulty in finding any kind of installed software in Ubuntu that would allow me to dial up any ISP through the modem. It was very easy in Windows, but why is it that a default Ubuntu installation contains no easy way of using dialup? I have since downloaded GnomePPP which is what I was looking for, something very much like the dialup program in the old Windows that I was used to. It is great for broadband users to install Ubuntu and then just get online and get updates, etc., but when broadband is broken, there is no easy way to get connected. And without the internet connection, no way to search online for an answer. Ubuntu needs to have GnomePPP installed by default. I did find a CLI program called wvdial that was installed, and I set a phone number for an ISP and username and password, into the conf file for it. But the number was old and no longer in use, so it would not connect. Then I found some info that should work, put that into the conf file, but after dialling that from wvdial, it just disconnected and then tried to redial using the original number that I put in but had deleted. So why did it remember the old number that was removed? I also put the dial up details into the Network Connections dialog (by clicking on the network icon near the clock) and entering dialup details in there, but from that dialog there is no button to click to actually dial. However, I noticed that a few minutes later Ubuntu was dialling something without displaying any kind of status as to what it was doing. It did this, then disconnected, and again later, seemingly at random. I did check the phone when it had dialled out, and heard the usual modem data sounds, so it was connecting to the ISP, but not staying connected. Even though most people now use broadband, Canonical really need to include proper dial up software in Ubuntu for those without broadband, and for those whose broadband temporarily goes offline. Up until this incident I thought that Ubuntu was pretty much the ideal OS to install from the CD, but it seems that once installed, if you have no broadband, getting online is nearly impossible. Canonical need to fix this asap, if they have not done so already. I am using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, and being an LTS edition, it should have the dialup software like GnomePPP preinstalled. Maybe it has been fixed in 8.10, but the LTS users must be catered for too. David King A bit late yes, but this may be useful http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html paul this may be useful, but it still requires gnomeppp to be installed, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=988472 Paul -- Paul Sutton www.zleap.net Support Open and ISO standard file formats ISO 26300 odf http://www.odfalliance.org Next Linux User Group meet : Feb 7th : 3pm (TBC), Shoreline Cafe Paignton -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Ubuntu Pocket Guide and Reference -- now available]
The PDF downloadable Ubuntu Pocket guide is some 170 pages, so a long print job, content is for newbies and experts alike, so I agree, a must for any LUG libraries. Lets hope that 2009 sees dealerships offering Ubuntu, preloaded, on thier homebuilt machines.just think, release from those silly Windows messages like Do you really want to. Thanks again, all, for your contributions, no 089 premium rate numbers for help, just the sharing concept of helping each other free! Thanks Rob, regards, Michael --- On Wed, 28/1/09, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: From: Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Ubuntu Pocket Guide and Reference -- now available] To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wednesday, 28 January, 2009, 11:45 AM On 27/01/2009 17:13, mike daniels wrote: John, sincere thanks for access to your PDF download, my Ubuntu Dell notebook arived today, what a nice feeling to feel released from the Microsoft stranglehold of the computer market. Dell just mention XP and Vista in their user manual, strange for a pre-loaded Ubuntu machine. I am sure that your book will assist with any problems encountered, I was brought-up on Windows 3.1, DOS 6...remember those days? Reading the help requests impresses me, an army of users willing to help at all times, my Ubuntu mail folder is my largest, thanks again and to those of you in the business who give your time to help to promote Ubuntu, maybe I too will be able to help others in the future. Thanks all, Michael, Wales UK It does mention on the web site that it's available to buy in bulk for a discount. I just wondered if there was any interest in this at all? I've downloaded the PDF and had a look through it and I'm quite impressed. I certainly think that my local LUG might benefit from getting a couple of copies for loaning out to newbies. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
On 28/01/2009 14:57, Chris Rowson wrote: Any political party that is interested in the free software world, in particular Linux, is a candidate for using Ubuntu. Despite the attention grabbing strap-line of 'Tories put toes on Linux bandwagon' that el' Reg seem to have used; I'm not sure that the 'Tories are necessarily advocating Linux over Windows operating systems to be fair. I'd be willing to bet that they were talking about stuff like.. - Open Office instead of Microsoft Office - MySQL/PostgreSQL instead of MSSQL - Sendmail/Postfix etc instead of Exchange - SugarCRM instead of proprietary CRM etc, etc, etc. Still, it's all good, and hopefully it'll help spurn on a greater usage of Linux in the public sector. I imagine at the moment though it'll be on the server rather than the desktop Chris Yep as you say it's all good. Hopefully it'll increase the market share of OpenOffice, Firefox etc on the desktop (not sure about Thunderbird, maybe they'd use some web based portal for mail/calendars etc)? At least when end users get familar with OpenOffice, Firefox etc making the switch to Ubuntu/Kubuntu/insert favourite distro here it shouldn't be as much of a shock. Well that's assuming they aren't the sort of user who doesn't like change at all (and I dare say there are a fair few out there). Rob Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preinstalled Ubuntu was [Fwd: Ubuntu Pocket Guide and Reference -- now available]
On 28/01/2009 15:38, mike daniels wrote: The PDF downloadable Ubuntu Pocket guide is some 170 pages, so a long print job, content is for newbies and experts alike, so I agree, a must for any LUG libraries. Lets hope that 2009 sees dealerships offering Ubuntu, preloaded, on thier homebuilt machines.just think, release from those silly Windows messages like Do you really want to. Thanks again, all, for your contributions, no 089 premium rate numbers for help, just the sharing concept of helping each other free! Thanks Rob, regards, Michael Ahh don't get me started on the Windows messages asking if I really want to do something. When I shut down Vista (still haven't installed Ubuntu on my laptop) and I have any apps open it asks me if I really want to shut down. Not very useful when it sits there, I just want to be able to select shutdown and let it get on with it (I have the power options set to always on so when I close the lid it just turns the screen off). With regards to machines with Ubuntu pre-installed, there is Dell who pre-install Ubuntu on a couple of laptops and their new netbooks, Toshiba also have a Netbook with Ubuntu Netbook Remix installed, and there are other companies who have been doing similar for a while and others who are starting do to this. IIRC Efficient PC (http://efficientpc.co.uk/) is one of them. Heck, I even found a cheapo (circa £230) desktop PC listed on PC World's web site which comes with Linux (although I'm not sure if it's either available in store or which version of Linux it is - it's a start though) - http://tinyurl.com/aneapz I did notice two reviews on the PC World machine, one from someone called Linda... Good Points: it has a really good spec, and runs really fast Bad points: it has windows linux as the operating system and another from Anonymous... Bad points: you cant install windows I think the problem with this is that Anonymous was expecting to get a cheap PC and possibly stick on a pirate version of Windows. If they wanted Windows then they'd have to pay extra for it. On the other hand, Linda's review wasn't too bad, I mean she says it's a good spec PC and runs really fast which is probably does do and I'm sure she's happy that she can browse the net etc on it. I think thought she was expecting Windows hence it has windows linux as the operating system. How I see it, if PC World are selling these machines then it's got to be a start. It's just a case now of getting them in store and training the few mindless sales drones to explain that although Linux won't run Windows apps (well not all of them) it is most likely compatible with their documents, they'll be able to browse the internet, check their e-mail and do pretty much everything they would probably do on Windows anyway. Maybe Canonical should start talking to companies like the Dixons stores group and see if they can get some Ubuntu machines in the store with decent documentation such as the Ubuntu Pocket Guide bundled in. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Edubuntu 8.04.1 on Ubuntu 8.04.2
On 27/01/2009 20:41, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi Rob As 8.04.2 is only a roll up of all the current patches and fixes that have come in since 8.04.1, I shouldn't think there'd be much of a problem. If it's not a live server then there's no harm in trying it out and letting us know what happens! Ian Okay after much playing I can confirm that Edubuntu 8.04.1 does install and work fine on Ubuntu 8.04.2, well at least it seems to work okay. I did find that when you install Edubuntu 8.10 on top of Ubuntu 8.10 LTSP the client machines no longer boot with a splash screen. I'd say that Edubuntu 8.04 seems more polished than Edubuntu 8.10 :-) Now I've just got to work out how to get Ubuntu to stop prompting me to update the generic kernel after installing the server kernel for the 4GB Ram. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preinstalled Ubuntu was [Fwd: Ubuntu Pocket Guide and Reference -- now available]
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 16:10 +, Rob Beard wrote: Heck, I even found a cheapo (circa £230) desktop PC listed on PC World's web site which comes with Linux (although I'm not sure if it's either available in store or which version of Linux it is - it's a start though) - http://tinyurl.com/aneapz Interestingly, PC World's Great offers with this product start with Norton 360 All-In-One Security Version 2.0 , then Microsoft Office Home Student 2007 Hows that for randomized recommendations :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Username reset for 8.04
Hi all, have forgotton my username. Have tried Username and username in Drop to route shell command not recognised! Acceped password change ok. An urgent help-call please! Thanks, michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Username reset for 8.04
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 08:58 -0800, mike daniels wrote: Hi all, have forgotton my username. Have tried Username and username in Drop to route shell command not recognised! Acceped password change ok. An urgent help-call please! Thanks, michael Insert cd use rescue mode. Once it has finish booting do ls /home -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Username reset for 8.04
On 28/01/2009 16:58, mike daniels wrote: Hi all, have forgotton my username. Have tried Username and username in Drop to route shell command not recognised! Acceped password change ok. An urgent help-call please! Thanks, michael Try this... http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword It tells you how to reset your password and also find out your username if you've forgotten it. Comes with nice easy to follow screen shots. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Username reset for 8.04
You're in a root shell, you say? If so you just need to cat /etc/passwd and you should find your username there... if you then don't know the password use passwd username to set it to something new. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Username reset for 8.04
Quoting mike daniels mikezz1...@yahoo.com: Hi all, have forgotton my username. Have tried Username and username in Drop to route shell command not recognised! Acceped password change ok. An urgent help-call please! Thanks, michael Can you log in at all? If you can, fire up a root terminal and cat /etc/passwd | less if you can't, its a bit more complex: 1) Boot the system from a live/recovery CD (the ubuntu disk will suffice) 2) Mount your current / partition (usually /dev/sdax where x is a number) to a suitable place (/media/oldroot is useful but may need creating first). 3) run less /media/oldroot/etc/passwd 4) if you still don't have your username, come back to the list. M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Username reset for 8.04
Quoting Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk: On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 08:58 -0800, mike daniels wrote: Hi all, have forgotton my username. Have tried Username and username in Drop to route shell command not recognised! Acceped password change ok. An urgent help-call please! Thanks, michael Insert cd use rescue mode. Once it has finish booting do ls /home Yup, that'll work as well, and is probably much easier than the post that is about to hit your inbox... M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Username reset for 8.04
Thanks Rob, that url displayed my username and the original password is still valid so the attempted password change did not register. Just have to load my Yahoo etc on the Ubuntu machine, then wife can have her Windows machine back! Thanks,all for your responses,Michael --- On Wed, 28/1/09, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: From: Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Username reset for 8.04 To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wednesday, 28 January, 2009, 5:02 PM On 28/01/2009 16:58, mike daniels wrote: Hi all, have forgotton my username. Have tried Username and username in Drop to route shell command not recognised! Acceped password change ok. An urgent help-call please! Thanks, michael Try this... http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword It tells you how to reset your password and also find out your username if you've forgotten it. Comes with nice easy to follow screen shots. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dialup from Ubuntu
I am using Ubuntu 8.04, and there is a modem option in the Network Connections dialog, but no option to actually click to connect, or click to disconnect. David King Rob Beard wrote: On 28/01/2009 15:18, David King wrote: It is great for broadband users to install Ubuntu and then just get online and get updates, etc., but when broadband is broken, there is no easy way to get connected. And without the internet connection, no way to search online for an answer. snip Which version of Ubuntu are you running? Ubuntu 8.10 does include a newer network manager which appears to support all sorts of internet connections including wired ethernet, wireless, 3G mobile broadband and dialup. Can't say I've tried it though, in fact I don't even think I have a compatible modem kicking around anymore and I haven't the foggiest if my laptop supports it (I must give this a try sometime). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Andrew Oakley wrote: mac wrote: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/tory_linux_push/ I've got quite a few contacts in the Conservative party, so I'll see what I can dig out. It'd be particularly interesting to know whether GNU/Linux in general and Ubuntu in particular appear in their plans, and what's said about them. The Register has updated the article (above), which had said that the full report was available by e-mail; it seems the Conservatives are not now going to publish their report. So if you can find out a bit more, that would be good. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Really, it's a no-lose proposition.If they embrace OS, they gain potentially loads of geek goodwill, and if they don't, they won't lose any ... unless to the other side if they embrace OS. So any sensible politician ... Oh, right. And also, I imagine M$ lobby *very* hard against that kind of thing. 2009/1/28 mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk Andrew Oakley wrote: mac wrote: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/tory_linux_push/ I've got quite a few contacts in the Conservative party, so I'll see what I can dig out. It'd be particularly interesting to know whether GNU/Linux in general and Ubuntu in particular appear in their plans, and what's said about them. The Register has updated the article (above), which had said that the full report was available by e-mail; it seems the Conservatives are not now going to publish their report. So if you can find out a bit more, that would be good. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: [OT] Firefox bundled in widows?]
that is just so funny :-) I wonder what the widows think, the ones who are having a firefox bundled into them. (a firefox is a small red panda, or, a great web browser) Original Message Subject:[ubuntu-uk] [OT] Firefox bundled in widows? ohhh, now this is interesting :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
