Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread mac
Sean Miller wrote:
> He said it was a "dial-up ADSL broadband modem"... I think it's
> something like an Alcatel, not a dial-up in the traditional sense (ie.
> not 56k PSTN).

Ah!  Oh well, perhaps I shouldn't have bothered spending a couple of 
hours (again!) trying to get a 56kbps HSF modem working in Ubuntu;  but 
it's all learning, isn't it?  Trouble is, I've only ever managed this 
twice, and only once with Ubuntu:  a Hardy on an ancient Compaq.  (The 
other time was with Debian Etch on an equally ancient Dell laptop.)

"Why do you do it?" I hear you cry.  Because (like Everest) it's there!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread Sean Miller
Mac,

He said it was a "dial-up ADSL broadband modem"... I think it's
something like an Alcatel, not a dial-up in the traditional sense (ie.
not 56k PSTN).

If you recall on Windows alcatel-type modems appear as "dial up
networking connections", though they don't actually dial at all...
just log in on demand.

Sean

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread mac
mac wrote:
> ...Here's my notes

Forgot... further detailed info at

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread mac
Sean Miller wrote:
> I suggested a solution, which is to get a router.
> I am afraid that trying to get things like Alcatel Speedtouch modems
> etc. working takes more time than it's worth

Faran >>> I tend to agree with Sean -- getting dial up working is a 
pain.  I've done it a couple of times, and it's often a drag.  Prompted 
by your post, I just tried to set it up on a fresh install of 9.04 (no, 
I didn't do the install specially for this test!).

Here's my notes about how to do it.  In theory.  (Trouble is, it's not 
working.  Modem isn't being detected, and this is on a machine where I 
had dialup working under 8.04.  Rats!).

Cheers

mac

NOTES:
Check for modem:
sudo lshw | grep -i modem

(You may need to get some stuff using another computer with internet 
connection)

Is it an HSF modem - if so, you'll need the driver.  Using 9.04?  First, 
you need to get and install the alsa-driver:

www.linuxant.com/alsa-driver

(unzip, and double-click the .deb to install.  May take a VERY long time 
- be patient!)

then get and install the hsf driver:

www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php

Restart the system

then

Run wvdialconf.  It should detect your modem and create a default 
wvdial.conf (in /etc/wvdial.conf). Edit this file to add the phone 
number, username and password for your ISP. Then run wvdial to connect.

Once you're connected you can install gnome-ppp for easier non-cli access:

sudo aptitude install gnome-ppp
(The app should appear in Applications/Internet)



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Microphone on Toshiba L40 laptop Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-17 Thread Tony Pursell
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 17:35 +0100, Gordon wrote:
> Tony Pursell wrote:
> > Try this
> > 
> > Right click on the volume control icon (top right) and select 'Open
> > volume control'
> > 
> > Click on Preferences.  Is 'Capture' ticked?  If not, tick it.
> > 
> > Go to the 'Recording' tab.  Make sure the volume is turned up on Capture
> > and microphone symbol does not have an 'x' on it (click it to remove)
> > 
> 
> Tried that - I can get sound from the mic through the laptop speakers,
> but Sound Recorder is very very faint and Skype doesn't recognise the
> mic at all!
> 
> 

In sound recorder, try a format other than ogg. There seems to be lot of
problem with that.

In Skype, have you explored Options > Sound Devices?  I found that the
Default device did not work but there is an explicit device setting that
does.  

Tony


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home machine.....

2009-05-17 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/5/17 John :
> Hi, I got it fixed. I was using the Wubi.exe installer from the website,
> and it was downloading the wrong version. Now that you have asked the
> question, I am not sure. I know it wasnt the i386 version. Once you got
> past the initial install, it said it was installing the other version. I
> had actually installed it once, and couldnt use the deb installer, which
> is how I came to first realise, then I uninstalled it, then redownloaded
> the installer, then tried again, and that was when I saw what it was
> downloading. I could not get the i386 installer, even though the machine
> I was using is a 32bit machine it was downloading the 64bit version. I
> think there might be something wrong with the wubi.exe installer on the
> wubi site.
>
> I eventually found out that you can install it via the disk. I didnt
> realise first of all that it would show if you didnt restart the laptop,
> just insert the disc and let it run. Once I found that it worked, and
> now I have the right version, and its working. Its also updated really
> well too, plus I have the right software sources updated and installed.
> I am having a few problems with flash stuff, and I know the flash player
> is installed, but its very slow. Which is strange as its quite a fast
> machine. I was very impressed with the way it works on a vista machine
> though, which is a surprise. I know its not the best way to have Ubuntu
> installed, but for a beginner who is not good with partitioning, its a
> very good way to get used to Ubuntu.
>
> Sorry if that sounds a bit waffly. I hope you can understand what I'm
> saying.

Hwyl John,

Is this the same machine where you were having problems before? If it
was trying to run 64-bit code on a 32-bit machine, that would
certainly explain some of what you were seeing!

Glad it's working now. Not sure why flash is so slow. I've not really
run wubi (I tried it for 30 minutes a couple of releases ago), so
maybe someone else can say if this is normal...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread Neil Greenwood
It's nice to see everyone playing nicely again.

And it's at times like this that I realise just how much communication
is lost in a text-only medium.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 21:01 +0100, Sean Miller wrote:
> Ferran,
> 
> If I can get to my wife's house I might have a wireless router I can
> send you, if you draw a blank.  Have a couple in the garage.
> 
> But it might take a week or two.
> 
> Sean
> 

oh cool, sounds good :) my friend's pc is in her room, about a million
miles away from the modem anyway - they weren't sure what to do for
internet bar lugging the whole pc downstairs every time. Of course I'll
discuss it with her (and parents) first, but otherwise thanks very
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread Sean Miller
Ferran,

If I can get to my wife's house I might have a wireless router I can
send you, if you draw a blank.  Have a couple in the garage.

But it might take a week or two.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] how to set up a dial up connection

2009-05-17 Thread Matt Jones
I would really recommend a router, a wired one is cheap, and will give
a better and more stable connection that the modem. There appears to
be some info here
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/EciAdsl but it is quite
old. I know my sagem one didn't work at all when I tried it.

Matt.

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Sean Miller  wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Farran Lee  wrote:
>> sorry, an extra bit I forgot to mention - it is a BT DSL modem, using
>> broadband, but the computer DIALS UP to the connection.
>
> It doesn't actually.
>
> It's just that Windows displays it as a Dial Up Networking Connection.
>
> Doesn't dial up at all -- it's ADSL.
>
> Sean
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 20:46 +0100, Sean Miller wrote:
> I suggested a solution, which is to get a router.
> 
> I am afraid that trying to get things like Alcatel Speedtouch modems
> etc. working takes more time than it's worth - there are a load of
> routers out there being given away for free.  By the time you've tried
> to download drivers etc. you'll have spent so much time it would have
> been better to have bunged somebody a tenner for their old router.
> 
> That was my advice.
> 
> I didn't like the way he said "I don't have any time, so you lot it
> for me" or similar - felt it was not what the list is about.  And
> probably reacted too strongly.
> 
> Sorry for being rude, not normally my way.
> 
> Sean
> 

ok thanks
I did see the router bit, but as there was no other advice linked, I saw
it as a bit of a cop-out - probably in the same way as you saw my
comment. I didn't mean it in that way.
However, no harm done, I'll have a look around in a couple of weeks.
*goes back to revision*

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread Sean Miller
I suggested a solution, which is to get a router.

I am afraid that trying to get things like Alcatel Speedtouch modems
etc. working takes more time than it's worth - there are a load of
routers out there being given away for free.  By the time you've tried
to download drivers etc. you'll have spent so much time it would have
been better to have bunged somebody a tenner for their old router.

That was my advice.

I didn't like the way he said "I don't have any time, so you lot it
for me" or similar - felt it was not what the list is about.  And
probably reacted too strongly.

Sorry for being rude, not normally my way.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Scrambled screen

2009-05-17 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/5/17 Daniel Rhodes-Mumby :
> On Sun, 17 May 2009 08:29:07 +0100, Greg Herdman  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I'm really new to the Ubuntu scene; got involved about 6 months ago.
>> Everything has been working fine until a recent update session. An
>> incomplete update was signalled (I 'd just installed ClamTk and PiTiVi a
>> day or so earlier. At first the screen dropped into 'basic' low-res
>> mode. I managed to reset it using the appropriate desktop apppication
>> (forgot it's name!) but the resolution wasn't quite as previously, so I
>> tried to tweak it. Result - totally scrambled screen such that the
>> desktop is unusable.
>>
>> I've been making basic use of Live mode from the installation CD, which
>> works well with everything looking fine. I can access the harddrive,
>> save and retrieve files, read and write removable media and also print.
>> The downsides of Live user mode, however, are substantial, particularly
>> in terms of speed, so I need to get back to my original settings.
>>
>> DSo, my question - I've noted a recent thread that seems to imply that I
>> could reinstall over my current installation which would leave all my
>> files within 'home' intact. Is this so?
>> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04LTS (Hardy Heron) on a desktop.
>>
>> Any ideas - much appreciated.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>
> I believe the Ubiquity Preserve Home spec was targeted and achieved for Hardy.
>
> If I'm correct in this belief then you can indeed reinstall Hardy (and indeed 
> you could upgrade to a more recent version of Ubuntu, although of course this 
> is a matter of preference) without damaging the contents of /home, as long as 
> you specified a separate partition for it in your original installation.
>
> If you did then you can run preserve /home quite easily (assuming I can 
> correctly recall the steps involved in doing so):
>        Run through the Ubuntu installer until you reach the partitioning stage
>        Choose manual partitioning
>        Select the partition with /home on it and choose to use it
>        Choose the correct filesystem, but also choose NOT to format it
>        Change the mountpoint to be /home

I think you only need to do this if the original installation had a
separate partition for home.

If you have a single partition for everything (except maybe swap),
leave the mountpoint as /

>        Setup your other partitions appropriately and finish the installation
> Working from memory, that's the correct (and easy) procedure; it does hang on 
> the existence of /home as a separate partition already, though. You could 
> work around that by migrating the content to a new partition while preserving 
> all the necessary file attributes and then choosing this partition during 
> installation, of course.

'Preserve Home' will delete all the existing data on the partition you
select *except /home*. You don't need a separate /home partition.
That's always worked (as long as you choose not to format it :-)

>
> It's probably best to wait for someone else to confirm the procedure to 
> preserve /home before you try, though; whilst I've done it many times, my 
> memory isn't always reliable and I'd rather that it wasn't responsible for 
> the loss of any of your data.

If in doubt, backup first! Even if not in doubt, it's safer to have a
backup. Then also check that the backup worked and you can restore
from it.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] how to set up a dial up connection

2009-05-17 Thread Sean Miller
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Farran Lee  wrote:
> sorry, an extra bit I forgot to mention - it is a BT DSL modem, using
> broadband, but the computer DIALS UP to the connection.

It doesn't actually.

It's just that Windows displays it as a Dial Up Networking Connection.

Doesn't dial up at all -- it's ADSL.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread James Milligan
Sorry to flare this up any more, and I assure everyone this will be  
the only list email I send in relation to this - ill keep it off list  
if I need to respond.

To Sean,

What's the 'excuse' for you being rude in response? Sure, you provided  
an answer that he could have found himself with a little bit of time,  
but thats the same with anything. Google is great, but if you're not  
sure what to put in, it's pretty darn useless.

This list is meant to help people who are having issues with ubuntu,  
and general discussion about things, not about slaying people because  
they're trying to do well in life and pass on their expertise to their  
friends at the same time.

If it's of any importance to you, I'm 16 too, and am also in the  
middle of my GCSEs. IMHO, I did find your comments a little  
unconstructive and put him down somewhat. Age shouldn't matter. I'm  
sure he knows many things that you don't.

Anyway to move on, I've emailed Farran off list as well, but I'm  
afraid I can't help with the actual issue. If you wish to discuss this  
further, please email me off list.

James Milligan - 16

On 17 May 2009, at 19:48, Sean Miller  wrote:

> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Farran Lee  
>  wrote:
>> sorry, I'm sure I could find this on the net but don't have time.
>
> What makes you think we all have time if you don't?
>
>> How do I set up a dial-up-conenction on a friend's computer? ftr,  
>> it's
>> BT dsl broadband modem that they use, don't know if this is relevant.
>
> It it's a BT DSL broadband Modem then it isn't dial-up.
>
> And, personally, I wouldn't bother... just find a cheap router and
> connect it using a network cable.   There are so many routers around
> these days it really isn't, imho, worth messing around trying to get
> DSL modems to work.  Look on Freecycle, there's bound to be one there
> for free.
>
>> Farran Lee 
>> I'm only 16 :P
>
> Why do people say things like "I'm only 16"?  Is it to make excuses
> for being rude on lists "I don't have the time but you lot must do, so
> you'd better sort my issue"??
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] how to set up a dial up connection

2009-05-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 20:04 +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
> hi everyone
> just wondered if you would be able to help me out a bit. I've promised
> to help a friend with her new ubuntu machine, but her family use dial up
> broadband. I'm revising a lot at the moment because of my GCSEs over the
> next 3 weeks, so I hoped that perhaps a couple of you had a bit more
> spare time than me to look it up?
> 
> Thank you very much.
> Sorry to have to tell you ALL the periphery information, but some people
> find it hard to accept a 16 year old boy in the middle of exams asking
> for help, so I thought I would make it clear why the hell I would ask
> for help on a mailing list intended to help people.
> 
> Again, thank you all.
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> 
> 

sorry, an extra bit I forgot to mention - it is a BT DSL modem, using
broadband, but the computer DIALS UP to the connection.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe)

2009-05-17 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/5/16 Ian Pascoe :
> Hi Neil
>
> that answers things nicely.
>
> From what you've said I think the watch phrase has got to be once a drive has 
> been incorporated into a virtual system by LVM there it should stay.  Any 
> need to transfer data should be by either network or removeable media.

Probably safest/easiest, I agree. Depends on the fate of that system
though... if it's fubar, you might need to swap disks, in which case
take care (and backups!).

>
> This brings me to a further question, sorry!

NP

> Can a LVM virtual drive be mounted by NFS?


Not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean "export (share) a filesystem
that's on an LVM virtual drive to another machine", or "add a remote
NFS share into an LVM volume"?

The former - yes, definitely. Once it's mounted, it's identical to any
other filesystem.

The latter - I'm not certain, but it seems very unlikely.


If you meant something else entirely, you need to do a bit more
explaining. Maybe an example would help me understand.

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[ubuntu-uk] how to set up a dial up connection

2009-05-17 Thread Farran Lee
hi everyone
just wondered if you would be able to help me out a bit. I've promised
to help a friend with her new ubuntu machine, but her family use dial up
broadband. I'm revising a lot at the moment because of my GCSEs over the
next 3 weeks, so I hoped that perhaps a couple of you had a bit more
spare time than me to look it up?

Thank you very much.
Sorry to have to tell you ALL the periphery information, but some people
find it hard to accept a 16 year old boy in the middle of exams asking
for help, so I thought I would make it clear why the hell I would ask
for help on a mailing list intended to help people.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread Farran Lee
well actually I promised to help a friend, and I'm in the middle of
exams (gcses in case you forgot) which is why I put I'm only 16 and that
I don't have time. Typing an email and continuing revision is a hell of
a lot quicker than researching it. Of course, if any of you do have
time, then that is why you are on here. If you never have time, then
obviously being on here is not for you. However, you obviously do have
enough time, because you wrote unnecessary sarcy comments everywhere -
possibly enough time to research the question properly. Nobody else has
ever had a problem with my age, and I don't see why you should. I
figured pointing out my age would help people understand better if I
wrote weird things. If you want to have a go at me, please email me
personally, off the mailing list.

Btw, thanks for the advice.


On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 19:48 +0100, Sean Miller wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Farran Lee  wrote:
> > sorry, I'm sure I could find this on the net but don't have time.
> 
> What makes you think we all have time if you don't?
> 
> > How do I set up a dial-up-conenction on a friend's computer? ftr, it's
> > BT dsl broadband modem that they use, don't know if this is relevant.
> 
> It it's a BT DSL broadband Modem then it isn't dial-up.
> 
> And, personally, I wouldn't bother... just find a cheap router and
> connect it using a network cable.   There are so many routers around
> these days it really isn't, imho, worth messing around trying to get
> DSL modems to work.  Look on Freecycle, there's bound to be one there
> for free.
> 
> > Farran Lee 
> > I'm only 16 :P
> 
> Why do people say things like "I'm only 16"?  Is it to make excuses
> for being rude on lists "I don't have the time but you lot must do, so
> you'd better sort my issue"??
> 
> Sean
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread Sean Miller
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Farran Lee  wrote:
> sorry, I'm sure I could find this on the net but don't have time.

What makes you think we all have time if you don't?

> How do I set up a dial-up-conenction on a friend's computer? ftr, it's
> BT dsl broadband modem that they use, don't know if this is relevant.

It it's a BT DSL broadband Modem then it isn't dial-up.

And, personally, I wouldn't bother... just find a cheap router and
connect it using a network cable.   There are so many routers around
these days it really isn't, imho, worth messing around trying to get
DSL modems to work.  Look on Freecycle, there's bound to be one there
for free.

> Farran Lee 
> I'm only 16 :P

Why do people say things like "I'm only 16"?  Is it to make excuses
for being rude on lists "I don't have the time but you lot must do, so
you'd better sort my issue"??

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[ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?

2009-05-17 Thread Farran Lee
hi all
sorry, I'm sure I could find this on the net but don't have time.
How do I set up a dial-up-conenction on a friend's computer? ftr, it's
BT dsl broadband modem that they use, don't know if this is relevant.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Microphone on Toshiba L40 laptop Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-17 Thread Gordon
Tony Pursell wrote:
> Try this
> 
> Right click on the volume control icon (top right) and select 'Open
> volume control'
> 
> Click on Preferences.  Is 'Capture' ticked?  If not, tick it.
> 
> Go to the 'Recording' tab.  Make sure the volume is turned up on Capture
> and microphone symbol does not have an 'x' on it (click it to remove)
> 

Tried that - I can get sound from the mic through the laptop speakers,
but Sound Recorder is very very faint and Skype doesn't recognise the
mic at all!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu screenc scrambled

2009-05-17 Thread Greg Herdman
Thanks Daniel.
Unfortunately I have two unrelated issues:
1. I'm such a newbie that much of the technical terminology passes me 
by. I have a copy of *Beginning Ubuntu Linux* (Thomas & Sicam / Apress) 
with Ubuntu 8.04LTS installation DVD. My system was set up at purchase 
so I have no experience of the installation process.
2. My system is Ubuntu-only; no other OS and everything on a single 
partition.

Can anyone a) confirm Daniel's memory work and/or b) provide an 
idiot-guide to solving my issue?
Thanks in anticipation.
Greg

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>1. Re:  Non ubuntu related question- Keyboard shortcuts for
>   google reader in Android (mac)
>2.  Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home machine. (John)
>3.  LVD (maybe) (Ian Pascoe)
>4. Re:  LVD (maybe) (Alan Lord (News))
>5. Re:  LVD (maybe) (Ian Pascoe)
>6. Re:  Go on Linux, was Re: Chess Tournament? (Neil Greenwood)
>7. Re:  LVD (maybe) (Neil Greenwood)
>8. Re:  LVD (maybe) (Ian Pascoe)
>9. Re:  Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home machine.
>   (Gordon)
>   10.  Scrambled screen (Greg Herdman)
>   11. Re:  Scrambled screen (Daniel Rhodes-Mumby)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 12:31:38 +0100
> From: mac 
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non ubuntu related question- Keyboard
>   shortcuts for google reader in Android
> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
> Message-ID: <4a0ea41a.6020...@gmx.co.uk>
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> javadayaz wrote:
>   
>> Again All these shortcuts work on a normal keyboard and not android.
>> 
>
> Ah yes, sorry -- I see from various blogs and forums that people are 
> bemoaning the absence of keyboard shortcuts for Reader on Android. 
> Looks like you may be unlucky with this for now?
>
> mac
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:14:11 +0100
> From: John 
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home
>   machine.
> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
> Message-ID: <4a0eca33.3070...@sky.com>
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> I am trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a vista machine. I got to the 
> install bit, and it showed that it was installing amd68 not i386. I want 
> to install the i386 as that is what I know. Can somebody give me the url 
> to the i386 installer for wubi? I cant seem to find it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> John.
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:13:27 +0100
> From: "Ian Pascoe" 
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe)
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" 
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> Hi Folks
>
> I think the correct acronym  is LVD - it's the tool that can make multiple
> HDDs look like a single HDD on a machine.
>
> Anyhow, a quick question on how it works.
>
> If you set up an installation using this tool, can you remove one of the
> participating drives and use it on another machine with no problems?  That
> is to say if you have 2 SATA drives and you want to physically move one
> drive to another machine, will it just connect and go, or do you have to do
> something with the tool first before removal to re-create a properly
> formatted drive?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:25:27 +0100
> From: "Alan Lord (News)" 
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe)
> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
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> On 16/05/09 16:13, Ian Pascoe wrote:
>   
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> I think the correct acronym  is LVD - it's the tool that can make multiple
>> HDDs look like a single HDD on a machine.
>> 
>
> I think you mean LVM.
>
> Logical Volume Management.
>
> Google/Wikipedia are your friends.
>
> Al
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:23:21 +0100
> From: "Ian Pascoe" 
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe)
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" 
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Hi Al
>
> Ah-ha,  everything becomes clearer with the right acronym!  Thanks.
>
> However, still not too sure about things having read the documentation.
>
> Can someone confirm for me please that:
>
> - the disk / partition's metadata is left

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home machine.....

2009-05-17 Thread John
Hi, I got it fixed. I was using the Wubi.exe installer from the website, 
and it was downloading the wrong version. Now that you have asked the 
question, I am not sure. I know it wasnt the i386 version. Once you got 
past the initial install, it said it was installing the other version. I 
had actually installed it once, and couldnt use the deb installer, which 
is how I came to first realise, then I uninstalled it, then redownloaded 
the installer, then tried again, and that was when I saw what it was 
downloading. I could not get the i386 installer, even though the machine 
I was using is a 32bit machine it was downloading the 64bit version. I 
think there might be something wrong with the wubi.exe installer on the 
wubi site.

I eventually found out that you can install it via the disk. I didnt 
realise first of all that it would show if you didnt restart the laptop, 
just insert the disc and let it run. Once I found that it worked, and 
now I have the right version, and its working. Its also updated really 
well too, plus I have the right software sources updated and installed. 
I am having a few problems with flash stuff, and I know the flash player 
is installed, but its very slow. Which is strange as its quite a fast 
machine. I was very impressed with the way it works on a vista machine 
though, which is a surprise. I know its not the best way to have Ubuntu 
installed, but for a beginner who is not good with partitioning, its a 
very good way to get used to Ubuntu.

Sorry if that sounds a bit waffly. I hope you can understand what I'm 
saying.

John.

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> On 05/17/09 08:06, Gordon wrote:
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>> John wrote:
>> 
>>> I am trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a vista machine. I got to the 
>>> install bit, and it showed that it was installing amd68 not i386. 
>>>   
>> Where did you see that and how are you trying to install WUBI? (I have 
>> the same setup and didn't see any message about this at all)
>>
>>
>> 
> Are you sure it didn't say amd64, not amd68?
>
> - -- 
> Many thanks
> Harry Rickards
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home machine.....

2009-05-17 Thread Harry Rickards
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On 05/17/09 08:06, Gordon wrote:
> John wrote:
>> I am trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a vista machine. I got to the 
>> install bit, and it showed that it was installing amd68 not i386. 
> 
> Where did you see that and how are you trying to install WUBI? (I have 
> the same setup and didn't see any message about this at all)
> 
> 
Are you sure it didn't say amd64, not amd68?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Scrambled screen

2009-05-17 Thread Daniel Rhodes-Mumby
On Sun, 17 May 2009 08:29:07 +0100, Greg Herdman  
wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> I'm really new to the Ubuntu scene; got involved about 6 months ago.
> Everything has been working fine until a recent update session. An
> incomplete update was signalled (I 'd just installed ClamTk and PiTiVi a
> day or so earlier. At first the screen dropped into 'basic' low-res
> mode. I managed to reset it using the appropriate desktop apppication
> (forgot it's name!) but the resolution wasn't quite as previously, so I
> tried to tweak it. Result - totally scrambled screen such that the
> desktop is unusable.
>
> I've been making basic use of Live mode from the installation CD, which
> works well with everything looking fine. I can access the harddrive,
> save and retrieve files, read and write removable media and also print.
> The downsides of Live user mode, however, are substantial, particularly
> in terms of speed, so I need to get back to my original settings.
>
> DSo, my question - I've noted a recent thread that seems to imply that I
> could reinstall over my current installation which would leave all my
> files within 'home' intact. Is this so?
> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04LTS (Hardy Heron) on a desktop.
>
> Any ideas - much appreciated.
>
> Greg
>
>

I believe the Ubiquity Preserve Home spec was targeted and achieved for Hardy.

If I'm correct in this belief then you can indeed reinstall Hardy (and indeed 
you could upgrade to a more recent version of Ubuntu, although of course this 
is a matter of preference) without damaging the contents of /home, as long as 
you specified a separate partition for it in your original installation.

If you did then you can run preserve /home quite easily (assuming I can 
correctly recall the steps involved in doing so):
Run through the Ubuntu installer until you reach the partitioning stage
Choose manual partitioning
Select the partition with /home on it and choose to use it
Choose the correct filesystem, but also choose NOT to format it
Change the mountpoint to be /home
Setup your other partitions appropriately and finish the installation

Working from memory, that's the correct (and easy) procedure; it does hang on 
the existence of /home as a separate partition already, though. You could work 
around that by migrating the content to a new partition while preserving all 
the necessary file attributes and then choosing this partition during 
installation, of course.

It's probably best to wait for someone else to confirm the procedure to 
preserve /home before you try, though; whilst I've done it many times, my 
memory isn't always reliable and I'd rather that it wasn't responsible for the 
loss of any of your data.

Daniel
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[ubuntu-uk] Scrambled screen

2009-05-17 Thread Greg Herdman
Hi Everyone,
I'm really new to the Ubuntu scene; got involved about 6 months ago. 
Everything has been working fine until a recent update session. An 
incomplete update was signalled (I 'd just installed ClamTk and PiTiVi a 
day or so earlier. At first the screen dropped into 'basic' low-res 
mode. I managed to reset it using the appropriate desktop apppication 
(forgot it's name!) but the resolution wasn't quite as previously, so I 
tried to tweak it. Result - totally scrambled screen such that the 
desktop is unusable.

I've been making basic use of Live mode from the installation CD, which 
works well with everything looking fine. I can access the harddrive, 
save and retrieve files, read and write removable media and also print. 
The downsides of Live user mode, however, are substantial, particularly 
in terms of speed, so I need to get back to my original settings.

DSo, my question - I've noted a recent thread that seems to imply that I 
could reinstall over my current installation which would leave all my 
files within 'home' intact. Is this so?
I'm using Ubuntu 8.04LTS (Hardy Heron) on a desktop.

Any ideas - much appreciated.

Greg


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home machine.....

2009-05-17 Thread Gordon
John wrote:
> I am trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a vista machine. I got to the 
> install bit, and it showed that it was installing amd68 not i386. 

Where did you see that and how are you trying to install WUBI? (I have 
the same setup and didn't see any message about this at all)


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