Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shell Access for VPS server
On 07/07/09 01:24, Sean Miller wrote: Not on my Ubuntu machine, my default user is still using bash. I would be surprised if the default shell is bash. /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash as Dave explained. If you look at a user's default shell in /etc/passwd you will see most (if not all) point to bin/sh. (Although interestingly I note that root points to bin/bash). In /bin you have both shell interpreters: bash and dash. And when writing scripts you put the shell at the top anyway, and that's been for me #!/bin/bash in recent history. This is correct. But many default scripts in Ubuntu will say #!/bin/sh Therefore if writing shell scripts I believe bash is still the one you want. Bash is probably the most widespread and consistent shell I agree. When I write scripts I normally point them at bash. Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
I paid about £180 for it on eBay. LeeGroups wrote: Ronnie Tucker wrote: LeeGroups wrote: Colin Murphy wrote: On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote: Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed. Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much. Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have PAC code in hand and consider myself between contracts. Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim only) and the best I can find is 1Gb. I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do seem the best. I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for voice that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option. When I mentioned this type of usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed. I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and move to internet radio streaming instead. Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the bleeding edge for this? Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was meant to go to Javad directly. Yes, the G1 has it's own tariff on T-Mobile, it's due to the G1 chatting to Google 24/7. You can't get the tariff without buying a G1. I've had mine six months and used a lot of bandwidth, can't say how much exactly but a lot... No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream music, it's brilliant, as long as you've remembered to charge the battery! The cheapest tariff they do is £25/month, 200 txts/200mins (though I think I got a special with 400 txts), and I paid £40 (I think) for the phone. I don't you'll beat it, on sim only deal, and having to pay for the G1. Lee What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8) then stick a 3 SIM in it. As long as the 3 SIM is activated and using data then it'll work dandy. They have a £5/mth bolt-on with unlimited data, you just use £5 from your available balance (if over £5) to buy the bolt-on. I hardly use mine for calls (ironic for a mobile phone) so I put about £10 in it every few months. :D The G1 is easily the best phone I've ever had and I wouldn't part with it. But how much did you pay for the G1 can I ask? -- Ronnie Tucker ron...@ronnietucker.co.uk www.RonnieTucker.co.uk Fb: facebook.com/profile.php?id=585438496 TWITTER: twitter.com/ronnietucker MSN: ronnietuc...@hotmail.com Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shell Access for VPS server
William Anderson wrote: Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 07/07/09 01:24, Sean Miller wrote: Not on my Ubuntu machine, my default user is still using bash. I would be surprised if the default shell is bash. /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash as Dave explained. If you look at a user's default shell in /etc/passwd you will see most (if not all) point to bin/sh. (Although interestingly I note that root points to bin/bash). nope, /bin/sh may have been changed to point to dash instead of bash, but new users are created with their shell set to bash. Every new account I've set up on every ubuntu box i've set up lately gets bash as their shell. I forgot to mention, there's also a difference between role accounts being set to sh and user accounts being set to bash. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shell Access for VPS server
2009/7/6 John jake...@sky.com: Hi everybody, I was just wondering, is there any difference between Linux Shell and Ubuntu Shell access? Also does anybody have any website I can look at to learn shell script? A good place to start IMO is http://en.flossmanuals.net/gnulinux. It'll give you a gentle introduction to the command line and later on starts talking about variables, etc. So you should be able to start building up your own scripts. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Windows 7 same as Ubuntu........
Has anybody seen this, and does anybody have Windows 7 to compare. I find this quite interesting though. http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2770tag=nl.e550 John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shell Access for VPS server
On 07/07/09 08:20, William Anderson wrote:
Alan Lord (News) wrote:
On 07/07/09 01:24, Sean Miller wrote:
Not on my Ubuntu machine, my default user is still using bash.
I would be surprised if the default shell is bash.
/bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash as Dave explained.
If you look at a user's default shell in /etc/passwd you will see most
(if not all) point to bin/sh. (Although interestingly I note that root
points to bin/bash).
nope, /bin/sh may have been changed to point to dash instead of bash,
but new users are created with their shell set to bash. Every new
account I've set up on every ubuntu box i've set up lately gets bash as
their shell.
That's interesting. I wonder when this changed? Ubuntu was [in]famous
for it's use of dash a couple of years ago but I just created a new test
user and it's default shell is indeed bash.
Looking into /etc further however, the picture becomes somewhat cloudier...
/etc/adduser.conf specifies /bin/bash as the default login shell.
/etc/default/useradd specifies /bin/sh
# The SHELL variable specifies the default login shell on your
# system.
# Similar to DHSELL in adduser. However, we use sh here because
# useradd is a low level utility and should be as general
And /etc/login.defs (Which is referred to by man useradd for changing
the default behaviour of useradd) has an interesting option FAKE_SHELL
which can be used to call /bin/fakeshell first - although this is not
present on my system.
You may all be thinking default shell means the shell new users are
set with to what sh points to.
I meant default shell as the one set in /etc/passwd which is what they
are assigned when they first login.
The default shell is also what your shell script will point to if you
don't start the file with a #!/bin/${SHELL}.
Looking through that again, it's interesting to note that all *system*
users which require a shell are set to /bin/sh and *real* users (i.e.
actual people and root) are set to /bin/bash.
Dash *is* actually the default shell for Ubuntu.
In Ubuntu 6.10, the default system shell, /bin/sh, was changed to dash
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
The default *login* shell is bash.
Interesting little dig around that.
I also discovered the /etc/alternatives directory which is debian's way
to manage defaults when there are multiple choices such as with text
editors etc. man update-alternatives explains more.
Al
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 7 same as Ubuntu........
John wrote: Has anybody seen this, and does anybody have Windows 7 to compare. I find this quite interesting though. http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2770tag=nl.e550 John I did have Windows 7 installed, in fact I'll be sticking it on the wife's PC this week too. I'd agree with some of the article, I mean a lot of things teenagers do now are web based - Facebook, Youtube, Gmail, Hotmail, MySpace, Twitter, Bebo, hey even MSN is now web based. Whenever my step kids (who are all in their teens) use the PC they fire up a browser, they never bother looking at any of other applications (never mind if they're on a Windows or Ubuntu based PC). Of course this wouldn't apply to everyone, some people still do need Windows apps or some do use Linux apps, but for the basic user who just wants to keep in touch with their friends then usually they just need a browser (hey my step kids have even happily used the browser on the Wii). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shell Access for VPS server
Lucy wrote: 2009/7/6 John jake...@sky.com: Hi everybody, I was just wondering, is there any difference between Linux Shell and Ubuntu Shell access? Also does anybody have any website I can look at to learn shell script? A good place to start IMO is http://en.flossmanuals.net/gnulinux. It'll give you a gentle introduction to the command line and later on starts talking about variables, etc. So you should be able to start building up your own scripts. Hi Lucy, that is just what I need, instructions and pictures, to show exactly what they are saying. Its very basic, but it shows me how to do things. Thank you so much. I want to say thank you to everybody else as well, for giving me directions to websites, they will come in handy, as I learn. I am finding it quite scarey to be honest, I havent had to learn anything like this for years. I really appreciate everybody's help on this group. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 7 same as Ubuntu........
My two lads use only one thing outside of web browser and that is games and that's changing as they prefer Eve rather than paying through the nose for buggy software. I personally, am a Google fan so do everything via that with only my Story 'Writers cafe' software separately. when that appears online I will change. I have an Acer One and just put Moblin onto it and what a little distribution that is going to be. Dale On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: John wrote: Has anybody seen this, and does anybody have Windows 7 to compare. I find this quite interesting though. http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2770tag=nl.e550 John I did have Windows 7 installed, in fact I'll be sticking it on the wife's PC this week too. I'd agree with some of the article, I mean a lot of things teenagers do now are web based - Facebook, Youtube, Gmail, Hotmail, MySpace, Twitter, Bebo, hey even MSN is now web based. Whenever my step kids (who are all in their teens) use the PC they fire up a browser, they never bother looking at any of other applications (never mind if they're on a Windows or Ubuntu based PC). Of course this wouldn't apply to everyone, some people still do need Windows apps or some do use Linux apps, but for the basic user who just wants to keep in touch with their friends then usually they just need a browser (hey my step kids have even happily used the browser on the Wii). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shell Access for VPS server
2009/7/7 John jake...@sky.com: Lucy wrote: A good place to start IMO is http://en.flossmanuals.net/gnulinux. It'll give you a gentle introduction to the command line and later on starts talking about variables, etc. So you should be able to start building up your own scripts. Hi Lucy, that is just what I need, instructions and pictures, to show exactly what they are saying. Its very basic, but it shows me how to do things. Thank you so much. That's great. I've recommended it to a few people now, but I was never sure how useful they found it. It's good to hear that you'll find it useful though. I want to say thank you to everybody else as well, for giving me directions to websites, they will come in handy, as I learn. I am finding it quite scarey to be honest, I havent had to learn anything like this for years. I really appreciate everybody's help on this group. Learning something that's brand new can be daunting but it should also be good fun. So enjoy it and let us know how you get on! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 7 same as Ubuntu........
What is Moblin, I have an Acer One with Ubuntu 9.04 on it, what does it do? Does it run off the netbook or what? John Dale Clarke wrote: My two lads use only one thing outside of web browser and that is games and that's changing as they prefer Eve rather than paying through the nose for buggy software. I personally, am a Google fan so do everything via that with only my Story 'Writers cafe' software separately. when that appears online I will change. I have an Acer One and just put Moblin onto it and what a little distribution that is going to be. Dale On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk mailto:r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: John wrote: Has anybody seen this, and does anybody have Windows 7 to compare. I find this quite interesting though. http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2770tag=nl.e550 http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2770tag=nl.e550 John I did have Windows 7 installed, in fact I'll be sticking it on the wife's PC this week too. I'd agree with some of the article, I mean a lot of things teenagers do now are web based - Facebook, Youtube, Gmail, Hotmail, MySpace, Twitter, Bebo, hey even MSN is now web based. Whenever my step kids (who are all in their teens) use the PC they fire up a browser, they never bother looking at any of other applications (never mind if they're on a Windows or Ubuntu based PC). Of course this wouldn't apply to everyone, some people still do need Windows apps or some do use Linux apps, but for the basic user who just wants to keep in touch with their friends then usually they just need a browser (hey my step kids have even happily used the browser on the Wii). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 7 same as Ubuntu........
John Just go here http://moblin.org/ Its a Linux Foundation project. Dale On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:09 PM, John jake...@sky.com wrote: What is Moblin, I have an Acer One with Ubuntu 9.04 on it, what does it do? Does it run off the netbook or what? John Dale Clarke wrote: My two lads use only one thing outside of web browser and that is games and that's changing as they prefer Eve rather than paying through the nose for buggy software. I personally, am a Google fan so do everything via that with only my Story 'Writers cafe' software separately. when that appears online I will change. I have an Acer One and just put Moblin onto it and what a little distribution that is going to be. Dale On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk mailto:r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: John wrote: Has anybody seen this, and does anybody have Windows 7 to compare. I find this quite interesting though. http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2770tag=nl.e550 http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2770tag=nl.e550 John I did have Windows 7 installed, in fact I'll be sticking it on the wife's PC this week too. I'd agree with some of the article, I mean a lot of things teenagers do now are web based - Facebook, Youtube, Gmail, Hotmail, MySpace, Twitter, Bebo, hey even MSN is now web based. Whenever my step kids (who are all in their teens) use the PC they fire up a browser, they never bother looking at any of other applications (never mind if they're on a Windows or Ubuntu based PC). Of course this wouldn't apply to everyone, some people still do need Windows apps or some do use Linux apps, but for the basic user who just wants to keep in touch with their friends then usually they just need a browser (hey my step kids have even happily used the browser on the Wii). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Server Suppliers
Hi Guys, Company hat on today, apologies ;) I'm looking for reccomendations for a supplier of cheap, reliable basic spec tower servers of about: 2x 2.6 GHZ CPU 2GB RAM 250GB Sata Hard Disk Disk CD/DVD Sata Disk drive No OS, display, keyboard, mouse etc... No manufacturer warranty required and: 2x 2.6 GHZ CPU 2GB RAM 2x 250GB Sata Hard Disk Disk RAID Controller CD/DVD Sata Disk drive No OS, display, keyboard, mouse etc... No manufacturer warranty required We would like professional looking cases etc as these servers will be on client sites powering their phone system with our Asterisk-based VOIP system on them. Dell who have supplied us servers prviously have discontinued their Poweredge SC440 range and now want to give us a much worse deal for servers to supply to our customers. Any suggestions would really be welcome - I'm sure we can get a better deal! Cheers Tim -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server Suppliers
Hi Tim, I have used these for many years for both rack mount systems and desktop boxes. They are based in the Southampton Sentral Royal Mail House Terminus Terrace Southampton SO14 3FD Speak to David Mason on Sales: 0845 644 8016 [National lo-call rate] General: 023 8021 1266 Hope this helps regards Huet Bartels http://www.sentralsystems.com/ On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 08:18 -0700, Tim Dobson wrote: Hi Guys, Company hat on today, apologies ;) I'm looking for reccomendations for a supplier of cheap, reliable basic spec tower servers of about: 2x 2.6 GHZ CPU 2GB RAM 250GB Sata Hard Disk Disk CD/DVD Sata Disk drive No OS, display, keyboard, mouse etc... No manufacturer warranty required and: 2x 2.6 GHZ CPU 2GB RAM 2x 250GB Sata Hard Disk Disk RAID Controller CD/DVD Sata Disk drive No OS, display, keyboard, mouse etc... No manufacturer warranty required We would like professional looking cases etc as these servers will be on client sites powering their phone system with our Asterisk-based VOIP system on them. Dell who have supplied us servers prviously have discontinued their Poweredge SC440 range and now want to give us a much worse deal for servers to supply to our customers. Any suggestions would really be welcome - I'm sure we can get a better deal! Cheers Tim -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server Suppliers
Sentral are good, DNUK (http://www.dnuk.com/) are also very god at what they do. M. Quoting huet bartels hbart...@i-neda.com: Hi Tim, I have used these for many years for both rack mount systems and desktop boxes. They are based in the Southampton Sentral Royal Mail House Terminus Terrace Southampton SO14 3FD Speak to David Mason on Sales: 0845 644 8016 [National lo-call rate] General: 023 8021 1266 Hope this helps regards Huet Bartels http://www.sentralsystems.com/ On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 08:18 -0700, Tim Dobson wrote: Hi Guys, Company hat on today, apologies ;) I'm looking for reccomendations for a supplier of cheap, reliable basic spec tower servers of about: 2x 2.6 GHZ CPU 2GB RAM 250GB Sata Hard Disk Disk CD/DVD Sata Disk drive No OS, display, keyboard, mouse etc... No manufacturer warranty required and: 2x 2.6 GHZ CPU 2GB RAM 2x 250GB Sata Hard Disk Disk RAID Controller CD/DVD Sata Disk drive No OS, display, keyboard, mouse etc... No manufacturer warranty required We would like professional looking cases etc as these servers will be on client sites powering their phone system with our Asterisk-based VOIP system on them. Dell who have supplied us servers prviously have discontinued their Poweredge SC440 range and now want to give us a much worse deal for servers to supply to our customers. Any suggestions would really be welcome - I'm sure we can get a better deal! Cheers Tim -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server Suppliers
On 07/07/09 16:18, Tim Dobson wrote: Hi Guys, Company hat on today, apologies ;) I'm looking for reccomendations for a supplier of cheap, reliable basic spec tower servers of about: Also check out http://nakedcomputers.org for lots of suppliers of computers of all kinds without operating systems. I have had good experience with Novatech in the past for Naked laptops and I know they do sell server systems too. Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server Suppliers
Hi Guys, Company hat on today, apologies ;) I'm looking for reccomendations for a supplier of cheap, reliable basic spec tower servers of about: http://www.serversdirect.co.uk/ are pretty good on price: HP ProLiant ML110 G5 Intel Dual-Core Xeon 3065 / 2.33 GHz 1 GB RAM / 8 GB (max) 1 x 160 GB - standard - Serial ATA-300 - 7200 rpm Limited warranty - parts and labour - 1 year £199.97 ex. vat. Crappy embedded RAID rubbish built in, but I guess you could disable it and set the controller to direct access. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] No IE in Windows 7
Sean Miller wrote: European buyers of Windows 7 will have to download and install a web browser for themselves. Bowing to European competition rules, Microsoft Windows 7 will ship without Internet Explorer *snip http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8096701.stm That could be quite a turning point in the browser wars. Sean Yeh, but its costing us, MS are charging the EU almost a 1/3rd more than elsewhere for W7 upgrades. It seems that MS are going to make us pay for that. John. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Just when we thought all the mainsteam Linux boxes had gone...
Misco part number 156002 arrives... http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=353088 Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] No IE in Windows 7
That's all the more reason for people to switch to a free alternative like Ubuntu. David King John Matthews wrote: Yeh, but its costing us, MS are charging the EU almost a 1/3rd more than elsewhere for W7 upgrades. It seems that MS are going to make us pay for that. John. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam a s a security camera
On Monday 06 July 2009 23:06:55 LeeGroups wrote: Colin Murphy wrote: But how much did you pay for the G1? £180 via an Ebay auction, plus another £10 to get it unlocked. I think I will have to spend a little more and get a bigger battery, very tempted to go for http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY26TMG1-BK -- co...@spudulike.me.uk Gotta go, things to be, people to do, and stuff to, err, stuff. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam a s a security camera
On Monday 06 July 2009 23:05:57 LeeGroups wrote: Colin Murphy wrote: I am very tempted to take the time to root my G1, maybe even run Debian arm, unless there is a Ubuntu equivalent, he says, desperately trying to claw the thread back on topic. Root it, it's a piece of cake, if a little scary in places... Let's you use newer versions of Android month before they are generally available. I was running the JF version which include most of the cupcake updates back in Feb, with all the multi-touch and auto-rotation stuff all working! Have you been tempted to go one stage further and install something other than Android? If you have, what advantages are there? -- co...@spudulike.me.uk Gotta go, things to be, people to do, and stuff to, err, stuff. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
it's a piece of cake, if a little scary in places... Let's you use newer versions of Android month before they are generally available. I was running the JF version which include most of the cupcake updates back in Feb, with all the multi-touch and auto-rotation stuff all working! Have you been tempted to go one stage further and install something other than Android? If you have, what advantages are there? No, not yet. I need something that's stable, I do actually use it as phone! I can't see any advantages of other builds, apart from a) because you can (though I have to admit that's a pretty strong reason in my book) and b) they look very pretty... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
But how much did you pay for the G1? £180 via an Ebay auction, plus another £10 to get it unlocked. I think I will have to spend a little more and get a bigger battery, very tempted to go for http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY26TMG1-BK That's expensive, same thing on ebay for less than £9... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] No IE in Windows 7
Liam Wilson wrote: David King wrote: That's all the more reason for people to switch to a free alternative like Ubuntu. David King John Matthews wrote: Yeh, but its costing us, MS are charging the EU almost a 1/3rd more than elsewhere for W7 upgrades. It seems that MS are going to make us pay for that. John. Well, it doesn't concern me in the slightest. I haven't touched a windows box in the past month or two, and the box I do have running windows won't run anything other than XP not even vista or Ubuntu. Still, all the more reason to switch to Linux or use Firefox :) Liam Wilson -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
