Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-09 Thread Bob Clough
Knew i wouldnt be able to hold out for long, just bought one!

On 8 April 2010 21:28, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I have sent the email, its currently awaiting approval, the alsa sh file
 asked me if i wanted to upload it the second time round, so it is now
 located here:
 http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=4012bb42964e3c87ae7ff4e0561d9ee9d3eb5e2c

 Versions and everything, thats what i gave the devel list.

 ~Daniel

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[ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: [backstage] Open Source Show And Tell]

2010-04-09 Thread Tim Dobson
I don't know if people have already seen this but it might be cool to go 
to for people in the south east.

 Original Message 
Subject: [backstage] Open Source Show And Tell
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:50:42 +0100
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Reply-To: backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
To: backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk

Apologies for the mass mailing, but I'm organising a (free) event next week
that might well interest some of the readers on this list. It's the Open
Source Show And Tell, takes place at our offices near Borough Market in
London, and everyone is welcome. You can find out more here:

http://www.ossat.org
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/5393063/

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-09 Thread John Stevenson
Just bought my Joggler online.

Talking to assistant in O2 shop, she was saying they are sold out in all the
shops in London.  New deliveries are expected on Thurdsay apparently.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-09 Thread Andy
On 8 April 2010 11:25, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmtoday/cmdebate/32.htm

I got an error loading that URL, given it has cmtoday in it I guess
it may only be valid on the day the debate is held.

The following link has the list of who voted Yes and who voted No:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmhansrd/cm100407/debtext/100407-0032.htm#1004088001556

189 MPs voted Yes (Aye), 47 voted No (Noe).
There are 646 MPs so most of them couldn't even be bothered to vote.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-09 Thread mac
Andy wrote:
snip
 189 MPs voted Yes (Aye), 47 voted No (Noe).
 There are 646 MPs so most of them couldn't even be bothered to vote.

Worse yet, according to press reports many of those who voted did not 
attend the preceding debate.

mac


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-09 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 09/04/10 16:58, mac wrote:
 Andy wrote:
 snip
 189 MPs voted Yes (Aye), 47 voted No (Noe).
 There are 646 MPs so most of them couldn't even be bothered to vote.

 Worse yet, according to press reports many of those who voted did not
 attend the preceding debate.

Most of the voters were Labour. Only about 5% of the tories voted at all 
(9 IIRC) and the Liberals were almost all the No votes. Directhex (Jo 
Shields) tweeted some numbers on this yesterday.

Quite interesting.

Al


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-09 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
On 9 April 2010 16:58, mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
 Andy wrote:
 snip
 189 MPs voted Yes (Aye), 47 voted No (Noe).
 There are 646 MPs so most of them couldn't even be bothered to vote.

 Worse yet, according to press reports many of those who voted did not
 attend the preceding debate.

 mac

Granted this is bad, but how bad is it? This is the only vote I've
ever followed closely so I have no idea whether this is normal or
whether it is out of the ordinary.

Tom

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-09 Thread jim.cameron
Andy:
 189 MPs voted Yes (Aye), 47 voted No (Noe).

The majority of whom weren't present at the debate. You might very well think 
the bill was railroaded through by whatever MPs the whips could round up and 
herd into the chamber to vote the party line without even hearing it; I 
couldn't possibly comment.

 There are 646 MPs so most of them couldn't even be bothered to vote.

And some 20,000 letters and emails in opposition, according to 38degrees. On 
average, that's more than 30 each. Surely there's only so many times you can 
send out a form letter full of platitudes before you start to think, maybe 
people /don't want/ this thing to pass?

So what can we do now? Donate to the Pirate Party (unfortunately, there is no 
pirate candidate in my constituency), donate to the Open Rights Group, email 
our candidates, buttonhole them when they come round canvassing ... anything 
else?

I was somewhat heartened to see that the front page article in today's Metro 
was strongly critical (in so far as a newspaper article can be in these days of 
journalistic balance) both of the bill and the appallingly undemocratic way 
it was rammed through Parliament.

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[ubuntu-uk] 3G wireless on 9.10 or 10.4

2010-04-09 Thread Dave Smith
Long time listener, first time caller

 

Have acer aspire one netbook with 9.10.  

 

I have until now been using a phone with an app to convert 3G to 802.11g
but the cost per MB through a phone just isn't comparable to the cost
per MB through a dongle.  So I want to switch to a dongle.

 

(As an aside, why the blinkin flip??  This has actually quite annoyed
me; why a MB delivered through 3G to a phone cost soo much more than
a MB delivered through 3G to a dongle).

 

I would like to use Orange and they say the dongle does not support
Linux.  I suspect the dongle does, and orange are choosing not to
(whereas another of the big five have set up a repository to support
their dongles). From what I have read online, some folk have had some
success with some dongle models.

 

Anyone using a dongle from orange with an ubuntu netbook?  Which model
dongle did you use?  Or which service provider seems the most Linux
friendly?

 

Cheers

 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPhone software....

2010-04-09 Thread John Matthews

Hi everybody,

I just wanted to say sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I 
wanted to be sure I had done verything I cuold to get this working 
before I posted. Not had much success to get it working on Karmic, I can 
get Rhythmbox to see the phone, but I cant get anything else to work. 
The icon that is supposed to appear on the desktop doesnt appear. Tried 
everything to get it to work, but I just dont understand enough of what 
is being asked, to attempt to try anymore.


On my notebook, which has Lucid on it, it seems to work out of the box, 
I didnt have to install anything. The only problem is, I have music on 
the netbook, but it needs to be converted to whatever iPlayer works 
with, and dont know how to get that to work. I did watch part of the 
video, which I really appreciate by the way, that was very helpful, and 
will watch it all as soon as I can. Is there any way to convert in Ubuntu?


Thank you for all your help, I really appreciate it.

John

On 08/04/10 23:26, Chris Rowson wrote:


Here I go, eating some humble pie.

popey just posted a link to an *amazing* video of Lucid Lynx (10.04)
doing things to, and having things done by, an iPhone.

Watch and wonder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGf4i_kxqRU

Al


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-09 Thread Rob Beard
On 09/04/10 17:06, jim.came...@buhlersortex.com wrote:
 Andy:
 189 MPs voted Yes (Aye), 47 voted No (Noe).

 The majority of whom weren't present at the debate. You might very well think 
 the bill was railroaded through by whatever MPs the whips could round up and 
 herd into the chamber to vote the party line without even hearing it; I 
 couldn't possibly comment.

 There are 646 MPs so most of them couldn't even be bothered to vote.


Sounds like a right shambles.  I contacted my local MP who I see on the 
list didn't vote at all, kinda makes me wonder if there is any point in 
MP's if they don't listen to the constituents.

 And some 20,000 letters and emails in opposition, according to 38degrees. On 
 average, that's more than 30 each. Surely there's only so many times you can 
 send out a form letter full of platitudes before you start to think, maybe 
 people /don't want/ this thing to pass?


Yep, I dare say any normal person would think... hang on a minute, maybe 
they have a point, but these are MP's.

 So what can we do now? Donate to the Pirate Party (unfortunately, there is no 
 pirate candidate in my constituency), donate to the Open Rights Group, email 
 our candidates, buttonhole them when they come round canvassing ... anything 
 else?

I'll certainly look at mentioning it to the candidates in my 
constituency, I wonder if it's worth contacting the local press for 
instance mentioning that I contacted my local MP but they didn't vote 
(either they couldn't be bothered or they had good reason not to vote, 
I'd certainly like to know either way).

 I was somewhat heartened to see that the front page article in today's Metro 
 was strongly critical (in so far as a newspaper article can be in these days 
 of journalistic balance) both of the bill and the appallingly undemocratic 
 way it was rammed through Parliament.

It's a shame that I can't get the Metro newspaper down here, at least I 
haven't seen it (last time I saw it was when I was working in Sheffield).

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 3G wireless on 9.10 or 10.4

2010-04-09 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 09/04/10 17:24, Dave Smith wrote:
 Long time listener, first time caller

Hello Dave,
snip /

 Anyone using a dongle from orange with an ubuntu netbook? Which model
 dongle did you use? Or which service provider seems the most Linux friendly?

Most recent dongles will work out of the box with Ubuntu.

I have an Option Icon 225 3G dongle from Orange that I have been using 
for over about 18months or so and it works just fine.

Most of the Huawei and other makes work fine too from what I can tell.

None of the providers will probably have a clue what you are talking 
about when you say Linux. They are not trained.

We are here though :-)

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 3G wireless on 9.10 or 10.4

2010-04-09 Thread Tony Pursell
On 9 Apr 2010 at 17:24, Dave Smith wrote:

 I would like to use Orange and they say the dongle does not support
 Linux.

My wife's got a Vodaphone dongle which works OK on my Ubuntu 
powered EEEPC.  I think the 'does not support Linux' comes mainly 
from the bundled Windows app that comes with them.  This will tell 
you, among other things, how much credit you have (if its a Pay as 
you Go one) and what your useage is.  But you can usually get this 
stuff on line from the telcos website.

Tony




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 3G wireless on 9.10 or 10.4

2010-04-09 Thread A J Binnie
On 9 April 2010 17:24, Dave Smith d...@p3computers.com wrote:

  Anyone using a dongle from orange with an ubuntu netbook?  Which model
 dongle did you use?  Or which service provider seems the most Linux
 friendly?

I bought a Huwei dongle from 3 and Linux handles it significantly better
than windows does. Plug it in and it should show up the network manager drop
down straight away. I've no experience with other networks.

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[ubuntu-uk] 3G wireless on 9.10 or 10.4

2010-04-09 Thread Alistair Munro
I have exactly the same arrangement. I have used dongles from BT, Vodafone and 
3 without much difficulty.

But there is a clear winner in terms of being OSS/Linux friendly. Vodafone have 
the Betavine project which is fully backed by the company and produces open 
source device support - including dongle drivers and monitoring software 
packedged for many distros. 

I use it and it's a good effort that voda should be commended for.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gadget Show Live Meet-Up

2010-04-09 Thread Ashley Whetter
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For those of you who still haven't gone, the show was great!

There were 2 stalls with linux that I saw.
One was from the Open University showing that you can run Ubuntu on a 5
year old PC with the same speed as modern windows.
The other was just a pda with Ubuntu on.

Ashley

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 3G wireless on 9.10 or 10.4

2010-04-09 Thread paul morgan-roach
 I would like to use Orange and they say the dongle does not support
 Linux.  I suspect the dongle does, and orange are choosing not to
 (whereas another of the big five have set up a repository to support
 their dongles). From what I have read online, some folk have had some
 success with some dongle models.


Hi Dave,

If it helps at all i was seriously impressed to find my USB dongle from O2 
worked out of the box on Ubuntu (Karmic)as soon as i plugged it in another 
option appeared in the network manager applet. 

On Fedora 11 it was very easy to set up as well.

hope this helps.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-09 Thread Steve
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:29:08 +0100, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:


 It's a shame that I can't get the Metro newspaper down here, at least I
 haven't seen it (last time I saw it was when I was working in Sheffield).

 Rob


http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/820835-digital-economy-bill-passes-as-critics-warn-of-catastrophic-disaster

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