Re: [ubuntu-uk] nvidia and lucid

[Bruce Durling]

Tim and John,

Thanks! I've passed this on to my friend.

cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal

[Daniel Case]

Ohhh, and do not forget sudo!!

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Daniel Case
wrote:

> You got it right, there just doesnt want to be a 1 there, and it does not
> want to be mounted:
>
> /dev/sdb :)
>
> #Warning: IT WILL WIPE THE WHOLE DRIVE!!#
>
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Colin Law wrote:
>
>> On 23 May 2010 21:27, Kris Douglas  wrote:
>> > On 23 May 2010 21:22, Tim Powys-Lybbe  wrote:
>> >>...
>> >> Problem 1: the USB sticks:
>> >> -
>> >> The 8 GB stick has no apparent fault as all the files on it can be seen
>> >> OK.
>> >> The 4 GB stick starts off as 4GB but formatting brings this down to 3.4
>> >> GB and this will not hold all of Stephen Ford's image.
>> >>
>> >> Problem 2: Loading Ubuntu to the stick:
>> >> --
>> >> I had originally done this on the 8 GB stick via the Windows program
>> >> Disk Imager which made two partitions.
>> >>
>> >> As this had not worked on the Joggler, I then tried following Stephen
>> >> Ford's simple instructions from his site.  I unzipped (un-tar, etc) his
>> >> file until I was left with this: joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin
>> >>
>> >> I then wiped the stick and reformatted it.
>> >>
>> >> The problem then came with his command of:
>> >>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of= bs=10M count=365
>> >> I did not know what should be translated to.  So I
>> >> tried:
>> >>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of=/dev/sdb1 bs=10M count=365
>> >> and got the response:
>> >>  dd: opening `/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
>> >>
>> >> My second attempt was with this command:
>> >>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin
>> >>  of=/media/C/joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin bs=10M count=365
>> >> and this got the response of:
>> >>  365+0 records in
>> >>  365+0 records out
>> >>  3827302400 bytes (3.8 GB) copied, 707.077 s, 5.4 MB/s
>> >>
>> >> As above, I put the stick in the Joggler and nothing useful resulted on
>> >> a reboot.
>> >
>> > Hello, the initial command looked correct, the location of the device
>> > is the name of where the usb stick is in the file system table, open
>> > Gparted/partition editor, you should see the usb device and it will be
>> > something like /dev/sdb
>> >
>> > then remember to type sudo before the command, just to see if you need
>> > root privilege to access the device. HTH
>>
>> Just as a corollary to this, it is not necessary to format the stick
>> before writing it with dd.  The formatting info is included in the
>> image.  So the output file is something like sdb which is the complete
>> stick rather than a partition.
>>
>> Colin
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal

[Daniel Case]

You got it right, there just doesnt want to be a 1 there, and it does not
want to be mounted:

/dev/sdb :)

#Warning: IT WILL WIPE THE WHOLE DRIVE!!#

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Colin Law  wrote:

> On 23 May 2010 21:27, Kris Douglas  wrote:
> > On 23 May 2010 21:22, Tim Powys-Lybbe  wrote:
> >>...
> >> Problem 1: the USB sticks:
> >> -
> >> The 8 GB stick has no apparent fault as all the files on it can be seen
> >> OK.
> >> The 4 GB stick starts off as 4GB but formatting brings this down to 3.4
> >> GB and this will not hold all of Stephen Ford's image.
> >>
> >> Problem 2: Loading Ubuntu to the stick:
> >> --
> >> I had originally done this on the 8 GB stick via the Windows program
> >> Disk Imager which made two partitions.
> >>
> >> As this had not worked on the Joggler, I then tried following Stephen
> >> Ford's simple instructions from his site.  I unzipped (un-tar, etc) his
> >> file until I was left with this: joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin
> >>
> >> I then wiped the stick and reformatted it.
> >>
> >> The problem then came with his command of:
> >>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of= bs=10M count=365
> >> I did not know what should be translated to.  So I
> >> tried:
> >>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of=/dev/sdb1 bs=10M count=365
> >> and got the response:
> >>  dd: opening `/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
> >>
> >> My second attempt was with this command:
> >>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin
> >>  of=/media/C/joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin bs=10M count=365
> >> and this got the response of:
> >>  365+0 records in
> >>  365+0 records out
> >>  3827302400 bytes (3.8 GB) copied, 707.077 s, 5.4 MB/s
> >>
> >> As above, I put the stick in the Joggler and nothing useful resulted on
> >> a reboot.
> >
> > Hello, the initial command looked correct, the location of the device
> > is the name of where the usb stick is in the file system table, open
> > Gparted/partition editor, you should see the usb device and it will be
> > something like /dev/sdb
> >
> > then remember to type sudo before the command, just to see if you need
> > root privilege to access the device. HTH
>
> Just as a corollary to this, it is not necessary to format the stick
> before writing it with dd.  The formatting info is included in the
> image.  So the output file is something like sdb which is the complete
> stick rather than a partition.
>
> Colin
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal

[Colin Law]

On 23 May 2010 21:27, Kris Douglas  wrote:
> On 23 May 2010 21:22, Tim Powys-Lybbe  wrote:
>>...
>> Problem 1: the USB sticks:
>> -
>> The 8 GB stick has no apparent fault as all the files on it can be seen
>> OK.
>> The 4 GB stick starts off as 4GB but formatting brings this down to 3.4
>> GB and this will not hold all of Stephen Ford's image.
>>
>> Problem 2: Loading Ubuntu to the stick:
>> --
>> I had originally done this on the 8 GB stick via the Windows program
>> Disk Imager which made two partitions.
>>
>> As this had not worked on the Joggler, I then tried following Stephen
>> Ford's simple instructions from his site.  I unzipped (un-tar, etc) his
>> file until I was left with this: joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin
>>
>> I then wiped the stick and reformatted it.
>>
>> The problem then came with his command of:
>>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of= bs=10M count=365
>> I did not know what should be translated to.  So I
>> tried:
>>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of=/dev/sdb1 bs=10M count=365
>> and got the response:
>>  dd: opening `/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
>>
>> My second attempt was with this command:
>>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin
>>  of=/media/C/joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin bs=10M count=365
>> and this got the response of:
>>  365+0 records in
>>  365+0 records out
>>  3827302400 bytes (3.8 GB) copied, 707.077 s, 5.4 MB/s
>>
>> As above, I put the stick in the Joggler and nothing useful resulted on
>> a reboot.
>
> Hello, the initial command looked correct, the location of the device
> is the name of where the usb stick is in the file system table, open
> Gparted/partition editor, you should see the usb device and it will be
> something like /dev/sdb
>
> then remember to type sudo before the command, just to see if you need
> root privilege to access the device. HTH

Just as a corollary to this, it is not necessary to format the stick
before writing it with dd.  The formatting info is included in the
image.  So the output file is something like sdb which is the complete
stick rather than a partition.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal

[Kris Douglas]

On 23 May 2010 21:22, Tim Powys-Lybbe  wrote:
> On 20 May at 13:48, Anton Piatek  wrote:
>
>> On 19 May 2010 22:46, Daniel Case  wrote:
>> > A tutorial i made is here for your referance, it should work :)
>> .
>>
>> If you are in a hurry, go to http://www.stephenford.org/joggler/ where
>> a wget command will get you a 4GB usb image, and a dd command will put
>> it on your usb key. Then just plug it in to your joggler and cycle
>> power. Incredibly easy to get started with Ubuntu on a Joggler.
>>
>> Though I did find gnome really badly suited to the touchscreen, so
>> need to think about window managers made more for touchscreens as it
>> is very difficult to even double click with a touchscreen... (also
>> menu's and similar are incredibly hard to click on unless you make the
>> font sizes huge, in which case they just get in the way a lot.. )
>
>
> I have got stuck again.  With both an 8 GB and a 4 GB stick in the
> Joggler, lights flash on the stick when I start the Joggler but after a
> minute or so Joggler fires up normally.
>
> Problem 1: the USB sticks:
> -
> The 8 GB stick has no apparent fault as all the files on it can be seen
> OK.
> The 4 GB stick starts off as 4GB but formatting brings this down to 3.4
> GB and this will not hold all of Stephen Ford's image.
>
> Problem 2: Loading Ubuntu to the stick:
> --
> I had originally done this on the 8 GB stick via the Windows program
> Disk Imager which made two partitions.
>
> As this had not worked on the Joggler, I then tried following Stephen
> Ford's simple instructions from his site.  I unzipped (un-tar, etc) his
> file until I was left with this: joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin
>
> I then wiped the stick and reformatted it.
>
> The problem then came with his command of:
>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of= bs=10M count=365
> I did not know what should be translated to.  So I
> tried:
>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of=/dev/sdb1 bs=10M count=365
> and got the response:
>  dd: opening `/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
>
> My second attempt was with this command:
>  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin
>  of=/media/C/joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin bs=10M count=365
> and this got the response of:
>  365+0 records in
>  365+0 records out
>  3827302400 bytes (3.8 GB) copied, 707.077 s, 5.4 MB/s
>
> As above, I put the stick in the Joggler and nothing useful resulted on
> a reboot.

Hello, the initial command looked correct, the location of the device
is the name of where the usb stick is in the file system table, open
Gparted/partition editor, you should see the usb device and it will be
something like /dev/sdb

then remember to type sudo before the command, just to see if you need
root privilege to access the device. HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] O2 Joggler: deal

[Tim Powys-Lybbe]

On 20 May at 13:48, Anton Piatek  wrote:

> On 19 May 2010 22:46, Daniel Case  wrote:
> > A tutorial i made is here for your referance, it should work :)
> .
> 
> If you are in a hurry, go to http://www.stephenford.org/joggler/ where
> a wget command will get you a 4GB usb image, and a dd command will put
> it on your usb key. Then just plug it in to your joggler and cycle
> power. Incredibly easy to get started with Ubuntu on a Joggler.
> 
> Though I did find gnome really badly suited to the touchscreen, so
> need to think about window managers made more for touchscreens as it
> is very difficult to even double click with a touchscreen... (also
> menu's and similar are incredibly hard to click on unless you make the
> font sizes huge, in which case they just get in the way a lot.. )


I have got stuck again.  With both an 8 GB and a 4 GB stick in the
Joggler, lights flash on the stick when I start the Joggler but after a
minute or so Joggler fires up normally.

Problem 1: the USB sticks:
-
The 8 GB stick has no apparent fault as all the files on it can be seen
OK.
The 4 GB stick starts off as 4GB but formatting brings this down to 3.4
GB and this will not hold all of Stephen Ford's image.

Problem 2: Loading Ubuntu to the stick:
--
I had originally done this on the 8 GB stick via the Windows program
Disk Imager which made two partitions.

As this had not worked on the Joggler, I then tried following Stephen
Ford's simple instructions from his site.  I unzipped (un-tar, etc) his
file until I was left with this: joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin

I then wiped the stick and reformatted it.

The problem then came with his command of:
  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of= bs=10M count=365
I did not know what should be translated to.  So I
tried:
  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin of=/dev/sdb1 bs=10M count=365
and got the response:
  dd: opening `/dev/sdb1': Permission denied

My second attempt was with this command:
  dd if=joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin
  of=/media/C/joggler_unr_9.10_v1.3a.bin bs=10M count=365
and this got the response of:
  365+0 records in
  365+0 records out
  3827302400 bytes (3.8 GB) copied, 707.077 s, 5.4 MB/s

As above, I put the stick in the Joggler and nothing useful resulted on
a reboot.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] nvidia and lucid

[Timothy Rittman]

On 22 May 2010 22:35, Bruce Durling > wrote:



/  Hi,

/>/
/>/  I have a friend running Lucid with nvidia and he is having trouble
/>/  with the video drivers//
/

Hello Bruce,
Have you tried running nvidia-xconfig from the command line?  Are you able
to get to the virtual terminals Ctrl-Alt-F1...




Hi Bruce,


I also had quite a few problems getting the nvidia drivers to work 
properly. I did get it working eventually (hope that's reassuring!). The 
following forum solved my problem, after going through forums with 
similar solutions to what you found above: 
http://70.87.46.147/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2252094


I filed a bug which shows my xorf.conf here: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu/+bug/578885


Not sure if that will solve the problem, but may give you a few more leads.

Good luck,

Tim

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

[Rowan Berkeley]

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 12:00 +0100, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 23 May 2010 08:57, Rowan Berkeley 
> wrote:
> > boot volume, 22.5GB. So I emailed them to ask what this was. 
> > However, even if it turns out to be genuine idle space that I could
> > bring into use, merging it with the volume that is configured for 
> > user files (now about two-thirds full), as opposed to merging it 
> > with the volume configured for operating system use, might be 
> > difficult.
> We can take a look at that. Can you paste the output of the following
> command:-
> sudo fdisk -l
> Where that's a lower case L at the end. This will simply list out the
> partitions on your system. Cheers, Al.

By contrast, Gparted says:

Partition, File System..Mt Pt...Size...Used.Unused.flags
/dev/sda1, ext3./...22.35..4.48..17.87..boot
/dev/sda2, unknown..22.35...
/dev/sda3, linux-swap3.72...
/dev/sda4, extended184.45...
.../dev/sda5...ext3./home..184.45127.65..56.81..

/dev/sda2 has a yellow triangle with exclamation point, and 'Information
about /dev/sda2' says:
"Unable to detect file system! Possible reasons are:
-The file system is damaged
-The file system is unknown to GParted
-There is no file system available (unformatted)"


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

[Daniel Drummond]

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 12:32 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 12:00 +0100, Alan Pope  wrote:
> > On 23 May 2010 08:57, Rowan Berkeley 
> > wrote:
> > > boot volume, 22.5GB. So I emailed them to ask what this was. 
> > > However, even if it turns out to be genuine idle space that I could
> > > bring into use, merging it with the volume that is configured for 
> > > user files (now about two-thirds full), as opposed to merging it 
> > > with the volume configured for operating system use, might be 
> > > difficult.
> > We can take a look at that. Can you paste the output of the following
> > command:-
> > sudo fdisk -l
> > Where that's a lower case L at the end. This will simply list out the
> > partitions on your system. Cheers, Al.
> 
> Al, I can't paste from the terminal, but I have copied what it says,
> adding dots to make sure the tabulation stays straight:
> 
> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0xd968820c
> 
> Device.Boot...Start...EndBlocks..Id..System
> /dev/sda1*...1291823438803+..83..Linux
> /dev/sda2.2919583623438835...83..Linux
> /dev/sda3.58376322.3903795...82..Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/sda4.6323...30401...193414567+...5..Extended
> /dev/sda5.6323...30401...193414536...83..Linux 
> 
> best,
> R
> 
> 

In the terminal use Ctrl-Shift-C to copy, after making a selection with
the mouse.  To paste into the terminal you can use Ctrl-Shift-V.
That'll save you some typing :-)

Daniel


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

[Rowan Berkeley]

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 12:00 +0100, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 23 May 2010 08:57, Rowan Berkeley 
> wrote:
> > boot volume, 22.5GB. So I emailed them to ask what this was. 
> > However, even if it turns out to be genuine idle space that I could
> > bring into use, merging it with the volume that is configured for 
> > user files (now about two-thirds full), as opposed to merging it 
> > with the volume configured for operating system use, might be 
> > difficult.
> We can take a look at that. Can you paste the output of the following
> command:-
> sudo fdisk -l
> Where that's a lower case L at the end. This will simply list out the
> partitions on your system. Cheers, Al.

Al, I can't paste from the terminal, but I have copied what it says,
adding dots to make sure the tabulation stays straight:

Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xd968820c

Device.Boot...Start...EndBlocks..Id..System
/dev/sda1*...1291823438803+..83..Linux
/dev/sda2.2919583623438835...83..Linux
/dev/sda3.58376322.3903795...82..Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda4.6323...30401...193414567+...5..Extended
/dev/sda5.6323...30401...193414536...83..Linux 

best,
R


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[ubuntu-uk] Gnome Shell

[chris]

I have been testing the Gnome Shell in lucid for the past few days and I
have to say I love it! The interface is slick, smart and while the
compositing manager (clutter) is not as feature rich as Compiz, its fast
and enabled from the off. 

I have been adding to the Ubuntu Wiki about the Gnome Shell:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/gnomeshell
The wiki page contains instructions on installing, testing and moving to
gnome shell.

I would recommend having a look to see if you like it,  

Chris

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This is my first post to the Ubuntu UK List.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux On Dell

[Tyler J. Wagner]

On Saturday 22 May 2010 13:50:00 Nigel Verity wrote:
> Re: Dianne Reuby's news that Dell say the use of any OS other than Windows
>  will invalidate the hardware guarantee.

I've run Ubuntu on Dell since 5.04. I've called for support 5 times across 5 
laptops - once for a bad fan, and 4 times for dark areas of the screen. In all 
cases the droid on the phone insists I try various Windows tech support. It 
goes something like this:

Dell: Right click on the background and select "Properties".
Me: (Reading Slashdot) OK.
Dell: Now try ...
Me: Nope, that didn't fix it.
(repeat a few times)
Dell: Sir, I'm sending a technician to replace your screen.
Me: Thank you.

Don't mention Linux to them. The one time I did, I was sent to a purgatory of 
"You have to reinstall from the recovery CD before we can support you". It's 
better to play along with the support game until you get what you want.

Tyler

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

[Alan Pope]

On 23 May 2010 08:57, Rowan Berkeley  wrote:
> boot volume, 22.5GB. So I emailed them to ask what this was. However,
> even if it turns out to be genuine idle space that I could bring into
> use, merging it with the volume that is configured for user files (now
> about two-thirds full), as opposed to merging it with the volume
> configured for operating system use, might be difficult.
>

We can take a look at that. Can you paste the output of the following command:-

sudo fdisk -l

Where that's a lower case L at the end. This will simply list out the
partitions on your system.

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

[Rowan Berkeley]

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 02:06 +0100, Mary Mooney 
wrote:
> Why don't you call LE?

In fact, I did email them. I have another query for them, about the way
they have configured the Lenovo N500: While I was using Gparted to
format the external hard disk, I noticed a block of memory on the
internal hard disk that appears not to be in use, the same size as the
boot volume, 22.5GB. So I emailed them to ask what this was. However,
even if it turns out to be genuine idle space that I could bring into
use, merging it with the volume that is configured for user files (now
about two-thirds full), as opposed to merging it with the volume
configured for operating system use, might be difficult. 


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