[ubuntu-uk] Upgrade woes

[Barry Titterton]

I have just tried to upgrade my sickly install of 10.04 to 10.10. The
install process failed just after half way when it threw up a window
which appeared to be asking me what I wanted to do with my modified
version of GRUB2. This window was positioned behind the progress window,
and I could only see the top quarter of the window, which contained a
drop down list of options of what to do with my current version of GRUB.
The bottom three quarters of the window were hidden so I could not
select any 'Accept' button. I was unable to move either window to one
side, nor shrink either window. The install stopped at this point and my
only option was to press the power button. My computer is now dead. I
shall have to download the ISO and try a fresh install.

Please note that I had added boot options to GRUB in an effort to solve
my reliability problems in 10.04.

Has anyone else seen this problem? I do not know if this is a bug that
needs filing, or another symptom of my faulty install of 10.04.

Barry


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Banks and Ubuntu support for business users

[michael]

I had this problem once when I upgraded to a beta of the next version of 
firefox.

The website refused to let me in due to the browser not being recognised 
and being a possible security issue.

One quick install of the User Agent Switcher plugin and pretending to be 
a different browser problem was solved.

Have had no problems recently with the banks but The Freemans mail order 
website has now decided to deny me use of the checkout facility even 
though it was fine last week.

Oh to live the life of a software outlaw in the eyes of businesses.

Michael

On 10/10/10 16:03, Bruno Girin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> A quick question I'd like to put to the list. The business web site of
> my bank doesn't work with Firefox on Ubuntu anymore (it used to), even
> though it works fine with Firefox on Mac. A support query I filed
> resulted in an answer by email along the lines of "we don't support
> Linux".
>
> How would you address such an issue with your bank or any supplier you
> deal with to convince them that they have an interest in supporting your
> chosen technical solution?
>
> And, as a community, is there anything we could do to help institutions
> and businesses support our operating system of choice?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.10 installation workshop in London

[pmgazz]

On 11/10/10 13:45, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

On 11/10/10 13:36, John Stevenson wrote:
   

 I am running a workshop at the University College London on the 13th, so it
 will be good practice for my own session.
   
   

Hello Paula,
I've just about recovered from the Ubuntu release party, so I will see
you tomorrow at your event.  I should get there around 12 noon.
 

Just in case; Tomorrow is the 12th. The date above says the 13th.

Al

   

John's is the 13th, mine is the 12th :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.10 installation workshop in London

[pmgazz]

On 11/10/10 13:36, John Stevenson wrote:


Hello Paula,
I've just about recovered from the Ubuntu release party, so I will see you
tomorrow at your event.  I should get there around 12 noon.

See you then.
   


Thanks John - look forward to seeing you :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Colin Law]

On 11 October 2010 19:40, Traveller  wrote:
> On 11/10/2010 11:29, Robert Holtzman wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 08:14:14PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>>
>>> Whoa! Hold it! Stop the world!
>>>
>>> I have not seen any message from John Matthews with the Subject of
>>> "Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10" in this list - except for the one to
>>> which I am now responding.
>>>
>>> What's going on, Squire? :-)
>>>
>>> Why am I losing messages?
>>
>> Have a long talk with your ISP.
>>
>>
> You are not losing messages, Basil. This thread originated on the
> British support list, and has suddenly, in mid-stream, jumped the pond.

Whoops, that was me, sorry.  I think that I started entering a Reply,
saw that it was going to the previous individual rather than the list
(as someone had copied me rather than just sending it to the list) so
I pasted in the ubuntu mailing list address.  Unfortunately I put the
wrong one in.  I have now copied this to both (as presumably some on
the UK list will not have seen the rest) so probably that will upset
even more people.

Sorry again

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network Manager Problem (Xubuntu 10.4)

[Steve Fisher]

Yes sorry still full of cold!  Doctor has signed me off for the week
with bronchitis.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IDE drive mounting ....

[Barry Drake]

On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 17:50 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
> I'd just make sure the drives in the caddy had distinctive labels on
> all their partitions, myself! :¬)

They do have!!  And the problem still occurs.  I'm booting from the SATA
drive partition that appears as /dev/sdb1, and for some weird reason,
automount then tries to mount the partition that is on /dev/sda at '/'
where the boot filesystem (at /dev/sdb1) is already mounted    makes
no sense at all to me, and I know the problem would not be there if I
booted from the IDE drive in the caddy.  Still, Glen's solution works OK
for me.  

The saga began when my wife's computer died and I gave her the one I
mentioned.  I put a caddy in so I could swap between her old IDE drive,
and a storage drive that I could also swap with my computers. Eventually
when I know she no longer needs to access her old drive, I'll swap it
for a SATA caddy  but in the meantime, it's doing what I need it to
to do.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IDE drive mounting ....

[Liam Proven]

On 11 October 2010 14:55, Glen Mehn  wrote:
> On 11/10/10 14:49, Barry Drake wrote:
>> You should be able to have it mount by putting in fstab:
>>> /dev/hdb1    /path/to/mountpoint     defaults    0    0
>> Thanks - that works OK!  I now have /dev/sda1 /media/HD3  ntfs  0 0 in
>> fstab, and it works just fine with any ntfs drive.  I ought to have
>> thought of that instead of using the UUID.  I just wonder why automount
>> tries to mount using /dev/sdb1 when it is there all the time
>> as /dev/sda1?  Windows doesn't make that mistake - if that is what it
>> is.
> Hi Barry,
>
> Glad that helps. I would guess that the Automounter is having trouble
> with 2 drives on one IDE channel.

That shouldn't be the case. I have 2 IDE hard disks on my primary IDE
channel & 2 DVD burners on my secondary, with no issues. Most of my
PCs have had multiple drives - some up to 6 HDs + 3 CDs - and I do not
have any PCs with SATA.

> It should be /dev/hdb1 (the DVD drive
> should be /dev/hda) You should remember, too, that if you have 2 devices
> working simultaneously on one IDE controller will result in
> significantly degraded performance (essentially, the controller can only
> use one device at a time).

Not the case since about 1995 with the appearance of Intel's 82430
"Triton" chipset for the original Pentium. Since that appeared, almost
everything (apart from one or 2 really rubbish SIS chipsets, for
instance) has supported busmastering on IDE, which means overlapped
IO, as I understand it. The 82430HX and 82430VX chipset's PIIX2
controller allowed 2 different IDE devices on a single channel to
operate at different speeds, as well, so one can be (say) PIO4 and one
UDMA2, without conflict.

> The automounter's really more set up for hot-swappable drives. Another
> solution might be to use IDE=>USB cases, but it sounds like you're
> sorted. Glad so.

I'd just make sure the drives in the caddy had distinctive labels on
all their partitions, myself! :¬)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] London release party - Thank you

[Liam Proven]

On 11 October 2010 11:22, Colin Murphy  wrote:
> On Monday 11 October 2010 09:45:57 John Stevenson wrote:
>> Thanks to everyone that came along [...]
>
> ... and thank you for taking the time to organise.

WHS, definitely!

I'm afraid I spent more time with the ZZ9 guys downstairs & didn't get
to met any of the Canonical folk, but it was good to be there & chat.
Thanks, John!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network Manager Problem (Xubuntu 10.4)

[Neil Greenwood]

On 11 October 2010 11:08, Steve Fisher  wrote:
> On 10 October 2010 23:13, Nigel Verity  wrote:
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> I'm running Xubuntu 10.4. A couple of days ago I downloaded a routine
>> update which required a reboot to complete. After that I had no wireless
>> connectivity and no Network Manager applet (nm-applet) icon in the
>> notification area.
>>
>> Following much experimentation I discovered I could get wi-fi and the
>> nm-applet icon as long as I started the process using the command line in a
>> terminal window, and kept that window open. As soon as I closed the window,
>> the wi-fi connection was lost, together with the icon. Fortunately, a cable
>> connection to my router continued to provide internet access, but with no
>> nm-applet icon.
>>
>> Having run out of ideas, I created a new session at the login window.
>> Amazingly everything worked fine as long as I logged in using the new "Test"
>> session. The "Default" session still didn't work and that remains the case
>> now.
>>
>> I now have a "Test" session that needs to be used all the time , and a
>> "Default" session that is broken. Does anybody know how I can delete the
>> current "Default" session and then rename the "Test" session to make that
>> the new default?
>>
>> Although of less importance now, I'd be interested in any ideas as to the
>> fundamental cause of the problem in case it ever happens again.
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>>
>> Nige
>>
>
> Do not use XFCE, but can you launch from alt+f2 run box or "nm-applett &" in
> a terminal, no quotes.  Look for somewhere to add it as a start-up item.

I think Steve is making a confession here (he doesn't use it), rather
than an order! :-)

Also, I think it's called 'nm-applet' with just 1 T.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Hour

[Tony Arnold]

Ashley,

On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 15:03 +0100, Ashley Whetter wrote:
> I've just been into stockport andu there is no wifi! Plus I had a
> quick search for cafes that did and found none! There is good 3G
> though so I may just tether my phone.

OK, let's give it a try and see how we get on. There are a couple of
cafe/bars in Heaton Moor with free WiFi and probably other places away
from the town centre, so we could consider moving to one of those at
some time. Although, they do tend to get crowded at 3pm on a Saturday
afternoon!

(And when O2 decide to release Android 2.2 on my phone in a way that
does not turn it into a brick, I'll be able to enjoy the delights of
tethering!)

> I'll be taking a laptop and may or may not use it. The wiki says you
> should "Wear something with the Ubuntu logo or have a visible Ubuntu
> sticker on your laptop (if you bring
> one)." (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour)

That's not a problem.

> Lastly the cafe is actually called "B&B's" not fresco as Google
> thought.

Ah, is that the one under the covered part of Merseyway in the middle of
the walk way?

See you there.

Regards,
Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Hour

[Ashley Whetter]

I've just been into stockport andu there is no wifi! Plus I had a quick
search for cafes that did and found none! There is good 3G though so I may
just tether my phone.

I'll be taking a laptop and may or may not use it. The wiki says you should
"Wear something with the Ubuntu logo or have a visible Ubuntu sticker on
your laptop (if you bring one)." (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour)

Lastly the cafe is actually called "B&B's" not fresco as Google thought.

Ashley
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Hour

[Ashley Whetter]

I've just been into stockport andu there is no wifi! Plus I had a quick
search for cafes that did and found none! There is good 3G though so I may
just tether my phone.

I'll be taking a laptop and may or may not use it. The wiki says you should
"Wear something with the Ubuntu logo or have a visible Ubuntu sticker on
your laptop (if you bring one)." (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour)

Lastly the cafe is actually called "B&B's" not fresco as Google thought.

Ashley
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IDE drive mounting ....

[Glen Mehn]

On 11/10/10 14:49, Barry Drake wrote:
> You should be able to have it mount by putting in fstab:
>> /dev/hdb1/path/to/mountpoint defaults00
> Thanks - that works OK!  I now have /dev/sda1 /media/HD3  ntfs  0 0 in
> fstab, and it works just fine with any ntfs drive.  I ought to have
> thought of that instead of using the UUID.  I just wonder why automount
> tries to mount using /dev/sdb1 when it is there all the time
> as /dev/sda1?  Windows doesn't make that mistake - if that is what it
> is.
Hi Barry,

Glad that helps. I would guess that the Automounter is having trouble 
with 2 drives on one IDE channel. It should be /dev/hdb1 (the DVD drive 
should be /dev/hda) You should remember, too, that if you have 2 devices 
working simultaneously on one IDE controller will result in 
significantly degraded performance (essentially, the controller can only 
use one device at a time).

The automounter's really more set up for hot-swappable drives. Another 
solution might be to use IDE=>USB cases, but it sounds like you're 
sorted. Glad so.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.10 installation workshop in London

[John Stevenson]

On 11 October 2010 13:45, Alan Lord (News)  wrote:

> On 11/10/10 13:36, John Stevenson wrote:
> >>
> >> I am running a workshop at the University College London on the
> 13th, so it
> >> will be good practice for my own session.
>
> >
> > Hello Paula,
> > I've just about recovered from the Ubuntu release party, so I will see
> > you tomorrow at your event.  I should get there around 12 noon.
>
> Just in case; Tomorrow is the 12th. The date above says the 13th.
>
> Al
>

Hello Alan,
Sorry, this has been a long thread - there are two Ubuntu workshops - one
run by Paula on Tuesday 12th at
FOSSBoxand one run by
myself
on Wednesday 13th at UCL .
We are helping each other out with our respective workshops.  If anyone else
is able to come and get involved that would be great.

Thanks for pointing this out - I realise its misleading as its been a while
since the thread started.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IDE drive mounting ....

[Tyler J. Wagner]

On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 11:27 +0100, Barry Drake wrote:
> Ubuntu 10.10 finds all the drives OK but refuses to mount the IDE hard
> drive saying it already has a drive mounted at the same mount point.

Ubuntu mounts removable drives (really, any not in /etc/fstab)
in /media/LABEL. LABEL is either the filesystem label, the word "disk",
or UUID.

I'm guessing that the problem is that one of your other drives is
mounting on /media/disk and your IDE drive wants the same location.
Ubuntu usually tries to mount on /media/disk-1 in such a case, but I
don't have enough information to be sure.

However, what you might try doing is giving the filesystem on the IDE
drive a new label. How to do it depends on the filesystem. For ext2/3/4
and FAT, the commands are:

sudo tune2fs -L newlabel /dev/sdb1
sudo dosfslabel /dev/sdb1 newlabel

Once it has a different label, it should auto-mount on another
directory.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IDE drive mounting ....

[Glen Mehn]

On 11/10/10 11:56, Barry Drake wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 11:38 +0100, Jacob Mansfield wrote:
>> IDE is not hot-swapable. you need sata
> I don't intend hot-swapping.  I shut down, change the caddy and re-boot.
> It has to be IDE for compatibility with what I have already.
>
>
-- Does Ubuntu see the IDE DVDR properly (/dev/hda?)
-- What happens in Ubuntu when you do sfdisk -s /dev/hdb (or whatever 
the IDE hard drive comes up as)

You should be able to have it mount by putting in fstab:

/dev/hdb1/path/to/mountpoint defaults00

the old school way

Obviously, it needs to be the right /dev path. And this assumes that the 
filesystems are always the same. (you have to replace  with 
ext4/vfat/ntfs/whatever)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.10 installation workshop in London

[Alan Lord (News)]

On 11/10/10 13:36, John Stevenson wrote:
>>
>> I am running a workshop at the University College London on the 13th, so 
>> it
>> will be good practice for my own session.

>
> Hello Paula,
> I've just about recovered from the Ubuntu release party, so I will see
> you tomorrow at your event.  I should get there around 12 noon.

Just in case; Tomorrow is the 12th. The date above says the 13th.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.10 installation workshop in London

[John Stevenson]

On 30 September 2010 12:59, pmgazz  wrote:

>
> On 29/09/10 19:59, John Stevenson wrote:
>
>
> Hello Paula,
> I should be able to come along and help out for the day, I can confirm
> nearer the date.
>
> I am running a workshop at the University College London on the 13th, so it
> will be good practice for my own session.
>
> Are you planning to use Ubuntu 10.04 or Ubuntu 10.10 - either is fine by me,
> just useful to know.
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Hi John - thanks, that's great. Well, normally I use the LTS with VCOs for
> obvious reasons but (a) since Maverick will come out the Sunday before and
> (b) cos Lucid doesn't install the onboard cams I thought we'd put Maverick
> on them.
>
> I'll tell people they can bring their own too, and if they do then they can
> have the LTS. I suspect they won't though, as they have no idea how to
> migrate their data from Win - I might build that into the session or give
> them a handout.
>
> Maybe I can return the favour too :)
>
> Paula
>

Hello Paula,
I've just about recovered from the Ubuntu release party, so I will see you
tomorrow at your event.  I should get there around 12 noon.

See you then.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Hour

[Tony Arnold]

Ashley,

I live in Stockport, so I'll try and come along to this. Do Fresco have
free WiFi? Anything I should bring along?

Regards,
Tony.

> On 09/10/10 13:30, Ashley Whetter wrote: 
> > Hi,
> > Just thought I'd let everyone know that I've started an Ubuntu Hour in
> > Stockport, Cheshire. It will take place every other Saturday starting 23rd
> > October 2010 at 3pm-4pm at Fresco (The cafe in the middle of Merseyway
> > Shopping Centre).
> > 
> > I've put this on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour as well.
> > 
> > Depending on how it goes I may move/start another in the centre of
> > Manchester.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Ashley
> > (Gadget3000)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Hour

[pmgazz]

On 09/10/10 13:30, Ashley Whetter wrote:

Hi,
Just thought I'd let everyone know that I've started an Ubuntu Hour in
Stockport, Cheshire. It will take place every other Saturday starting 23rd
October 2010 at 3pm-4pm at Fresco (The cafe in the middle of Merseyway
Shopping Centre).

I've put this on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour as well.

Depending on how it goes I may move/start another in the centre of
Manchester.

Regards,

Ashley
(Gadget3000)

   

Sounds like a really good idea - hope it takes off :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Jacob Mansfield]

try chromium-browser
Jacob Mansfield
Programmer



On 11 October 2010 11:58, John Matthews  wrote:

> On 11/10/10 11:41, Jacob Mansfield wrote:
> > sudo apt-get purge google-chrome
> > sudo apt-get install google-chrome
> > Jacob Mansfield
> > Programmer
>
> Did the purge, it worked, but cant install, no google chrome to install.
> looked in Synaptic, not there. Where is the official site for google
> chrome for ubuntu?
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Colin Law]

On 11 October 2010 11:58, John Matthews  wrote:
> On 11/10/10 11:41, Jacob Mansfield wrote:
>> sudo apt-get purge google-chrome
>> sudo apt-get install google-chrome
>> Jacob Mansfield
>> Programmer
>
> Did the purge, it worked, but cant install, no google chrome to install.
> looked in Synaptic, not there. Where is the official site for google
> chrome for ubuntu?

http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

On 11/10/10 11:41, Jacob Mansfield wrote:
> sudo apt-get purge google-chrome
> sudo apt-get install google-chrome
> Jacob Mansfield
> Programmer

Did the purge, it worked, but cant install, no google chrome to install. 
looked in Synaptic, not there. Where is the official site for google 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IDE drive mounting ....

[Barry Drake]

On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 11:38 +0100, Jacob Mansfield wrote:
> IDE is not hot-swapable. you need sata

I don't intend hot-swapping.  I shut down, change the caddy and re-boot.
It has to be IDE for compatibility with what I have already.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Jacob Mansfield]

sudo apt-get purge google-chrome
sudo apt-get install google-chrome
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On 11 October 2010 11:31, John Matthews  wrote:

> On 11/10/10 11:17, Colin Law wrote:
> > Google for   google chrome profile   yields many hits, alternatively
> > you could uninstall and purge google-chrome and re-install it.  That
> > should clear the settings (in ~/.config/google-chrome I think).
> >
> > Colin
>
>
> I did google above, and it was mainly about windows, couldnt see much to
> do with Ubuntu. How would I purge using the terminal? I dont mind
> loosing the data, not much apart from my bookmarks on it.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Colin Law]

On 11 October 2010 11:31, John Matthews  wrote:
> On 11/10/10 11:17, Colin Law wrote:
>> Google for   google chrome profile   yields many hits, alternatively
>> you could uninstall and purge google-chrome and re-install it.  That
>> should clear the settings (in ~/.config/google-chrome I think).
>>
>> Colin
>
>
> I did google above, and it was mainly about windows, couldnt see much to
> do with Ubuntu. How would I purge using the terminal? I dont mind
> loosing the data, not much apart from my bookmarks on it.

I would expect it to be same as on windows except the config is in
~/.config/google-chrome

To purge it
sudo apt-get purge google-chrome
but check man apt-get before doing anything like this just in case you
are being given duff info.

Google would have given you this information much quicker than asking here.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IDE drive mounting ....

[Jacob Mansfield]

IDE is not hot-swapable. you need sata
Jacob Mansfield
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On 11 October 2010 11:27, Barry Drake  wrote:

> Here's an interesting one for you.  I have a PC with a motherboard that
> has 6xSATA ports and one IDE port.  I've put two SATA drives in plus an
> IDE DVD-R drive and an IDE drive caddy (as slave and master) so I can
> swap storage drives between three desktop pcs.
>
> One of the SATA drives is Windows 2000.  When I boot this, it finds and
> mounts all drives with no problem.
>
> Ubuntu 10.10 finds all the drives OK but refuses to mount the IDE hard
> drive saying it already has a drive mounted at the same mount point.
> The only way I can mount the IDE drive is to put a line in /etc/fstab
> that tells it to mount UUID=[UUID of the drive I'm going to use].  This
> allows it to work just fine, but is a bit of a pain, as I have to
> edit /etc/fstab before I re-boot with a different drive.  If it finds
> the wrong drive, ubuntu hangs during the boot when it tries to mount the
> drive that has gone!
>
> Currently I have all the drives I want to swap (four in number)
> in /etc/fstab so I comment out the ones that aren't there.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Regards,Barry Drake.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] SD card - lock out sectors .....

[Alan Pope]

On 11 October 2010 11:35, Barry Drake  wrote:
> This is not a specifically Ubuntu query.  Sorry if you feel it's off
> topic.  I bought a 32 GB SD card via e-bay (from China).  The price was
> too good to be true, and only the first 2 GB works.  Pay-Pal came up
> trumps, and I received a full refund, but I still have the faulty card.
> Anyone know of a way of locking out faulty sectors so I can use more
> than the first 2 GB?
>

It is a 2GB card, not a 32GB card. As such there are no more sectors
to unlock. I'd bin it.

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[ubuntu-uk] SD card - lock out sectors .....

[Barry Drake]

This is not a specifically Ubuntu query.  Sorry if you feel it's off
topic.  I bought a 32 GB SD card via e-bay (from China).  The price was
too good to be true, and only the first 2 GB works.  Pay-Pal came up
trumps, and I received a full refund, but I still have the faulty card.
Anyone know of a way of locking out faulty sectors so I can use more
than the first 2 GB?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

On 11/10/10 11:17, Colin Law wrote:
> Google for   google chrome profile   yields many hits, alternatively
> you could uninstall and purge google-chrome and re-install it.  That
> should clear the settings (in ~/.config/google-chrome I think).
>
> Colin


I did google above, and it was mainly about windows, couldnt see much to 
do with Ubuntu. How would I purge using the terminal? I dont mind 
loosing the data, not much apart from my bookmarks on it.

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[ubuntu-uk] IDE drive mounting ....

[Barry Drake]

Here's an interesting one for you.  I have a PC with a motherboard that
has 6xSATA ports and one IDE port.  I've put two SATA drives in plus an
IDE DVD-R drive and an IDE drive caddy (as slave and master) so I can
swap storage drives between three desktop pcs.

One of the SATA drives is Windows 2000.  When I boot this, it finds and
mounts all drives with no problem.

Ubuntu 10.10 finds all the drives OK but refuses to mount the IDE hard
drive saying it already has a drive mounted at the same mount point.
The only way I can mount the IDE drive is to put a line in /etc/fstab
that tells it to mount UUID=[UUID of the drive I'm going to use].  This
allows it to work just fine, but is a bit of a pain, as I have to
edit /etc/fstab before I re-boot with a different drive.  If it finds
the wrong drive, ubuntu hangs during the boot when it tries to mount the
drive that has gone!

Currently I have all the drives I want to swap (four in number)
in /etc/fstab so I comment out the ones that aren't there.

Any thoughts?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] London release party - Thank you

[Colin Murphy]

On Monday 11 October 2010 09:45:57 John Stevenson wrote:
> Thanks to everyone that came along [...]

... and thank you for taking the time to organise.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Colin Law]

On 11 October 2010 10:56, John Matthews  wrote:
> Problem is now, how do I set up a new profile in Chrome. I am now
> getting a message when I start this version saying
>
> 'Your profile cannot be used because it is from a newer version of
> Google Chrome. Some features may be unavailable. Please specify a
> different profile directory or use a newer version of Chrome.

Google for   google chrome profile   yields many hits, alternatively
you could uninstall and purge google-chrome and re-install it.  That
should clear the settings (in ~/.config/google-chrome I think).

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network Manager Problem (Xubuntu 10.4)

[Steve Fisher]

On 10 October 2010 23:13, Nigel Verity  wrote:

>  Hi Guys
>
> I'm running Xubuntu 10.4. A couple of days ago I downloaded a routine
> update which required a reboot to complete. After that I had no wireless
> connectivity and no Network Manager applet (nm-applet) icon in the
> notification area.
>
> Following much experimentation I discovered I could get wi-fi and the
> nm-applet icon as long as I started the process using the command line in a
> terminal window, and kept that window open. As soon as I closed the window,
> the wi-fi connection was lost, together with the icon. Fortunately, a cable
> connection to my router continued to provide internet access, but with no
> nm-applet icon.
>
> Having run out of ideas, I created a new session at the login window.
> Amazingly everything worked fine as long as I logged in using the new "Test"
> session. The "Default" session still didn't work and that remains the case
> now.
>
> I now have a "Test" session that needs to be used all the time , and a
> "Default" session that is broken. Does anybody know how I can delete the
> current "Default" session and then rename the "Test" session to make that
> the new default?
>
> Although of less importance now, I'd be interested in any ideas as to the
> fundamental cause of the problem in case it ever happens again.
>
> Thanks and regards
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

Problem is now, how do I set up a new profile in Chrome. I am now 
getting a message when I start this version saying

'Your profile cannot be used because it is from a newer version of 
Google Chrome. Some features may be unavailable. Please specify a 
different profile directory or use a newer version of Chrome.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

On 11/10/10 10:27, Colin Law wrote:
> I still don't know which version of google-chrome you are using.
>
> Colin

Working, it was the Chrome version, had the unstable version installed. 
Sorry I didnt notice your post about the version I was using. As soon as 
you mentioned version, and when I saw it, I uninstalled it, and then 
installed the Stable version 6.0.472.63 and the page renders.

Sorry about the confusion.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Colin Law]

On 11 October 2010 10:24, John Matthews  wrote:
> On 11/10/10 09:45, Sean Miller wrote:
>> Unsupported proprietary plug-ins, perhaps?
>>
>> Sean
>
>
> Spoke too soon, the page disappeared, but took longer to go than with
> the plug-ins. :( So its not the plug-ins.

I still don't know which version of google-chrome you are using.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

Is there a way using the terminal or an error report in Ubuntu, that 
might show why it wont stay in view?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

On 11/10/10 09:45, Sean Miller wrote:
> Unsupported proprietary plug-ins, perhaps?
>
> Sean


Spoke too soon, the page disappeared, but took longer to go than with 
the plug-ins. :( So its not the plug-ins.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

On 11/10/10 09:40, Roy Jamison wrote:
> Actually if p...@home staff are anything to go by, I wouldn't exactly
> expect their website to be any good.
> Think..."mass breeding at the sibling level" with the rabbits and other
> animals they sell. Most of them die within 2 years because of health
> problems like cancer, deformations, etc.
>
> Source: College teacher (part of syllabus)
>

As I said, I dont buy small animals from them, just cages and 
accessories. So I dont know.

I never buy live animals from shops anyway, I always go to breeders I 
know. Or I rescue, I have both at the moment.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

On 11/10/10 09:45, Sean Miller wrote:
> Unsupported proprietary plug-ins, perhaps?
>
> Sean

Your right, I just disabled all my plugins for Google Chrome, and the 
page renders. So I will now go through and check which one it was. First 
time I have known that to happen with Chrome. That is interesting to know.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

On 11/10/10 09:28, Sean Miller wrote:
> If the petsathome site is completely awful HTML then that's rather a
> sad reflection on their brand... who is to know whether the pet food
> is edible, the fish being sold healthy or the staff knowledgable if
> they can't be bothered to spend at least a few minutes on their
> website to ensure it renders in all browsers?
>
> Think I'll stick with Pampurred Pets... they don't really have a
> website to speak of, but at least it renders;-)
>

I use the site for products I know, and its cheaper than a lot of 
places. I dont buy live animals from them, just things like cages and 
accessories. I'm not sure why I should be explaining myself here or 
making excuses, but there you are.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Sean Miller]

On 11 October 2010 09:42, John Matthews  wrote:
> If that is the cawse, why is it some people can view it in the same
> versions of Ubuntu and the FF and Chrome, and I cant as is being pointed
> out here.

Unsupported proprietary plug-ins, perhaps?

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[ubuntu-uk] London release party - Thank you

[John Stevenson]

Hello all,
Thanks to everyone that came along to the London Ubuntu release party
yesterday, despite a problem getting into the venue due to a broken lock, it
was a great event and a good turn out with over 35 people upstairs and about
the same again for the 42day party goers downstairs.  It was a full house,
so may need to find a bigger venue next time!!

Special thanks to the Matt Zimmerman  and the
rest of the release team for doing a great job with the release and still
having the energy to come along to the release party, it was great to meet
and talk to you all and I had some very interesting talks with members of
the design team.

Once I get my energy back from all the talks and conferences I've been to in
the last two weeks I'll do a write up of the event and update the report
page.  I have some (hopefully okay) pictures taken on my phone which I'll
upload to flickr this week too.

Looking forward to the next release party.

Thank you.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

On 11/10/10 07:58, Colin Law wrote:
> It is not his own site, his initial question was worded slightly
> ambiguously. He said that he 'had a page' that failed, but did not
> mean that it was his own site.
>
> But you are right that the fundamental problem may be the invalid
> html.  The new version of the renderer may be interpreting the html
> differently.  The OP should contact the site admin and point out the
> errors on the site.
>
> Colin


If that is the cawse, why is it some people can view it in the same 
versions of Ubuntu and the FF and Chrome, and I cant as is being pointed 
out here.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Roy Jamison]

Actually if p...@home staff are anything to go by, I wouldn't exactly
expect their website to be any good.
Think..."mass breeding at the sibling level" with the rabbits and other
animals they sell. Most of them die within 2 years because of health
problems like cancer, deformations, etc.

Source: College teacher (part of syllabus)


On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 09:28 +0100, Sean Miller wrote:
> On 11 October 2010 07:58, Colin Law  wrote:
> > It is not his own site, his initial question was worded slightly
> > ambiguously. He said that he 'had a page' that failed, but did not
> > mean that it was his own site.
> 
> Ah, apologies... mis-read.
> 
> > But you are right that the fundamental problem may be the invalid
> > html.  The new version of the renderer may be interpreting the html
> > differently.  The OP should contact the site admin and point out the
> > errors on the site.
> 
> If the petsathome site is completely awful HTML then that's rather a
> sad reflection on their brand... who is to know whether the pet food
> is edible, the fish being sold healthy or the staff knowledgable if
> they can't be bothered to spend at least a few minutes on their
> website to ensure it renders in all browsers?
> 
> Think I'll stick with Pampurred Pets... they don't really have a
> website to speak of, but at least it renders ;-)
> 
> Sean
> 



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[John Matthews]

On 11/10/10 07:32, Sean Miller wrote:
> Surely this is all "back to front"?
>
> If the HTML is rubbish, and newer versions of the rendering engines
> are throwing it out, perhaps the key would be to work out WHY they are
> creating blank sites and fix your own site?
>
> Then you end up with a bonus - you have a site that OTHERS with newer
> browsers can also view.  For an e-commerce website, I'd think that was
> quite important.
>
> Rather than trying to apply patches to revert your system to the state
> it was in when it used to render the (incorrectly coded) site
> properly?
>
> Or maybe I'm missing something here... been designing websites (that
> DO render) for too long, maybe;-)
>
> Sean
>

This isnt my site, its a site I visit. I used to be able to view it no 
problems before the upgrade now I cant. It shows for a couple of seconds 
then the page goes blank.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pages not loading in Ubuntu 10.10

[Sean Miller]

On 11 October 2010 07:58, Colin Law  wrote:
> It is not his own site, his initial question was worded slightly
> ambiguously. He said that he 'had a page' that failed, but did not
> mean that it was his own site.

Ah, apologies... mis-read.

> But you are right that the fundamental problem may be the invalid
> html.  The new version of the renderer may be interpreting the html
> differently.  The OP should contact the site admin and point out the
> errors on the site.

If the petsathome site is completely awful HTML then that's rather a
sad reflection on their brand... who is to know whether the pet food
is edible, the fish being sold healthy or the staff knowledgable if
they can't be bothered to spend at least a few minutes on their
website to ensure it renders in all browsers?

Think I'll stick with Pampurred Pets... they don't really have a
website to speak of, but at least it renders ;-)

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