Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Providers

[Jacob Mansfield]

the oniric install is just for their VPS. and ITVET is the company that now
owns red torch.
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On 26 July 2011 21:25, J Fernyhough  wrote:

> On 26 July 2011 21:10, Jacob Mansfield  wrote:
> > I, and quite a few clients of mine, have red torch internet. there site
> is
> > currently down for core-updates (they-re going to oniric) but if you give
> > them a call on 0845 519 1001 (press sales) and ask them about it, they
> > usually have some great deals/offers
>
> I wasn't sure whether to comment on this, but hey. Google can't find
> Red Torch Internet at all, and that phone number is the same as for
> ITVET who have a website that has as little information as possible on
> it. The fact that they are moving to Oneiric (I presume?) while it is
> still in Alpha 2 seems an exceptionally odd thing to do, and the fact
> that an ISP allows its website to go down at all means they're not
> likely a company I would trust with my internet access.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Providers

[J Fernyhough]

On 26 July 2011 21:10, Jacob Mansfield  wrote:
> I, and quite a few clients of mine, have red torch internet. there site is
> currently down for core-updates (they-re going to oniric) but if you give
> them a call on 0845 519 1001 (press sales) and ask them about it, they
> usually have some great deals/offers

I wasn't sure whether to comment on this, but hey. Google can't find
Red Torch Internet at all, and that phone number is the same as for
ITVET who have a website that has as little information as possible on
it. The fact that they are moving to Oneiric (I presume?) while it is
still in Alpha 2 seems an exceptionally odd thing to do, and the fact
that an ISP allows its website to go down at all means they're not
likely a company I would trust with my internet access.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Providers

[Jacob Mansfield]

I, and quite a few clients of mine, have red torch internet. there site is
currently down for core-updates (they-re going to oniric) but if you give
them a call on 0845 519 1001 (press sales) and ask them about it, they
usually have some great deals/offers
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On 26 July 2011 20:42, Rob Beard  wrote:

> On 26/07/11 20:07, Ted Wager wrote:
>
>> Anyone tell me if it is possible for an isp  to cut down
>> the download rate for one of it's clients ?
>>
>
> Yes, with traffic management, traffic shaping, or just generally limiting
> the speed.
>
> When I was with Eclipse a few years ago they did just that, I had a line
> that synced at 2Mbit/sec but paid for a 1Mbit service, so the speed ran at
> just over 1Mbit generally, although I had the option to pay to boost the
> speed to the full 2Mbit when I wished for a small fee (something like 5p an
> hour or something), in the end I just opted to upgrade to the 2Mbit.
>
> So yeah it is possible.
>
> Rob
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing libraries

[mart...@vandestreek.net]

On 26 July 2011 20:12, Simon Redmond  wrote:
>
> I might be wrong, but this sounds like it could be solved by a symbolic
> link???
>

The package should have created that link if it was appropriate (you can't
just symlink libraries with different versions/ABIs, things _will_ break).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Providers

[Rob Beard]

On 26/07/11 20:07, Ted Wager wrote:

Anyone tell me if it is possible for an isp  to cut down
the download rate for one of it's clients ?


Yes, with traffic management, traffic shaping, or just generally 
limiting the speed.


When I was with Eclipse a few years ago they did just that, I had a line 
that synced at 2Mbit/sec but paid for a 1Mbit service, so the speed ran 
at just over 1Mbit generally, although I had the option to pay to boost 
the speed to the full 2Mbit when I wished for a small fee (something 
like 5p an hour or something), in the end I just opted to upgrade to the 
2Mbit.


So yeah it is possible.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing libraries

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> I think you may be able to fix this by creating a symbolic link to where
> the program is expecting to find the library. As for where it would be
> looking, I have no idea... One would assume one of the developers could
> shed some light, or perhaps an installation guide or readme file.
> On Jul 26, 2011 7:13 PM, "Simon Redmond"  wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 19:30 +0200, mart...@vandestreek.net wrote:
> > > On 26 July 2011 14:32, Andrés Muñiz Piniella 
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > We are trying to install a software (coventorware) that
> > > normally is supported if installed in redhat 4 but "should
> > > work" on other linux distros like ubuntu.
> > > 
> > > We managed to install everthing but there is one library that
> > > is missing: libgomp.so.1.   And we think it's called
> > > libgomp(something) in ubuntu (already installed).   it seems
> > > they are spelt slightly differently. How would I get the
> > > coventorware installer to find libgomp?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This could be two different problems:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 1. You're really missing the library. Try installing "apt-file", then
> > > do "apt-file update" and "apt-file search libgomp123.so" (replace
> > > with the file name you need) to see which package it's in
> > > 
> > > 
> > > or
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 2. The software you're trying to run is compiled for 32-bit Linux,
> > > and you're running 64-bit LInux. If you install libraries using
> > > "apt-get install" you get the 64-bit versions, which can't be used
> > > by 32-bit compiled programs. You either need to get a version of
> > > your software that's compiled for 64-bit Linux, get the 32-bit
> > > libraries on your system somehow, or install 32-bit Ubuntu and try
> > > with that.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Martijn
> > > 
> > 
> > I might be wrong, but this sounds like it could be solved by a symbolic
> > link???
> > 
> > Simon
> > 
> > 
> 
> I think you may be able to fix this by creating a symbolic link to where
> the program is expecting to find the library. As for where it would be
> looking, I have no idea... One would assume one of the developers could
> shed some light, or perhaps an installation guide or readme file.


So, this symbolic link would it be this?
http://www.techiecorner.com/105/how-to-create-symbolic-link-in-unix/

readme  says that they only support redhat of the linux distros. Instalation 
guide is a simple block diagram. Says something in the lines choos folder. Type 
this and that, should be installed. Create desktop shortcut... I guess i could 
just install redhat... But the last time i used redhat it looked so dated 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Providers

[Mark]

On 26 July 2011 20:07, Ted Wager  wrote:

> Anyone tell me if it is possible for an isp  to cut down
> the download rate for one of it's clients ?
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Hi,

Afraid so, usually if you go outside of the fair usage policy they can
throttle your bandwidth effectively putting you in the 'naughty corner' for
about a week.

This seems standard practice with ISP with a fair usage policy but most
a fairly reasonable with the limit unless you're a heavy heavy user.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Providers

[J Fernyhough]

On 26 July 2011 20:07, Ted Wager  wrote:
> Anyone tell me if it is possible for an isp  to cut down
> the download rate for one of it's clients ?
> --
> Regards
>  Ted Wager

Perfectly possible. Indeed, a number of the main consumer providers
(TalkTalk, Plusnet etc.) have fairly aggressive throttling and traffic
shaping policies.

There are a number of ISPs who are, on the other hand, perfectly
transparent; I have particular love for AAISP.

Jonathon

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[ubuntu-uk] UK Providers

[Ted Wager]

Anyone tell me if it is possible for an isp  to cut down
the download rate for one of it's clients ?
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  Ted Wager
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing libraries

[Kris Douglas]

I think you may be able to fix this by creating a symbolic link to where the
program is expecting to find the library. As for where it would be looking,
I have no idea... One would assume one of the developers could shed some
light, or perhaps an installation guide or readme file.
On Jul 26, 2011 7:13 PM, "Simon Redmond"  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 19:30 +0200, mart...@vandestreek.net wrote:
> > On 26 July 2011 14:32, Andrés Muñiz Piniella 
> > wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are trying to install a software (coventorware) that
> > normally is supported if installed in redhat 4 but "should
> > work" on other linux distros like ubuntu.
> >
> > We managed to install everthing but there is one library that
> > is missing: libgomp.so.1.  And we think it's called
> > libgomp(something) in ubuntu (already installed).  it seems
> > they are spelt slightly differently. How would I get the
> > coventorware installer to find libgomp?
> >
> >
> > This could be two different problems:
> >
> >
> > 1. You're really missing the library. Try installing "apt-file", then
> > do "apt-file update" and "apt-file search libgomp123.so" (replace with
> > the file name you need) to see which package it's in
> >
> >
> > or
> >
> >
> > 2. The software you're trying to run is compiled for 32-bit Linux, and
> > you're running 64-bit LInux. If you install libraries using "apt-get
> > install" you get the 64-bit versions, which can't be used by 32-bit
> > compiled programs. You either need to get a version of your software
> > that's compiled for 64-bit Linux, get the 32-bit libraries on your
> > system somehow, or install 32-bit Ubuntu and try with that.
> >
> >
> > Martijn
> >
>
> I might be wrong, but this sounds like it could be solved by a symbolic
> link???
>
> Simon
>
>

I think you may be able to fix this by creating a symbolic link to where the
program is expecting to find the library. As for where it would be looking,
I have no idea... One would assume one of the developers could shed some
light, or perhaps an installation guide or readme file.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing libraries

[Simon Redmond]

On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 19:30 +0200, mart...@vandestreek.net wrote:
> On 26 July 2011 14:32, Andrés Muñiz Piniella 
> wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> We are trying to install a software (coventorware) that
> normally is supported if installed in redhat 4 but "should
> work" on other linux distros like ubuntu.
>  
> We managed to install everthing but there is one library that
> is missing: libgomp.so.1.  And we think it's called
> libgomp(something) in ubuntu (already installed).  it seems
> they are spelt slightly differently. How would I get the
> coventorware installer to find libgomp?
> 
> 
> This could be two different problems:
> 
> 
> 1. You're really missing the library. Try installing "apt-file", then
> do "apt-file update" and "apt-file search libgomp123.so" (replace with
> the file name you need) to see which package it's in
> 
> 
> or
> 
> 
> 2. The software you're trying to run is compiled for 32-bit Linux, and
> you're running 64-bit LInux. If you install libraries using "apt-get
> install" you get the 64-bit versions, which can't be used by 32-bit
> compiled programs. You either need to get a version of your software
> that's compiled for 64-bit Linux, get the 32-bit libraries on your
> system somehow, or install 32-bit Ubuntu and try with that.
> 
> 
> Martijn
>  

I might be wrong, but this sounds like it could be solved by a symbolic
link???

Simon


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing libraries

[mart...@vandestreek.net]

On 26 July 2011 14:32, Andrés Muñiz Piniella  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We are trying to install a software (coventorware) that  normally is
> supported if installed in redhat 4 but "should work" on other linux distros
> like ubuntu.
>
> We managed to install everthing but there is one library that is missing: 
> libgomp.so.1.  And
> we think it's called libgomp(something) in ubuntu (already installed).  it
> seems they are spelt slightly differently. How would I get the coventorware
> installer to find libgomp?
>

This could be two different problems:

1. You're really missing the library. Try installing "apt-file", then do
"apt-file update" and "apt-file search libgomp123.so" (replace with the file
name you need) to see which package it's in

or

2. The software you're trying to run is compiled for 32-bit Linux, and
you're running 64-bit LInux. If you install libraries using "apt-get
install" you get the 64-bit versions, which can't be used by 32-bit compiled
programs. You either need to get a version of your software that's compiled
for 64-bit Linux, get the 32-bit libraries on your system somehow, or
install 32-bit Ubuntu and try with that.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] smbfs error handling

[Chris Rowson]

> On 26/07/11 14:58, Chris Rowson wrote:
>>
>> I thought I'd just put this out there because I can't seem to find any
>> information... Hopefully one of you good people will know :-)
>>
>> Does smbfs run any kind of error checking/correction on during
>> transfer of data to SMB shares on Windows machines? I'm backing some
>> stuff up to a Window machine and wondered if I need to run md5sum on
>> the files to check for corruption during transfer, or whether SMB/CIFS
>> deals with that automatically?
>
> Hi, Chris.
>
> Well, TCP/IP does check packet integrity and SMB runs on top of it.
>
> However, why not use rsync with checksums enabled for your xfers?
>
> Bye,
>
>  Tony.

Thanks Tony,

I guess I should have said smbclient rather than smbfs but you got the
gist of what I meant :-)

You're right of course; I did consider setting up rsync for backup
transfers but it got sent to the back of the queue workwise. I might
take a look at it for the extra piece of mind.

Ta!

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] smbfs error handling

[Tony Travis]

On 26/07/11 14:58, Chris Rowson wrote:

I thought I'd just put this out there because I can't seem to find any
information... Hopefully one of you good people will know :-)

Does smbfs run any kind of error checking/correction on during
transfer of data to SMB shares on Windows machines? I'm backing some
stuff up to a Window machine and wondered if I need to run md5sum on
the files to check for corruption during transfer, or whether SMB/CIFS
deals with that automatically?


Hi, Chris.

Well, TCP/IP does check packet integrity and SMB runs on top of it.

However, why not use rsync with checksums enabled for your xfers?

Bye,

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[ubuntu-uk] smbfs error handling

[Chris Rowson]

I thought I'd just put this out there because I can't seem to find any
information... Hopefully one of you good people will know :-)

Does smbfs run any kind of error checking/correction on during
transfer of data to SMB shares on Windows machines? I'm backing some
stuff up to a Window machine and wondered if I need to run md5sum on
the files to check for corruption during transfer, or whether SMB/CIFS
deals with that automatically?

Cheers,

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[ubuntu-uk] Missing libraries

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

Hi,

We are trying to install a software (coventorware) that  normally is
supported if installed in redhat 4 but "should work" on other linux distros
like ubuntu.

We managed to install everthing but there is one library that is
missing: libgomp.so.1.  And
we think it's called libgomp(something) in ubuntu (already installed).  it
seems they are spelt slightly differently. How would I get the coventorware
installer to find libgomp?


Thanks for any help!


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