Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread kpb
Hello All

I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can fit 
on the poster!)

Below is a link to the PDF file - this is the one to send to end users and 
anyone who might want to print the poster

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.pdf

The link below is to the ODP file. Fork this as you wish. If you come up with 
anything good, pop it on Ubuntu One or Dropbox and post a link back here.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.odp

I will try to get through the spreadbuntu deflection shields later on today. It 
seems quite hard to get stuff through their spam checkers.

Cheers

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From: kpb k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

On 21/04/12 11:49, Alan Pope wrote:
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 On 21/04/12 11:16, kpb wrote:
 Hello All

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8403291/1204-poster-4.pdf

 Nice work. Where do I file bugs? :)
Here

 Minor niggle, the diagram in the top left implies that the button in
 the top left of the screen with the Ubuntu logo on _is_ the dash. It's
 actually referred to as the BFB (Big Freaking Button) or Ubuntu
 Button which launches the dash.

Well, that is the first I've heard of that and I've been a happy Unity 
user for the last couple of releases.  When I hold my mouse over the 
BFB, it says Dash Home, so I assumed that was the name of the button as 
well as an indication of what it leads to.

I'll look at changing the name of the button to Ubuntu Button (can't you 
guys think of a shorter name?)


 Be good to upload it to spreadubuntu so others can get it.

OK, its not really marketing though.


 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread Barry Drake

On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote:

I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can fit 
on the poster!)


Splendid work!  Thanks.  I really think this is too useful to be 
ignored.  I hope somebody with write access will link it into the Ubuntu 
web site.


Kind regards,Barry.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread alan c
I tried to reply to this post from
k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk
but I keep getting asked for an encryption key before sending

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread mac

On 25/04/2012 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote:

I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can fit 
on the poster!)


This is really good.  Very well done!

mac



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread Alan Pope
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Hi again Keith,

On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote:
 I will try to get through the spreadbuntu deflection shields later
 on today. It seems quite hard to get stuff through their spam
 checkers.
 

I uploaded it for you.

http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/brochure/1204-poster

Hope that's okay.

Cheers,
Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread alan c
On 25/04/12 12:26, Barry Drake wrote:
 On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote:
 I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can 
 fit on the poster!)
 
 Splendid work!  Thanks.  I really think this is too useful to be 
 ignored.  I hope somebody with write access will link it into the Ubuntu 
 web site.

A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my
novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think
would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What
about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread Keith Burnett
Hello Alan and all

The target audience I had in mind was those in organisations where computers 
are moving from 10.04 to 12.04, an LTS to LTS upgrade.

Hence not 'novices' either in Linux or in the use of computers.

Most Colleges, libraries, adult education centres in the UK base their IT 
instruction around Windows, so I guess Microsoft can look after itself.

Cheers
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On 25/04/12 12:26, Barry Drake wrote:
 On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote:
 I have made the modifications suggested here (at least to the extent I can 
 fit on the poster!)
 
 Splendid work!  Thanks.  I really think this is too useful to be 
 ignored.  I hope somebody with write access will link it into the Ubuntu 
 web site.

A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my
novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think
would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What
about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread kpb

On 25/04/12 13:29, Alan Pope wrote:

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Hi again Keith,

On 25/04/12 12:02, k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote:

I will try to get through the spreadbuntu deflection shields later
on today. It seems quite hard to get stuff through their spam
checkers.


I uploaded it for you.

http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/brochure/1204-poster

Hope that's okay.

Cheers,
Al.

Al

Thanks very much for doing that

The spreadubuntu link is on the ubuntuforum thread for the poster now.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread Barry Drake

On 25/04/12 17:08, alan c wrote:
A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my 
novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think 
would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What 
about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison? 


Alan - I'm not entirely sure I agree.  The language and examples are 
very simply put.  I'm expecting to upgrade my sister from 10.04 to 12.04 
fairly soon.  I'll ask her to look at it.  I'll also ask her 
stepdaughter to take a look.  She is almost entirely Windows (although 
she has recently started work at SpecSavers).


Regards,Barry.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread alan c
On 25/04/12 20:54, Barry Drake wrote:
 On 25/04/12 17:08, alan c wrote:
 A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my 
 novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think 
 would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What 
 about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison? 
 
 Alan - I'm not entirely sure I agree.  The language and examples are 
 very simply put.  I'm expecting to upgrade my sister from 10.04 to 12.04 
 fairly soon.  I'll ask her to look at it.  I'll also ask her 
 stepdaughter to take a look.  She is almost entirely Windows (although 
 she has recently started work at SpecSavers).

Hi Barry. I am dealing with 60 plus ages and they are all technophobes
using Ubuntu without reading any instructions at all. Some are adults
with learning difficulty. The thought of even -me- needing to look at
such an information diagram is an unpleasant thought for me. It is
ironic indeed that Ubuntu gets to rival a Mac in GUI simplicity, and
straight away it is advocated that a technical diagram is needed to
explain it!  It reminds me (with grim humour) of the 'I'm sorry I
haven't a clue' item of 'one song to the tune of another', where the
chair deliberately obfuscates the rules.  When unity was user tested
formally, what written instructions were provided? I bet, none. By
making such diagrams  very public it is signalling I think quite
wrongly that the GUI is difficult. I think that is a bad message for
public broadcast. Thinking advertising here. Anyway, there will be a
best target audience, but I am sure it will not anyone I help.
Good luck though. (Watch their eyes)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

2012-04-25 Thread Keith Burnett
Hello all and Alan 

I am not actually advocating the use of the poster. The choice of resources in 
any situation must be made by each facilitator bearing in mind the needs of the 
group that they are working with.

The idea for the poster came from responses to questions from people on the 
Ubuntuforums Ubuntu + 1 subforum. I simply thought that an introduction to 
Unity for those who have not made the journey through 11.04 and 11.10 might be 
useful for some people.

Best of luck with your work.

I would be interested in the outcome of the 'user trial' that has been 
mentioned as well.

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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 Unity intro poster

On 25/04/12 20:54, Barry Drake wrote:
 On 25/04/12 17:08, alan c wrote:
 A lot of careful work, certainly. But I would not want to point my 
 novices to it, for them it is a page of detail stuff which I think 
 would frighten them. And why does linux need a instructions? What 
 about a similar page for Windows 7, for comparison? 
 
 Alan - I'm not entirely sure I agree.  The language and examples are 
 very simply put.  I'm expecting to upgrade my sister from 10.04 to 12.04 
 fairly soon.  I'll ask her to look at it.  I'll also ask her 
 stepdaughter to take a look.  She is almost entirely Windows (although 
 she has recently started work at SpecSavers).

Hi Barry. I am dealing with 60 plus ages and they are all technophobes
using Ubuntu without reading any instructions at all. Some are adults
with learning difficulty. The thought of even -me- needing to look at
such an information diagram is an unpleasant thought for me. It is
ironic indeed that Ubuntu gets to rival a Mac in GUI simplicity, and
straight away it is advocated that a technical diagram is needed to
explain it!  It reminds me (with grim humour) of the 'I'm sorry I
haven't a clue' item of 'one song to the tune of another', where the
chair deliberately obfuscates the rules.  When unity was user tested
formally, what written instructions were provided? I bet, none. By
making such diagrams  very public it is signalling I think quite
wrongly that the GUI is difficult. I think that is a bad message for
public broadcast. Thinking advertising here. Anyway, there will be a
best target audience, but I am sure it will not anyone I help.
Good luck though. (Watch their eyes)
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