Re: [ubuntu-uk] Helping dual boot/wubi
- Original message - > On 25 September 2012 21:32, Andres wrote: > > > Sorry long email but I do not know how to separate it in chunks. > > > > > > " > > Not all updates can be installed > > run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. > > This could be cause by: > > *a previous upgrade that could not complete > > *problems with some of the installed software > > * unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu > > *normal changes of a pre-realease of ubuntu. > > > > > I recently had the same error messages, and the problem was, very simply > - a full hard disk. > > As you are using Wubi, I feel it is likely that you may be experiencing > the same problem. > > -- > Regards, > Andy thanks Andy!-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 12.10: advertising lenses
Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > I'm surprised people even use the Dash/Lens thing. > > I find it rather pointless and slow and almost never have a need to > use it(them) at all. I've found it reasonably good for finding things on Amazon these past couple of days. Not really found a use for it previously... -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ayatana / Lens searches for tokens only
On 25/09/12 16:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: Related to that, the Lens searches seem to be based on tokens of entire words, not substrings. They are delimited by whitespace or changes in capitalisation. Is there a bug filed about these issues you outlined? If not, could you please file one/some so we can track these issues? Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 12.10: advertising lenses
On 25/09/12 09:33, Juergen Schinker wrote: Kickstarter, Indiegogo, They work well for one off projects up to (and sometimes over) a specific target, but not for the ongoing costs associated with running a company. Flattr, Donations wia Bitcoin etc Flattr is good for articles, podcasts, stories, not so good, again, for running an entire company of 500+ employees. Bitcoin is a non-starter for a "real company" right now IMO. Good but not good enough - the default must be uninstalled It may as well not exist if it's not installed. Why is there no full Transparancy about this -the more i dig the more comes out... It's not out yet. The developers have been focussing on coding rapidly to get it in before the beta 2 freeze. If you follow planet ubuntu you'll find blog posts from Mark (the guy who owns the company and started this whole thing) and Jono who has a community relations role. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ayatana / Lens searches for tokens only
Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > Related to that, the Lens searches seem to be based on tokens of entire > words, not substrings. They are delimited by whitespace or changes in > capitalisation. > > For instance, I have Handbrake installed. The desktop file gives a > description of "HandBrake". The capital letter B is significant. If I > search for "hand" or "brake", it appears. If I search for "Handbrake", > "handb", or anything that crosses the capital B, the search fails. > > Further, if I search for "and", it doesn't find HandBrake at all. Searches > must begin at the start of a word. This *really* needs to be fixed. This is roughly how I'd expect it to work, I must admit - I'd certainly think of that as a difference in preference rather than 'broken'; I don't know the last time I searched for something and the first thing that came to mind was the middle of the word. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 12.10: advertising lenses
Juergen Schinker wrote: > > > 2) It's uninstallable > > Good but not good enough - the default must be uninstalled This isn't Debian, some would say that's a good thing. > > 3) It's not a constant keepalive, only when you search in the home > > screen of the dash > > 4) It doesn't go directly to Amazon (or other stores) anyway. It's > > proxied via a Canonical server which anonymizes the requests. > > Why is there no full Transparancy about this -the more i dig the more comes > out... What's being hidden? This was implemented *days* ago and there's already arguments about it all over the Internet. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Helping dual boot/wubi
On 25 September 2012 21:32, Andres wrote: > Sorry long email but I do not know how to separate it in chunks. > > > " > Not all updates can be installed > run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. > This could be cause by: > *a previous upgrade that could not complete > *problems with some of the installed software > * unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu > *normal changes of a pre-realease of ubuntu. > > I recently had the same error messages, and the problem was, very simply - a full hard disk. As you are using Wubi, I feel it is likely that you may be experiencing the same problem. -- Regards, Andy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Helping dual boot/wubi
Sorry long email but I do not know how to separate it in chunks. > I attach the screen shots and as mentioned plan to the install the > new system from the SD Card some time on Thursday. > Hello All, Yesterday I tried to help a friend who's installation would not update. I thought it was ubuntu on a dual boot way. But when I got there I realized that in reality it was wubi. The system was all backed up in a separate NTFS partition and was ready to start over. So we did a live USB (live SD in this case) of ubuntu 64 bit (the machine is an HP pavilion 64 bit with windows 7). The live mode worked fine and we selected try ubuntu. By the way how can I suggest to make the button bigger so that it covers the image as well? Within the live mode we clicked install but it only offered earse all or something else. And in the something else option I was a bit scared because it seemed the only way to create a partition for a new ubuntu installation was by changing the full partition table. Why isn't there the install alongside windows option? I quit the installation and it gave me an error that was an already reported bug. Very nice, it even guided me to the bug report in case I wanted to add comments. None needed. I then went back to the wubi install. The main thing that my friend wanted is for it to boot directly to ubuntu by default. It now defaults to win7. I thought there might be some sort of options program within the ubuntu installation in windows but I could not find that. I also could not find a place within windows 7 to change those boot options. So second fail on my part. Last option was to check the issue of it not updating. There was 0.5GB waiting to be updated. Many of it was security updates. So I said it was worth just selecting an update (and it's dependencies) and try that. The window would just be stuck in the "wait..." We waited for a couple of minutes and ran out of conversation so I thought something was wrong. I then tried to run update-manager from the command line and a different error came up. before loading the list of updates available. This error was the error that my friend was having in the past: " Not all updates can be installed run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. This could be cause by: *a previous upgrade that could not complete *problems with some of the installed software * unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu *normal changes of a pre-realease of ubuntu. " The ubuntu on windows thing was installed on July 2012 version 12.04 so it shouldn't be that. Possibly problems with installed software? the only unofficial source found was google talk. Pre-release definitely not. I then click on partial upgrade and I got the following error. " unable to get excluse lock. this normally means that another package management is running like apt-get or aptitude). Please close that aplication first. " I did not have that one open. After I left the situation got worst: " A couple of new changes I have noted: I can now access the Software Centre Screen I still can't load or remove programs. 1. My disc utility program, which I have been using to access my big joint memory 503 GB partition, come up with a blank screen. I have tried replacing it but as mentioned in 1 above I can't add or remove programmes. 2. I am only mentioning this now, as I feel I need to start installing the other version of Ubuntu, because I want it all working before I get to (...). I would be gratefully to receive any suggestions before I move on to that. " I recommended to reinstall ubuntu the wubi way since it was the quickest: I cannot do the installation in such short notice. Also since my friend had done it once it should be easy to reproduce. hopefully it is the best. But it seems I have broken something. But I do not know how. My friend really does not like to use windows and really likes ubuntu much better so before he leaves on Thursday he would like to get ubuntu working. Apart from the questions above I wanted to know if I took a wrong turn somewhere or if I could have done this a better way. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] problem with Radeon driver and screen resolution
Thanks, it worked for me. So much better without that logo ruining the experience. David K On 25/09/12 19:10, A wrote: Glad it worked out, but i can do one better - how to get rid of that watermark. The solution's plastered all over the internet, but this looks less intimidating than some of the other sites: http://www.ubunturoot.com/2012/07/remove-amdati-drivers-testing-only.html As for me, I'm on ubuntu 12.10 waiting for the next fglrx legacy release compatible with X 1.13 (i could downgrade but 1.13 feels deliciously fluid.) The current fglrx in the repos can't be installed because there's a dependency error on xserver-input-api 11, 12 or 13 (IIRC). The opensource radeon driver's not terrible for my Mobility 4200 HD card (it looks great actually), but the power options do next to nothing compared to the proprietary driver when my laptop's not idle. Idle i get 52 degrees, but it likes to accrue up to 71 ish if i'm watching a fullscreen video or playing minecraft whereas past fglrxs stick the temp happily around 58, even under pressure. For now, it's time to play the waiting game :( On 25/09/12 17:54, David King wrote: On 21/09/12 02:41, A wrote: Hi, David. I've had similar issues to you before and i'd suggest you install the proprietary drivers (fglrx) (it automatically blacklists the radeon driver to avoid conflicts) and then do the following command (sudo aticonfig --initial) before you restart, because this command will generate a fresh xorg.conf file which will make the fglrx module responsible for the screen. If that works, you can then edit the xorg.conf and change the resolution to something higher etc At any rate, it should list available resolutions. I hope this works for you if you haven't solved your problem already :) 4. Install the driver with sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle 5. Generate a fresh xorg.conf BEFORE REBOOTING! sudo aticonfig --initial Thanks for the info, A. I tried what you suggested and it worked. Although I now have a logo on the bottom right of the screen which says "AMD Unsupported hardware" which I would like to get rid of. On the plus side, I can attach my HD TV and use that at its full resolution and have my smaller monitor at a suitable resolution for it. I also found that I could not run the AMD Catalyst Control Center as root from the menu, I had to do it from CLI: sudo amdcccle At least it all works now and when I upgrade my monitor to the same size as my TV I will use both at 1920 x 1080. David K -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 12.10: advertising lenses
On 25/09/12 20:17, keith wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:18:41 +0100 J Fernyhough wrote: [snip] It will be interesting to see how much referral income you actually get. I'm surprised people even use the Dash/Lens thing. I find it rather pointless and slow and almost never have a need to use it(them) at all. Al -- Libertus Solutions http://www.libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 12.10: advertising lenses
On 25/09/12 20:17, keith wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:18:41 +0100 J Fernyhough wrote: [snip] One solution is pretty straightforward: make online search features an option in the installer (same page as third-party codecs) with a link to the privacy policy etc. [/snip] How about a 'first run' screen similar to CentOS/Redhat installer except for each user that is created? You could page through some choices like country/codecs/advert choices/main use of device/ etc and the relevant country specific legal stuff could appear on each page. I suspect once the lawyers get going (privacy laws being different in different countries and for different age groups) we will need to have some kind opt in agreement anyway, so why not make it tidy and user friendly for those not in the know about stuff like this? that sounds annoying The other issue is perhaps more personal to me: it just seems a *waste* somehow of bandwidth (I know, a few bytes in the firehose &c) and of server cycles (yes, I know, microscopic) to generate 'suggestions' for search terms like 'alf*19960401*crbok*.odt' or 'data*mean*sd' or similar. I'm not thinking about buying things when I'm searching for documents. Amazon don't have a profile to filter against previous purchases so the suggestions will be low quality and unspecific anyway. that is why you can click on the specific lens you want to search in to focus your search. If you want to search just in the documents lens then do that, if you want to fire your search across a heap of places then you can search in the home lens. Not all lenses will support wildcard searches. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 12.10: advertising lenses
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:18:41 +0100 J Fernyhough wrote: [snip] > > One solution is pretty straightforward: make online search features an > option in the installer (same page as third-party codecs) with a link > to the privacy policy etc. [/snip] How about a 'first run' screen similar to CentOS/Redhat installer except for each user that is created? You could page through some choices like country/codecs/advert choices/main use of device/ etc and the relevant country specific legal stuff could appear on each page. I suspect once the lawyers get going (privacy laws being different in different countries and for different age groups) we will need to have some kind opt in agreement anyway, so why not make it tidy and user friendly for those not in the know about stuff like this? The other issue is perhaps more personal to me: it just seems a *waste* somehow of bandwidth (I know, a few bytes in the firehose &c) and of server cycles (yes, I know, microscopic) to generate 'suggestions' for search terms like 'alf*19960401*crbok*.odt' or 'data*mean*sd' or similar. I'm not thinking about buying things when I'm searching for documents. Amazon don't have a profile to filter against previous purchases so the suggestions will be low quality and unspecific anyway. It will be interesting to see how much referral income you actually get. -- cheers -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] problem with Radeon driver and screen resolution
Glad it worked out, but i can do one better - how to get rid of that watermark. The solution's plastered all over the internet, but this looks less intimidating than some of the other sites: http://www.ubunturoot.com/2012/07/remove-amdati-drivers-testing-only.html As for me, I'm on ubuntu 12.10 waiting for the next fglrx legacy release compatible with X 1.13 (i could downgrade but 1.13 feels deliciously fluid.) The current fglrx in the repos can't be installed because there's a dependency error on xserver-input-api 11, 12 or 13 (IIRC). The opensource radeon driver's not terrible for my Mobility 4200 HD card (it looks great actually), but the power options do next to nothing compared to the proprietary driver when my laptop's not idle. Idle i get 52 degrees, but it likes to accrue up to 71 ish if i'm watching a fullscreen video or playing minecraft whereas past fglrxs stick the temp happily around 58, even under pressure. For now, it's time to play the waiting game :( On 25/09/12 17:54, David King wrote: > > On 21/09/12 02:41, A wrote: >> Hi, David. I've had similar issues to you before and i'd suggest you >> install the proprietary drivers (fglrx) (it automatically blacklists >> the radeon driver to avoid conflicts) and then do the following >> command (sudo aticonfig --initial) before you restart, because this >> command will generate a fresh xorg.conf file which will make the >> fglrx module responsible for the screen. If that works, you can then >> edit the xorg.conf and change the resolution to something higher etc >> At any rate, it should list available resolutions. >> I hope this works for you if you haven't solved your problem already :) >> >> 4. Install the driver with >> >> sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle >> >> 5. Generate a fresh xorg.conf BEFORE REBOOTING! >> >> sudo aticonfig --initial >> >> > Thanks for the info, A. I tried what you suggested and it worked. > Although I now have a logo on the bottom right of the screen which > says "AMD Unsupported hardware" which I would like to get rid of. > > On the plus side, I can attach my HD TV and use that at its full > resolution and have my smaller monitor at a suitable resolution for it. > > I also found that I could not run the AMD Catalyst Control Center as > root from the menu, I had to do it from CLI: > > sudo amdcccle > > At least it all works now and when I upgrade my monitor to the same > size as my TV I will use both at 1920 x 1080. > > > David K > > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ayatana / Lens searches for tokens only
On 25/09/12 17:56, Alan Bell wrote: > On 25/09/12 16:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: >> Related to that, the Lens searches seem to be based on tokens of entire >> words, not substrings. They are delimited by whitespace or changes in >> capitalisation. >> >> For instance, I have Handbrake installed. > what is that then? trying to reproduce your issue but I can't find it, > what is the package name? Video transcoder: http://handbrake.fr/ I would have expected it to be in the repos as it's a well known app but it doesn't look like it is in universe. Apparently other people have had this problem because there's a question on the subject in AskUbuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/71128/how-do-i-install-handbrake Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ayatana / Lens searches for tokens only
On 25/09/12 16:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: Related to that, the Lens searches seem to be based on tokens of entire words, not substrings. They are delimited by whitespace or changes in capitalisation. For instance, I have Handbrake installed. what is that then? trying to reproduce your issue but I can't find it, what is the package name? Alan. -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] problem with Radeon driver and screen resolution
On 21/09/12 02:41, A wrote: Hi, David. I've had similar issues to you before and i'd suggest you install the proprietary drivers (fglrx) (it automatically blacklists the radeon driver to avoid conflicts) and then do the following command (sudo aticonfig --initial) before you restart, because this command will generate a fresh xorg.conf file which will make the fglrx module responsible for the screen. If that works, you can then edit the xorg.conf and change the resolution to something higher etc At any rate, it should list available resolutions. I hope this works for you if you haven't solved your problem already :) 4. Install the driver with sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle 5. Generate a fresh xorg.conf BEFORE REBOOTING! sudo aticonfig --initial Thanks for the info, A. I tried what you suggested and it worked. Although I now have a logo on the bottom right of the screen which says "AMD Unsupported hardware" which I would like to get rid of. On the plus side, I can attach my HD TV and use that at its full resolution and have my smaller monitor at a suitable resolution for it. I also found that I could not run the AMD Catalyst Control Center as root from the menu, I had to do it from CLI: sudo amdcccle At least it all works now and when I upgrade my monitor to the same size as my TV I will use both at 1920 x 1080. David K -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ayatana / Lens searches for tokens only
Having said this, "handb" and "handbrake" should work. In which case, this sounds like a defect against unity-lens-applications should be raised. On 25/09/12 17:44, Alan Bell wrote: > lenses listen to the seach query, they get a callback when it changes. > They can then use what the user has typed in whatever way they want to > get results. This means that one could be doing a substring search, > others an exact match, others case insensitive etc. So if it isn't > doing a very good search this is a bug in the individual lens, not a > general thing across all of them. There is a tradeoff between > fuzzyness and accuracy. Personally I am pretty unimpressed with the > results of fuzzy searches (like the HUD does) because it produces > random unexpected results that kind of anticipate me failing to type > stuff correctly. If I typed "and" I would *not* expect something > starting with H to get in the way of what I was actually looking for, > if I wanted something starting with H I would have typed it. > > On 25/09/12 16:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: >> Related to that, the Lens searches seem to be based on tokens of entire >> words, not substrings. They are delimited by whitespace or changes in >> capitalisation. >> >> For instance, I have Handbrake installed. The desktop file gives a >> description of "HandBrake". The capital letter B is significant. If I >> search for "hand" or "brake", it appears. If I search for "Handbrake", >> "handb", or anything that crosses the capital B, the search fails. >> >> Further, if I search for "and", it doesn't find HandBrake at all. >> Searches >> must begin at the start of a word. This *really* needs to be fixed. >> >> The Mint menu doesn't have a problem with any of these. >> >> Regards, >> Tyler >> >> On 2012-09-25 15:26, Bill B. wrote: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a >>> not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention >>> away >>> from the dash's real problems. >>> >>> As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly >>> show >>> required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12] >>> games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored. I know I >>> have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display >>> them as >>> a result. e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the >>> whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"! >>> >>> Good move, you clever Canonocallies... nothing like a bit of fog to >>> cover up in true American presidential election stylie ;) >>> > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ayatana / Lens searches for tokens only
lenses listen to the seach query, they get a callback when it changes. They can then use what the user has typed in whatever way they want to get results. This means that one could be doing a substring search, others an exact match, others case insensitive etc. So if it isn't doing a very good search this is a bug in the individual lens, not a general thing across all of them. There is a tradeoff between fuzzyness and accuracy. Personally I am pretty unimpressed with the results of fuzzy searches (like the HUD does) because it produces random unexpected results that kind of anticipate me failing to type stuff correctly. If I typed "and" I would *not* expect something starting with H to get in the way of what I was actually looking for, if I wanted something starting with H I would have typed it. On 25/09/12 16:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: Related to that, the Lens searches seem to be based on tokens of entire words, not substrings. They are delimited by whitespace or changes in capitalisation. For instance, I have Handbrake installed. The desktop file gives a description of "HandBrake". The capital letter B is significant. If I search for "hand" or "brake", it appears. If I search for "Handbrake", "handb", or anything that crosses the capital B, the search fails. Further, if I search for "and", it doesn't find HandBrake at all. Searches must begin at the start of a word. This *really* needs to be fixed. The Mint menu doesn't have a problem with any of these. Regards, Tyler On 2012-09-25 15:26, Bill B. wrote: Hi folks, I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention away from the dash's real problems. As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly show required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12] games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored. I know I have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display them as a result. e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"! Good move, you clever Canonocallies... nothing like a bit of fog to cover up in true American presidential election stylie ;) -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ayatana / Lens searches for tokens only
Related to that, the Lens searches seem to be based on tokens of entire words, not substrings. They are delimited by whitespace or changes in capitalisation. For instance, I have Handbrake installed. The desktop file gives a description of "HandBrake". The capital letter B is significant. If I search for "hand" or "brake", it appears. If I search for "Handbrake", "handb", or anything that crosses the capital B, the search fails. Further, if I search for "and", it doesn't find HandBrake at all. Searches must begin at the start of a word. This *really* needs to be fixed. The Mint menu doesn't have a problem with any of these. Regards, Tyler On 2012-09-25 15:26, Bill B. wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a > not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention away > from the dash's real problems. > > As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly show > required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12] > games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored. I know I > have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display them as > a result. e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the > whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"! > > Good move, you clever Canonocallies... nothing like a bit of fog to > cover up in true American presidential election stylie ;) > -- "[...] the effectiveness of pat-downs does not matter very much, because the obvious goal of the TSA is to make the pat-down embarrassing enough for the average passenger that the vast majority of people will choose high-tech humiliation over the low-tech ball check." -- Jeffrey Goldberg, "For the First Time, the TSA Meets Resistance" The Atlantic, 2010-10-29 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] On the subject of the dash my 2p worth
On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 15:32 +0100, Bruno Girin wrote: > On 25/09/12 15:26, Bill B. wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a > > not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention away > > from the dash's real problems. > > > > As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly show > > required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12] > > games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored. I know I > > have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display them as > > a result. e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the > > whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"! > > Good point! That's probably because it searches on descriptions and > titles, not on category. This sounds like a bug. I'll go and file it then! > > Cheers, > > Bruno > > Cheers, Bruno -- Cheers, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] On the subject of the dash my 2p worth
On 25/09/12 15:26, Bill B. wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a > not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention away > from the dash's real problems. > > As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly show > required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12] > games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored. I know I > have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display them as > a result. e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the > whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"! Someone else was way quicker than me, it's already been reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/810412 Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] On the subject of the dash my 2p worth
On 25/09/12 15:26, Bill B. wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a > not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention away > from the dash's real problems. > > As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly show > required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12] > games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored. I know I > have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display them as > a result. e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the > whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"! Good point! That's probably because it searches on descriptions and titles, not on category. This sounds like a bug. I'll go and file it then! Cheers, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] On the subject of the dash my 2p worth
Hi folks, I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention away from the dash's real problems. As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly show required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12] games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored. I know I have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display them as a result. e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"! Good move, you clever Canonocallies... nothing like a bit of fog to cover up in true American presidential election stylie ;) -- Cheers, Bill B. [SuperEngineer] -- -Registered Linux User 523667- -Registered Ubuntu User 32366- -Free as in Freedom-- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 12.10: advertising lenses
On 25/09/12 09:33, Juergen Schinker wrote: Why is there no full Transparancy about this -the more i dig the more comes out... J In a situation where there is no transparency then the more you dig nothing more comes out. What you are experiencing *is* transparency, where the more you dig the more you find out. read the source (you do not need to understand vala to be able to read it): https://code.launchpad.net/unity-lens-shopping https://code.launchpad.net/unity-lens-music (not new, but works exactly the same way as shopping) https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-lens-videos (not new, but works almost exactly the same way as shopping) here is the self documenting web service they proxy through http://productsearch.ubuntu.com/ in which you can find much transparency: http://productsearch.ubuntu.com/v1/search?q=transparency This is how lenses and scopes relate to each other https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses That documentation includes information on default searches and how lens specific searches and the global search results are formed. The only thing that I do not think has published and transparent source code is the web service. Alan -- I work at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 12.10: advertising lenses
> > > Canonical could engage in other ways gaining Revenue than > > patronizing end-users > > > > Suggestions welcome. We'd love to hear them! > Kickstarter, Indiegogo, Flattr, Donations wia Bitcoin etc > > A constant keepalive to Amazon is also not acceptable... > > > > 1) It's not just Amazon. even worse ... > 2) It's uninstallable Good but not good enough - the default must be uninstalled > 3) It's not a constant keepalive, only when you search in the home > screen of the dash > 4) It doesn't go directly to Amazon (or other stores) anyway. It's > proxied via a Canonical server which anonymizes the requests. Why is there no full Transparancy about this -the more i dig the more comes out... J -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
