Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade 9.04

[John Taylor]

Harry Rickards wrote:
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> John Taylor wrote:
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>> Harry Rickards wrote:
>> John Taylor wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>>>> Harry Rickards wrote:
>>>>> John Taylor wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>>>> Alan Pope wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2009/4/26 John Taylor :
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>> Seems to fail during calculating changes - could not calculate 
>>>>>>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? never happened before!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How did you try to upgrade?
>>>>>>>>> Can you attach your /etc/apt/sources.list and the contents of any
>>>>>>>>> files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Al.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>> It just offered the upgrade no request or input from me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list
>>>>>>>> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
>>>>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
>>>>>>>> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/: is a directory
>>>>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does this help?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> Try doing
>>>>> sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>>>>> and
>>>>> sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
>>>>> [sudo] password for john:
>>>>> # deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
>>>>> 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>>>>> # deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - 
>>>>> Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>>>> # deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
>>>>> 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>>>>> # deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - 
>>>>> Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>>>> # deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
>>>>> 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>>>>> # deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - 
>>>>> Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$
>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$ dir *tem
>>>>> dir: cannot access *tem: No such file or directory
>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>>>>> 
>>>>> ### Official Ubuntu Repositories ###
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>>>> # Gutsy Final Release Repository
>>>>> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ -

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade 9.04

[John Taylor]

Harry Rickards wrote:
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> John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> Harry Rickards wrote:
>> John Taylor wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>>>> Alan Pope wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>> 2009/4/26 John Taylor :
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Seems to fail during calculating changes - could not calculate upgrade
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any ideas? never happened before!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>> How did you try to upgrade?
>>>>>> Can you attach your /etc/apt/sources.list and the contents of any
>>>>>> files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Al.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>>> It just offered the upgrade no request or input from me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list
>>>>> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
>>>>> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/: is a directory
>>>>> j...@ubuntu:~$
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this help?
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>> Try doing
>> sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>> and
>> sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
>>
>>
>> 
>
>   
>> j...@ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
>> [sudo] password for john:
>> # deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
>> 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>> # deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - 
>> Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>> 
>
>   
>> # deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
>> 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>> # deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - 
>> Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>> 
>
>   
>> # deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
>> 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>> # deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - 
>> Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
>> 
>
>   
>> j...@ubuntu:~$
>> j...@ubuntu:~$ dir *tem
>> dir: cannot access *tem: No such file or directory
>> j...@ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>> 
>> ### Official Ubuntu Repositories ###
>> 
>> 
>
>   
>> # Gutsy Final Release Repository
>> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)]/ 
>> intrepid main restricted
>> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release i386 (20090420.1)]/ 
>> jaunty main restricted
>> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid main restricted universe 
>> multiverse
>> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted 
>> universe multiverse
>> 
>
>   
>> # Gutsy Security Updates
>> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main restricted 
>> universe multiverse
>> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main 
>> restricted universe multiverse
>> 
>
>   
>> # Gutsy Bugfix Updates
>> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-updates main restricted 
>> universe multiverse
>> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted 
>> universe multiverse
>> 
>
>   
>> # Gutsy Backports (new software versions, provided by the Ubuntu 
>> Backports Project)
>> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backports main 
>> restricted universe multiverse
>> 
>
>   
>> # Ubuntu Commercial
>> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
>> # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
>> 
>
>
>   
>> ##
>> ### Automatix Repositories ###
>> ##
>> 
>
>   
>> # deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt gutsy main
>> #AUTO

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade 9.04

[John Taylor]

Harry Rickards wrote:
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> John Taylor wrote:
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>> Alan Pope wrote:
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>>> 2009/4/26 John Taylor :
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> Seems to fail during calculating changes - could not calculate upgrade
>>>>
>>>> any ideas? never happened before!
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> How did you try to upgrade?
>>> Can you attach your /etc/apt/sources.list and the contents of any
>>> files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Al.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> It just offered the upgrade no request or input from me
>>
>>
>> j...@ubuntu:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list
>> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
>> j...@ubuntu:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
>> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/: is a directory
>> j...@ubuntu:~$
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> Try doing
> sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> and
> sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
>
>
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j...@ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[sudo] password for john:
# deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
8.04 "Hardy Heron"
# deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - 
Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"

# deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
8.04 "Hardy Heron"
# deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - 
Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"

# deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
8.04 "Hardy Heron"
# deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - 
Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"

j...@ubuntu:~$
j...@ubuntu:~$ dir *tem
dir: cannot access *tem: No such file or directory
j...@ubuntu:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list

### Official Ubuntu Repositories ###


# Gutsy Final Release Repository
# deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)]/ 
intrepid main restricted
deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release i386 (20090420.1)]/ 
jaunty main restricted
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid main restricted universe 
multiverse
# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted 
universe multiverse

# Gutsy Security Updates
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main restricted 
universe multiverse
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main 
restricted universe multiverse

# Gutsy Bugfix Updates
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-updates main restricted 
universe multiverse
# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted 
universe multiverse

# Gutsy Backports (new software versions, provided by the Ubuntu 
Backports Project)
# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backports main 
restricted universe multiverse

# Ubuntu Commercial
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner


##
### Automatix Repositories ###
##

# deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt gutsy main
#AUTOMATIX REPOS START

# deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt gutsy main
#AUTOMATIX REPOS END
# deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free
# deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free
# deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free


deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt intrepid main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 
8.10 "Intrepid Ibex"

j...@ubuntu:~$


Does this help?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade 9.04

[John Taylor]

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/4/26 John Taylor :
>   
>> Seems to fail during calculating changes - could not calculate upgrade
>>
>> any ideas? never happened before!
>>
>> 
>
> How did you try to upgrade?
> Can you attach your /etc/apt/sources.list and the contents of any
> files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>   
It just offered the upgrade no request or input from me


j...@ubuntu:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list
bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
j...@ubuntu:~$ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/: is a directory
j...@ubuntu:~$

Does this help?

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[ubuntu-uk] Upgrade 9.04

[John Taylor]

Seems to fail during calculating changes - could not calculate upgrade

any ideas? never happened before!

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[ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey1.1.12

[John Taylor]

Last week I upgraded to 1.1.12 with no immediate problems but after a
couple of days I couldn't send message's as I was informed that the
system could not accept my password. After much cursing and rebooting it
accepted my password and stopped playing *silly buggers*

Yesterday afternoon it refused to connect  to smtp.btinternet.com and
still does however Gmail, Evolution and Hotmail all connect OK.

Any help would be appreciated

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

LeeGroups wrote:
>> The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and
>> I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is
>> affected.any ideas?
>> 
>
>   
>> Hold down the 'alt' key and drag the window down with your left mouse 
>> button. Then resize the window to fit just less than the available 
>> screen area.
>>
>> 
> Yes, that's a a quick fix, but this bug has been around since Edgy, 
> though it seems to be happening less and less often.
> I've only seen it happen once under Hardy...
>
> Lee
>
>
>   
hanks for information never had this problem for the 3 years since I 
started with ubuntu.. it only happening about mid-day today. 
resizing doesn't work... just lost capital letters as well, bugger it's 
going to be one of those daysanyway thanks for informationany 
more suggestion's welcomed

ohn john


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Sean Miller wrote:
> Hide the top bar is my only suggestion can do that by right
> clicking on the bar, Properties and "Show Hide Buttons"... you'll then
> get nice < > things at each side that allows you to hide the bar.
>
> Sean
>
>   
Many thanks, sanity returns

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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Help

The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and 
I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is 
affected.any ideas?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Ted wrote:
> John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> Ted wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> John Taylor wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> Andrew Oakley wrote:
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> Ted wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>>> John Taylor wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
>>>>>>> **??!! cube
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>> In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
>>>>>> Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Correct answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> The geometry of the "pivoting" (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
>>>>> is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
>>>>> defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.
>>>>>
>>>>> A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.
>>>>>
>>>>> An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
>>>>> the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
>>>>> change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
>>>>> include the top cap and bottom cap).
>>>>>
>>>>> There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
>>>>> workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
>>>>> workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
>>>>> dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
>>>>> GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
>>>>> limit, it must be a pretty silly one.
>>>>>
>>>>> For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
>>>>> same as the number of workspaces of my "cube". In that way, if I ever 
>>>>> switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
>>>>> days), I still have the same number of desktops.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
>>>>> Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
>>>>> at least not with the Compiz "Cube".
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>> Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> John..
>>> The sphere looks good...
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> Where are these "round objects" can't see them
>>
>> John
>>
>>   
>> 
> Settings manager cube reflection & deformation deformation..
>
>   
Help have lost control of Seamonkey the top of its header disappears 
under the top icon bar of screen and I can't shift it in any 
direction.doesn't happen to any other programme

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Ted wrote:
> John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> Andrew Oakley wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Ted wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>>> John Taylor wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>>> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
>>>>> **??!! cube
>>>>>   
>>>>> 
>>>>>   
>>>> In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
>>>> Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
>>>> 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> Correct answer.
>>>
>>> The geometry of the "pivoting" (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
>>> is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
>>> defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.
>>>
>>> A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.
>>>
>>> An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
>>> the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
>>> change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
>>> include the top cap and bottom cap).
>>>
>>> There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
>>> workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
>>> workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
>>> dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
>>> GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
>>> limit, it must be a pretty silly one.
>>>
>>> For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
>>> same as the number of workspaces of my "cube". In that way, if I ever 
>>> switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
>>> days), I still have the same number of desktops.
>>>
>>> I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
>>> Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
>>> at least not with the Compiz "Cube".
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John
>>
>>   
>> 
> John..
> The sphere looks good...
>
>   
Where are these "round objects" can't see them

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Andrew Oakley wrote:
> Ted wrote:
>   
>> John Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
>>> **??!! cube
>>>   
>> In General Settings do you have number of desktops set to 2...I have 
>> Horizontal size 4, vert size 1 and number of desktops 2
>> 
>
> Correct answer.
>
> The geometry of the "pivoting" (rotating) desktop virtualiser in Compiz 
> is related directly to the number of horizontal sides. In Ubuntu this 
> defaults to 2, which gives you a geometric plane with a front and back.
>
> A cube has 4 workspaces (horizontal sides) plus a top cap and bottom cap.
>
> An easy way of setting this whilst Compiz is running, is to right-click 
> the Workspace Switcher on your Gnome panel, select Preferences and 
> change the number of Columns (to 4, for a cube; total 6 sides when you 
> include the top cap and bottom cap).
>
> There are other possibilities, such as an extruded triangle (3 
> workspaces), extruded pentangle (5 workspaces), extruded hexagon (6 
> workspaces) and so forth. I got up to at least 12 workspaces (extruded 
> dodecagon) before I got bored, and both the Intel i965 and Nvidia 
> GeForce2 graphics cards coped fine with that. If there is an upper 
> limit, it must be a pretty silly one.
>
> For ease of use, I typically set my number of virtual desktops to the 
> same as the number of workspaces of my "cube". In that way, if I ever 
> switch Compiz Fusion off (or it crashes - which rarely happens these 
> days), I still have the same number of desktops.
>
> I am entirely uncertain what effect the Rows preference has in the 
> Compiz Workspace Switcher. I can't see that it does anything at all, or 
> at least not with the Compiz "Cube".
>
>   
Thanks Chaps, simple when you know how, will play for hours!

Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Philip Wyett wrote:
>
>
> 2008/6/19 John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>
> Have installed Compiz through the correct channel but it has not
> offered
> me an initial cube even though all the correct box's in ccsm are
> ticked
>
> Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no
> **??!! cube
>
> Have been on to web site and got the green OK's that machine is OK and
> capable
>
> It must be a simple answer but I'm dammed if I can see it
>
> Any constructive ideas please?
>
> John Taylor
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> CTRL + ALT + Click and move your mouse - if memory serves.
Sorry but that doesn't work for me, thanks all the same

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[ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion

[John Taylor]

Have installed Compiz through the correct channel but it has not offered 
me an initial cube even though all the correct box's in ccsm are ticked

Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no 
**??!! cube

Have been on to web site and got the green OK's that machine is OK and 
capable

It must be a simple answer but I'm dammed if I can see it

Any constructive ideas please?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online banking

[John Taylor]

keith wrote:
> I've just upgraded to Hardy Heron and tried to access my online Natwest Bank 
> page, only to be confronted with a message telling me that my browser 
> (Firefox 3) is not acceptable.  I have spoken to the bank's online banking 
> department and I might just as well have been speaking to next door's cat for 
> all the help they were.
>
> Has anyone else come across this problem and been able to resolve it?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Keith.
>
>  
> ---
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> Prestwood, south Staffs, England.
> Using Ubuntu 8.04 on a Linux only machine
>
>
>   
I've never had any problem with Lloyd's TSB or any of the O/S browsers 
etc.,but I know the cat... sorry I cant be more helpful

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bottom Screen Bar

[John Taylor]

Wulfy wrote:
> John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> Thanks for info...have tried your suggestion but it doesn't do what I 
>> want (at least on my machine).. a simple example is the MPPLAYER 
>> (Gnome) I activate it, produce music, minimize at which moment it 
>> disappears like a ferret down a drainpipe but the only way I can switch 
>> off the station is to reboot!
>>
>> John
>> 
> I use Kubuntu, not Ubuntu so this may not work for you.  I got rid of 
> the taskbar ages ago, as it just took up real estate on my kicker 
> panel.  Now, when I have something minimised (or behind a maximised 
> window) I just do an  and get a window list on the current 
> desktop.  That will bring back the "lost" window...
>
>   
Thanks chaps all ideas and variations on the theme work, sorry for delay 
in acknowledgement

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bottom Screen Bar

[John Taylor]

Alec Wright wrote:
> Right click on the top one and click New Panel
> Drag the new panel to the bottom if it aint already there
> Right click on the new panel click on add to panel and choose the
> things you want to add. In mine it goes: Show desktop, Window list
> (not selector), workspace switcher, trash.
> On 12/02/2008, John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> After updating to 7.10 some time ago I lost the bottom bar on the screen
>> where the trash can (how I hate that American word) used to sit along
>> with other  minimised programs, how the  hell can I get it back!
>>
>> John Taylor
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>
>   
Alec

Thanks for info...have tried your suggestion but it doesn't do what I 
want (at least on my machine).. a simple example is the MPPLAYER 
(Gnome) I activate it, produce music, minimize at which moment it 
disappears like a ferret down a drainpipe but the only way I can switch 
off the station is to reboot!

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[ubuntu-uk] Botton Screen Bar

[John Taylor]

After updating to 7.10 some time ago I lost the bottom bar on the screen 
where the trash can (how I hate that American word) used to sit along 
with other  minimised programs, how the  hell can I get it back!

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[ubuntu-uk] Bookmarks

[John Taylor]

I have 7.10 with Gnome, when I first updated I could swear that in the 
drop down menu within "Places" there was a sub-menu of Bookmarks, if so 
how do I get it back or am I just demented?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost Signal

[John Taylor]

Robert McWilliam wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:12:17 +, "Robert McWilliam"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>   
>> /etc/xorg.conf  
>> 
>
> Actually i think i've missed a level in that path. It should be
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something similar, sorry i'm not at an actual
> computer ATM to check. 
> 
> Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com
>
> Everything should be made as simple as possible - but no simpler.
>   -- Albert Einstein
>
>
>   
Robert

Went back into xfile and manually reset everything the hard
way.perhaps the best way. "Screens and Graphics" in system
administration appears to be a useless bit of kit and managed to get
most of the set-up wrong for my Toshiba 20WLT56B monitor.

It's working fine now, thanks for your help most appreciated?


John

For info:-

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /etc/xorg.conf
bash: /etc/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /etc/X11/xorg.conf
bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost Signal

[John Taylor]

Robert McWilliam wrote:
> On 09/01/08 12:01:18, John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> Thanks reply but that's not the answer I set the resolution as max of 
>> 1360*768 or sometimes a little less just to try something different but 
>> the screen stays the same i.e. equivalent of about 15 inches - if I tick 
>> the "*wide Screen box*" screen stays the same size but I have to scroll 
>> the text (picture etc) from left to right to read it.
>>
>> Is xfile playing silly buggers overriding the settings?
>> 
>
> Hmm, X might not be using the highest resolution listed in your xorg.conf, 
> there is some interrogating the monitor to see what it supports stuff that 
> doesn't always work. 
>
> If you run "xrandr" in a terminal what resolution does it report is being 
> used, and does it list any other options?
>
> 
> Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com
>
> Conscious is when you are aware of something and conscience is when
> you wish you weren't.
>
>
>   
Robert

does this help

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
default connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 0mm x 0mm
1024x768 60.0*
800x600 56.0
640x480 60.0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost Signal

[John Taylor]

Robert McWilliam wrote:
> On 08/01/08 19:55:26, John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> We have a miniaturised screen, don't ask me how or why. I went 
>> through your suggestions three or four times before swearing at the 
>> machine and then it happened and it can up with half an answer, a 15 
>> inch screen or thereabouts and I have about 3 inches either side just black.
>>
>> Do you (can You or your cohorts?) take this any further or shall I troll 
>> the airways for some other kind souls?
>> 
>
> That sounds a lot like the resolution is lower than the native resolution of 
> the screen. Do you have the documentation for your screen handy to look up 
> what it's native resolution is? If not it can usually be found by googling 
> the 
> model number. 
>
> 
> Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com
>
> Hardware: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.
>
>
>   
Robert

Thanks reply but that's not the answer I set the resolution as max of 
1360*768 or sometimes a little less just to try something different but 
the screen stays the same i.e. equivalent of about 15 inches - if I tick 
the "*wide Screen box*" screen stays the same size but I have to scroll 
the text (picture etc) from left to right to read it.

Is xfile playing silly buggers overriding the settings?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost Signal

[John Taylor]

Rob Beard wrote:
> John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> Rob Beard wrote:
>>     
>>> John Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> Tried suggestion twice but it tries to load but to no avail(I say OK to 
>>>> all suggestion)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cant boot with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" - have to switch off
>>>>
>>>> Any other ideas?.When it tries to load desktop I hear a sound of 
>>>> drums in the distance very faint!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> If you're saying yes to all questions it could be trying to use a 
>>> resolution that isn't suitable for your monitor (I've seen this on my 
>>> other half's desktop with a 15" LCD, it tries to use a default of 
>>> 1280x1024!).
>>>
>>> Did you select the right graphics card driver?
>>>
>>> Maybe using vesa might work?
>>>
>>> When you get to the video modes used by the X server (it's in the 
>>> monitor configuration), try scrolling down the list.
>>>
>>> On my machine it has a asterisk next to 1280x1024, 1152x864, 1024x768, 
>>> 800x600 and 640x480.  Looks a bit like this...
>>>
>>> [*] 1280x1024
>>> [ ] 1280x800
>>> [ ] 1280x768
>>> [ ] 1200x800
>>> [*] 1152x864
>>> [ ] 1152x768
>>> [*] 1024x768
>>> [*] 800x600
>>> [*] 640x480
>>>
>>> It might be worth de-selecting anything higher than 1024x768 (just 
>>> select the item from the list and press the space bar to select/deselect 
>>> an item).
>>>
>>> When it comes to selecting monitor characteristics, try using the Simple 
>>> selection and selecting the size nearest to your screen size (if it's a 
>>> TFT monitor you *might* get away with selecting the next size up).
>>>
>>> After you've reconfigured X, don't forget to restart gdm (or just issue 
>>> the command startx at the command line prompt to give it a try).  If you 
>>> get any error messages, try and post them if you can.
>>>
>>> Anyway, hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> Rob
>>
>> I get
>>
>> Fatal server error
>> server is already active for display 0
>>
>> If sever is no longer running remove ?temp/.X0 lock
>>
>> Theres a lot more - how do I copy this by email to you?
>>
>> John
>>
>> 
>
> Could you try running the command
>
> sudo reboot
>
> Hopefully this should reboot the PC.
>
> Ta,
>
> Rob
>
>   
We have a miniaturised screen, don't ask me how or why. I went 
through your suggestions three or four times before swearing at the 
machine and then it happened and it can up with half an answer, a 15 
inch screen or thereabouts and I have about 3 inches either side just black.

Do you (can You or your cohorts?) take this any further or shall I troll 
the airways for some other kind souls?

Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost Signal

[John Taylor]

Rob Beard wrote:

John Taylor wrote:

  
Tried suggestion twice but it tries to load but to no avail(I say OK to 
all suggestion)



Cant boot with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" - have to switch off

Any other ideas?.When it tries to load desktop I hear a sound of 
drums in the distance very faint!



Regards
John




If you're saying yes to all questions it could be trying to use a 
resolution that isn't suitable for your monitor (I've seen this on my 
other half's desktop with a 15" LCD, it tries to use a default of 
1280x1024!).


Did you select the right graphics card driver?

Maybe using vesa might work?

When you get to the video modes used by the X server (it's in the 
monitor configuration), try scrolling down the list.


On my machine it has a asterisk next to 1280x1024, 1152x864, 1024x768, 
800x600 and 640x480.  Looks a bit like this...


[*] 1280x1024
[ ] 1280x800
[ ] 1280x768
[ ] 1200x800
[*] 1152x864
[ ] 1152x768
[*] 1024x768
[*] 800x600
[*] 640x480

It might be worth de-selecting anything higher than 1024x768 (just 
select the item from the list and press the space bar to select/deselect 
an item).


When it comes to selecting monitor characteristics, try using the Simple 
selection and selecting the size nearest to your screen size (if it's a 
TFT monitor you *might* get away with selecting the next size up).


After you've reconfigured X, don't forget to restart gdm (or just issue 
the command startx at the command line prompt to give it a try).  If you 
get any error messages, try and post them if you can.


Anyway, hope this helps.

Rob

  

Rob

I get

Fatal server error
server is already active for display 0

If sever is no longer running remove ?temp/.X0 lock

Theres a lot more - how do I copy this by email to you?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost Signal

[John Taylor]

Tony Arnold wrote:

John,

John Taylor wrote:
  

This being sent from SM within Vista - have lost contact with Ubuntu

Was trying  to adjust screen size on monitor  through  "Screen and Video 
card" when I got a warning message that something  had broken (not 
completed) when I rebooted a little later blank screen with signal out 
of range which usually a couple of wiggles with the mouse  cured  but 
not this time



I would boot up Ubuntu and when the blank screen appears hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
and get into a virtual console. Log in there and do:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

and answer the questions. Mostly the defaults will work.

Then reboot or restart X using:

sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart

Regards,
Tony.
  

Tony


Tried suggestion twice but it tries to load but to no avail(I say OK to 
all suggestion)



Cant boot with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" - have to switch off

Any other ideas?.When it tries to load desktop I hear a sound of 
drums in the distance very faint!



Regards
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lost Signal

[John Taylor]

Tony Arnold wrote:

John,

John Taylor wrote:
  

This being sent from SM within Vista - have lost contact with Ubuntu

Was trying  to adjust screen size on monitor  through  "Screen and Video 
card" when I got a warning message that something  had broken (not 
completed) when I rebooted a little later blank screen with signal out 
of range which usually a couple of wiggles with the mouse  cured  but 
not this time



I would boot up Ubuntu and when the blank screen appears hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
and get into a virtual console. Log in there and do:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

and answer the questions. Mostly the defaults will work.

Then reboot or restart X using:

sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart

Regards,
Tony.
  

Tony

Thanks will try this evening

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[ubuntu-uk] Lost Signal

[John Taylor]

This being sent from SM within Vista - have lost contact with Ubuntu

Was trying  to adjust screen size on monitor  through  "Screen and Video 
card" when I got a warning message that something  had broken (not 
completed) when I rebooted a little later blank screen with signal out 
of range which usually a couple of wiggles with the mouse  cured  but 
not this time

Going into recovery mode confuses me - any ideas?

John





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[ubuntu-uk] Gnome!

[John Taylor]

For reason totally beyond me I can not install latest SeaMonkey on
Gnome Desktop - I have followed the instructions but a big no!

It was (is) there under KDE and has(is) letting me access the old
desktop file but cant update or see Icon on Gnome

Any bright ideas its driving me balmy

John


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Do we have a forum?

[John Taylor]

Darren Mansell wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 10:35 +0100, John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> VM would be  nice and being able to instantly flick (click) from
>> windows to Ubuntu - perhaps some of the youngsters might help one
>> day!!
>>
>> John Taylor 
>> 
>
> Anyone around Birmingham/Worcs area is free to ask my Linux services.
>
>
>   
Is Oxford near enough?

What are your services - mentoring in an old fashion way perhaps?

Anyone who will stick with me 'till wine and VM are sorted can be an 
adopted (honorary) member of the family

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Do we have a forum?

[John Taylor]

Victor Meldrew wrote:

  On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:26:52 +0100, Nik Butler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
James Grabham wrote:


  Is there an Ubuntu UK forum anywhere?
  

well yes and no.

We do have a forum , but we really want to have it integrated into the 
mail list.  There is however nothing to stop people using the forums, 
nothing at all in fact, but we would hate to miss out on announcements, 
invites, discussions and ideas on the forum or maill list because of the 
duality of the communication medium.

  
  
As an old newbie to linux (76 ish) I prefer mailing lists & usenet to
Web Forums (sorry if the terminology is wrong) I'm sure you know what
I mean.

As a long time Windows/DOS user I still find linux difficult.

I've been using some of my essential programs for over 10 years,
Quicken (finance) and Sidekick (contacts)

(amongst others)

I've tried to use wine and vmware to run these programs using linux
but for me it's too difficult and not worth the effort.

I'll keep following the discussions.
Thank you all that there are still alternatives to Windows & MAC.

  

Vic

Its my birthday today (I don't believe it!) and I'm a 30's baby and
suffer as you do. most probably for the same reasons

Never managed to get wine and Adobe working together - they just sit
there and "glower" at each other but never actually talk

VM would be  nice and being able to instantly flick (click) from
windows to Ubuntu - perhaps some of the youngsters might help one day!!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows makes PCs cheaper to buy! ... we need to respond [Dell crapware]

[John Taylor]

Alec Wright wrote:

On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 13:11 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote:
  
I think we ought to be making a far bigger play of the whole "Crapware" 
thing, which has done a great job of introducing hidden costs to running 
Windows


I expect people will start making crapware for ubuntu soon, with ads on
the desktop. Or maybe a seperate crapware submenu in the apps menu :)

Or: Make the smallest windows installation possible on the hard drive,
and completely fill it with crapware. Make ubuntu reformat that
partition to swap on first boot up :)
  

Don't be cynical now

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Mark Jose wrote:

On Tuesday 26 June 2007 17:21, John Taylor wrote:

  

For the life of me i cant find the correct path, none of your
suggestions or my permutations will work. What on earth am I doing wrong?

John



John,
When you installed seamonkey, using the installer thing, did you accept the 
default location of /usr/local/seamonkey?  If so, then that could well be the 
sort of path you need


/usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey  


would be the path in that case.
If you are not sure, you could try to locate the seamonkey binary using 
updatedb - 


sudo updatedb

If you haven't done that before, you will get a message that the database 
doesn't exist - ignore it and it will create one. It will take a few minutes 
perhaps if you have never done it before.

Once finished, you will be returned to the normal prompt.
Then try 

locate seamonkey | less 

which will list all instances of the word seamonkey in your system. The | less 
part will allow you to use the arrow keys to scroll through the list if there 
are lots of instances.  

If you started seamonkey without being in the seamonkey directory and using 
the ./seamonkey command, then it may be that the binary is installed 
somewhere useful like /usr/bin or whatever which is in your PATH ( don't 
worry about that). In that case, you may find simply putting seamonkey into 
the command box in the KDE Menu Editor would be enough.  I would start with 
that and see what happens I think. 


Mark

  

/home/john/seamonkey1.1.2
/home/john/seamonkey1.1.2/mozilla-thunderbird.desktop
/home/john/seamonkey1.1.2/firefox.desktop
/home/john/seamonkey1.1.2/.directory
/home/john/seamonkey
/home/john/seamonkey-installer
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/spellcheck.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/chatzilla.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/regus.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/xpcom.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/mail.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/reporter.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/psm.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/inspector.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/langenus.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/deflenus.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/talkback.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/venkman.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/xpi/browser.xpi
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/installer.ini
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/seamonkey-installer
/home/john/seamonkey-installer/README
:
I think Iv tried the all

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Mark Jose wrote:

On Tuesday 26 June 2007 13:49, John Taylor wrote:

  

Sorry but its KDE

Extra cheers
John



No problem!
Right click the menu button in the bottom left of your screen, and select Menu 
Editor.
As this is a browser, right click the Internet option in the Menu Editor 
option which has now come up.
Click New Item and, in the Dialog box, type in SeaMonkey or whatever you want 
to call it.
When you click OK, you will get a new area on the right, which has now filled 
in the name you chose and has a selection of different vacant spaces.
In Description, you can add one if you wish - e.g browser - but it isn't 
needed.

Nor is comment.
The important box is Command. There, you need to add the command to start 
SeaMonkey. It will probably be - 
/home/john/seamonkey1.1.2/seamonkey  or 
perhaps /home/john/seamonkey1.1.2/seamonkey/seamonkey   Basically, it is the 
full path to the actual seamonkey command you are using at the command line. 
Trial and error will find the correct path if you are not sure I expect.
That is all you need. (See below for the icon) Click Save and the menu will be 
updated - SeaMonkey will now reside under the menu > Internet.
The icon will be horrible though!  I would expect there is a SeaMonkey icon 
installed for you, but you will need to discover where that is. 
Probable locations are in /usr/share/seamonkey if that exists - perhaps in a 
folder called icons in there even?  Otherwise, I can install it fully here 
and find the icon if you can't locate it. It could be in the seamonkey 
directory in your /home , but /usr/share is the usual place.
To change the icon, simply use the Menu Editor as above, and click the square 
box which contains the rather boring file type icon. It will bring up a menu 
to locate the icon you wish to use. Click "Other Icons" and use the Browse 
button to go to where the SeaMonkey icon is (e.g /usr/share/seamonkey/icons).
Click the icon you want to use and then save. 
All done!
You can add icons to your desktop from the menu by dragging them to the 
desktop and choosing "Link here" from the menu which appears should you wish 
to.


Hope that is useful John - if you get stuck, feel free to shout!

Mark

  
For the life of me i cant find the correct path, none of your 
suggestions or my permutations will work. What on earth am I doing wrong?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

John Taylor wrote:
> Mark Jose wrote:
>   
>> On Tuesday 26 June 2007 13:12, John Taylor wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> We have lift off but where should it be (Seamonkey)
>>>
>>> file:///home/john/seamonkey
>>>
>>> If its this one how do I activate it?
>>>
>>> Sorry to be a pest
>>>
>>> John
>>> 
>>>   
>> Good news :)
>> To run it, you can cd into the seamonkey directory and use the command
>>
>> ./seamonkey
>>
>> If you want to add it to your menu, then there is a fairly straightforward 
>> explanation on the Seamonkey install page - 
>>
>> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/seamonkey1.1.2/installation.html#linux_install_installer
>>
>> About half way down the page is a heading "Adding SeaMonkey to the GNOME 
>> panel"  assuming you are using Gnome. If using KDE, let me know and I can 
>> explain how to add it to the menu there if you are not sure.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>>
>>   
>> 
> Sorry but its KDE
>
> Extra cheers
> John
>
>   
These are the error messages

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ seamonkey
bash: seamonkey: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd seamonkey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/seamonkey$ ./seamonkey
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
Major opcode: 145
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
Major opcode: 145
Minor opcode: 3
Resource id: 0x0
Failed to open device

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

John Taylor wrote:

Mark Jose wrote:
  

On Tuesday 26 June 2007 13:12, John Taylor wrote:

  


We have lift off but where should it be (Seamonkey)

file:///home/john/seamonkey

If its this one how do I activate it?

Sorry to be a pest

John

  

Good news :)
To run it, you can cd into the seamonkey directory and use the command

./seamonkey

If you want to add it to your menu, then there is a fairly straightforward 
explanation on the Seamonkey install page - 


http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/seamonkey1.1.2/installation.html#linux_install_installer

About half way down the page is a heading "Adding SeaMonkey to the GNOME 
panel"  assuming you are using Gnome. If using KDE, let me know and I can 
explain how to add it to the menu there if you are not sure.


Cheers,
Mark

  


Sorry but its KDE

Extra cheers
John

  
Well this is coming from the bowels of Kubuntu - don't ask me how, there 
were error messages flying everywhere but the SeaMonkey screen I love 
appearedso hear we are :-) 8-)

Looks different from Windows version but I'll work on that - no Icon!?

Don't leave me yet :-\

John



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Mark Jose wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 June 2007 13:12, John Taylor wrote:
>
>   
>> We have lift off but where should it be (Seamonkey)
>>
>> file:///home/john/seamonkey
>>
>> If its this one how do I activate it?
>>
>> Sorry to be a pest
>>
>> John
>> 
>
> Good news :)
> To run it, you can cd into the seamonkey directory and use the command
>
> ./seamonkey
>
> If you want to add it to your menu, then there is a fairly straightforward 
> explanation on the Seamonkey install page - 
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/seamonkey1.1.2/installation.html#linux_install_installer
>
> About half way down the page is a heading "Adding SeaMonkey to the GNOME 
> panel"  assuming you are using Gnome. If using KDE, let me know and I can 
> explain how to add it to the menu there if you are not sure.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>   
Sorry but its KDE

Extra cheers
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Mark Jose wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 June 2007 12:02, John Taylor wrote:
>
>   
>> Not sure this helps. but
>>
>> ./seamonkey-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
>> libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> 
>
> Yes it does. Looks like you are missing libstdc++.so.5
> That is a runtime library for C++.
> It is provided by libstdc++5, so you need to grab that from the repositories 
> - 
>
> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
>
> Then try running the seamonkey-installer once you have that file.
>
> Mark
>
>   
We have lift off but where should it be (Seamonkey)

file:///home/john/seamonkey

If its this one how do I activate it?

Sorry to be a pest

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Mark Jose wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 June 2007 11:14, John Taylor wrote:
>   
>> Mark Jose wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tuesday 26 June 2007 10:47, John Taylor wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> I have GTK2 version from yesterdays download.
>>>>
>>>> If I run
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./seamonkey-installer
>>>> bash: ./seamonkey-installer: is a directory
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>>>>  what do I do now?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>> try
>>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd ./seamonkey-installer
>>> then
>>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./seamonkey-installer
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>   
>> Mark
>>
>> Just the same as above!
>>
>> John
>> 
>
> John,
> The message that seamonkey-installer is a directory means you would need to 
> enter the directory first, thus the cd ./seamonkey-installer command I 
> mentioned.
> If it still complains, then I would have a look at the seamonkey folder you 
> created and see what it contains. You should have, if you followed the 
> instructions from the Mozilla site, 
> A folder called seamonkey1.1.2, containing a folder called xpi, a 
> seamonkey-installer-bin and 5 other text type files, one of which is called 
> seamonkey-installer. That one is a shell script which is what we are trying 
> to get to work. 
>   
Yes I have all above
> I would take a look at the folder called seamonkey1.1.2 and look around in 
> there - check that you have the various bits I mentioned. Once you find the 
> seamonkey-installer script, you could simply put the full path to it into a 
> command line eg
>
> sh /home/john/seamonkey1.1.2/seamonkey-installer/seamonkey-installer 
> or whatever the path is. In the example above, I am assuming that the script 
> is in a folder called seamonkey-installer, which is in the seamonkey1.1.2 
> folder.
>   
Inserting this doesn't seem to do anything
> If it would help, feel free to email me off the list and I am happy to work 
> through it with you step by step if it would help.
> I am a little surprised that there isn't a version of seamonkey in the Ubuntu 
> repositories actually - but I did check and there doesn't seem to be. 
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>   
Not sure this helps. but

./seamonkey-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Mark Jose wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 June 2007 10:47, John Taylor wrote:
>
>   
>> Mark
>>
>> I have GTK2 version from yesterdays download.
>>
>> If I run
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./seamonkey-installer
>> bash: ./seamonkey-installer: is a directory
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>>  what do I do now?
>>
>> John
>> 
>
> try 
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd ./seamonkey-installer
> then
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./seamonkey-installer
>
> Mark
>
>   

Mark

Just the same as above!

John


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Mark Jose wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 June 2007 06:18, John Taylor wrote:
>
>
>   
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gksudo ./seamonkey-installer
>> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
>>   Major opcode:  145
>>   Minor opcode:  3
>>   Resource id:  0x0
>> Failed to open device
>>
>>
>> What more can I tell you?
>>
>>
>> John
>> 
>
> Just spotted the reason for your Major opcode error btw - you are running the 
> installer as su - you won't need the gksudo bit in front of the installer 
> command. If you try again, with just ./seamonkey-installer, it should work. 
>
> OK, I have been nosing around the Seamonkey site. Firstly, I notice that the 
> 1.1.1 version has been superceded by 1.1.2 which fixes some serious security 
> problems, so I think I would grab that from Mozilla rather than attempting to 
> install the earlier version. 
> The download is at -
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/
> The Linux GTK2 version is the one you want.
> Running through the install on the mozilla website - 
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/seamonkey1.1.2/installation.html#linux_install_installer
>
> and all went fine here.  
>
> Mark
>
>   
Mark

I have GTK2 version from yesterdays download.

If I run
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./seamonkey-installer
bash: ./seamonkey-installer: is a directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
 what do I do now?

John



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Mark Jose wrote:
> On Monday 25 June 2007 23:29, John Taylor wrote:
>
>   
>> I get this far and then..gksudo ./seamonkey-installer ..bad, bad
>> doesn't like that lots of error message.
>>
>> Have at least made some progress tonight
>>
>> Hopefully talk with you tomorrow
>>
>> John
>> 
>
> I think we need to see the errors John - then we can decide what the problem 
> is. I expect there are missing dependancies. The problem with installing from 
> the source package is that you don't get the same service as you would from a 
> file in the Ubuntu repositories. In the repositories, if a download needs 
> other files upon which it depends, it will download those as well. From a 
> source package, you don't get that advantage.
> But the error message will explain (admittedly rather cryptically!) what else 
> you will need to install - probably from the repositories with a bit of luck.
>
> Mark
>
>   
Mark

You are a late bird - you need your beauty sleep!

This is what I have done so far

wget -c 
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/1.1.1/seamonkey-1.1.1.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz
tar zxvf seamonkey-1.1.1.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz
cd seamonkey-installer
gksudo ./seamonkey-installer <<<<- This is where it   doesn't  like it
sudo mv /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins.bak
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/plugins /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins
sudo ln -s /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey /usr/bin/seamonkey

All the above is a direct copy from 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey


I think I understand your above comments but why does it install under 
WINDOWS VISTA?

These are the error messages


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gksudo ./seamonkey-installer
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
  Major opcode:  145
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device


What more can I tell you?


John

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Mark Jose wrote:
> On Monday 25 June 2007 18:26, John Taylor wrote:
>
>   
>> I get down to the Manual "Install bit" and then it says it cant find cd
>> seamonkey-installer
>>
>> John
>> 
>
> Hi John,
> I can see what is wrong I think!
> When you untar the package, it probably created a folder called something 
> like 
> seamonkey-1.1.1
>
> What you need to do is to go into that folder, using the command line with 
>
> cd ./seamonkey-1.1.1(assuming the folder is in your /home folder - note 
> the dot before the slash)
> then press enter. You will now (at least in the command line) be in the 
> seamonkey-1.1.1 folder.
> Then you can issue the command 
>
> cd seamonkey-installer 
>
> and so on.
>
> If untarring the file created seamonkey-installer, rather than 
> seamonkey-1.1.1, then simply putting in the ./ bit would do the trick - 
>
> cd ./seamonkey-installer 
>
> (again, this assumes the folder is in your home directory! - if not, then 
> issue the full path to the seamonkey-installer instead of simply 
> seamonkey-installer and it will work)
>
> Mark
>
>
>   
I get this far and then..gksudo ./seamonkey-installer ..bad, bad 
doesn't like that lots of error message.

Have at least made some progress tonight

Hopefully talk with you tomorrow

John



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Lee Tambiah wrote:
>
> I get down to the Manual "Install bit" and then it says it cant
> find cd seamonkey-installer
>
> John
>
>
> I see, I only found the information in hope that it may help, I am not 
> a user of the Seamonkey project, so I'm not sure how the installer I 
> told you about works correctly. You could then provide us with how you 
> tried to install Seamonkey, and we can further advise.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lee
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I got all excited for the moment - I went onto the Seamonkey site and 
down loaded the Linux  version

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

Lee Tambiah wrote:
> How did you try to install it in Ubuntu
>
> On 6/25/07, *John Taylor* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> I have installed Seamonkey within VISTA with no problems just
> downloaded
> and it installed, no agro or other problems - but I cant seem to
> do it
> within ubuntu any ideas?
>
> John
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> Have you looked at:-
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey 
> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey>
>
> I would try the Automated Install of SeaMonkey...
>
> Regards
>
> Lee
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Lee

I get down to the Manual "Install bit" and then it says it cant find cd 
seamonkey-installer

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[ubuntu-uk] Seamonkey

[John Taylor]

I have installed Seamonkey within VISTA with no problems just downloaded 
and it installed, no agro or other problems - but I cant seem to do it 
within ubuntu any ideas?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] VMWare & Virtual machines (Was 'diabetes')

[John Taylor]

Eddie Armstrong wrote:

  John Taylor wrote:
  
  
More long words of the young... yes I have a kosher copy of  XP but 
how do I activate the Qemu beast so I can stuff the bloated MS 
software into the virtual abbess

  
  John  - Thanks for your kind words but I wont see fifty again :-(
  

I wont see 75 again


  As for QEMU I can't comment on the rest of the  paragraph (I daren't),   
I hope the others will oblige as I've only ever used VMWare and I'm not 
that experienced :-)
Eddie

  

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] VMWare & Virtual machines (Was 'diabetes')

[John Taylor]

Eddie Armstrong wrote:

  John
What qualifies for 'geriatric' these days (worried :-) )
  

More years than you can imagine  
:'( 


  re: Virtual Machines 
If you've got a *full* version of XP on CD (doesn't work with 'upgrades')
you can install, say VMWare, on Linux, then 'install'  XP into that so 
for most purposes you will have XP under Linux. However with OEM 
versions (the one that came with your PC) and most versions of Vista 
Microsoft prohibits this in their ever-changing EULAs (I hope somebody 
clarifies this as I may be out of date on this)
  


More long words of the young... yes I have a kosher copy of  XP but how
do I activate the Qemu beast so I can stuff the bloated MS software
into the virtual abbess

  
Wikipedia on Virtual Machines 
Wikipedia on VMWare 
Hope this helps

For Alan et al:  Can anyone clarify how the new KVM kernels with 
'virtualisation' built in fit into this scenario?
Eddie


  

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] VMWare & Virtual machines (Was 'diabetes')

[John Taylor]

Alan Pope wrote:

Hi Eddie,

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:50:44AM +0100, Eddie Armstrong wrote:
  
For Alan et al:  Can anyone clarify how the new KVM kernels with 
'virtualisation' built in fit into this scenario?



KVM is a kernel based "accelerator" for virtual machine technologies. It can 
be used by (for example) QEMU under linux. This allows you to utilise the 
vmx (Vanderpool/Virtualisation Technology) in the CPU. This is in feisty by 
default but can be used in other releases too.


KVM is only any use on newish CPUs that have the VT instructions, for 
non-VT-capable CPUs I use the KQEMU module with QEMU.


Cheers,
Al.

  
I have qemu(ed) I sent you a screen dump but duty mod person will say 
its to big (twice the allowable bites)


What do I do with all the drop down menus...do I ignore them and go for 
broke?


John (its going to be a long day)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diabetes

[John Taylor]

Alan Pope wrote:

  On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 19:39 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
  
  
2) Get VMWare - You can then run a copy of Windows inside your Linux
operating system. That way you can get access to your blood sugar
problem.

  
  
Or VirtualBox or QEMU (both of which are considerably less evil than
VMWare).

Cheers,
Al.
  

Guys

As a geriatric  what are these boxes and why are they evil?

Since changing my computer to a  HP 7750 slimline all singing all
dancing machine with pre-installed VISTA my life has been a misery, the
number of devices that don't work correctly  (or at all) with the OS is
unbelievable

  The diabetes monitor and its software
  
  The Canon printer/scanner
  The Adobe  Photo shop elements software
  All of the above shrug there shoulders and say it ain't my fault
governor and offer fatuous excuses

There  appears to be another problem if  I use one of these box things
how can I use XP  under  which all my existing  stuff worked?

  Vista is a pain in the bum!

Talk me through the "lesser of the evils" key stroke by key stroke and
I'll be eternally in your(s) debt

John





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[ubuntu-uk] Diabetes

[John Taylor]

Hi guy's

Do you know of anyone who provides Glucose Blood level meters that use open source software to transfer readings too a PC?

John Taylor



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