Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade from 6.06LTS!
Paul, In a superb case of timing I did exactly this last week... I have a very old box that backs up the contents of my home server every week. It all started as I wanted NFS4 on the backup server (see my other thread), and as Dapper has gone end of life now it seemed the perfect time to bring the box up to date. Wanting an easy life, I just upgraded from 6.06 to 8.04. That was the first gotcha - the repos don't exist any more, you need to fix the apt sources list to add "old-versions" lines. After that the upgrade sailed (slowly) through. Then onto 10.04 was fine too, moving to 12.04 came the second gotcha - the infamous 'cmov' / PAE issue. My box (though I'd quiet forgotten it) is based on cutting edge* Pentium II technology using the i386 kernel and it's no longer supported by mainstream Ubuntu. So I appear to be stuck on 10.04... hmm Shame, as the box has been doing sterling service for the last five years... Lee * circa 1997. On 27/11/12 14:13, Paul Tansom wrote: I have a server (i.e. no desktop software, X, or etc. - not that this necessarily follows, but it does with me!)... ...anyway, this server is currently running Ubuntu 6.06LTS and I need to upgrade to 12.04LTS. Clearly I have two options, either upgrade or reinstall. Reinstall seems safer, bar the fact that there is some software that I would need to disect the configuration of to reinstate (a backup using BoxBackup to be precise); that points towards a step by step upgrade path (8.04, 10.04 and 12.04), but I'm somewhat nervous of the number of possible gotchas present in this. Has anyone done this and could comment? Did it go smoothly?! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NFSv4 on new 12.04 server? Now USB issues...
Hi Tony, Yes, that's the machine. lsusb shows that all my hubs are 1.1 - Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 059f:1018 LaCie, Ltd Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0951:1606 Kingston Technology Eee PC 701 SD Card Reader [ENE UB6225] Bus 004 Device 002: ID eb1a:2761 eMPIA Technology, Inc. EeePC 701 integrated Webcam Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC And hence why the drives are running slow (LaCie and SD Card Reader). And why NFS performance is so poor... Which of your hubs does lsusb show as 2.0? I've just checked online and all three ports are supposed to be 2.0. I don't understand what's going on here, my lshw only shows 4 usb ports, usb0 - usb3, yours appears to show 5, 0 - 4 with the last one being ehci usb 2.0. Very odd... Also what version of Ubuntu are you running? and is it server or desktop? Cheers, Lee On 26/11/12 18:11, Tony Pursell wrote: On 25 November 2012 23:35, LeeGroups mailgro...@varga.co.uk wrote: Matt, It's a Lacie "Phil Starck" USB2.0 black box, with a 2TB Samsung F3 in it. From the speed, less than 1MB/sec, I'd agree, dmesg is also saying "full-speed" against everything USB. Am I right in thinking it should say "high-speed" ? And the $64K question, how do I fix it? I presume from some googling ehci-hcd should be loaded, but isn't??? Lee I have had a look at my EEEPC 701 (it's got a 900Mhz Celeron, 512MB RAM and 4GB HDD - is that the same as your's?). lsusb show USB2.0 and USB1.1 hubs. lshw shows more information: *-usb:0 description: USB controller product: 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d bus info: pci@:00:1d.0 version: 04 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:23 ioport:e400(size=32) *-usb:1 description: USB controller product: 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d.1 bus info: pci@:00:1d.1 version: 04 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:19 ioport:e480(size=32) *-usb:2 description: USB controller product: 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d.2 bus info: pci@:00:1d.2 version: 04 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:18 ioport:e800(size=32) *-usb:3 description: USB controller product: 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d.3 bus info: pci@:00:1d.3 version: 04 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:16 ioport:e880(size=32) *-usb:4 description: USB controller product: 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d.7 bus info: pci@:00:1d.7 version: 04 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:23 memory:f7eb7c00-f7eb7fff Someone might be able to interpret this for us, but there are 4 devices configured with uhci_hcd and one with ehci_hcd I wondering if you have tried all the USB ports. The single one on the left hand side does, I know, have some different properties. It is, for instance, the only one where I can boot from a USB stic
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NFSv4 on new 12.04 server? Now USB issues...
Simon/Matt, You are indeed correct, the speed of the USB drive appears to be the issue rather than the speed of the NFS share. Copying a 250MB file takes nearly 8 minutes... very poor... I've had a quick google which seems to suggest this issue has been around since 8.04. The suggested remedies do not seem to work however (adding grub options of pci=routeirq or pci=apci, yes I did update grub). Watching 'top' on another SSH session during the copy shows that the CPU use is around 5%, but the one minute load average is nearly 3, which I really don't understand... And this new server was going so well :( Lee On 24/11/12 19:41, Simon Greenwood wrote: My immediate response would be to check the speed of the USB drive against a share on the internal disk (assuming you still have the USB drive attached). Also make sure that DNS is resolving correctly and that the Eee knows about the client end. Also check the speed of your network interfaces. s/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] NFSv4 on new 12.04 server? Now USB issues...
Matt,
It's a Lacie "Phil Starck" USB2.0 black box, with a 2TB Samsung F3
in it.
From the speed, less than 1MB/sec, I'd agree, dmesg is also saying
"full-speed" against everything USB.
Am I right in thinking it should say "high-speed" ?
And the $64K question, how do I fix it?
I presume from some googling ehci-hcd should be loaded, but isn't???
Lee
Lee,
What's the brand of the USB drive? Sounds like it's running as a
USB1.1 device rather than USB2.
-Matt Daubney
On 25 November 2012 19:19, LeeGroups mailgro...@varga.co.uk
wrote:
Simon/Matt,
You are indeed correct, the speed of the USB drive appears
to be the issue rather than the speed of the NFS share.
Copying a 250MB file takes nearly 8 minutes... very
poor...
I've had a quick google which seems to suggest this issue
has been around since 8.04.
The suggested remedies do not seem to work however (adding
grub options of pci=routeirq or pci=apci, yes I did update
grub).
Watching 'top' on another SSH session during the copy
shows that the CPU use is around 5%, but the one minute
load average is nearly 3, which I really don't
understand...
And this new server was going so well :(
Lee
On 24/11/12 19:41, Simon Greenwood wrote:
My immediate response would be to
check the speed of the USB drive against a share on the
internal disk (assuming you still have the USB drive
attached). Also make sure that DNS is resolving
correctly and that the Eee knows about the client end.
Also check the speed of your network interfaces.
s/
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[ubuntu-uk] NFSv4 on new 12.04 server?
Chaps, I've recently upgraded my home server and moved to 12.04, but I'm having an issue with NFSv4, in that it's running really slowly, sub 1MB/sec transfer rate... The old server (a little Viglen with an external USB hard drive) averaged 2.9MB/sec, which while a little slow I could live with, now I've upgraded the server to Asus EEE 701, I expected the performance to at least double, instead it's bombed. I used the Minimal NFS How To on Ubuntu Docs, and then tried the Setting Up NFS How To, but no matter what I've tried it won't go any faster. Any ideas? Anyone else using NFSv4 successfully? Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu, BlackBerry PlayBook and Windows in VirtualBox
David, Sorry, only just got around to catching up with the mailing list and your email. If you can get the old PC working with windows, or just use another windows PC for a few mins, plug in your Playbook and let it install the drivers. Then install something like DriverMax or Driver Magician (both free downloads). These are windows driver backup programs. Run one of them and extract the drivers onto a USB stick. You can then uninstall the program and the drivers. Back in VBox, install the drivers from the USB stick. I've not tried it but it may well work! Lee On 15/06/12 14:34, David King wrote: I recently purchased a BlackBerry PlayBook. It's a great tablet, but it seems that RIM are not that Linux-friendly. Their OS is based on QNX, a Unix-type OS, so I thought they might at least have some Linux understanding. I can connect the PlayBook to Ubuntu via wifi, no problem, I can just enter smb://192.168.1.11 (i.e. the PlayBook's IP address) and I can see all the files on there in Nautilus. I had enquired about this with RIM support and they could only tell me how to do it in Windows and Mac on their website, and suggested the Mac way for Linux. I suggested they add that it works for Linux too on their website, which they are considering. But to do much more with the PlayBook, I have to connect it to a PC (or Mac) via the USB cable. There does not seem to be any way to get this to work in Ubuntu, but if anyone knows how, let me know. The USB connection is necessary to do a system backup and for installing .bar files onto the PlayBook (apps converted from Android apk files). I need to do it in Windows. So I used Windows in VirtualBox, connected the PlayBook via USB and Windows could see the PlayBook, but would not install the drivers. I contacted RIM tech support and they said the drivers are on the PlayBook and the Windows PC should automatically install the drivers. But in VirtualBox this is not working. Any ideas how to overcome this problem? I have an old Windows XP disc somewhere. If I can find it, I can install it onto an old PC and try that, but until then the only way I am running Windows is via VirtualBox. Anyone else had any experience with using the BlackBerry PlayBook? David King -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug #1 and onwards....
I have always found the Ubuntu disc utility to be reliable, and checks ot fairly well with a seagate tool I have too. Any other experiences? Well, it's as good as SMART is, which is vague at best. True, a hard drive can fail without throwing a SMART error, but a drive that's SMART erroring goes straight in the bin as far as I'm concerned. The price of drives these days (current problems in Thailand aside) is tiny compared to the grief that a failed drive causes... especially when they aren't being backed up... Which reminds me that I recently found an old receipt for a drive I bought in 1997. It cost 160 (which was worth a lot more 14 yrs ago) and gave me an enormous (at the time) 2.5G. Yes, two and a half gigabytes... approx a third of what's currently in my phone... LOL... A couple of months ago I bought a 2TB drive for 55... I make that 800 times the storage for about a quarter of the cost... that's progress... :) Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mythubuntu: what harware?
I'm seeing virgin media tv ads about the tivo box. Is this stuff that mythubuntu can do? If so what is the hardware any of you would recomend? I understand the Tivo box has some sort of inteligence in it in that it can suggest TV programs and what not. Not to mention the Virgin Tivo box supports HD cable programming :-) But from what I've read about MythTV it also seems very powerful if you spend the time tweaking it. The last time I was reading up about it, if you wanted to do HDTV playback it was recommended that you had an NVidia graphics card (something like a Geforce 8400 or higher or a GeForce 210 or higher) which can offload the HD video decoding to the graphics card so you can have a lower spec machine. I believe if you want just Freeview then an Atom board with an Ion chipset with maybe 2GB Ram and a big hard drive and some USB Freeview sticks would suffice. I guess really to advise what hardware you'd need depends on what you want to do. If you wanted to you could maybe have a powerful backend with a few tuner cards (maybe a couple of DVB-S2 Satellite tuners and some Freeview tuners) for free to air channels and then multiple front ends to play all back on. Personally I am tempted to get one of these... http://www.ebuyer.com/product/253305 It's a low power dual core Athlon II server with 1GB Ram and a 250GB hard drive. It's small and has space for 4 drives and up to 8GB Ram. It also has a £100 cashback offer until the end of this month. Originally I was thinking of getting one to replace my P4 server in the loft with something lower power and quieter but after some thought, if I stick a Geforce 210 in there I can also use it for MythTV as well (although due to the limited internal slots, I'd have to use USB tuners), and finding a USB sound card with SPDIF output which is compatible with Ubuntu seems to be a bit of a challenge. Rob Rob, I think you're getting too hung up big graphics cards and big processors and loads of drives :) I've run Myth on that kind of hardware and while it works, it'll cost you a fortune in just electricity... remember ever watt the machine uses will cost you over £1/year... my old Myth box was 220w according to the meter, costing over £230/year in electric alone... never mind the cost of the machine... While Myth can do the whole client/server thing (and it's all very clever), it's a bit overkill for most people, especially since most TV's have the antenna connections right next to them, it seems to make sense to put a combined frontend/backend box under the TV, just like a Tivo/Sky/Cable box. My new (and by new I mean 15 months old) Myth box is a (now discontinued) bottom of the range (even came with Linpus Linux) Acer Revo 3600 (newer versions are available now). Single core 1.6GHz Atom processor, 1GB RAM, 160GB laptop hard drive, onboard Nvidia ION graphics (with HDMI out), cost £165 new. Add one MCE remote (off Ebay£15) and one Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-TD dual Freeview USB tuner (Amazon £50). It equals a really sweet setup! My original big box setup used KnoppMyth (though to be fair this was four years ago) and took about month (several hours a night) to set everything up with hours of googling, a complete nightmare. When it was finished it worked fine, except that due to all the tweaking to get all that mix of hardware/software to play nice, I was stuck because I was too scared to upgrade for fear of breaking something... For the new box I used Mythbuntu. It took less than 30 mins, most of which was drinking tea waiting for it to install. Everything worked out of the box! The only issue that I had was that sound didn't work over the HDMI lead, a quick google pointed me at the sound app, where I had to activate a setting to do digital sound. Result! About a year later (at the time of the local digital switchover) I had glitch when the old USB tuner stopped working (still not sure why), so I bought the WinTV and it's been absolutely fine since. The MythTV setup lets you record two programmes at once (although within limits it can record up to six at once quiet happily) while watching a recording, it does all the season pass/series link stuff, look out for programmes with favourite actors/directors/etc, it let's you watch the recordings on a laptop elsewhere in the house if the kids are watching TV, has a nice web interface for setting up recordings (can be used over the internet with the right router setting), the EPG data is continuously downloaded over the air - and programmes are automatically rescheduled if needed, it can also stream video from other servers/PCs (with minor fiddling) onto the TV, let's you keep/save TV programmes (pull them over to a laptop and burn to DVD), and being so tiny it attaches (with a homemade wooden bracket) to the back of the LCD TV keeping it all looking nice and tidy! And as a bonus it only uses 24W... saving £200/year in electric
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click
Firstly, the vast majority of teachers don't have the skills of knowledge to be able to teach anything other than office skills - and even then most can't even do that properly! You can say that again! The school I work at has 50+ teachers. Half of then can barely 'drive' MS Office... Secondly, the majority of children don't care about how a computer works (any more than they care how a car works) - they just want to use it. Yes, this is very true. Even my own kids aren't bothered despite the prodding from me. The kids at my school that I've discussed this with can't get there heads around the fact that they could write their own version of Angry Birds if they wanted to... Granted, there are always some who do I hope so, I really do. I got 'into' computers with the ZX81, at around the age of 12. I built it from a kit (with the help of my dad - hey I was 12!) and programmed the living daylights out of it and it's dozen successors, as well as spending a lot of time gaming. Granted there are no build-it-yourself machines available today (though the Arduino and others are pretty close and a damn sight more powerful than the ZX81). But I don't know any kids that program... out of dozens of the friends/relations kids... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Barebones pc.
What sort of power usage do these microserver have? Lee On 10/06/11 10:06, Roger Lancefield wrote: On 10 June 2011 09:30, Dave Hansond...@hansonforensics.co.uk wrote: Morning all, I'm toying with the idea of buying a barebones pc from maplins to run web server on. (potentially more) I would quite like a dual core processor and a gig or so of ram £120, the rest i can beg borrow and steal. It should obviously be compatible with Ubuntu so does anyone have any recommendations as to anywhere else to pick one up? Plus One for Popey's recommendation. I also recently bought an HP Microserver back in December. As he says, small, quiet, and (if the cash-back offers are still available), within your budget. I'm using mine as a domestic file and development server. It's running the desktop version of 10.04 flawlessly. Roger -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GMailfs on Lucid - Any joy?
I'd abandon this project now... The last time I played with a Gmail file system, it was detected at their end and the account was frozen... Or at least play with a disposable account. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle
On 22 March 2011 10:41, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote: Looking at the amazon kindle it looks as if i can use it to open / read normal pdf files such as the one for the ubuntu manual, if this is the case it would be useful. You can, but PDF rendering is less than ideal. You're better off using more 'native' formats on the Kindle than PDF. Alan, Can you define 'less than ideal'? I thinking about getting a Kindle (then seem OK in PC World), but the main reason for getting it would be to read PDF manuals. Is it really that bad? Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 69, Issue 59
On 18 January 2011 11:08, Mark Harrisonm...@yourpropertyexpert.com wrote: Out of interest, why do people think that building a PC without Windows should be inherently cheaper? A simplistic viewpoint based on ignorance of common Microsoft OEM business practice at a guess :) Is it because they correctly factor in the cost of the OEM licence of Windows, but forget to take into account the subsidies and affiliate fees on offer from application software vendors and ISPs for pre-installing 'trial versions' and crippleware? I suspect most people don't even realise that OEMS get a kickback from that kind of stuff. Cheers, Al. True, but I'm pleased to see on the last three HP's I've bought for the work (sadly all staying Windows boxes), that there was NO crapware installed. So perhaps this is coming to an end?? Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lenovo N500 will not load Ubuntu
P.S.: It passed a memory test lasting an hour which I ran from GRUB yesterday morning, before and after which it could not load Ubuntu. So to me that suggests something other than a hardware issue; hence my thoughts about the file directory 'disintegrating' at a software level, as Al warned might happen at some future point after my foray into sudo nautilus several months ago. Sorry to diappoint, but a 1 hour memory test proves nothing. To thoroughly test memory, you've got to do AT LEAST a dozen passes of memtest. I've repeatedly seen RAM work fine on memtest for 7/8/9 passes (taking up to a hour per pass) then fail. Generally if I suspect RAM these days I let it run for 24 hours to make sure it's OK. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-technical events?
I'm hoping as a LUG in Devon we can start to do more of this in the future, I'd even refurbish machines and stick Ubuntu on them if it wasn't for another guy on our local Freecycle list who gets old machines, refurbishes them and sticks Windows XP and Office 2003 on them (I think he's either got a whole load of Office 2003 licenses he wants to give away or he's installing pirate copies of the software, however good his intentions are I'm sure one day he'll come unstuck). I should drop him an email and point this out to him. I've done this myself, and had Are you sure? type replies. When I point out the Office costs £400 odd and MS might get annoyed, they normally stop. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Quick Perl question...
I'm having a bit of an issue with a Perl script on my Ubuntu server at home (can you see what I did there :)... The line in question is this... $solar_info =~ s/\/solar.*/,/; From my tinkerings, this should find the string /solar in the string $solar_info, and then remove it and any number of following characters (the .*) and then replace them with a ,. Except that it doesn't. It hacks out the /solar and replaces it with a , but leaves the rest of the string intact... Much to my annoyance... :| Any clues? Cheers, Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] Quick Perl question...
$solar_info =~ s/\/solar.*/,/; From my tinkerings, this should find the string /solar in the string $solar_info, and then remove it and any number of following characters (the .*) and then replace them with a ,. Except that it doesn't. It hacks out the /solar and replaces it with a , but leaves the rest of the string intact... Much to my annoyance... :| What's the input string? The following code simply prints , for me not ,abcdef as you suggest it would: $test = /solarabcdef; $test =~ s/\/solar.*/,/; print $test; This input solar8,27.31,28.68,28.81,0.00,0.00,0/solar It need to be -- 8,27.31,28.68,28.81,0.00,0.00,0 Another line chops off the solar. The problem is that occasionally there is rubbish on the end of the line, or even another line appended to the end of the first... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu
Cpu11 : 4.5% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 94.2% id, 0.5% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.3% si Now that's just showing off Alan... :) Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill
Sounds like a right shambles. I contacted my local MP who I see on the list didn't vote at all, kinda makes me wonder if there is any point in MP's if they don't listen to the constituents. I also contacted my MP who said he and every other Liberal MP would be voting against it. It wouldn't have made a difference but I still can't believe he didn't vote and that so few voted against it. Ashley Perhaps you ought to contact him again and ask why he didn't vote, and point out to him that this is perhaps why the public currently have such a low regard for MPs... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Make USB serial ports stick...
My google-fu is weak today... My server is having issues, it's been rebooted after some software issues (my bad), the problem now is that it has a load of USB-to-serial adapters which have all changed their names (/dev/ttyUSBx). This is a problem as there are four of them and they all have different bits of kit hanging off them, and the software that uses them is getting very confused. So my question is, how can I make each USB-to-serial adapter 'stick' to its /dev/ttyUSBx id? Cheers, Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] heads up Chinese XP Ubuntu
alan c wrote: It may be of interest to know that an OS based on Ubuntu 9.10 has been produced in Chinese. Relax with the English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=yprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=1eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ylmf.org%2Fsl=zh-CNtl=en enjoy What a classic... :) 5. Integrated aMule, convenient electric donkey download -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sending junk mail, have I got a virus?
Were the addresses from your Yahoo address book? If so, that's definitely the attack point. You should be OK now, if you've picked a strong password. I've had this with a couple of friends who use Yahoo. They had simple passwords, so it looks like the bad guys are brute force attacking the accounts. Odd that Yahoo don't lock the accounts after a few attempts. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on PS3?
I use an acer aspire revo 3600 for this. 1.6GHz Atom + nVidia ION GPU. Plays HD stuff fine. Cheers, Al. Al, What sort of wattage does the Revo pull when it's idling? I'm thinking about using one as server to replace my current Viglen, which is good from an electricity point of view but it's a bit underpowered... Cheers, Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] vodafone- free internet
I don't think it's wifi access they are offering, it mobile data (2G/3G). As the article says, most people who use the mobile web (i.e. Smartphone users) will already have an unlimited package. I know I do with my HTC Magic on Vodafone. 5. All data usage is subject to fair use limit of 25MB a day. I was just going to say that... Unlimited package = 25MB a day... An odd figure for unlimited I've always thought! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using a 3G modem as a fallback
The new house will be on a relatively new-build estate - is it likely that the ADSL connection will be so reliable as to be not worth having a fallback at all? LoL - That's what a mate of mine said a couple of years ago when he moved to a new estate in Milton Keynes... Nice shiney house, but his ADSL connection is now a breathtaking 450 *K* Bits/sec... Yes, that's correct - less than 1/2 MBit... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken
I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad that this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is sorted before Thursday. Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both machines I tested it on. :-( On the other hand, I've installed Karmic on one laptop, a Dell Latitude D351, a couple of years old I think. It installed without any issues, found the wireless card, had a little moan about lack of open source drivers and installed a closed source one. Everything works, 64bit too. The only thing I had to do manually was download 64bit Flash and unzip it to the right directory. Superb. My only gripe, is that the top toolbar icons look a bit, err, dated... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!
it may be worth clicking on feedback adn commenting, That page got right up my nose -- Firstly, computer program isn't spelt programme, that would be a television programme. Secondly, given the number of Windows users who use Open Office, Firefox and Thunderbird, a new user of Ubuntu won't necessarily have to learn new programs. Thirdly, 99% of Ubuntu users aren't interested in open source programming, they just want an Operating System that works and doesn't get riddled with malware/viruses/trojans on a daily basis, so this point would seem at odds with reality. Given Dells position in the market place and it's support of Ubuntu, the contents of this page appear to be somewhat skewed in Microsofts direction. I would appreciate it corrected at your earliest convenience. - -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Release schedule
Anybody else fear that with the pace of change in Linux a 6-month release schedule is becoming rather a challenge? I realise it's neat and tidy to do it, but wonder whether it is rather ambitious. Yup. After hassle with 8.10 upgrade, I've reverted back to 8.04 and sworn to only use LTS releases. And to only migrate to new LTS releases three months after their official launch date. The LTS releases are essentially Ubuntu's stable branch. In any case, seriously, who has time to upgrade all of their PCs every 6 months? I've got 5 Ubuntu PCs, a wife, three kids and a full time job. Sadly, I'm with you there Andrew, especially after the catastrophic upgrade on my own Dell Vostro from Intrepid to Jaunty. Mashed upgrade, and the fresh install wasn't too hot either... That said, one of my kids PC's died yesterday (hardware I think) so that's getting taste of Karmic and depending on the results going back to Hardy (8.04.3!)... Going back to original post, I don't think the release cycle is too ambitious, I think it's the amount of stuff in each release that's too ambitious... Looking though the forums and Launchpad, there seems to an amazing amount of stuff that gets broken and re-broken on each release. Being a ex-developer I understand why this happens, but from an end user perspective, it looks pretty bad. I.e. They have a perfectly working machine. Out comes the latest version of their favourite OS (which is better/faster/prettier) but now several things don't work any more. I appreciate they get fixed and pretty rapidly, but I'm finding it pretty difficult to justify new upgrades to people I've converted to Ubuntu for fear that something will break and I'll have to spend a load of (unpaid) time fixing it... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 7 in a Virtual Machine?
Anyone done this? If so, any thoughts or caveats or observations? Yes, a couple of times with various betas under VirtualBox... It runs fine, and has nice wallpaper... :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short
Sean Miller wrote: 3GB of RAM shouldn't be necessary... software these days are so bloated. Kids these days wouldn't believe what our galiant heros managed to extract out of 48k back in the good old days... not to mention the last generation of games on the 1k ZX81. Sean Yes, I can remember playing chess (against the computer!) on a 1K ZX81... ...well I say 1K, think the video used some memory, so the program was less then 700 bytes and it still played a good game of chess... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short
People do want a work out of the box machine, and Ubuntu isnt totally out of the box, it does need other bits and pieces added, and unless you know that, it doesnt work how most people are used to having a machine work. Unless you spend a lot of time reading through the pages and pages of the Ubuntu wiki, you wouldnt know that there are extra repositories that you need, to get certain things that you have already installed on a Windows machine. I went for months before I got shown about medibuntu. The forum helps in some respects but you get told on there, read the wiki, or plough through searches on the forum, and then come back and ask, if you cant get it to work. I wanted to try get connected apart from my network at home through wireless, you cannot do that without knowing how to use the terminal, dongles from any of the main mobile carriers, wont work, just by plugging it in, so no wireless outside of the house. I had to get told about Bluetooth and Joiku spot, but Joiku spot wouldnt work with my 8.04 version, but it does now. Each upgrade, could essentially cause the computer not to work. I went from partitioning on 8.04 working to upgrading to 8.10, and not working. My only visit to the London Lug and two people working on the machine couldnt get it to work, froze the minute it got to the log in screen, uninstalled the installed from a different cd, not a chance, then 9.10 came along, and it works again, but without a lot of the desktop extras. Its the graphics card its not good enough. I have to thank Michael Fletcher for spending quite a lot of time on the phone and pc to pc working with it to get it to work. Same with adding Ubuntu onto my netbook, it came with Linux lite, that took a while, and a lot of work to get it how it is now. Thanks to Michael again. There is something to Ubuntu not being a contender like Windows and Mac, so many people take their Linux machines back, because they cant get it to connect to their internet connection, and that is before you even start with everything else. When I got my little netbook from the shop, they warned me, you do realise it most likely wont work, keep the receipt. This particular shop no longer stocks this netbook with Linux, because they had so many bought back. I see what you're saying, but to balance the viewpoint, many people (esp. when talking about Linux) seem to gloss over a lot of Windows failings. Windows just works out of the box. Well kind of, once you've installed an office suite, and some antivirus, antimalware, a codec pack in case you're not using MS approved codecs, a pile of drivers (for your printer, scanner, 3G dongle, graphics tablet), a better browser and mail client. Then (like my sister last week) you spend £30 on a game (Sims 3) and it doesn't run (keeps crashing). The handbooks says update your drivers, but as Sims 3 didn't come with a driver CD (like the printer/scanner/graphics table) you're lost and call your bro. He digs out the right page on the HP website, writes large email detailing what to do. This doesn't work, Sims 3 still crashes. This time the unpaid tech support gets the drivers direct from Intel, this doesn't work either as the laptop is whining that the existing drivers have been 'specially modified by the manufacturer to improve performance on this computer' and won't let the Intel drivers install. Another large email detailing uninstalling the drivers, rebooting, installing the Intel drivers, etc. This fixes the issue, but leaves the screen set to a whacky resolution, another email later, the Sims finally works. I'd like to say this kind of thing is uncommon, but if you're 'unpaid tech support' you see an awful lot of it, if you're paid tech support, you'll see this kind of thing daily. So - 'works out of the box' I wouldn't exactly say it does. I've been using Windows professionally since V2.0 demo came out... and it hasn't exactly been bed of roses... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Fsck for bad blocks?
I'm having an issue with my new Viglen mini PC which I've just set up as my latest home server. I've been copying stuff to it over the lan, but it was failing, so I did an fsck -c to check for bad blocks. The output is below... l...@mserver:~$ fsck -f -c /dev/sda1 fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): done603 Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity Pass 4: Checking reference counts Pass 5: Checking group summary information /dev/sda1: * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED * /dev/sda1: 11/1311552 files (0.0% non-contiguous), 73973/2622603 blocks l...@mserver:~$ The question is - were there any bad blocks? The filesystem was modified and the number 603 looks ominous, but it doesn't say any bad blocks were found... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
Colin Murphy wrote: On Tuesday 07 July 2009 23:10:51 LeeGroups wrote: d. I think I will have to spend a little more and get a bigger battery, very tempted to go for http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY26TMG1-BK That's expensive, same thing on ebay for less than £9... Is it? The Seidio battery has rave reviews and I've seen much criticism of cheaper offerings. The 2300 mAh batteries don't seem to have the oomph that their specs would suggest. Would you 'trust' a cheap 2850 mAh battery in your phone. The Seidio battery is expensive, and with shipping, a third more so again, but I do think it would complete my G1 nicely. A third more? How did you calculate that? The Seidio battery plus shipping is $80, or about £45. The one off ebay is £9 delivered. I see your point about cheap batteries, but a good friend of mine has been running an ebay special for two months and it's been fine. Run time has easily doubled... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Just when we thought all the mainsteam Linux boxes had gone...
Misco part number 156002 arrives... http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=353088 Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
it's a piece of cake, if a little scary in places... Let's you use newer versions of Android month before they are generally available. I was running the JF version which include most of the cupcake updates back in Feb, with all the multi-touch and auto-rotation stuff all working! Have you been tempted to go one stage further and install something other than Android? If you have, what advantages are there? No, not yet. I need something that's stable, I do actually use it as phone! I can't see any advantages of other builds, apart from a) because you can (though I have to admit that's a pretty strong reason in my book) and b) they look very pretty... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
But how much did you pay for the G1? £180 via an Ebay auction, plus another £10 to get it unlocked. I think I will have to spend a little more and get a bigger battery, very tempted to go for http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY26TMG1-BK That's expensive, same thing on ebay for less than £9... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
Colin Murphy wrote: On Thursday 02 July 2009 21:32:35 Michael G Fletcher wrote: Just ran beebplayer on my HTC-Magic and the live radio worked :-) Yay An update arrived and live radio is working for me too now. I wonder if the 'get_iplayer' scripts can be made to work under Android - that would be the best way to get to the archived stuff. Does Android support Flash yet? I think the video needs this. Not too much a problem for me as I'd be quite happy with just the audio. hmmm, at the moment I just plug in the USB cable and mount the SD card. If you want to access the root file system i think you need to root the phone... I am very tempted to take the time to root my G1, maybe even run Debian arm, unless there is a Ubuntu equivalent, he says, desperately trying to claw the thread back on topic. Root it, it's a piece of cake, if a little scary in places... Let's you use newer versions of Android month before they are generally available. I was running the JF version which include most of the cupcake updates back in Feb, with all the multi-touch and auto-rotation stuff all working! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
Colin Murphy wrote: On Thursday 02 July 2009 20:59:43 Colin Murphy wrote: On Thursday 02 July 2009 20:00:41 Ronnie Tucker wrote: What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8) Where did you go to get the unlock code? It cost me £20 to get mine unlocked in the mobile phone booth in the High Street. Hmm, I wonder. 3 seem to do a 'Sim Zero' sim only one month contract for, err, £0.00 / pm. If I can buy the £5 internet bolt on then I should be able to get my 1Gb for just £5/pm. Beats T-Mobile's 1Gb for £20.00. My assumption was correct, I am now a proud 'Sim Zero' user paying just £5 for the 1Gb internet usage. I don't get any call time, nor do I get any texts - another bolt on is available to add texts, but not voice. I can always upgrade my package to Sim 10 to get 100 minutes call time. If I need more than 1Gb, I just buy another bolt-on. This was an assumption too far, it looks like only one bolt-on can be applied a month. But how much did you pay for the G1? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
Ronnie Tucker wrote: LeeGroups wrote: Colin Murphy wrote: On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote: Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed. Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much. Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have PAC code in hand and consider myself between contracts. Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim only) and the best I can find is 1Gb. I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do seem the best. I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for voice that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option. When I mentioned this type of usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed. I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and move to internet radio streaming instead. Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the bleeding edge for this? Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was meant to go to Javad directly. Yes, the G1 has it's own tariff on T-Mobile, it's due to the G1 chatting to Google 24/7. You can't get the tariff without buying a G1. I've had mine six months and used a lot of bandwidth, can't say how much exactly but a lot... No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream music, it's brilliant, as long as you've remembered to charge the battery! The cheapest tariff they do is £25/month, 200 txts/200mins (though I think I got a special with 400 txts), and I paid £40 (I think) for the phone. I don't you'll beat it, on sim only deal, and having to pay for the G1. Lee What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8) then stick a 3 SIM in it. As long as the 3 SIM is activated and using data then it'll work dandy. They have a £5/mth bolt-on with unlimited data, you just use £5 from your available balance (if over £5) to buy the bolt-on. I hardly use mine for calls (ironic for a mobile phone) so I put about £10 in it every few months. :D The G1 is easily the best phone I've ever had and I wouldn't part with it. But how much did you pay for the G1 can I ask? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera
Colin Murphy wrote: On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote: Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed. Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much. Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have PAC code in hand and consider myself between contracts. Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim only) and the best I can find is 1Gb. I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do seem the best. I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for voice that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option. When I mentioned this type of usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed. I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and move to internet radio streaming instead. Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the bleeding edge for this? Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was meant to go to Javad directly. Yes, the G1 has it's own tariff on T-Mobile, it's due to the G1 chatting to Google 24/7. You can't get the tariff without buying a G1. I've had mine six months and used a lot of bandwidth, can't say how much exactly but a lot... No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream music, it's brilliant, as long as you've remembered to charge the battery! The cheapest tariff they do is £25/month, 200 txts/200mins (though I think I got a special with 400 txts), and I paid £40 (I think) for the phone. I don't you'll beat it, on sim only deal, and having to pay for the G1. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....
412 sites on a shared server is pushing it a bit. Really? Depends on the server! Absolutely, I know of firms that run upwards of a 1000 websites on a single server. Admittedly, they are small, low traffic sites and they are carefully monitored so if traffic starts building the sites are moved to less congested servers, but this kind of thing will happen when people pay peanuts for hosting... As the old saying goes, you get what you pay for. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] pre installed ubuntu laptops - now MS refunds...
Dell will refund the cost of Windows without you having to send anything off. But I guess the OP was looking for an Ubuntu pre-installed machine in order to send a message to the manufacture showing that there is a demand for such a thing. Cheers, Andrew Let's be clear here, Dell will only refund your MS license fee if you bought a PC/laptop for home, rather than business. I had this problem, as have a few other people. If you're buying a Toshiba, forget it. The ones I bought last week all came with a dirty great sticker sealing the box stating that the computer/software enclosed come as a complete unit and won't be spilt. If you don't like it tough. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] pre installed ubuntu laptops - now MS refunds...
Dell will refund the cost of Windows without you having to send anything off. But I guess the OP was looking for an Ubuntu pre-installed machine in order to send a message to the manufacture showing that there is a demand for such a thing. Cheers, Andrew Let's be clear here, Dell will only refund your MS license fee if you bought a PC/laptop for home, rather than business. I had this problem, as have a few other people. If you're buying a Toshiba, forget it. The ones I bought last week all came with a dirty great sticker sealing the box stating that the computer/software enclosed come as a complete unit and won't be spilt. If you don't like it tough. Lee hmm, maybe I should start collecting photos of such anti-competitive practices in a hall of shame on the nakedcomputers.org site. I don't suppose you have the box still do you? Still, have the box, yes. But I was so angry at the time, I got my phone out and took a photo... I've emailed it to you. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] pre installed ubuntu laptops - now MS refunds...
wow. That is a very clear notice. Quality Seal Importants Notice: TOSHIBA Corporation (TOSHIBA) and/or its subsidiaries currently sell personal computers with pre-installed Microsoft operating system as computing solution. Please note, notwithstanding anything to the contrary in the documentation accompanying your computer, TOSHIBA and/or its subsidiaries do not accept the return of component parts or bundled software, which have been removed from the PC System. Pro-rata refunds on individual components or bundled software, including the operating system, will not be granted. I think that is going on the front page of naked computers shortly. I wonder who was pulling the strings to get that put on there... I doubt there is a hidden MS agenda there, probably just Toshiba getting fed up of doing the paperwork for these 'freaks' that don't want MS software. Still, on the plus side, to go to that level of effort, they must be having a substantial number of returns... :) Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sony Walkman Enticing Again?
For me, at least, if the following report is true: http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/sony-building-android-based-walkman-and-pnd-for-2010-launch/ Sony could well become sexy again. A mainstream PMP that easily plays mp3 and ogg? Sign me up! (admittedly, I don't know if ogg support is standard in Android but at least the potential to easily install it should be there) Regards Bruce If it can be rooted, I'm interested... :) Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] dial up connection?
Of course too there is the issue that the longer the cable from the modem to the phone socket you're more likely to loose some speed due to interference. LoL! How much interference do you think there has been induced in the MILES of cable between your 'local' telephone exchange and your home? :) BT recommend short cables because some people insist on using cheap, poor quality cable around their homes and not terminating it correctly. If you use decent stuff, it won't be a problem... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
After all, better to have people use Ubuntu because they like it, rather than because they hate Windows. Aww... can't I use Ubuntu because I like it *and* I hate Windows? :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. PlusNet *do* throttle torrent traffic, it's in their TC's check here - http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml#unlimitedspeeds It varies depending on the time of day, but at least they are totally open about it. Unlike a lot of other ISPs Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. PlusNet *do* throttle torrent traffic, it's in their TC's check here - http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml#unlimitedspeeds It varies depending on the time of day, but at least they are totally open about it. Unlike a lot of other ISPsOk, thanks for the link. Looks like the worst time to download is 6 to 10 PM, which is probably when I'm downloading via BitTorrent most. I wonder how many ISP's acknowledge USENET still exists, let alone throttle it. Never seen it mentioned in others TCs, but then it's high volume use was always binary groups, and they've pretty much died out from via ISPs, so you have to pay subs to someone like Giganews otherwise they don't work... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Squid proxy box with serious IPv6 DNS problem...
OK, well I am pretty much out of ideas. You could try plugging it into a hub (not a switch, just a cheap nasty hub) and using another computer on the hub running wireshark to figure out at the packet level what sort of DNS queries it is doing. It may come to that yet... but in the mean time... Further tinkering shows that exporting the http_proxy setting for the upstream proxy server export http_proxy=194.66.xxx.yyy:8080 makes WGET work without the -4 option... but it has no effect on general DNS resolution.. Trying out dig with its -4 option still doesn't work... - ad...@proxy:~$ dig sky.com -4 ; DiG 9.4.2 sky.com -4 ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 42955 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;sky.com. IN A ;; Query time: 1015 msec ;; SERVER: 10.82.xxx.yyy#53(10.82.xxx.yyy) ;; WHEN: Sun Mar 29 21:30:44 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 25 -- Interestingly, the DNS server being used is the internal Windows DNS server, which is listed third in the resolv.conf after the two entries for OpenDNS's server, so I'm not sure what's going on there... I can ping the OpenDNS servers by their IP addresses and that works fine... I think I'm starting to get a headache Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Squid proxy box with serious IPv6 DNS problem...
Chaps... Over the last couple of days I've been trying to build a proxy box for a load of Windows PCs, using Squid on Ubuntu server 8.04. I've had a few problems with it due to the wild/wacky filtered internet connection we have there, but now I've hit a massive brick wall... Using an upstream proxy config Apt can get out to the internet fine, download and update the OS. However, Squid can't resolve any DNS loopups... it just fails a few minutes after loading. Doing a wget of a known file like the Google index page also fails with a unresolved DNS error. However, (after much much much reading) using the -4 option of wget, to force it to use IPv4, it works fine, resolves the Google address and downloads the index page and saves it. I've blacklisted the IPv6 service, but wget (and Squid) still doesn't work without the -4 option, so I guess bits of IPv6 are still hiding there somewhere My question is - How do I fix this bloomin' thing? I've been googling for hours with only the -4 option to show for it... and I really need to get this this working for Friday afternoon... Otherwise bad Windows things may happen... Cheers, Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Squid proxy box with serious IPv6 DNS problem...
Alan, I'm actually using OpenDNS's servers (after using the ISP's), what I really don't understand is how Apt is working perfectly, but Squid and Wget don't... I saw that post before, it's what I used to supposedly turn off IPv6. I can't run FF on the server, no gui installed... Lee I think from the description the squid thing is actually a red herring. (to mix a fishy metaphore). It sounds like your proxy server is not reliably resolving DNS when using IPV6. You will probably see this problem if you run firefox on the server. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/24828 not sure how you turned off IPV6, one way is to edit / /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and edit it to have this line: /alias net-pf-10 off ipv6 a better solution would be to fix the actual problem, one way might be to point your proxy at openDNS which works fine with v6. I suspect the DHCP server is pointing your box at a bad router for DNS queries. Alan. LeeGroups wrote: Chaps... Over the last couple of days I've been trying to build a proxy box for a load of Windows PCs, using Squid on Ubuntu server 8.04. I've had a few problems with it due to the wild/wacky filtered internet connection we have there, but now I've hit a massive brick wall... Using an upstream proxy config Apt can get out to the internet fine, download and update the OS. However, Squid can't resolve any DNS loopups... it just fails a few minutes after loading. Doing a wget of a known file like the Google index page also fails with a unresolved DNS error. However, (after much much much reading) using the -4 option of wget, to force it to use IPv4, it works fine, resolves the Google address and downloads the index page and saves it. I've blacklisted the IPv6 service, but wget (and Squid) still doesn't work without the -4 option, so I guess bits of IPv6 are still hiding there somewhere My question is - How do I fix this bloomin' thing? I've been googling for hours with only the -4 option to show for it... and I really need to get this this working for Friday afternoon... Otherwise bad Windows things may happen... Cheers, Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Router reccomendations
As an addendum, I've solved some of the problems with the Safecom Swart2: many parts (not all) the admin interface requires internet explorer! There are still many other things wrong with it that ie doesn't 'fix', so steer clear of safecom. If you have a SWART2, I can recommend the RouterTech.Org website. The took the open source code to the TI chipset used in the router and re-wrote it (several times), the end result is much more stable and fully feature router... that bringing it back on tpoic runs Linux... :) Just read the instructions first, and have all the recovery tools downloaded - just in case... That said I've been through several versions and not had any trouble... Good piece of kit... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hooking up a machine running Ubuntu to a Mark 1, BT HomeHub
sudo dmesg grep eth0 gives: usage: dmesg [-c][-n level][-s bufsize] I thin that should be - sudo dmesg | grep eth0 i.e. with the extra | character... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hooking up a machine running Ubuntu to a Mark 1, BT HomeHub
Rowan, Oh, it's definitely there somewhere, just that Sony didn't print it. Try pressing all of the non-letter keys, with and with the shift key... Lee There is no | key on the Linux machine (there is one on this Sony Windows machine) LeeGroups wrote: sudo dmesg grep eth0 gives: usage: dmesg [-c][-n level][-s bufsize] I thin that should be - sudo dmesg | grep eth0 i.e. with the extra | character... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help get Windows out of schools
Aparently primnary schools are forced to use MS office so the children are ready for what is used in Secondary schools which is I guess a fair argument i guess. And i guess secondaries feel obliged to use MS office as they see it as industry standard. There used to be a saying in the computer industry which was Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM. I think it's shifted to Microsoft. Speaking from experience, most school IT department heads don't know that much about IT. They perceive it as a 'safe' option to go with MS, every if it costs a fortune, because everyone else uses it. It's a classic circular argument... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Firefox Officeanados
E Use a local file server, like in the Advanced settings tab, last box, Use Own Server check box Lee Gents Thanks for the pointers - Foxmark would be the ideal if it could be persuaded to use either the local HD, or the local file server I will have. But I think for the moment I'll go with the safer answer of not available! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Michael G Fletcher Sent: 31 January 2009 15:41 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Firefox Officeanados On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:10 AM, mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk wrote: Stuart wrote: snip ...the Foxmarks add-on for Firefox lets you synchronize your bookmarks... They are all stored on a central server. The privacy issues with this are mentioned in the thread. Here's Eben Moglen on this general area: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cLQiTzs8PQ4 Mac There is also delicious.com - which means you could access your bookmarks on completely different machines as well. (although i'm not sure how good their privacy controls are) _ Michael Fletcher Visit my website here - http://www.mgfletcher.com/blog Interested in Linux? Then visit - http://www.ilovemylinux.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Firefox Officeanados
E Use a local file server, like in the Advanced settings tab, last box, Use Own Server check box Sorry for being stupid, but where exactly is this? I've looked in Firefox Edit/Preferences/Advanced, where there are four tabs: General; Network; Update; Encryption. I can't see a Use Own Server check box in any of them. Could you give idiot-proof directions?! Wrong menu :) Tools / Foxmarks / Foxmarks settings / Advanced / Server Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Im buying a new phone!! How compatible are android and Ubuntu?
Hi, Its that time of the year again where i get a new phone. Im thinking of going with the andorid. How compatible are the two systems, since they are both open source? If you get a T-Mobile gphone, be prepared to be disappointed. The Bluetooth API doesn't work which makes things more difficult than they should be; the phone can be mounted via usb, but integrating the data isn't the simplest thing. Frankly, if I was getting a new phone, I'd go the apple route. Android/ t-mobile has been a real letdown. On the other hand, people talk about how wonderful the iPhone is, but it's pretty damn expensive, and how well does it sync to Ubuntu? I understand that it only works with iTunes and not with any open source music managers. Is this correct? And it doesn't do cut 'n' paste? Come on Apple it's been around since th 80's... As to the G1, I've had one for a month and think it's bloomin' marverlous, it's a breath of fresh air after a couple of WinMobile phones (which weren't too bad with hindsight) and a few top end Nokias, which have been a real disappointment in many areas. Symbian has gone way down in my opinion... The G1 has tonnes of great apps easily downloadable via Android Market (I mean really - a digital spirit level... how cool is that?), over-the-air syncing to google contacts, google calender, google mail. The K9 email app is great for non-google email accounts, and a really nice REAL keyboard, none of this touch screen typing c...@p. As for syncing the contacts, it should be pretty simple to write a script that logs into your google account, exports the contacts and then imports it to Thunderbird/Evolution. Yes, it's true Bluetooth is a disappointment, it was cut to make the launch date, and my biggest annoyance bluetooth tethering to my laptop doesn't work (though there is USB based http-proxy availble), but both are being worked on. The battery life has also been critised, but really if you have wi-fi, bluetooth, GPS, cell location, and 3G connectivity all turned on, and for the first week or two you're constantly playing with the thing, it's a wonder the battery lasts the time it does. There is very usefull Battery Manager app, that extends battery life no end. With things turned down/off, you can get 4-5 days out of a full charge, but as it charges from a mini USB plug, it's pretty easy to keep it charged. The Cupcake release mentioned in another email is a new version of the Android OS, due out very soon, which should have these things and a whole host of new functionality. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sad but true? From the Register
why do we see things like company A recommends windows XP, Windows Vista Honestly? Because MS has a HUGE marketing budget, and they give kickbacks to others promoting their product. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Now consoles - was - Window border corruption other problems with Compiz
Not a chance. Too expensive and I'm not interested in HDTV or Bluray. Nice toy but it does nothing I want. Instead I just bought a 2nd hand PS2, cheaply, precisely *because* it Just Works and needs no installation, setup, fiddling, drivers, configuration or anything else. You should have got an Xbox1... plays great games and you can really 'fiddle' with the things... Mine has run Debian, been a MythTV frontend, but now is mostly an XBMC media center... Long live Open Source and Open Hardware :) Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
Ian, I doubt you'll be able to buy a new motherboard for an 8 year old CPU, your only option would be Ebay. That said there are very few twin socket motherboards around, so that will narrow your choice quite severely. On top of that, how do you know it's the motherboard? Odd behavior could come from the CPU or RAM too... All things being equal, you would be better off buying a bundle kit, from Ebuyer/Scan/Maplin/Aria which has a matching motherboard/CPU/RAM/HSF and be done with it. You may also need a new PSU (£10?) or at least an adapter cable, but starting from £99 it'll save a whole lot of time and hassle Lee Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi all Somewhat OT, but I'm hoping someone here can help. My Desktop MB is on the way out, intermittent strange behaviour, and it being some 8 years old and well used, I'm not really that surprised. Now, as I hate wasting money I thought I'd get myself a new MB that would handle the current CPU, AND 1.6 GHz, and memory, but thought about going for a dual socket CPU board instead, and buy another CPU to boost performance. I realise that the make and clock speed of the CPU has to be the same, but does it have to be from the same family of CPU's? The PSU, at 350w, should be more than capable as the only other large power draw, the graphics system, is, by today's standards, fairly medioca, but it suits. I should add that I'm not going to attempt this upgrade, but am going to let the local computer shop that originally built it, do it, but I wanted to do some research first so that I didn't get blinded by the sales pitch, or tech talk. Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New series of 'The IT Crowd'
Didn't see any Ubuntu posters :( Philip McGaw wrote: It could be better Sent from my iPod On 21 Nov 2008, at 22:15, Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope second half of today's episode is better than the first... the comedy seems rather tired :-( Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem installing v8.04 from an imperfet 6.06 setup. Help required
The following problems were found on your system: E: Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2) W: Signature verification failed for:/media/cdrecorder/dists/hardy/Release.gpg I don't know what Signature means, here, ( I have no disc W: ) The W: is the error message, not a W drive - Linux doesn't assign drives letters like windows does. Err, for completeness the E: is the error message, the W: is warning message... The pgp is Pretty Good Privacy, it's a way of encrypting stuff, to make sure you get a copy that hasn't been tampered with by a third party, in this case something to do with the distro realease list... Have you run the Check this CD option on the CD? Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem installing v8.04 from an imperfect 6.06 setup. Help required
Louis, If it's booting from the CD, you should see a pretty Ubuntu logo and a small menu, something like - Install/try Ubuntu, test this CD, test the memory in this machine, etc. If you're not seeing this then, its not booting from the CD. Either the CD is not right or the BIOS options aren't set right. Some BIOS's have a select boot device option during the boot sequence, try F12 or F2, then pick the CD drive. If you know someone else with a PC, even if it's a Windows box, they could try the CD for you (it won't do anything to their box). If it works it's your machines problem, if not its the CD at fault, in which case they may be able to download and burn you a fresh copy? Hope that helps, Lee [ Added later: I've just thought: I suppose ONE WAY OF ADDRESSING THIS is to ask the question: How would I install Ubuntu from the CD if the machine had nothing at all on it? (ie: no earlier version of Unbuntu; no MS Windows; not even DOS) but just a new empty 80GB HD (unfortunately formatted as MS NTFS as it happens) the motherboard's BIOS of course. If that can be done, then I am home and dry! and all the other problems are by-passed and superfluous. Should the disc I've got (the .iso of v8.04 fresh from the website) self boot on an empty system like that ?? If so then I know I've definitely got a hardware problem. I guess that question should have a simple yes/no answer. If yes, then apologies to all for bothering you. Lou. ] Hello Lee, Have you run the Check this CD option on the CD? No I haven't. I've had a good look today for the Check this CD button or menu option. I would be grateful if you would tell be how to do it. (It is a fresh download by the way.) My only need at present is to install v8.04 on a new 80GB HD (a replacement for one that went down some months ago with v8.04 on it). One trouble I've has is that I can't even open a filer window of that HD with Nautilus. (The BIOS sees it alright during bootup and displays its name, etc.) Also Nautilus can display the CD contents alright, but I don't know how to get it going. Once I've done that, and the v8.04 has proved itself to be OK, I will delete the current 6.06 Dapper setup. The only reason for fixing it, is if first fixing it is needed as the only way of installing the v8.04 from the CD. I've tried booting the machine with the CD already in the drive. No joy with that. (and yes the CD is in the boot options sequence, right after the floppy and before the HD). No joy with that. regards, Lou PS. Err, for completeness the E: is the error message, the W: is warning message... Thanks. Aha! I thought perhaps E meant hde. Its high time I got down to reading the techie stuff. So far, I've related to Ubuntu as a mere GUI user. That I have managed to do that for about 2 yrs, says a big plus for Ubuntu! The pgp is Pretty Good Privacy, it's a way of encrypting stuff, I don't need to encrypt anything because there is nothing confidential on my computer, and I am the only user. If it's causing trouble, is it possible to remove it? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Intrepid Release Parties]
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Ellis Corbie Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just saw this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseParties#Europe Can i safely assume we will be at Waxy O'Connors and not De Hems then? --Michael I was just wondering that myself. Then it occured that they are only a couple of streets apart, so I was planning to attend both :) Though it would be nice to know which one is the 'official' venue... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox3 on network
LeeGroups wrote: Why not just use FoxMarks (an FF plugin that stores bookmarks), that way you have a backup too.. I'm not keen on data-mining by bailees. (See FoxMarks privacy policy.) Mac Bailees? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox3 on network
I've been experimenting with a single 8.04 machine running FF3. Bookmarks work properly if the profile is on the machine itself. When I move the profile to the network drive, FF3 appears to run OK, but I cannot add, delete or organise bookmarks - which rather defeats the whole object! Why not just use FoxMarks (an FF plugin that stores bookmarks), that way you have a backup too.. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop
snip My girlfriend bought a Samsung laptop in around 2003. Nothing went wrong in the first year, then in years 2 3 a problem with the screen connector kept recurring, the onboard power supply socket needed replacing, and the *external power supply connector needed replacing* twice. *None of these were through abuse, more design flaws* (or revenue generating features). snip Err, I'll have to disagree on that one, power connectors are designed to connect power to a laptop. NOT to withstand being dragged around the living room/bedroom/etc or be passed from person to person. There will always be a slight play in the connector and a year of being 'wiggled' with destroy either the plug/socket or the sockets mounting to the motherboard/powerboard. Stick the laptop on a desk when it's being charged and the connector will outlast the rest of the machine. Despite being called 'laptops' this is the last place you should be using them... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome
What is really beginning to worry me is that there is too much choice of applications in the Open Source world. Instead of working to make what we have better and bite into bug #1 and give users a base set of applications they can get comfortable with and trust, we are going to leave maybe switchers to Linux with the mass confusion of which application is best and sticking with Windows. Yes, we seem to be slipping back into the bad old days... I remember one of my first Linux installs, a paid for box set of an early Suse release. 5 different word processors, 6 calculators, 4 browsers, 7 text editors, etc, etc... It was all stupidly confusing... It was one of the first things that struck me about Breezy... Oh look - only one browser, only one word processor, only one editor, only one etc etc... How very sensible... Now, Firefox, Epiphany, Midori, Amaya, Dillo, Galeon, SeaMonkey and even Links/Lynx and W3M... And now Chrome... not to mention all the backend stuff like webkit/gecko/java/javascript/SWF/etc/etc... Makes you wonder how much could be achieved in just the browser arena, if all that effort all pulled in the same direction Argh... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advanced vi/vim command - commenting out a large section
But, what I'd love, is a way I can type say 11 command and get it to turn 11 lines into a comment. Does anyone know of a nice way to do that in vim? CTRL-v (number), DOWN ARROW, SHIFT-i, #, ESC, DOWN ARROW works for me... And people wonder why VIM has a bad reputation LOL... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables
Her current setup is an old desktop connected via an USB ADSL modem to the internet - it doesn't have a working ethernet card and she doesn't want to put one in as it's too fragile - the machine not her I hasten to add. And as we'll both need to be on the internet at the same time, networking is called for. Could you get a USB wireless adaptor and wireless ADSL router, both of which are cheap to get hold of anyway, that her PC doesn't need to be opened up, all it needs is some drivers installing. Otherwise, an ADSL router and USB to Ethernet adaptor would probably do the job. Something like this... http://www.ebuyer.com/product/52599 Assuming she's running Windows 98 or higher, if she wants to keep the USB modem, adding a USB to Ethernet adaptor will probably allow you to use Internet Connection Sharing so that you can connect your machine to her PC (using a crossover cable or CAT5 switch/hub) and then her PC will act as a gateway to the internet. Probably cheaper si just a Plexus adsl router from ebuyer.com. It has a USB socket on the back, which plugs into a PC usb socket creating a wired usb ethernet connection. Much less hassle and faster on older PCs Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Privacy
I've been using Scoogle.org for a while now... they really have a paranoid streak... no data collection, log deletion etc.. have a look at their TC's... :) I just went to www.scoogle.com, and there is a search box there, but the site and the searches it returns seem buried under mounds of commercial and advertising links. The page I saw had no information at all about the site itself, and certainly no TCs. Am I looking at the right site? Mac Scroogle.ORG not scroogle.com :) The .com appears to be someone hoping to pick up free advertising from the .org... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Privacy
Thanks, guys, for the info. For anyone who prefers to use a less obvious method of searching, may I suggest using Vivismo's Clusty search engine - IE/Netscape/Mozilla plugin available at http://clusty.com/toolbar/mozilla. Found, naturally, with an extensive Google search - why hand it to monoliths on a plate? Jeffef That sounds useful, however the TC's are a bit vague we don't collect data, but might in the future... I've been using Scoogle.org for a while now... they really have a paranoid streak... no data collection, log deletion etc.. have a look at their TC's... :) Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Even more OT than usual] recent Bank transactions
Matthew, Most of the banks in the UK are currently working on faster payments projects. This is to speed up the processing of direct transfers/BACS/VOCA payments, so rather than taking 3 days, they happen pretty much instantly. I suspect it's the testing/implementation of this that's causing the issues Oh the irony... :) Lee Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone else has experienced issues with Financial transactions recently? I've made a few payments that have taken much longer than usual to reach the destination or have had to be resent and I've had a few payments that the sender has sworn have been sent already require re-sending. Thoughts? M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers
I use VirtualBox to do exactly that in Ubuntu, as far as I know it is also available for Windows. One thing to note is the NON open source edition is the one that allows you to share usb devices between the host and guest. I'm sure I saw a blog post recently describing how to fix that on Ubuntu... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] please, help me buy a laptop.
It is. It's the £299 one on the 1510 page; I didn't adjust it at all. Thanks to everyone for their help - much appreciated. Of course, you have to submit us a full review :) LoL... I can do that now if you want... I got one last week... Everything just works* desktop special effects too, even the optional extras of the webcam and the bluetooth module work... Lee *OK, I have two slight niggles... 1) The blue led that says the wireless lan is on doesn't light up wireless networking works just fine, but no light... 2) The refresh on the optional built in webcam is a bit slow, but I can't find a way to lower the resolution, but I guess that's a software application issue, rather than hardware or drivers. But apart from those, IT ROCKS :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Copying files from a reiser3 partition to LVM problem
I had this a couple of years back on a Linux backup server which I used to copy PC backups to. Turns out it was because it was full of little files they took up lots of room. Not sure if you have lots of smaller files on your disc that could be doing this. Could you try tarring everything into one big tar file to see if it does the same thing? Thanks for the reply. I tried your suggestion to see what would happen and indeed creating a tar file seems to work fine and creates a tar file with almost the exact same amount of space as the source drive. I don't understand why lots of files in a reiser3 filesystem taking up 436G space end up taking up lots more space ( 530G) when copied to another reiser3 filesystem. Unfortunately the files in tar format are not much use to me. Is there any way I can copy the files over? Why is more space required? I don't know about Reiser, but on other file systems you can specifiy the block/cluster size, if this isn't the same on both of your filesystems, then there would be more slack space on the destination, which would have the effect you're seeing... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sir Alan Sugar: it's too late for Linux
I wonder what controls Alan's Sky boxes? I bet it's not Windows - is it? -- Well, that phone in the bottom left foreground, an E3 I think, runs Linux... :) History shows that whatever starts in the business and back-end world ends up finding it's way through the servers, to the corporate desktops, and then finally down to home desktops. -- Really? Like what? Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion
The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is affected.any ideas? Hold down the 'alt' key and drag the window down with your left mouse button. Then resize the window to fit just less than the available screen area. Yes, that's a a quick fix, but this bug has been around since Edgy, though it seems to be happening less and less often. I've only seen it happen once under Hardy... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems installing Ndiswrapper in Wubi 8.04
Gordon wrote: I need to install ndiswrapper in Wubi 8.04. It is not available in the native package list, and when I wired the laptop into the network, and tried apt-get I got the message that the date-time stamp was too far in the future! Eh? How does THAT work? Your PCs system clock is probably incorrect, this has all sorts of weird side-effects. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop
Kris Douglas wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ring dell up to order it, you can usually wangle a bit off, although this has been for business ones. Noted with thanks. Norman Indeed, I got my 6400 upgraded to a nice spec for very little more, they have some good deals when you ring them. I've also had a top-end Vostro off them for free when I bought a server.. Argh! I just ordered a Vostro for my dad from Dells website... Clicked the confirm order button, then switched back to Thunderbird and read these mails... Don't you just hate it when that happens... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a question regarding memory card!!!NON UBUNTU related!
Hi, I apologise for putting a non ubuntu related query here...but ive done a search but couldnt find any answers. I was hoping someone would be able to answer here! I apologise in advance for the non ubuntuness of this topic. i recently bought a memory card (sandisk 4gb) but have been sent a memory card (pulse 4gb sdhc), Are their products any good? Regards As long as the device works, I would guess they are probably the same thing, just a different label.. I'm pretty sure Sandisk don't make stuff for anyone else. I'd bet that the retailer sent you the Pulse as they were out of Sandisk cards. What you do depends on how you feel about it and what you paid for it. Sandisk media usually commands a premium as it solid kit (which is why all the cheap Chinese fakes are branded as Sandisk. If you got it cheap and you don't mind, then keep it. Personally, I'd send it back and demand what I'd ordered and paid for... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to sync Liferea on two PCs
If you've got a network drive mounted you can put a link to somewhere on it in place of the ~/.liferea folder and then the different machines will share the same profile...snip... ...I should point out that I haven't tried this so keep a copy of the directory safe to put it back if it doesn't work. I wondered about this, and your suggestion prompted me to try it. Sadly, it didn't work: Liferea simply didn't open (despite seeming to spend a short while thinking about starting). And the 'rsync' method recommended by John and Stuart hasn't worked for me either. I suspect the cause of my difficulties may at least in part be that my NAS drive is formatted FAT32, and therefore does not transfer ownerships and permissions; and, worse yet, I have a different user name on the household's main desktop from the one I use on my laptop and my other machines. All in all, I think I'm pushing it a bit to hope Liferea wouldn't mind this level of scrambling! So when I tried to rsync the profile from the network to my laptop, I wasn't all that surprised that I'd lost the folder structure, and many of the feeds seemed to be missing. As I said in an earlier post, my experience of running Thunderbird on all of my computers from a profile on the NAS led me to hope I could get Liferea to do the same; but I guess Liferea may be a bit more fussy, and my set up isn't conducive to a simple work around. :-( I may do some experiments with a usb drive formatted ext3; but I think I'll leave things as they are for now. Many thanks to everyone who's giving advice and suggestions. Rsync shouldn't mess up the folder structure, I use it to do backups of my photos, and there are 1,000's of them in hundreds of folders. I'd guess that you've got a dodgy option in there somewhere. If the permissions are getting lost, why not just reset them when you've rsync'ed the files back to the local drive. Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to sync Liferea on two PCs
Rsync shouldn't mess up the folder structure, I use it to do backups of my photos, and there are 1,000's of them in hundreds of folders. I'd guess that you've got a dodgy option in there somewhere. If the permissions are getting lost, why not just reset them when you've rsync'ed the files back to the local drive. Lee You're right - rsync didn't mess up the directory structure on the drive; but the 'folders' within Liferea were missing. (Liferea allows you to 'group' feeds under headings of your choice; and it was this that didn't get preserved - something going wrong with the Liferea cache and database files?) I may have been misleading by mentioning permissions; I suspect it's the owner/group information that matters, and that's what's getting lost (though I'd be the first to admit I don't really understand Unix ownerships/permissions). But frankly reading some news feeds is not a serious enough matter to spend time reconstructing the data in order to use get a synced view of Liferea. ;-) Ah! All you've done is to miss off the 'r' option that recurses into sub folders. The permission one is easy to fix too. All the files/folders would have belonged to you! So a quick chown command (with the recursive option) will straighten it all out once the rsync has finished... Put them both in the same script file (with the bin/bash command on the first line) and set it executable with a chmod +x and you're done! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] bluetooth problem- pc to phone- update!!!but more help still needed!
Javad Ayaz wrote: So i finally managed to get the bluetooth connection working...ive not only successfully added and paired the moto z8 with my pc i sent it some files as well. Excellent work! Don't forget to make notes and post it up on the Ubuntu forum so others can have a easier time with the Z8. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Novatech ubuntu laptop
Novatech are advertising a laptop as Works with ubuntu on this week's newsletter: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/e-weekly.html Tom Whoa! £50 extra for Windows... That's what we need to see more of! :) That'd really start the general public thinking about whether Windows is worth the money Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: transferring files between Ubuntu and XP slow!!!!
It's not simply eight bits per byte for ethernet packets, it's more complicated than that and you're not taking into account collisions. Im a bit confused now... so how... I mean a Byte is 8 bits, a bit being either 1 or 0... I thought that was a fundemental of computer science. Am I wrong? In a typical technical response, yes and not. There are 8 bits in a byte (well an 8 bit byte anyway), an ethernet packet usually* holds 1500 bytes. However, the packet has to know where it's going, so that uses some extra data, and where it's come from, and have a checksum, to it can tell if it's been corrupted in transit. Then there is the problem that networks aren't perfect and problems (collisions) do occur, and packets need to retransmitted, a packet retransmitted is a packet lost... So while a 100 MEGA Bit/Second link can in theory send 12.5 Mega bytes/Sec, in practice you lose up to 30% of the throughput in overheads. So you're looking at around 9 MegaBytes/sec. With poor wiring and non-switching hubs you can lose even more... Wireless network lose even more of the headline rate, as the bandwidth shared among the clients... It gets very complicated very quickly, but if you are interested, have a google for the ISO 7 Layer model... :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: transferring files between Ubuntu and XP slow!!!!
It's not simply eight bits per byte for ethernet packets, it's more complicated than that and you're not taking into account collisions. Im a bit confused now... so how... I mean a Byte is 8 bits, a bit being either 1 or 0... I thought that was a fundemental of computer science. Am I wrong? In a typical technical response, yes and not. There are 8 bits in a byte (well an 8 bit byte anyway), an ethernet packet usually* holds 1500 bytes. However, the packet has to know where it's going, so that uses some extra data, and where it's come from, and have a checksum, to it can tell if it's been corrupted in transit. Then there is the problem that networks aren't perfect and problems (collisions) do occur, and packets need to retransmitted, a packet retransmitted is a packet lost... So while a 100 MEGA Bit/Second link can in theory send 12.5 Mega bytes/Sec, in practice you lose up to 30% of the throughput in overheads. So you're looking at around 9 MegaBytes/sec. With poor wiring and non-switching hubs you can lose even more... Wireless network lose even more of the headline rate, as the bandwidth shared among the clients... It gets very complicated very quickly, but if you are interested, have a google for the ISO 7 Layer model... :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: transferring files between Ubuntu and XP slow!!!!
As I said, it amazes me that a crossover cable would work at all with a router. I can only imagine that the router has had functionality built into it to monitor signals on both the in and out pins, unless I'm missing something obvious. Sean Sean, Many modern routers/switches can automagically do this. Javad, a) Does the P3/P4 machine have a 100MB port? b) Have you checked the cables are OK, by temporarily swapping them for some known good cables? c) It may be an idea to assign static IPs to the PCs and connect them with the cross over cable to rule out the router being the problem... Lee -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: transferring files between Ubuntu and XP slow!!!!
A cross-over cable is wired differently to a patch (or straight through) cable. This is done so that 2 computers can be connected DIRECTLY without a router/switch in between them. A patch cable is designed to go from a computer to a switch/router, the switch/router then essentially does the crossover when it tells the data packet where to go. Yes, yes, yes... but if that was the problem, the machine wouldn't see each other (i.e. he wouldn't be able to see the files to copy in the first place)... Now the cables may be damaged (happens a lot when they are moved/coiled/folded/kinked/etc... or they may be miswired, but IN THIS CASE the crossover/patch isn't the issue as his router must be correcting this... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: Firefox 3 bookmarks
An option would be to use Foxmarks syncronisation from addons.mozilla.org... It was my understanding that Foxmarks has not been migrated to FF3 yet? Sean. It's out in beta. I joined the beta programme, but it converts the existing FM data to a new format, which didn't work for me when I tried it. It may be working now, but given FF3's problems, I went back to FF2 and Hardy has been great every since*. Lee *Well, after removing the evolution-notifier and leaving Tracker to index everything at max speed for a few hours... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: Firefox 3 bookmarks
remove firefox firefox-3.0 install firefox-2 :) Mac wrote: I've just discovered that Firefox 3 does not allow the user-defined 'browser.bookmarks.file' setting for pointing to a bookmarks.html location. With Firefox 2 and Iceweasel I have the bookmarks on a network drive, so I can use the same bookmarks regardless of which computer I'm using around the house. (Ditto my Thunderbird profile). The change in FF3 completely messes this up. Arrghh! Can anyone advise how best to revert Hardy to Firefox 2? TIA Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: Re: Firefox 3 bookmarks
Mac wrote: Can anyone advise how best to revert Hardy to Firefox 2? LeeGroups wrote: remove firefox firefox-3.0 install firefox-2 Mmm... Sounds way too simple... (I wonder what's going to go wrong!) ;-) Mac Nothing, I did it a couple of weeks ago... :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: Upgrading to Hardy- Trying to make it easy!
Javad Ayaz wrote: this neither,,,btw im just pasting this into terminal,,,but nothing It puts the output into a file called my_packages.txt type nano my_packages.txt and you should see the contents... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: was idea-Torrents- Now- Suggest low power consumption silent PC
http://aleutia.com/ Linutop? Zonbu? They all look the same to me... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Strange disk problem...
I've got a small Ubuntu file server which has developed a strange problem with one of it's drives. The OS runs on one drive, and there are two data drives, the first data drive hdc, is now full. However, I've deleted 20GB of stuff off it, but a df -h still says the drive is full. I've deleted all the .Trash dirs, forced an fsck on it, even run smartmon tools on it, but I can't figure out what's happening,despite much Googling... It's running Dapper Server, with Samba, the drives are all Ext3, it's been running fine for months... Short of formatting the drive and starting again (which I don't really want to do), what else is left? Lee. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: The BBC Launches Wiiplayer??? WHAT!?
To what ends though? The BBC is a socialist corporation - you HAVE to pay them BY LAW. Therefore there's no profit increasing who gets thei I-services. If you had to pay, theyd be getting an extra however much per user, but as you're paying anyway, why should they bother. With no financial incentives, they won't do anything. I think you're missing the bigger picture, the Beeb makes a shed load of cash punting its wares all over the world, like BBC America for instance. While iPlayer is free in the UK, it's only a matter of time before they start charging non-UK IP addresses... The Wii shop makes this easy and with the Wii being the best selling next-gen console at the moment it's an obvious step for both Nintendo and the Beeb... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Persuading a school to switch
On Saturday 29 March 2008 18:23:32 Gavin Ford wrote: On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 06:12:51PM +, Tony Arnold wrote: If you do, you might want to consider using a VM technology such as VirtualBox or VMware to get an instance of Windows rather than dual boot. Another alternative is WINE, that way you may not need a copy of Windows at all. My biggest concern at the moment from looking at http://www.huish.somerset.sch.uk/help.htm is their reliance on Textease Documents. I've tried running TeView under wine, but it doesn't work. Now there is a classic example of a teacher doing an IT Managers role... Just download and install all this junk so you can read our documents rather put it in an open format or just html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] KlamAV and AV in general
Hi I've just installed KlamAV on my KUbuntu Laptop, just to have a look at it. It's virus definition database is huge - ie, windows targeted viruses. It it worthwhile having KlamAV/ClamAV, or any anti-virus on an Ubuntu (or any *nix) desktop? later Michael K/Clam AV is very useful for scanning for viruses on windows networks, like in emails when they come through the server... Otherwise I wouldnt say there was a threat to your machine if you dont have an AV, but it is nice for scannign windows based network shared and if you were to share the C:\ of a windows machine you could scan it from the network using a samba mount... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're sharing a C:\ drive, you've got to be stark starting mad... That's s bad XP even warns you NOT to do it... KlamAV/ClamAV/ClamAVis/etc are primarily aimed at Linux mail/file servers, so that can scan stuff as it's passing through. Running Ubuntu on your laptop, there's really not much point running Clam on it... The same goes for a firewall really, all unused ports are shut by default on a standard install. This may change over the next few years, as the low life starts to target our new OS of choice, but in the mean time, rest easy... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
