Re: [ubuntu-uk] Passwords need prior to updates?

[Piskie]

On 05/06/12 11:10, alan c wrote:

Is it my imagination, or have recent updates, not required my password?
(Ubuntu 12.04)

No it's not your imagination.

You will be asked for password if update mangler needs to install 
something - just not updates.


Kernel upgrade for example will ask.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Update_Manager_doesn.27t_prompt_for_security_updates

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

[Piskie]

On 05/05/12 14:41, alan c wrote:

On 04/05/12 17:05, Alan Pope wrote:

ubuntu-bug unity

(replacing "unity" with whatever package has the issue)

Then follow the prompts on the screen.


I can confirm that this is a very convenient and practical way to 
register a bug, and works pretty well. I cannot recall using it for 
very long so perhaps it is relatively new facility, or if I have just 
recently become aware of it.
A failry useful thing if for some reason you are not able to let it 
process - I timeout regulalry with Launchpad is


apport-bug /path/to/var/log/crash/crashfile

for instance

apport-bug /var/crash/_usr_bin_software-properties-gtk.1000.crash

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

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On 04/05/12 15:16, Gareth France wrote:


I have to admit I gave up trying to report bugs a long time ago. It 
always seems that any attempt to get involved results in me getting 
shouted at by people. I have posted on forums for pre-release 
versions, the intention being to say 'I'm having this issue, is anyone 
else seeing this?' My theory being I should establish it's a genuine 
problem and not just me. But the response I got was so harsh I just 
decided it wasn't worth the effort.


Some of these people seem to forget that many of us want to test and 
improve and report bugs but none of us know how until we start trying. 
So a little tolerance of those of us who get it wrong or ask stupid 
questions should be shown. Instead you simply get told 'if you need to 
ask that you shouldn't be using the beta version'.




You should use the report button on the forum Gareth.

We (staff)  want the development forum to be a place that anyone can 
visit - as it should be.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

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On 04/05/12 08:12, Alan Pope wrote:

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How would you do it Alan ?


I wouldn't upgrade now.

Cheers,
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LOL

People can be somewhat enthusiastic about helping with the next version :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

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On 04/05/12 08:04, Alan Pope wrote:

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On 03/05/12 23:21, Piskie wrote:

You can upgrade now - I have a 12.10 partition up.

I use these commands to do so

sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list

sudo apt-get update&&   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


I wouldn't recommend that. It's certainly _a_ way to upgrade, but this
early and using that method isn't ideal.

Cheers,
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I'd kind of agree - but it is what people are doing in the forum testing 
team and have done as long as I've been hanging about there :)


How would you do it Alan ?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

[Piskie]

On 04/05/12 07:00, kpb wrote:

On 03/05/12 23:22, Alan Pope wrote:
If everyone just re-installed the OS whenever the wind changed 
direction we'd end up with a significantly worse OS as a result. When 
everyone keeps telling everyone else to reinstall, we end up with the 
state that Windows is in. Everyone thinks that's the solution, and it 
isn't, by some margin. My advice is if you don't know how to fix 
something, find someone who does, don't just bulldoze the house down 
and build another one when a pipe leaks. 

Hello Alan and all

Right ok, this has challenged a basic assumption I have been making 
since the days of 6.06/8.04. Assumptions are meant to be challenged of 
course, so that's fine.


I have always had a separate /home and reinstalled when changing 
version. I have done that partially because that was the advice when 
using Mac OS before I started using Ubuntu, and partially from advice 
about Ubuntu that was around then.


During 12.04 testing there were appeals from Canonical people and 
Ubuntu members to get involved in iso testing, especially installation 
using 'default settings', so I did.


What would be the best way to contribute during the 12.10 cycle? Are 
you suggesting that I should have a test box that I keep 12.04 on and 
then try upgrading it to 12.10 at regular intervals? My recollection 
is that an upgrade path does not become available until late in testing.





You can upgrade now - I have a 12.10 partition up.

I use these commands to do so

sudo sed -i 's/precise/quantal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list

sudo apt-get update&&  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


I follow the u+1 sub-forum on ubuntuforums as well - tend to have a look 
prior to any updates after that.


http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=416

Hope that helps

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Youtube colour is wrong

[Piskie]

On 09/04/12 20:34, Andres Muniz wrote:


hi,

looks like you tube shows in shades of blue. Really wierd. i was able 
to see a bbc film alright though. I'm using firefox on ubuntu 11.10.


Probably some configuration that my toddler pressed that i have no way 
to find out. By the way: if you want to test os and apps use a toddler 
as as a beta tester.


Any clues would be great to know.



Though I can understand wanting to blame a toddler - been there done 
that ...


It's not ;)

There are a few fixes kicking about.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11824089&postcount=1

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS-DOS not being added to GRUB menu (Lubuntu 12.04)

[Piskie]

On 17/03/12 15:13, Liam Proven wrote:
Just FYI - that worked a treat. My thanks once again. Also, today has 
provided kernel 3.2.0-19 which seems to boot more reliably (so far) & 
now the graphical boot screen works. Lubuntu FTW! 

Excellent - glad it worked :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS-DOS not being added to GRUB menu (Lubuntu 12.04)

[Piskie]

On 17/03/12 12:15, Liam Proven wrote:

On 17 March 2012 02:43, Piskie  wrote:

On 17/03/12 01:47, Liam Proven wrote:

I asked this on the other list, possibly by mistake.

I have installed beta 1 of Lubuntu 12.04 on an old PC I'm planning to give
away.

The only thing that is not flawless about it is that GRUB2 has not
picked up that the primary partition on hard disk 0 contains MS-DOS -
7.1, specifically, from a Windows 98SE recovery floppy. It's a small
install - just the core utils in a \DOS directory - but when I run
`update-grub` it appears not to notice it at all.

Is there any way of manually adding an OS to GRUB2?

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Yes - you need to edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom and add the stanza there.

Something like


menuentry "msdos622 on sda1" {
insmod chain
insmod fat
set root=(hd0,1)
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Change the partition numbering to suit you.

Then you need to run sudo update-grub.

Hope that helps

Very cool indeed - I will try it and report back. Thanks!


http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10275310&postcount=3

Bah. Clearly my Google-fu is too weak. I did try searching - quite
thoroughly, I thought - before asking.


I was not able to sleep so I had some time :)

I also have a bunch of grub2 links bookmarked - the change from grub 
threw me sideways for a while, not sure that I have recovered yet.


One of the grub guy' on the forum is one of my staff compadres - so I 
have a back door as well :)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS-DOS not being added to GRUB menu (Lubuntu 12.04)

[Piskie]

On 17/03/12 01:47, Liam Proven wrote:

I asked this on the other list, possibly by mistake.

I have installed beta 1 of Lubuntu 12.04 on an old PC I'm planning to give away.

The only thing that is not flawless about it is that GRUB2 has not
picked up that the primary partition on hard disk 0 contains MS-DOS -
7.1, specifically, from a Windows 98SE recovery floppy. It's a small
install - just the core utils in a \DOS directory - but when I run
`update-grub` it appears not to notice it at all.

Is there any way of manually adding an OS to GRUB2?

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Yes - you need to edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom and add the stanza there.

Something like


menuentry "msdos622 on sda1" {
insmod chain
insmod fat
set root=(hd0,1)
chainloader +1
}


Change the partition numbering to suit you.

Then you need to run sudo update-grub.

Hope that helps

Kev

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Happy Hour Reading 29th March

[Piskie]

On 06/03/12 17:16, Alan Bell wrote:

Hi all,

back from an extended christmas break the Happy Hour tour is starting 
up again, with our first stop for 2012 being in Reading at the end of 
this month


http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1600/detail/

The pub is the Back of Beyond, which is a Weatherspoons pub slightly 
out of the town centre. Hope to see loads of you there.


If you want a Happy Hour near you then all you have to do is specify 
the pub and a day that you can be there, give me a shout and I will 
add it to the tour.

http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/

Alan.


Might try to make the Hobbit on Southampton when it get's there

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubiquity and ubuntuforums

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On 06/03/12 12:58, Bod Soutar wrote:

Hi Guys,

I just want to draw your attention to bug #894112 "Precise Pangolin - 
Please include ubuntuforums.org <http://ubuntuforums.org> in the 
slideshow"


Some of the guys from ubuntuforums are asking for a slide during the 
Ubuntu installer to mention the forums, its support and community.
I know some of you are active helpers on the forums and I'll bet most 
of you have received help there at some point or another.


If you support this bug, please find it on launchpad and click the 
'This bug also affects me" link at the top.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/894112

Thanks,
Bodsda
Ubuntu Beginners Team



Thanks bodsda

I did so.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] dig out your old computers...

[Piskie]

On 04/03/12 19:56, Jim Price wrote:

On 03/03/12 22:51, Phill Whiteside wrote:

I have some old machines. How do I tell if they are non PAE?

Try running this in a terminal

sudo dmidecode |grep PAE

If it has the PAE flag it'll show up I believe.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broken Precise .....

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On 17/02/12 16:06, Andy Whitcroft wrote:

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:12:30PM +, Liam Proven wrote:

On 17 February 2012 15:10, Barry Drake  wrote:

On 17/02/12 15:06, Liam Proven wrote:

Try sudo apt-get install -f

Sorry, that just gives me:
barry@prrecise:~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[sudo] password for barry:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.

Then you don't have broken packages. Looking more closely at the error
you posted, it says you have /held/ broken packages. What packages are
marked as "hold"?

That can commonly happen if the archive is inconsistant, particularly
with unity packages where there are tight version constraints between
them.  Typically they resolve themselves in a few hours and an install
will continue.

I would normally not advise to take any offered Partial upgrades.  They
tend to lead to pain unless you intimately understand the output of
apt-get when resolving conflicts.

Good luck.

-apw


I'd agree with this.

I have up till recently, synaptic being rather broken, updated from a 
terminal and then used synaptic to deal with upgrades.


Never had a partial that way that caused me issues - update manager is 
prone to causing 'issues' during the dev cycle so I never use it, nor 
the software-centre.


In the past I did it all from the terminal - but have been subscribed to 
various synaptic bugs.


I'm sure there are reasons why I shouldn't but previously I did

sudo aptitude update &&sudo aptitude safe-upgrade

After installing aptitude ... sigh

Recently

sudo apt-get update &&gksudo synaptic

Good luck ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broken Dependencies 10.04

[Piskie]

On 09/01/12 13:47, Michael Daniels wrote:



Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:22:51 +
From: sfgreenw...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broken Dependencies 10.04



On 9 January 2012 13:10, Michael Daniels > wrote:


I have the "no entry" symbol, following an attempted upgrade of
DVD CSS decoder, screentop right.
Broken dependencies appears to be the problem, some folders are
devoid of content, or will not display.
Is there an alternative to a reload of 10.04, please, update does
not work now.
Was attempting to load Medibuntu when it all went wrong.
Have updated my current problem with bug report 912320, still pending.
Any suggestions please ?
Thanks,  Michael


From a terminal run the following:

sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude upgrade
sudo aptitude -f

which should bring your system up to date and clear any broken 
dependencies or give some useful output that you can then paste here.


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I get for -fE:Type 'Hope I have typed it right, medibuntu appears to be the cause of the 
problem, thanks, Michael



You can do one of two things here - either edit the file manually - 
lines in there should have either deb, deb-src or # at the beginning - 
nothing else. It's likely that the whole thing is wrong.


The other option is to remove that file and redo the procedure to add 
medibuntu - either run nautilus as root - gksudo nautilus 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d


and remove the file from there or do it from the command line - sudo rm 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list



Then re acquire the medibuntu repos using the command here - 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using an Nvidia MX440

[piskie]

xorg attached I hope - if not I'll post it

it's the one I was using when I had the card - pretty sure that when I 
had the card I was caught up in all that Michael alludes to - I know I 
had to use proposed at the time to get it.


I looked at my nvidia thread - I think that in the end I did a clean 
install and it worked for me,


this was the issue I had with it to start with - but that was when the 
driver was beta still


http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1827368&postcount=1

Kev

Steve Baugh wrote:

Michael, Kev,

Thanks for your comments and pointing me to the bug report.

I am using Intrepid 32 bit. The bug report mentions a number of
xorg.conf tweaks so that could be it. I would be interested to see your
xorg.conf, Kev. The following comes up a lot:

Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"

There was a warning about a missing section in xorg.conf when I
activated the driver so that may be it.

Thanks again (I do miss compiz!),

Steve

On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 18:40 +, Michael Wood wrote:

Yes I have,

What version of Ubuntu are you running on the second PC ?

There were problems with Intrepid because of the new Xorg server and
nvidia not having released a driver that was compatiable with it,
though this is mostly resolved now:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/251107



2009/1/30 Steve Baugh 
I have two Ubuntu systems, this one using an Nvidia 8400 quite
successfully and anther one which is only used for my Amateur
Radio
activities.

The second PC has an Nvidia MX440 in an AGP slot. The 2D nv

driver works
OK but I would like to be able to run programs using OpenGL.
To this end
I downloaded the version 96 driver from the repository and
activated it.
I then found that the programs I run under Wine had their menu
text
scrambled and when I enabled desktop effects pop-up windows
and
Screenlets were blank. I have now deactivated it.

Has anybody managed to get 3D working with this card?

Steve, Bracknell




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Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName  "COMPAQ S710"
HorizSync   30.0 - 70.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName  "TV-0"
HorizSync   28.0 - 33.0
VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth24
Option "metamodes" "CRT: 1280x1024 +0+0; CRT: 1024x768 +0+0; 
CRT: 800x600 +0+0; CRT: 640x480 +0+0" 
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes  "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" 
"640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Videocard1"
Monitor"Monitor1"
DefaultDepth24
Option "metamodes" "TV: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes  "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" 
"640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load   "dbe"
Load   "extmod"
Load   "type1"
Load   "freetype"
Load"dri"
Load"GLcore"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout0"
Screen  0  "Screen0" Below "Screen1"
Screen  1  "Screen1" 0 0
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName  "GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X"
BusID  "PCI:1:0:0"
Screen  0
Driver  "nv"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard1"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName  "GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X"
BusID  "PCI:1:0:0"
Screen  1
Driver  "nv"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "Xinerama" 

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using an Nvidia MX440

[piskie]

Yes I did - up to Intrepid, though it took some fiddling then - I can't 
remember quite what I needed to do, nor did I ever try it wine.

Originally I did have some odd font problems but they seemed to be 
caused by an oddity in my /home.

I do have copy of my old xorg if that's of any use

Kev

Steve Baugh wrote:
> I have two Ubuntu systems, this one using an Nvidia 8400 quite
> successfully and anther one which is only used for my Amateur Radio
> activities.
> 
> The second PC has an Nvidia MX440 in an AGP slot. The 2D nv driver works
> OK but I would like to be able to run programs using OpenGL. To this end
> I downloaded the version 96 driver from the repository and activated it.
> I then found that the programs I run under Wine had their menu text
> scrambled and when I enabled desktop effects pop-up windows and
> Screenlets were blank. I have now deactivated it.
> 
> Has anybody managed to get 3D working with this card?
> 
> Steve, Bracknell
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Beards and sandals

[piskie]

Ta - done that now :)

Hope to get there and say hello

piskie

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/1/16 piskie :
>> Well - that's all good then, from an off the cuff remark I also find
>> that the hants lug meeting is during the day - so I might manage it
>> after all, if I can work out how to get my name on the door list :)
>>
> 
> http://hants.lug.org.uk/lurker/message/20090115.162811.184c8344.en.html
> 
> Has the details. Sorry it's not more clear.
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.
> 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Beards and sandals

[piskie]

Well - that's all good then, from an off the cuff remark I also find
that the hants lug meeting is during the day - so I might manage it
after all, if I can work out how to get my name on the door list :)

piskie

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/1/16 David King :
>> I know what you mean about the beard and sandals. Just look at a picture
>> of Richard Stallman -- would you trust a man who looks like that to
>> create your OS?
>>
> 
> Danger Will Robinson! That way prejudice lies..
> 
>> There is no reason why a person who is friendly with barbers should not
>> also be good with Ubuntu or running a LUG. I have never been to a LUG,
>> but mostly because I do not have the time, and their meetings take place
>> in the evening, when I am working.
>>
> 
> Ours take place on Saturdays. We very rarely have meetings during the
> evening because Hampshire is such a large county that it's difficult
> to get there and back in an evening and still have time to get stuff
> done. We run it from 10AM till about 5PM which gives plenty of time
> for chat, demos, fixing, some talks and even a beer and/or curry after
> if you're that way inclined.
> 
>> Hopefully most people who want to use Ubuntu will see it and its users
>> in a positive light (regardless of facial hair and footwear).
>>
> 
> I'd suspect it's more about what you do than what you look like. I
> mean take the people flaming the poor woman with the Dell laptop. They
> might all be devastatingly good looking and visit the barber every
> week. This doesn't seem to stop them being obnoxious!
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hampshire

[piskie]

Cool - anyway maybe see you next time in Soton then :)

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/1/16 piskie :
>> heh - I own neither myself - and as I said "I hasten to add a long time
>> ago" - a long time before I'd looked at Ubuntu, it was very cliquey and
>> 'if you've not compiled it yourself - we're not interested' - so as a
>> result neither was I.
>>
> 
> That still goes on with some people unfortunately. HantsLUG is a nice
> place though. We have people of all ages and backgrounds. We even have
> new people just turn up out of the blue to see if they can get help
> with their computer, or just to say "hi" and find out what's going on.
> 
>> I certainly don't feel the same way now and have been happily using
>> buntu and various other distros for a couple of years and while I've not
>> been very present on the mailing list - I am on the forums and IRC.
>>
> 
> Excellent. Good to know people are out there, wherever they find their home.
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hampshire

[piskie]

heh - I own neither myself - and as I said "I hasten to add a long time
ago" - a long time before I'd looked at Ubuntu, it was very cliquey and
'if you've not compiled it yourself - we're not interested' - so as a
result neither was I.

I certainly don't feel the same way now and have been happily using
buntu and various other distros for a couple of years and while I've not
been very present on the mailing list - I am on the forums and IRC.

piskie

Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/1/16 piskie :
>> I didn't even know about it to be honest. Looked around for a local LUG
>> last year and didn't get far at the time so gave up, probably due to the
>> last time I looked - which was I hasten to add a long time ago - I found
>> one that was very 'beard and sandles' :)
>>
> 
> I own neither a beard nor sandles, but some of my friends do. They're
> very nice people.
> 
> I'd be interested to know what "beard and sandles" means in this
> context. It's clearly a negative image, but what does it mean to you?
> 
> Cheers
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hampshire

[piskie]

I didn't even know about it to be honest. Looked around for a local LUG
last year and didn't get far at the time so gave up, probably due to the
last time I looked - which was I hasten to add a long time ago - I found
one that was very 'beard and sandles' :)

I won't be able to make this one - but once I get a bit of time, I'll
try to make the next soton one.

piskie

Alan Pope wrote:
> Whist the list is mentioning Hampshire, I thought I'd mention that
> Hampshire LUG are having a meeting on Saturday at Southampton
> University. All are welcome to come along. We have talks (I'll be
> giving one), open discussion and box-fixing :)
> 
> Hope to see other 'ampshire types there!
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unsuscrib

[piskie]

I am s glad, I thought I was alone 





Dr James Stevens-Turner wrote:
> I resemble that remark, coming from Ampshire!
> 
> I am a Ampshire Hogg!!
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "piskie" 
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unsuscrib
> 
> 
>> Move to Hampshire - there are very few H's making an appearance
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lizzeh Rodriguez wrote:
>>> To my credit, I'm starting to pronounce the "H" in herbs.   :|
>>> I've betrayed my New Yawk roots!
>>>
>>>
>>> BinaryDigit on UbuntuForums.org
>>> Lizzeh.com
>>> Support Open Source!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 Jan 2009, at 21:28, Simon Wears wrote:
>>>
>>>> There should ALWAYS be a U! =P Even in words that don't require one.
>>>> Like.. foloffle.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/1/15 Lizzeh Rodriguez mailto:liz...@gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>> Coming from a "bird" and a "Yank" myself... John said it best. 
>>>> However
>>>> I know that Sean meant "bird" in a playful sense, not really sexist 
>>>> in
>>>> the context.  But just watch what ya say because it's a huge mailing
>>>> list and not everyone responds (like myself). I guess I'm finally
>>>> getting the British humor after living here over a year!
>>>>
>>>> Yes...it's "humor" no u.
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lizzeh.com
>>>> Support Open Source!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 Jan 2009, at 20:27, John Levin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Sean Miller wrote:
>>>> >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ian Betteridge
>>>> mailto:i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk>
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >>> I'm not going to point out that refering to someone as "the 
>>>> bird"
>>>> >>> like
>>>> >>> that is patronising and sexist. Oh not. Not for my first post
>>>> to the
>>>> >>> list.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Oh dear, I just did...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Well, I meant it in the nicest possible sense.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Better than the "dumbest blonde in the world" or whatever the 
>>>> poor
>>>> >> lady (not the one who unsubscribed, as far as I know, but the mad
>>>> >> Yank
>>>> >> I alluded to!!) was described elsewhere on the list today.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Let's try to avoid getting too PC.  "bird", "gal", "fella",
>>>> "geezer",
>>>> >> "other 'alf", "trouble and strife" etc. are all colloqiualisms
>>>> which
>>>> >> aren't really sexist or patronising at all, unless one decides to
>>>> >> make
>>>> >> them so.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > 'bird' and 'trouble & strife' are perjoratives, and certainly are
>>>> > sexist. There is no relation between gender and having
>>>> difficulty with
>>>> > mailing lists.
>>>> >
>>>> > John
>>>> >
>>>> >
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unsuscrib

[piskie]

Move to Hampshire - there are very few H's making an appearance




Lizzeh Rodriguez wrote:
> To my credit, I'm starting to pronounce the "H" in herbs.   :|
> I've betrayed my New Yawk roots!
> 
> 
> BinaryDigit on UbuntuForums.org
> Lizzeh.com
> Support Open Source!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 15 Jan 2009, at 21:28, Simon Wears wrote:
> 
>> There should ALWAYS be a U! =P Even in words that don't require one.
>> Like.. foloffle.
>>
>> 2009/1/15 Lizzeh Rodriguez mailto:liz...@gmail.com>>
>>
>> Coming from a "bird" and a "Yank" myself... John said it best. However
>> I know that Sean meant "bird" in a playful sense, not really sexist in
>> the context.  But just watch what ya say because it's a huge mailing
>> list and not everyone responds (like myself). I guess I'm finally
>> getting the British humor after living here over a year!
>>
>> Yes...it's "humor" no u.
>> :)
>>
>>
>> Lizzeh.com
>> Support Open Source!
>>
>>
>> On 15 Jan 2009, at 20:27, John Levin wrote:
>>
>> > Sean Miller wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ian Betteridge
>> mailto:i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>> I'm not going to point out that refering to someone as "the bird"
>> >>> like
>> >>> that is patronising and sexist. Oh not. Not for my first post
>> to the
>> >>> list.
>> >>>
>> >>> Oh dear, I just did...
>> >>
>> >> Well, I meant it in the nicest possible sense.
>> >>
>> >> Better than the "dumbest blonde in the world" or whatever the poor
>> >> lady (not the one who unsubscribed, as far as I know, but the mad
>> >> Yank
>> >> I alluded to!!) was described elsewhere on the list today.
>> >>
>> >> Let's try to avoid getting too PC.  "bird", "gal", "fella",
>> "geezer",
>> >> "other 'alf", "trouble and strife" etc. are all colloqiualisms
>> which
>> >> aren't really sexist or patronising at all, unless one decides to
>> >> make
>> >> them so.
>> >>
>> >
>> > 'bird' and 'trouble & strife' are perjoratives, and certainly are
>> > sexist. There is no relation between gender and having
>> difficulty with
>> > mailing lists.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > John Levin
>> > http://www.technolalia.org/blog/
>> >
>> > --
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound inaudible on TFT speakers.

[piskie]

Hey - thanks for the reply - I've tried direct feed to the tft
unfortunately.

No volume available on the hardware - volume has to be full up on the
software mixer to make speech at all audible.

Nothing that I've tried has, apart from plugging it into a pc running
xp, made any noticeable difference.

Ken Robson wrote:
> Try feeding the tft DIRECTLY from the sound card this will eliminate any 
> issues out side of the tft. If it is still low is there a volume control 
> on it, either hardware ot via the menu?
> 
>>> Output from the soundcard to an amp - using tape output of amplifier to
>>> feed a small switch box for the tft input, output to speakers is normal,
>>> the output to a tv works normally.
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound inaudible on TFT speakers.

[piskie]

I've swapped the outputs on the box about, changed cables - the same box
feeds the tv with no problem.

I don't think that it's hardware related as that has all been checked.
Ken Robson wrote:
>> Output from the soundcard to an amp - using tape output of amplifier to
>> feed a small switch box for the tft input, output to speakers is normal,
>> the output to a tv works normally.
>>
>>   
> Looks like your switch box is the issue, if you feed the speakers 
> directly do they work?
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[ubuntu-uk] Sound inaudible on TFT speakers.

[piskie]

But fine everywhere else. To expand -

I have a Creative Audigy which works fine in almost everyway.

Sound works everywhere but doesn't appear to drive the speakers in the
monitor.

Output from the soundcard to an amp - using tape output of amplifier to
feed a small switch box for the tft input, output to speakers is normal,
the output to a tv works normally.

There is sound at the monitor but is is very quiet - almost inaudible.

If I route the soundcard output directly to the monitor it is still very
quiet.

I have checked the monitor on a different pc running xp and speakers
work normally there.

I have turned on all the possible mixer channels and upped all the
volumes to no avail.

Anyone have any ideas? Even a 'looks like it won't work' will do  :)

Kev

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: First time user I still have a dual

[piskie]

At a guess I would say that you have
Ubuntu
Ubuntu (recovery mode)
Ubuntu memtest

perfectly normal - when you get a kernel update you'll get 2 more

If that is not what you're seeing then can you give us a biot moredetail
of what you're seeing



Kris Douglas wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: stepheno2le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/11/29
> Subject: First time user I still have a dual
> To: Kris Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> Hi folks
> Just trying out Ubuntu for the second time and putting in a bit more
> effort to try and use it as the OS of choice.
> 
> However I still have a dual boot machinewhich is what I'd like
> assistance on please.
> 
> Partitioned and running OK but I seem to have 3 versions of Ubuntu as
> well as XP offered me after the Grub 1.5 (?) loading page and I can't
> get rid of any of them, can I should I?
> 
> Assistez SVP?
> Thanx  Stepheno2le
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] PCI Tv tuner cards

[piskie]

Thanks for the link - yea - I'll be wanting a digital one.

Thanks for the replies everyone.

piskie


Rob Beard wrote:
> piskie wrote:
>> Hey people - a little bit of help or misdirection needed - :)
>>
>> Looking for recommendations for a PCI tv tuner card which works without
>> TOO much trouble.
>>
>> Mostly using Intrepid - sometimes Jaunty - but not worried about bugs
>> there for obvious reasons as yet.
>>
>> Nvidia GeForce6200 card if it makes a difference.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> piskie
>>
> 
> I'd also suggest the Hauppage cards, they're probably the best supported 
> cards out of the box.
> 
> You don't mention if you want an analogue tuner card or a Freeview card. 
>   If you want an Analogue one then probably anything with a BT848 or 
> BT878 chipset would work (which covers most analogue PCI TV Tuner 
> cards).  For Digital cards check out this site...
> 
> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> 
> 
> You'd be looking for DVB cards (DVB-T for Terestrial i.e. Freeview, and 
> DVB-S for Freesat).
> 
> Rob
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[ubuntu-uk] PCI Tv tuner cards

[piskie]

Hey people - a little bit of help or misdirection needed - :)

Looking for recommendations for a PCI tv tuner card which works without
TOO much trouble.

Mostly using Intrepid - sometimes Jaunty - but not worried about bugs
there for obvious reasons as yet.

Nvidia GeForce6200 card if it makes a difference.

Thanks


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV Out from Mythbuntu not in colour

[piskie]

Hi -1 last try - firstly I have the same deal as you and my svideo cable
is plugged into an adaptor

Try adding this to xorg

Section "Extensions"
Option  "SVIDEO""Enable"
Option  "Composite" "Enable"

I don't know if you've attached your xorg anywhere previously - I'm set
up to delete old mails :) - perhaps you could do so



David King wrote:
> The webpage suggests connecting pin 15 to pin 20. This did not work. 
> Besides, when I connect a different PC running Windows using the same 
> setup I get colour. I also tried putting the TV out lead from the PC 
> into my old VCR which has s-video connection, and through that I also 
> just got a black and white image.
> 
> This leaves just 3 possibilities:
> software fault in Mythbuntu/Ubuntu
> hardware fault in graphics card
> faulty cable
> 
> 
> 
> David
> 
> 
> Seif Attar wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>   
>> This is what I was talking about, not sure if it's the same problem you
>> have, worth a try if you're desperate.
>>
>> http://camp0s.altervista.org/sVideo/sVideo.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>   
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV Out from Mythbuntu not in colour

[piskie]

not sure then - I'm fairly positive that was all I needed to add, but I
could be mistaken.

The only other difference being that I use seperate x screens rather
than clone

Als my tv seems to show 2 outputs from svideo input - av2 and yc2 - av2
is b/w - yc2 is colour

Sorry

David King wrote:
> I tried those options in the xorg.conf file, but it made no difference, 
> I am still left with just a black and white output on the TV.
> 
> I also tried
> 
> Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"
> 
> but that did not help either.
> 
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> David King wrote:
>> Thanks piskie, I only found
>> Option "TV Format" "PAL-I"
>> when I searched on Google and tried that, but it did not work. I will 
>> try your suggestion and see if that works.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> piskie wrote:
>>   
>>> >From memory only and a quick look I believe I added similar to this into
>>> xorg in the device section
>>>
>>> Option "TVStandard" "PAL-I"
>>> Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
>>>
>>> I never needed to use nvtv - not sure what card you're using but I have
>>> and had tvout on an old Geforce4
>>>
>>> I never tried nvtv so can't help with that
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>   
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV Out from Mythbuntu not in colour

[piskie]

>From memory only and a quick look I believe I added similar to this into
xorg in the device section

Option "TVStandard" "PAL-I"
Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"

I never needed to use nvtv - not sure what card you're using but I have
and had tvout on an old Geforce4

I never tried nvtv so can't help with that

David King wrote:
> I installed nvtv only to be told that no supported video card was found.
> 
> David King
> 
> 
> 
> Rob Beard wrote:
>> David King wrote:
>>   
>>> I managed to get the output back on the monitor, cloned onto the TV, but 
>>> still only black and white on the TV.
>>>
>>> 
>> Have you tried nvtv?
>>
>> I did give it a quick try on my PC but my video card hasn't got TV out 
>> (I use DVI to connect the PC to the TV).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>   
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV Out from Mythbuntu not in colour

[piskie]

Usually it's in System Admin - you should be able to run it from
terminal - gksu nvidia-settings

I did use to need to add the PAL or PAL/I option to xorg.

Kev

David King wrote:
>  From the same PC, which already had Ubuntu 7.10 installed, when I boot 
> into that old Ubuntu installation, I cannot find any option for the 
> Nvidia control panel like I can in Mythbuntu. I want to test TV out in 
> Ubuntu to find out if that will give a colour or black and white output 
> from the same graphics card. I also have a PC running Windows XP with TV 
> out on its Nvidia graphics card (which is similar to the one in the 
> Mythubuntu PC) which gives a colour output on the TV. Both PCs are 
> outputting their S-video via the same Scart switch to the same TV.
> 
> The Nvidia-glx-new driver is installed in Ubuntu, so where is the 
> control panel for Nvidia?
> 
> 
> David King
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I cannot find any option for PAL or NTSC. There is also nothing listed in 
>> the xorg.conf mentioning NTSC or PAL.
>>
>> I also tried different cables, and different s-video to scart adapters.
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>   
>>> David King wrote:
>>>
>>> 
 Any ideas how to get the TV out image to be in colour?
   
>>> Sounds to me like it's set to NTSC rather than PAL.  You'll need to 
>>> either set it to PAL or PAL/I.
>>>
>>> I'm sure there should be something on the NVidia control panel.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
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